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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Omodadi2: 10:16pm On Dec 21, 2017
captain90210:
Apologies for your denial. It can be very painful knowing u posses and qualify for the visa in all ramification.

But what I feel the VO misunderstood is that the $2300 was for the entire medical expenses (doctor, tests and scan, hospital) which in my little experience here, is low for the entire expense. That was what raised his curiosity and maybe coupled with a bad day for him.


Misunderstand? capital NO. She intentionally pretended to have misunderstood cos esomeone in her position of coirse should know ho the system works. Hospital fee is diff from doctors', tests, etc. and ds I mentioned over and over again to her bt she was just.....

I am still waiting for Lagosniv to comment on this. Do VOs have different trainings, is there any rule/regulation guiding the system, just thinking aloud.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by ozycy: 10:42pm On Dec 21, 2017
Omodadi2:



My dear thank you o.
The letter of indebtedness is the first thing she saw o cos i stapled it with the itemized bill bt she dint even tlk about it at
Now this is just annoying, I don't think you should change anything. I believe you just met the wrong person. Next time a different person will interview you and I hope you will be granted cos I haven't seen anything you did wrong. Try again pls

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Ramj: 11:05pm On Dec 21, 2017
Omodadi2:


Misunderstand? capital NO. She intentionally pretended to have misunderstood cos esomeone in her position of coirse should know ho the system works. Hospital fee is diff from doctors', tests, etc. and ds I mentioned over and over again to her bt she was just.....

I am still waiting for Lagosniv to comment on this. Do VOs have different trainings, is there any rule/regulation guiding the system, just thinking aloud.

LagosNIV or Abuja would not comment on individual cases of denial.

what we should all remember is that apart from certain basic criteria.. they bring their own judgement/biase/sentiments into this too.

Another VO would have no issue renewing while another would like Omodadi's case would deny the visa
So Omodadi just brace up and reapply.

I am no need changing any documents.

Same VO can't interview you again. Congrats in advance

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by ALADE4J2: 11:25pm On Dec 21, 2017
Omodadi2:


I have all these budget thing o, i know how difficult it is to travel and all, so i am dt person who goes out of her way to dot her Ts. Out of all u stated, only sendibg of letter direcry to the embassey is what i didnt do.
You see she didnt ask me how much i spent, she only asked of my receipts whc i handed over all to her nd she didnt even open them at all

It’s well. Just apply again.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by bidrozey: 12:01am On Dec 22, 2017
I have been a silent reader on this particular thread. Thanks to all those that have taken their time to respond . I got my visa 2weeks after my wedding June and was not pregnant . Hoping to travel with DH for honeymoon who still have a running visa but we couldn't make the trip and ended up going to Dubai. Now we are planning to give birth in the US. From the thread LETTER OF INTENT seems nt to carry much weight so I plan opening up at the POE with clear intentions.... PLEASE I NEED ADVISE ON D'S ISSUE.
Pls does anyone have any idea of hospitals/Dr in Philadelphia or anyone EDD that falls around April and needs to share accommodation in HUSTON or any state that the bills are not too extreme... and also planning to travel Jan. I don't want to stay in an environment I don't have any1 alone because of boredom . Will be waiting for response. Thanks.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by kokorita: 12:20am On Dec 22, 2017
morning house, please I need an advice for a good friend of mine.she had her baby boy in Maryland , She was billed 4,100.66 dollars for lab test and she asked them before the test. How much it was. And the doctors office nurses said its the lab department that handles that. Now she got a mail giving her a break down of the lab test and charged her that huge amount just for test. She's confused . Please house any expenrice or advise. Thanks
Morning house. My friend was able to get a discount on her lab bill from 4,100.66 to 2,190.77.
Want to find out. If she does a year payment plan with the lab. But clears are other bills like doctor fees , hosiptal fees , epidural , baby doctors fees etc. Will it affect her reapplying from a visa.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by shrekandfiona: 12:36am On Dec 22, 2017
Omodadi2:


Misunderstand? capital NO. She intentionally pretended to have misunderstood cos esomeone in her position of coirse should know ho the system works. Hospital fee is diff from doctors', tests, etc. and ds I mentioned over and over again to her bt she was just.....

