Oldies . . . . Ilyushin Il-18V , gouvernemental transport , Algerian AF

start service in 1964

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRpupUql8m4

Nigeria to acquire war planes, weapons in deal with U.S.

Patchesagain:


(he doesnt know about Graviteam Tactics)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RPAaxXSt7I


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoG4e1_pskw

They have an entire DLC dedicated to the war in Angola - with multiple battles to run through.

$5-15 on Steam rights now - but be warned, you are gunna need a decent rig to run it nicely

Looks fvcking legit....reminds me of hearts of iron, but on a smaller scale and better graphic!!

Supreme ruler is more of a RTS geo-political game, but with a very decent military component although not as realistic and in depth as Hoi.

jln115:

The irony..... There was literally no argument until you started one!!!

No one even mentioned the mokopa, before you brought it up!!

Nairaland did not give anybody power to choose my words for me, no rule says I cannot criticise Mokopa same way your RSA group criticizes ARA MRAP.

Stop telling lies, I NEVER started Tucano APKWS classified tech argument, @Saengine and somebody began the argument, later I joined. Your own arguments are not arguments, but my own comment is the only argument?

Keep deceiving yourself as if you dont know Patches is the number one derailer on this thread and never wants to agree when clearly proved wrong, he turns it to endless argument till thread catches fire, he then calls the moderators and tell lies to shift blame on someone else.

SupremeCourt:


Nairaland did not give anybody power to choose my words for me, no rule says I cannot criticise Mokopa same way your RSA group criticizes ARA MRAP.

Stop telling lies, I NEVER started Tucano APKWS classified tech argument, @Saengine and somebody began the argument, later I joined. Your own arguments are not arguments, but my own comment is the only argument?

Keep deceiving yourself as if you dont know Patches is the number one derailer on this thread and never wants to agree when clearly proved wrong, he turns it to endless argument till thread catches fire, he then calls the moderators and tell lies to shift blame on someone else.

Your last post got deleted?

You want to get deleted again?

Algerian1:
NORA B-52 Self Propelled Gun-Howitzer tested by Algerian army

Since this thing came out a decade ago its sold very well. We got 2 batteries,18 units and I see both Bangladesh and Myanmar are buying. At 4 mn$ its half the price of similar models from Sweden,South Africa and France. All prices from here:
http://nationsdawnofanera.weebly.com/artillery-systems.html

kikuyu1:


Since this thing came out a decade ago its sold very well. We got 2 batteries,18 units and I see both Bangladesh and Myanmar are buying. At 4 mn$ its half the price of similar models from Sweden,South Africa and France. All prices from here:
http://nationsdawnofanera.weebly.com/artillery-systems.html

A credible source would be appreciated, thanks.

frumentius:


A credible source would be appreciated, thanks.

That source Imo is the best. Caesar 8.2 mn, Atmos 6.75 mn, Koalitsya 8.2 mn, G6 7.5 MN, G6 52 10.4 mn etc etc. It has prices FOR ALL WEAPONS SYSTEMS including SAMs,tactical missiles,UAVs and even ISRs.

This site contains information intended for the game NATIONS: Dawn of an Era. The equipment that is listed comes from various sources, such as 21C, Army Guide, Deagel.com, Military Today, and Wikipedia. The site will gradually be updated in the future and future expansions of the military equipment list might include infantry support weapons, ATGMs, anti-ship missiles, aircraft armament and various other systems.

The prices listed here function as a price guide that supersedes/overrides anything anyone has posted in their arms market or any other thread. Any military transfer of equipment will be done for the prices stated here. An exception to this general rule is made for the sale of second-hand equipment, which can be sold at whatever price the owner is willing to sell for, and for aid packages. It should however be noted that aid packages will require the approval of the mods/avs.

http://nationsdawnofanera.weebly.com/

kikuyu1:


That source Imo is the best. Caesar 8.2 mn, Atmos 6.75 mn, Koalitsya 8.2 mn, G6 7.5 MN, G6 52 10.4 mn etc etc. It has prices FOR ALL WEAPONS SYSTEMS including SAMs,tactical missiles,UAVs and even ISRs.



http://nationsdawnofanera.weebly.com/

A gaming site that has prices for things that never even made it past the 1st prototype phase?

kikuyu1, away from gaming to reality: have you seen this outrage?

https://www.military.com/dodbuzz/2017/12/19/marine-corps-ditches-towed-mortar-system-push-fund-modernization.html

No rest for the weary: 17 Squadron SAAF and Halo Aviation at a joint rescue in Rustenburg.

tunisian national gard

Tunisian B.N.I.R [ police Quick Intervention National Brigade ]

patches689:


F16 is single engine multi-role

Rafael is twin engines air-superiority fighter

Why do people not understand this?

