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gypsey:
look! i just gave my opinion on pastors and prophets, they are all crooks who are in the business of selling false hopes to ignorant and poverty stricken folks, who believes that one day their lives might get better, by buying this false hopes, it is my opinion afterall, you don't have to like it. suggesting that God should have mercy on me is just Ridiculous, because as you have asserted quite rightly, who is with the truth? we don't even know what God's opinion is on the these crooked so called pastors and prophets, and here you are defending these crooks.

nkwuocha:
Your friend is correct. I prefer true prophet of God to pastors. True prophets of God are messengers of God and they are there to solely bring us to God through deliverance. The level of grace they have can't be compared with pastors.That's why many of them aren't rich(genuine ones o),Ita whatever you have ,and can give they collect. I respect genuine prophets from CAC and white garments ones, although I'm a Catholic.There are charismatic priests that are so strong in the spiritual that could also be called prophets.

Last Christmas, I was fixing my car and a man on white walked up to me and called me aside. I followed him,despite my initial relunctance. He told me flatly that someone deposited something in a new project going on in the village and told me exactly where.He gave me prayers and psalms and went on his way.He refused to take a dime.Out of fear I didn't travel again,but asked someone to check. The person confirmed it exactly the location inside an already erected fence and burnt it.It was a live tortoise tied in red clothes.

Any body can be pastor or pastorpreneur.Anybody can be called a prophet because many are watching their eyes diabolical to see things,but they can never solve your problem without going through same diabolical/devilish means. A true prophet of God eats prayers and fasting like food. They load you with prayers and fortify you with Psalms of warefare and deliverance. They don't care about designers suit and hardly take a second look at the things of this world. May God bless genuine prophets of God.Its not easy sincerely. They hardly sleep.

nkwuocha:
Your friend is correct. I prefer true prophet of God to pastors. True prophets of God are messengers of God and they are there to solely bring us to God through deliverance. The level of grace they have can't be compared with pastors.That's why many of them aren't rich(genuine ones o),Ita whatever you have ,and can give they collect. I respect genuine prophets from CAC and white garments ones, although I'm a Catholic.There are charismatic priests that are so strong in the spiritual that could also be called prophets.

Last Christmas, I was fixing my car and a man on white walked up to me and called me aside. I followed him,despite my initial relunctance. He told me flatly that someone deposited something in a new project going on in the village and told me exactly where.He gave me prayers and psalms and went on his way.He refused to take a dime.Out of fear I didn't travel again,but asked someone to check. The person confirmed it exactly the location inside an already erected fence and burnt it.It was a live tortoise tied in red clothes.

Any body can be pastor or pastorpreneur.Anybody can be called a prophet because many are watching their eyes diabolical to see things,but they can never solve your problem without going through same diabolical/devilish means. A true prophet of God eats prayers and fasting like food. They load you with prayers and fortify you with Psalms of warefare and deliverance. They don't care about designers suit and hardly take a second look at the things of this world. May God bless genuine prophets of God.Its not easy sincerely. They hardly sleep.

Johncuppa:
Lol! You funny sir.
So not being rich is an evidence of genuine prophets.
CAC and white garments people are poor because of their background.
They are the first indigenous Churches and were not thought "the Word of faith and prosperity" until the coming of Pentecostals.
The very reason many left for Pentecostals.
It's about ideology of denomination, not having anything to do with genuine or fake.

gypsey:
look! i just gave my opinion on pastors and prophets, they are all crooks who are in the business of selling false hopes to ignorant and poverty stricken folks, who believes that one day their lives might get better, by buying this false hopes, it is my opinion afterall, you don't have to like it. suggesting that God should have mercy on me is just Ridiculous, because as you have asserted quite rightly, who is with the truth? we don't even know what God's opinion is on the these crooked so called pastors and prophets, and here you are defending these crooks.

nkwuocha:
Read well.I never generalize. I'm not talking about pastors here because many are smooth talkers.I know wealthy genuine prophet/prophetess of God,and yes they don't flaunt it. They do not really emphasize on prosperity, but salvation and deliverance. Many of them can't even preach well,some employ pastors to help them.Money is not everything. Some people have problems money can't solve.