I am still waiting for Lagosniv to comment on this. Do VOs have different trainings, is there any rule/regulation guiding the system, just thinking aloud.
so sorry omodadi kiss I know it's painful but please be calm okay.

Reapply asap. You may change location to Lag if you wish. You just met a Vo who had issues with discounts. When filling your DS form be explicit in the reason for denial stating you paid your bills in full and if there's space, indicate the total amount you spent.

The VO may have misconstrued the $ 2,300 to be the total you spent on birthing. I know you'll get it this time around.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by shrekandfiona: 12:39am On Dec 22, 2017
LagosNIV:
I was actually commenting on how inexpensive it was.

LagosNIV

shocked an actual VO... interesting
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by ozymes: 12:39am On Dec 22, 2017
Please let your friend come onine.
kokorita:
morning house, please I need an advice for a good friend of mine.she had her baby boy in Maryland , She was billed 4,100.66 dollars for lab test and she asked them before the test. How much it was. And the doctors office nurses said its the lab department that handles that. Now she got a mail giving her a break down of the lab test and charged her that huge amount just for test. She's confused . Please house any expenrice or advise. Thanks
Morning house. My friend was able to get a discount on her lab bill from 4,100.66 to 2,190.77.
Want to find out. If she does a year payment plan with the lab. But clears are other bills like doctor fees , hosiptal fees , epidural , baby doctors fees etc. Will it affect her reapplying from a visa.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by nefertitiram: 12:52am On Dec 22, 2017
Omodadi2

Reapply in Lagos

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by ugoguchy(f): 6:36am On Dec 22, 2017
Omodadi2:
Good afternoon ppl.
I havve come to really rant here this afternoon as I personally feel that some cases of visa denial including mine are extreme wickedness. What exactly is the criteria to qualify for a US visa or renewal?

I got a B1/B2 visa purposely for birth which I used last year, paid my bills and came back. Went with my mum and my husband came to join us, he was there for 6weeks while we spent 11weeks.

Planned a vacation for December, discovered I was pregnant so cancelled vacation to accomodate childbirth for next year and we opted for dropbox due to our location but his visa was renewed while I was invited for follow up. And interview went thus today- Abuja

VO: Your passport please
Gave her passport
VO: where are you going to
Houston Texas
Are you going with your child
Yes
Does she have a visa already
She was born in the US and eligible to travel with her US visa, I gave birth to her in Houston last year.
VO: Can I have your medical receipts
Gave her all receipts and zero balance statements.
VO: Can u explain why you paid 2300usd for your medical services?
2300 ws the hospitals price for selfpay patient who are not eligible for insurrance and have to pay 1month ahead EDD.
VO: Read through the itemized bill and asked sme question again dding the fact that the main cost is around 23000usd.
I explained myself again. And added thefct that i made other payments for tests, doctor, baby, epodural etc to make a tota bill of about 7,000usd, all receipts in her hands, but she dint check at all.
VO:started typingandasked me where i work and how much I earn monthly
I work with a ....and earn 900,000 naira ( i am intentionally adding this here so u all can see more to my rant) monthly after all deductions.
VO: So you want to use 2300 to pay for health care when you earn 900,000 naira monthly? ( I was confused here cos we were only talking about what I have paid bt had to answer her)
Well, no amount of money is too much for good health if one can afford it and moreso we would also be giving that child the dual citizenship opportunity.
Vo continues to type, i had to say that I am also going again for childbirth thinking that she was granting me visa. She said she knows, we would discuss that. After few seconds, then she looked up and said you arnt eligible this time and gave me the white paper.

I would like our LagosNiv and others to comment on this case. I personally feel Iam eligilbe but wnt to know what exactly went wrong.

Applying again? may have to do this but its really a hard thing for me and my reason for ranting and infact confused. I reside in far north where to get flight to Abuja when you have ur money sef is wahala, i need to take at least 3days leave from office again to attend interview, lodge in a hotel, etc.

I just want to know if we have to opt for the insurance residents payment to be able to renew our visas.