Rafale is F15 Eagle class.

The January issue of Air Forces Monthly confirms that Paramount will train ATAC's US pilots flying the newly acquired 63 Mirage F1.

frumentius:
kikuyu1, away from gaming to reality: have you seen this outrage?

https://www.military.com/dodbuzz/2017/12/19/marine-corps-ditches-towed-mortar-system-push-fund-modernization.html

Nothing to see here, just Marines being Marines.

IT appears the Royal Thai AF has followed our example of pairing the Litening targeting pod with the GBU-12 Paveway LGB on the Gripen.

Patchesagain:

Nothing to see here, just Marines being Marines.

Soon to appear with an incompetent Gulf military near you, as a result of those Foreign Military Sale funding mechanisms the Yanks are always throwing about .

Seriously though, I think the Parabats made a mistake passing on the Valkiri 5, just because the Recces did, in favour of the type-63.
Parabats could do with a towed Valkiri 5 and and improved/guided 120mm mortar.

nemesis4u:
kill probability etc given by OEM r calculated under test conditions , in real world one will get surprised more often if one decides to take the same as the gospel truth

every weapon system has counters (which again has counters and again.............so forth , actually it is a game of ringa ringa roses ), it depends on activating the right one at the right time at the right place .

eg. laser guided systems can be defeated by laser beam dispersing aerosol mists

Yes, but many guided weapon manufacturers have official hit rate so user knows what to expect in war, some missiles as low as 60%.

Mokopa was not laser jammed when it missed easiest target in the world, gripen plus rooivalk combined computer guidance on a target set neatly like dining table food and mokopa launch pilots were told what and where target is so demo can impress Nigeria buyers at the show, yet mokopa still missed target under such super easy conditions, DENEL dare not come out boast of any hit rate like APKWS that is world beater at 93% kill probability.

If it was South Africa that achieves 93% score they wont tell you hit rate does not make any guided missile or rocket a leader in its class. These RSA guys just twist tales to have good sleep at night when their inflated ego balloon meets sharp needle.

If NAF Tucanos APKWS hi-tech is common knowledge as South Africans claim, why cant DENEL make mokopa technology score 93% hit rate? Hehehehe, Okokobioko nite of tausand laffs

SupremeCourt:


Yes, but many guided weapon manufacturers have official hit rate so user knows what to expect in war, some missiles as low as 60%.

Mokopa was not laser jammed when it missed easiest target in the world, gripen plus rooivalk combined computer guidance on a target set neatly like dining table food and mokopa launch pilots were told what and where target is so demo can impress Nigeria buyers at the show, yet mokopa still missed target under such super easy conditions, DENEL dare not come out boast of any hit rate like APKWS that is world beater at 93% kill probability.

If it was South Africa that achieves 93% score they wont tell you hit rate does not make any guided missile or rocket a leader in its class. These RSA guys just twist tales to have good sleep at night when their inflated ego balloon meets sharp needle.

If NAF Tucanos APKWS hi-tech is common knowledge as South Africans claim, why cant DENEL make mokopa technology score 93% hit rate? Hehehehe, Okokobioko nite of tausand laffs

(He thinks firing a missile from one platform and feeding it targeting data from another platform, at max range, is easy)

The Makopa test firing in question was LOAL - High:

Prior to launch, target information must be supplied via the on-board sighting system or from an external source. After launch, the missile flies towards the target area, using the selected trajectory and fly-out method. During the terminal phase, the target must be illuminated by the on-board sighting system or a remote designator.