"Word of faith w prosperity"is for pastorpreneurs.The word of God said seek ye first the kingdom of God.That's why many Pentecostal churches are business centres.Any messenger of God that don't care about how you live a godly life is a joke.

God is not a foolish person that's why he gives his grace to serious people.It doesn't matter your domination or age.I know of an 11 year old prophet. Although still under the supervision of his parents, the boy go tell you what you are doing in secret that is offending God hoooha!!!Things many of your pastors consciously overlook or don't have the grace to decipher.Many prophet has lost that grace because they became greedy and crooky.Genuine prophets of God just need patience and more grace so that God will announce them in his own way.

victorazyvictor:
Am not defending anyone, I only saying the little I know by the wisdom God gave me. Anyway, that's ur opinion .

Johncuppa:
OK sir.
But do you know Idahosa and Oyedepo are Prophets just like Ayo Babalola. The difference is in their ideology.
Babalola was self thought while Idahosa moved with the west- Hagin, Copland and the rest where he learned that poverty is not a measure of HOLINESS but an inheritance of redemption, from where Oyedepo, Adeboye, Oyakhilome, Oritsajafor got the prosperity message.

One thing is to have the grace and call of God, another thing is to have knowledge and accurate understanding of the Word. Anointing requires Knowledge to deliver well.

Idahosa was as useful as Babalola yet was prosper in all ramifications.
That some are not rich does not mean they have more grace than the rest.

favourmic:
A pastor = Alufa
A prophet = woli

Martin0:
Well as u can see god has not called him yet
Maybe when god call him then he will be among them

gypsey:
Good! just because they claim to be or call themselves pastors and prophets doesn't mean that people should not query their Activities, we are meant to our God's given brains, not let crooked prophets and pastors use it for us, by the way who made them prophets or pastors?

And i think it's About time these crooks start paying taxes, it's has been obvious that they are Appear to be making too much money. by their outrageous lifestyles.

LionDeLeo:
The pastor preaches the Gospel, nothing more.

The Prophet is a spiritualist, though uses bible to cover up, to get more clients. Babalawo is another name for these prophet.

Not, I'm not referring to the historic prophets of God. By prophet, I mean the likes of TB Joshua.

akeentech:
I'm different from those pastors because I don't extort anybody to make my money

gypsey:
yep! God must call all of us, because we are all men of God! and if God has called them they must show us the certificate that Go called them and were God signed the certificate! otherwise they are just crooked business men.

akeentech:
One is a thief (pastor) while the other is a scammer (prophet).

Pierohandsome:
this is whr u are getting it wrong. U mistake those people that wil start listing things that wil happen in 2017 or any other year as prophets. Is that how u judge ur own view of prophets.

That another person came to the media and be saying things that wil happen and Oyedepo doesnt do all those frivolities makes him less a proohet? How does those prophecy affect you personally.

Proohets are those sent to prepare God's people for His plan for the moment. If he says ' 2017 your case is different' , that is the message God sent him to deliver to His people, my case is different is not a slogan but a covenant for the people. If he says ' 2018 your new dawn'. That is the message for 2018. So he shows u ur own part of the Covenant to fulfill as directed by God for your case to be truly different

That somebody came and say 'there wil be plane crash for 2017 in Malaysia and it came to pass, is that what u mistake as been prophetic? Dnt mistake vision for prophecy anybody can have vision ,that doesnt make that person a prophet.

Prophets are agents of liberation, they execute the judgement written, and stand in gap for the pepple. That is what it means to be a prophet. Not one person that wil jst start saying things like Buhari wil win election, or there wil be bomb blast and u say that is a prophet. That is vision, and anybody filled in the spirit can have visions

victorazyvictor:
Bible has already tell that "By their footstep you shall know them" so it left for u.