Sorry sis
U dont want to hear mine
Its really heartbreaking
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by NothingDoMe: 7:39am On Dec 22, 2017
Omodadi2:


Misunderstand? capital NO. She intentionally pretended to have misunderstood cos esomeone in her position of coirse should know ho the system works. Hospital fee is diff from doctors', tests, etc. and ds I mentioned over and over again to her bt she was just.....

I am still waiting for Lagos.niv to comment on this. Do VOs have different trainings, is there any rule/regulation guiding the system, just thinking aloud.
They're probably doing an end of year administrative quotation thingy coupled with a lot of student applications.

My own personal opinion.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by dere5: 7:42am On Dec 22, 2017
captain90210:
Apologies for your denial. It can be very painful knowing u posses and qualify for the visa in all ramification.

But what I feel the VO misunderstood is that the $2300 was for the entire medical expenses (doctor, tests and scan, hospital) which in my little experience here, is low for the entire expense. That was what raised his curiosity and maybe coupled with a bad day for him.

I think your last sentence summed it all up, the VO was just having a bad day,cause according to Omodadi,she explained to the VO that the $2300 was just for hospital and it excluded Dr,lab,epidural etc,that she even went further to explain that her final bill came to about $7000, which she had receipts for and which the VO already had in his possession,but alas! he refused to look at it and all her explanation fell on deaf ears.
Like I said earlier,she should just reapply soonest she'll get it this time around. Wish her

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by dere5: 8:16am On Dec 22, 2017
bidrozey:
I have been a silent reader on this particular thread. Thanks to all those that have taken their time to respond . I got my visa 2weeks after my wedding June and was not pregnant . Hoping to travel with DH for honeymoon who still have a running visa but we couldn't make the trip and ended up going to Dubai. Now we are planning to give birth in the US. From the thread LETTER OF INTENT seems nt to carry much weight so I plan opening up at the POE with clear intentions.... PLEASE I NEED ADVISE ON D'S ISSUE.
Pls does anyone have any idea of hospitals/Dr in Philadelphia or anyone EDD that falls around April and needs to share accommodation in HUSTON or any state that the bills are not too extreme... and also planning to travel Jan. I don't want to stay in an environment I don't have any1 alone because of boredom . Will be waiting for response. Thanks.
This is a do it yourself forum, you might be lucky to get a response or two or people will just read and pass. What I would advise you to do is read and take down notes and research extensively here and outside here also, you don't have much time left if you're planning to travel in January. Still write the change of intent letter since you were not pregnant when you got your visa. Get hospital and Dr's correspondence even if it is from a Houston Dr and hold plenty of cash to show at poe
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by dere5: 8:31am On Dec 22, 2017
kokorita:
morning house, please I need an advice for a good friend of mine.she had her baby boy in Maryland , She was billed 4,100.66 dollars for lab test and she asked them before the test. How much it was. And the doctors office nurses said its the lab department that handles that. Now she got a mail giving her a break down of the lab test and charged her that huge amount just for test. She's confused . Please house any expenrice or advise. Thanks
Morning house. My friend was able to get a discount on her lab bill from 4,100.66 to 2,190.77.
Want to find out. If she does a year payment plan with the lab. But clears are other bills like doctor fees , hosiptal fees , epidural , baby doctors fees etc. Will it affect her reapplying from a visa.

I don't think being on a payment plan would prevent them from renewing her visa,but tell her that she must be faithful to whatever plan she enters into o, and that she should keep all documents intact eg the payment plan agreement itself,bank statements to show she is faithful to the payment plan just incase if she is called for interview, she would have evidence to show that she has been keeping her own end of the bargain. I know two different people who were on a payment plan and were faithful to it and they had their visas renewed while still on the plan.one was by Dropbox,while the other was invited for interview after she applied via Dropbox.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by ugoguchy(f): 10:53am On Dec 22, 2017
@omodadi i think i know who interviewed you,is same lady that interviewed me,she has issues with discount,becos she also asked me why i had some much discounts,mine i paid 5500 for hospital,1800 for dr

Please i really need help,if you go through my first transcript here of my first visa,you will clearly see where i said the Vo asked if i was pregnant and if i would give birth in the US which i answered yes,but the trip was first for vacation which i did go for before going back to give birth,and i have never hidden my intentions too at the POE,fast forward to my renewal i was called in for a follow up,booked appt and went and was denied based on the fact that i didnt say i was going to give birth (which i remember clearly i stated)after much explanations and all i was denied,the VO said it was recorded in my transcript,that she only sees i said i was pregnant
I reapplied again,had my interview on tuesday and same question came up,and i told the VO i did mention that in my interview and he says same thing that is not in my transcript and i was denied again for the 2nd time
I did feel very bad,and also confused because i dont know what i will do again,am completely lost
I dont stay in abj,i had to book flights and book hotel just to attend my appointments and i get a no at d end of all these
I paid all my bills and have my receipts,including zero balance and i also had to call the hospitals to make sure none of the discounts where shifted to the govt like i have been reading so far
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Nobody: 12:10pm On Dec 22, 2017
Ladies & Gents,

Good afternoon.

Please, I'm confused about something. My supposed monthly pay is different from my actual monthly payment due to some deductions as a result of the upfront payment that my company gives. Please, if asked what my monthly pay is, what would you advise my wife to state as my monthly pay?

Let me give an example. A man is supposed to earn 600k monthly (7.2 million annual income). In the first year, the company pays him over say 3 million naira upfront. Now, his actual monthly payment is 300k. What should he tell the VO is his monthly pay if asked.

My fear actually is that the VO might see the 300k as actually small and might not approve the visa for my wife. I would love to attend the interview with my wife so that I can defend my earnings and prove that we can afford the medical expenses associated with giving birth in the US but I have a visa already and had gone to the US once. Our budget is $12,000 (everything including flight, accommodation and baby documentation) and my bank statement would just have maybe $1k above the budget or less. I don't want him to have the feeling that we would be depleting our account. Even though we will and the reason is that I have this principle of not keeping money in the bank. My salary is used to fund our building project as soon it is paid. It is now that we decided to give birth that I had to retain some cash in my account to fund the medical expenses. How do you think we can navigate this? Would showing a statement of my pension account help? Does it reek of desperation? Please advise.

please note that figures stated are fictitious and do not in anyway reflect my earnings.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by jaysmom: 12:11pm On Dec 22, 2017
bidrozey:
I have been a silent reader on this particular thread. Thanks to all those that have taken their time to respond . I got my visa 2weeks after my wedding June and was not pregnant . Hoping to travel with DH for honeymoon who still have a running visa but we couldn't make the trip and ended up going to Dubai. Now we are planning to give birth in the US. From the thread LETTER OF INTENT seems nt to carry much weight so I plan opening up at the POE with clear intentions.... PLEASE I NEED ADVISE ON D'S ISSUE.
Pls does anyone have any idea of hospitals/Dr in Philadelphia or anyone EDD that falls around April and needs to share accommodation in HUSTON or any state that the bills are not too extreme... and also planning to travel Jan. I don't want to stay in an environment I don't have any1 alone because of boredom . Will be waiting for response. Thanks.

At POE, if I'm a CBP officer, I'll be wondering why you would go for a visa for honeymoon after your wedding instead of before. I will check the date you were stamped into Dubai and compare it to the date your visa was approved. I would also imagine that if your EDD is April, then you may have taken in just before you applied for visa (having in mind that unprotected intercourse between a couple could result in pregnancy).

Option 1, Ponder on this points and many more and think of befitting answers just in case the CBP thinks like me.

Option 2 (my preferred), reapply for a medical visa considering the fact that you didn't use your visa for the original purpose.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by shrekandfiona: 12:40pm On Dec 22, 2017
ugoguchy:
@omodadi i think i know who interviewed you,is same lady that interviewed me,she has issues with discount,becos she also asked me why i had some much discounts,mine i paid 5500 for hospital,1800 for dr


I reapplied again,had my interview on tuesday and same question came up,and i told the VO i did mention that in my interview and he says same thing that is not in my transcript and i was denied again for the
I paid all my bills and have my receipts
Sorry about your denials dear but your case is quite different from omodadi's.