My problem with you is that your generalizing and it can open a door of temptation to you, I know what am saying and I don't know how to break it down to you, reason why we say "don't lead us into temptation"

I don't know if ur really a christian (i doubt) by the way u condemn men of God, be careful sha, ur playing with fire.

gypsey:
look! here! my friend! i don't care what the fuvking bible says! it's all fictions! a book written 4000 years ago! by who? there are no prove on who wrote this lies called the bible, do you even know the history of christianity and the bible? i don't think so!
temptations? there is nothing called temptations!! it's all in your head! can you tell me what temptations you mean exactly? you don't know jack! you are just repeating what your crooked pastor have made you believe. No! i am not a christian! i don't believe in religion! it's all a way to brainwash and control folks like you! i am playing with fire? which fire? my friend! worry about yourself, don't worry about me, i am allowed to call these people crooks until they can prove me wrong!
I am SATAN!! now stick with me and i will show you things you could never in your widest dreams come across. the bible does not exists!! before religion our forefathes managed to survive and live there lives, so fucvk!! them pastors and prophets!! they are all crooks!!

victorazyvictor:

nickxtra:
Prophet is the biblical name or appellation for a Pastor.

LionDeLeo:
The pastor preaches the Gospel, nothing more .

The Prophet is a spiritualist, though uses bible to cover up, to get more clients. Babalawo is another name for these prophet.

Not, I'm not referring to the historic prophets of God. By prophet, I mean the likes of TB Joshua.

nkwuocha:
Your friend is correct. I prefer true prophet of God to pastors. True prophets of God are messengers of God and they are there to solely bring us to God through deliverance. The level of grace they have can't be compared with pastors.There are people that will pray from january to december,yet nothing will happen,but the grace a true prophet of God has can deliver/help you.That's why many of them aren't rich(genuine ones o),It's whatever you have ,and can give they collect. I respect genuine prophets from CAC and white garments ones, although I'm a Catholic.There are charismatic priests that are so strong in the spiritual that could also be called prophets.

Last Christmas, I was fixing my car and a man on white walked up to me and called me aside. I followed him,despite my initial relunctance. He told me flatly that someone deposited something in a new project going on in the village and told me exactly where.He gave me prayers and psalms and went on his way.He refused to take a dime.Out of fear I didn't travel again,but asked someone to check. The person confirmed it exactly the location inside an already erected fence and burnt it.It was a live tortoise tied in red clothes.

Any body can be pastor or pastorpreneur.Anybody can be called a prophet because many are watching their eyes diabolical to see things,but they can never solve your problem without going through same diabolical/devilish means. A true prophet of God eats prayers and fasting like food. They load you with prayers and fortify you with Psalms of warfare and deliverance. They tell you where youve offended God and admonish you to ask for mercy.No be to kneel down say "abeg baba God mercy na",Mba!!Sometimes you need to go through restitutions to repair Some damages,it wont be easy but they will guide you.They don't care about designers suit and hardly take a second look at the things of this world. May God bless genuine prophets of God.Its not easy sincerely. They hardly sleep.

1Sharon:
It doesn't matter

victorazyvictor:
You still never understand the passage.

In the bible there is no word as pastor. Pastors is known as teachers of the word of God and they fell in the category that has the spirit of wisdom, faith, knowledge only but you can acquire more as desired by Fasting and Prayers.

But a Prophect is a seer.
The one who speaks God's mind at a particular time and place.

A pastor can also acquire the spirit based on his capacity because they come with different sacrifices.

omoelerin1:
Sincerely speaking, I like your analysis and description about a prophet. It is perfectly correct. This is the best comment on this thread. I must say, I gain more knowledge from this write up, as short as it is.

Probably, your good self is a prophet or you have deep knowledge of the scripture.