You applied for vacation initially, didn't go for it and used it for childbirth later. though you said at the interview you declared your intent. The VO may not have captured that in your profile.

Omodadi from the onset applied for childbirth(B2).

My advice to you, reapply the 3rd time in Lagos. You may be granted but if not, travel to UK for birthing or give birth here in Naija then after a year or 2, reapply with your baby.

I wish you the best...

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by shrekandfiona: 12:41pm On Dec 22, 2017
jaysmom:


At POE, if I'm a CBP officer, I'll be wondering why you would go for a visa for honeymoon after your wedding instead of before. I will check the date you were stamped into Dubai and compare it to the date your visa was approved. I would also imagine that if your EDD is April, then you may have taken in just before you applied for visa (having in mind that unprotected intercourse between a couple could result in pregnancy).

Option 1, Ponder on this points and many more and think of befitting answers just in case the CBP thinks like me.

Option 2 (my preferred), reapply for a medical visa considering the fact that you didn't use your visa for the original purpose.

Hope this helps.
I'll go with option 2 for her. saves lots of stress at renewal
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by shrekandfiona: 12:46pm On Dec 22, 2017
Cretaceous:
Ladies & Gents,

Good afternoon.



Let me give an example. A man is supposed to earn 600k monthly (7.2 million annual income). In the first year, the company pays him over say 3 million naira upfront. Now, his actual monthly payment is 300k. What should he tell the VO is his monthly pay if asked.



please note that figures stated are fictitious and do not in anyway reflect my earnings.
fill the 600k as your monthly income then you can explain to the VO during your interview that a yearly upfront is always paid. As long as the sum is reflected in your bank statement, it's no issue

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by ada88: 12:46pm On Dec 22, 2017
I applied for drop box with hubby. His was approved and I was asked to come for interview. My interview as follows.
Vo: hello how are you.
Me. I am fine.
Vo. Why do you want to go to the us. Me. To have a baby.
Vo. Where do you work and how many years.
Me. Told him
Vo. So where are you going.
Me. Houston.
Vo. I see you travelled last year. What for.
Me. To have my baby.
Vo. Do you have receipts.
Me. Yes.
Vo. Let's see. He looks through. I see you paid over 10k for your bill.
Me. Yes and over 12k for my baby. She spent sometime in NICU and I had complication. That's about 23k in total.
Vo. But your bill has Atlanta. Yes I had her there but I am going to Houston this time.
Vo. What is your budget for this trip. Me. I say 6million and show him my budget sheet. (All bills were for high risk pregnancy due to my past experience.)
Vo. So you have one child.
Me.I said yes. Lost her twin due to same complications.
Vo. I see you were supposed to use your last visa for childbirth but you had a miscarriage.
Me. Yup same complications I mentioned.
Vo. Sorry about that. Hands Me my docs and says I will be contacted to pick up my visa. Hands Me the white paper.
GREAT GRACE .GOD'S GRACE!! Cos all the 3 people before me had blue paper in their hands. I thank God.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by kokorita: 1:41pm On Dec 22, 2017
Thanks a lot dere5. You are the best.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by beautyuche: 2:53pm On Dec 22, 2017
In the spirit of giving back. My mum went for her interview on Wednesday and her visa was approved.

I and my sister plan to have our babies in Houston EDD very close 1 week difference. Initially I filled in that she will be traveling with me,my sis hubby,my sis and her daughter but edited it to only my sis and her daughter.
All documents were provided however my sis data page and visa was not included (how she missed that out still beats us all)
Morning of 20th my mum called to ask for my sis passport I almost said don't bother it's is late but my mum insisted to take it along with her. We sent it to her by watsapp which she printed out at the venue.

VO: Good morning passport please
Mum: Good morning here it is
VO: why are you going to the usa
Mum: to assist my daughter who is going to have her child there and will be travelling with a toddler
VO: Does your daughter have a valid visa
Mum: Yes
VO: can I see it ( what if mum didn't insist on going in with it last minute?)
Mum: hands it over
VO : ask her but her surname is different
Mum: yes she is married.she got her visa with her maiden name. Hand over my sis new passport data page also gives her husband and daughter data page (daughter was born in d usa)she also handed over marriage certificate
VO: This is okay types for a while then tells her her visa is approved.

My only fear was my sis didn't have a corespondence yet with her doctor. However it all worked out well.
Visa will be picked Thursday considering the Monday and Tuesday holiday.

Now I need to start searching for ticket. Quatar air is less than 500 now so maybe I should start considering it before it increase by february.

Thanks to this family for the experience shared.it helped me greatly

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by ugoguchy(f): 3:10pm On Dec 22, 2017
shrekandfiona:

Sorry about your denials dear but your case is quite different from omodadi's.

You applied for vacation initially, didn't go for it and used it for childbirth later. though you said at the interview you declared your intent. The VO may not have captured that in your profile.

Omodadi from the onset applied for childbirth(B2).

My advice to you, reapply the 3rd time in Lagos. You may be granted but if not, travel to UK for birthing or give birth here in Naija then after a year or 2, reapply with your baby.

I wish you the best...

No ma,i did go for the vacation
I travel to the US 3 times on that visa
First was vacation and the other 2 was for childbirth
2014,2015,2016

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by shrekandfiona: 3:20pm On Dec 22, 2017
ugoguchy:


No ma,i did go for the vacation
I travel to the US 3 times on that visa
First was vacation and the other 2 was for childbirth
2014,2015,2016
oh sorry. didn't get that in your posts.

My advice, reapply in Lagos. in your DS form, be very explanatory in reason for your denial. state that you declared your childbirth intent at the interview though the visa was for a family vacation which you embarked on. Just be very explicit.

Come and testify soon. mention me when you do. Just believe...

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by dere5: 4:36pm On Dec 22, 2017
ugoguchy:


No ma,i did go for the vacation
I travel to the US 3 times on that visa
First was vacation and the other 2 was for childbirth
2014,2015,2016

I've gone through your post and I don't understand why you were denied the visa renewal on both occasions (though I'm not a Vo) Lets even assume that you didn't mention that you'll be using it for birthing, you Shar 1st used it for the vacation that it was gotten for,so what's their beef? Is medical nor under B1/B2
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by jenyjay: 5:08pm On Dec 22, 2017
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Applying again? may have to do this but its really a hard thing for me and my reason for ranting and infact confused. I reside in far north where to get flight to Abuja when you have ur money sef is wahala, i need to take at least 3days leave from office again to attend interview, lodge in a hotel, etc.

I just want to know if we have to opt for the insurance residents payment to be able to renew our visas.
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Hello Omodadi, so sorry for your denial. I also went for a follow up interview and was denied too.

I think the Abuja VO's mind have been made up before you came.the possibility of changing her mind was slim *talking from my experience* and that depends on what was written on your file pending your follow up interview..

I suggest you reapply depending on how close your EDD is.This time to Lagos.i don't think you should change anything. The VO had made up her mind not to give you the Visa that's why she didn't look at your other receipts.

Most importantly calm down and don't get too discouraged. Will post my transcript today as their are some similarities .

All d best.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Nobody: 5:16pm On Dec 22, 2017
Omodadi2:



My dear thank you o.
The letter of indebtedness is the first thing she saw o cos i stapled it with the itemized bill bt she dint even tlk about it at all.

You mean I shd use a diff hosp and doctor so dt my bill can come a bit higher? Do u think this is a concern cos this VO didnt even ask question about my intended trip.

And even if I reapply and change my hospital/doctor, wont this raise query again? however, the 2300 i paid for my hospital has increased to 2750 now whc is in my budget sheet for the intended trip. I am just tired.


Omodadi2....i assumed you were applying for a visa for another birthing trip......i.e. to have another baby.....so my 2nd suggestion is with regards to the new documents which will support your new journey and next hospital visit.

If your past bill is considered too low...then my suggestion was maybe consider something more for your next baby.....if you can afford it and you don't mind spending more....

Obviously your last trip had been done...dusted....concluded and paid for....nothing to change there....attempting to change that would even be fraudulent! Do you have the letter that says that the state did not pay any of your bills?

I've seen 10k mentioned a couple of times in this thread....apparently some VOs have mentioned this at interviews...i wonder if it's a limit that some VOs are setting mentally for what they think is a fair medical bill...again as many have said, you may meet another VO who doesn't have "discount" issues.

And a lot more people from Abuja with refusals compared to Lagos....at least based on those who return to share their stories...

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by jenyjay: 6:39pm On Dec 22, 2017
This is my story........

In 2013 DH, LO and I applied for a Visa.I went on the US embassy website, did my enquiries and filled out all three applications. The information I didn't know about DH,I called him to get and updated on his profile since he was at work and busy.when I finished,I sent him his DS160 code,he went through and confirmed okay.we submitted our applications and went for an interview i Abuja.
Transcript........

VO: Hello
US: Good morning
Passports please
Hubby passed on our passports.
Why do you want to go to the US?
DH: To take my family on a vacation.
She was looking at our profile and typing.
Where do you work.?
DH: Xxxxxxxxxx
How much do you earn?
DH: Xxxxxxx
Have you travelled before?
DH: Yes to France and Spain.
ME: No
Turns to me and asks,what do you do for work?
ME: XXxX xXxX
How much do you earn
ME: Xxxxxxxx per annum
No average per month.
ME:XXxX without allowance xXxX with allowance. However the allowance does not come in every month.....
She nods in understanding.
When did you go back to work after having him(points to LO)
MEsadNever expected that kind of question). I replied immediately Oct 26th (I remembered cause I didn't want to resume work) grin
When did you have him LO?
ME: July 31st
She picks up the calendar and says,you had 3months of maternity leave?
ME:Yes
Don't you think he (LO) will be too young to go on vacation?
ME: we plan to go sometime in the summer and he will be about one.i think that's a good time.
She turns to DH and says where in the US do you wanna go?
DH:Dallas (TD Jake's ministry) and Newyork.
Types for a while.Hands US the white paper and says enjoy your vacation.
Not one document was checked.the interview lasted less than 5mins.

We went on the vac.Had plenty fun for 3 weeks,Visited the UK fpr one week and came back home.
I came back pregnant. Lost the baby at the beginning of my 2nd trimester and lost the next pregnancy too.

I took in again and refused to let go ooooo. God kept and saw us through. So DH and I decided to have the baby abroad.my visa was still valid. My EDD was in Feb 2016,visa was to expire in march. Then i didn't know that would not be a problem.
We then decided to renew the visas, I went to the embassy site and saw we could renew 6 months to expiration and we didn't have to appear for an interview. This was in Oct 2015. So we applied again and filled 3 weeks as duration of stay.(This was the blunder I referred to).I should have indicated 2 months on mine.Was a mistake.

I discovered this group and from my findings then you just had to declare at POE.However I called the embassy and I was asked the category of the visa I applied for B1B2 covers both medical and shge said "s he didn't think it was a problem provided I inform the Border officer of my intent and add how evidence I could pay my bills.

At POE I told the officer sharp sharp I was there to have my baby.
He looked surprised and said I didn't look it.stamped me in and that was it.

Fastforward to 2017.... pregnant......
I applied for Dropbox again (ist mistake) this time I filled in 2 months as duration of stay.i expected a follow-up interview. And like I expected was requested to schedule one.

All our passports were returned.....
Existing visas cancelled.......
Hubby was not given....
LO was not given......
Follow up date was December........
EDD in January.......
was a struggle to change my follow-up date to suit DH's work schedule and so local airlines can take me n my belly........
finally got November 30th........
I went with the mind of showing evidence I paid my bills.......
*Calls you make are not logged into your profile.

Location: Abuja
Transcript......

VO:Hello
US: Good day.
Passports please.
VO: so what are you going to Houston for.
ME: To have my last baby.
VO: He turned to my toddler and said you had him in the US?
ME:Yes.
When did you have him?
ME:February 1st 2016
So on your last application you said you were going to stay for 3weeks and you stayed for 2months...
.........TBC
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by jenyjay: 7:47pm On Dec 22, 2017
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All our passports were returned.....
Existing visas cancelled.......
Hubby was not given....
LO was not given......
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VO:Hello
US: Good day.
Passports please.
VO: so what are you going to Houston for.
ME: To have my last baby.
VO: He turned to my toddler and said you had him in the US?
ME:Yes.
When did you have him?
ME:February 1st 2016
So on your last application you said you were going to stay for 3weeks and you stayed for 2months...
.........TBC

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That was when I knew there would be trouble.
ME: Yes it was a mistake as I applied with my family and we all indicated 3weeks.
VO: Looks to me like you did it on purpose.
ME: OH no I didn't.In this current application i indicated I will be staying for two months. Told him of the calls I made....
VO: I dont see that.How much did you spend on your last trip?
ME: $13,150
VO: You ? You spent that?can I have the receipts for your payments.
ME: hands him all my medical receipts $8000 (3000 hosp fees,3300 Doctors fees, 1200 epidural, 200 pathology 250 pediatrician + ....followup visit) for medical $4500 accommodation, about $650 for my baby's documents (birth certificate, passports, visa)
VO: Flips through and was like, I don't see evidence of those payments ,I don't see it,I don't see it.. repeatedly..(that was when o knew he had made up his mind and didn't really want to see anything else.
DH tried to cut in and explain to him.... No way.
VO: How much do you have fofor this trip?
ME: I already have xxxxxx in my dorm account. And will get more from PTA.
VO: Can I see that?
ME: Hands all my statement to him.He scanned through the dorm statement,says nothing, flips to my account statement and picks on one month where the closing balance was 34k..
VO: You only have 34 000 naira in your account.
ME: Am like NO! I have xxxxxxxx in seven digits in that account plus another savings account statement with Bleep xxxx in it.plus my payslips.....
DH: passes his statement to him,here is mine......
VO: I have seen enough,
DH: still tries to talk to him to take a look at the documents.
VO: I have seen enough and Will ask for more documents if I want to see them.
He was already typing on and on......Brings out the blue slip and says sorry.........................
DH&I: Thanks.
All of us denied.

We came out and saw one young well dressed man who was just denied with medics around him.taking his BP. The guy was crying and lamenting and demanding to know the justification for his refusal

We got back to our hotel thanked God for how it went. I was sad yes but I thanked God from my heavy heart.....

That day I filled another DS160 and we decided that i apply alone this time as hubby was due back for work., . So i applied to Lagos In case I needed to travel by road for the interview. Ph to Abuja for a preggy was unreasonable. DH managed to accept LAGOS.

The following day being 1st of December I scheduled an appointment for late January which was very unreasonable as *I would have put to bed* wink
I then e-mailed our dear Peace on this forum and she explained how she went about her expedited appointment.

On the 5th of Dec,I applied for the expedited appointment and got an approval that same day.i was amazed at how fast the response came. God did it.I called DH that night and told him,we have thanks and slept.this time I was relaxed.

Fast forward to 8th December
Interview post: Lagos
Appointment: 6:30am

VO:

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Nobody: 8:00pm On Dec 22, 2017
Madam, u have tried.. Give birth here and open a trust Acct with d cash.
ugoguchy:
@omodadi i think i know who interviewed you,is same lady that interviewed me,she has issues with discount,becos she also asked me why i had some much discounts,mine i paid 5500 for hospital,1800 for dr

Please i really need help,if you go through my first transcript here of my first visa,you will clearly see where i said the Vo asked if i was pregnant and if i would give birth in the US which i answered yes,but the trip was first for vacation which i did go for before going back to give birth,and i have never hidden my intentions too at the POE,fast forward to my renewal i was called in for a follow up,booked appt and went and was denied based on the fact that i didnt say i was going to give birth (which i remember clearly i stated)after much explanations and all i was denied,the VO said it was recorded in my transcript,that she only sees i said i was pregnant
I reapplied again,had my interview on tuesday and same question came up,and i told the VO i did mention that in my interview and he says same thing that is not in my transcript and i was denied again for the 2nd time
I did feel very bad,and also confused because i dont know what i will do again,am completely lost
I dont stay in abj,i had to book flights and book hotel just to attend my appointments and i get a no at d end of all these
I paid all my bills and have my receipts,including zero balance and i also had to call the hospitals to make sure none of the discounts where shifted to the govt like i have been reading so far

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