Makopa has a deviance of 0.3m at 10km - that means at 10km, it will hit within a 30cm circle of the target
http://weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/HH06%20-%20Mokopa.html

Mokopa technolodgy is advanced enough, Mossad embarked on a 3 year long campaign to steal it
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/mokopa.htm

Now, Augustine, your questions have been answered. Please stop trying to cause conflict and unnecessary discussion on this thread. You may want to argue, but this thread is not the place. If you wish to have arguments go to:
----> https://www.nairaland.com/415620/strongest-military-africa
---->https://www.nairaland.com/2239266/battle-field-discussion-picture-video

Footage contrasts with self-congratulatory pro-government media coverage of the attack, which praised police response Video clips circulating on social media on Saturday show the gunman who opened fire outside an Egyptian church and a nearby store owned by a Copt in an attack that killed at least nine people walking armed and unchallenged on a residential street for nearly 10 minutes.The gunman, the videos show, stops only occasionally to shoot at his pursuers before he is himself shot.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byb3a7QbMLE

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPFsWyWMXYI

From the cockpit of a Kenya airforce f-5 tiger

SupremeCourt:


Yes, but many guided weapon manufacturers have official hit rate so user knows what to expect in war, some missiles as low as 60%.

seriously ?

what about the proficiency of the user ?
what about the environmental/weather conditions ?
what about the battlefield tactics and counter tactics ?
what about counter measures ?
what about counter platform measures ?
what about denial of target data ?
etc
etc

every weapons OEM designated kill probability is calculated under test conditions and under optimal conditions.

if the conditions r favorable then expect results as given by OEM otherwise in real war all these OEM kill probability figures will go for a toss.

anyways believe what u want to believe , i have no problem with that.

frumentius:

Soon to appear with an incompetent Gulf military near you, as a result of those Foreign Military Sale funding mechanisms the Yanks are always throwing about .

Seriously though, I think the Parabats made a mistake passing on the Valkiri 5, just because the Recces did, in favour of the type-63.
Parabats could do with a towed Valkiri 5 and and improved/guided 120mm mortar.

Even the origional Valkiri should be enough for the paras, they could bring it in via TALO.

Fun fact: The Valkiri was made 127mm so that it could fire captured Soviet ammo, but at the same time, if the Angolans captured South African ammo - they would be unable to use it on their BM-21 Grad, because the Grade fires 122mm.

Moroccan Navy

moroccan army during Joint "African Sea Lion 2016" exercise with the US Navy

more

nemesis4u:


seriously ?

what about the proficiency of the user ?
what about the environmental/weather conditions ?
what about the battlefield tactics and counter tactics ?
what about counter measures ?
what about counter platform measures ?
what about denial of target data ?
etc
etc

every weapons OEM designated kill probability is calculated under test conditions and under optimal conditions.

if the conditions r favorable then expect results as given by OEM otherwise in real war all these OEM kill probability figures will go for a toss.

anyways believe what u want to believe , i have no problem with that.

Don't mind him joor

Oldies.. Antonov 12 Algerian AF

start service in 1965

Patchesagain:


(He thinks firing a missile from one platform and feeding it targeting data from another platform, at max range, is easy)

The Makopa test firing in question was LOAL - High:

Prior to launch, target information must be supplied via the on-board sighting system or from an external source. After launch, the missile flies towards the target area, using the selected trajectory and fly-out method. During the terminal phase, the target must be illuminated by the on-board sighting system or a remote designator.

Makopa has a deviance of 0.3m at 10km - that means at 10km, it will hit within a 30cm circle of the target
http://weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/HH06%20-%20Mokopa.html

Mokopa technolodgy is advanced enough, Mossad embarked on a 3 year long campaign to steal it
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/mokopa.htm

Now, Augustine, your questions have been answered. Please stop trying to cause conflict and unnecessary discussion on this thread. You may want to argue, but this thread is not the place. If you wish to have arguments go to:
----> https://www.nairaland.com/415620/strongest-military-africa
---->https://www.nairaland.com/2239266/battle-field-discussion-picture-video

Denel now has a Iron dome interceptor looking missile. The Cheetah.

newafricaken254:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPFsWyWMXYI

the guy that taked the Ak from the terrorist ! what bravery

frumentius:
kikuyu1, away from gaming to reality: have you seen this outrage?

https://www.military.com/dodbuzz/2017/12/19/marine-corps-ditches-towed-mortar-system-push-fund-modernization.html

My,my,my! Imo,its not so much a Marine thing but an American thing; an insistence on the simple and easy in all ways and all things. Listen to the Lt.Gen himself:

"We made that decision to divest of it, and we're going to move that money into some other area, probably into the precision fires area," Walsh said. "So programs that we see as not as viable, this [program objective memorandum] development that we're doing right now is to really look at those areas critically and see what can we divest of to free money up to modernize."

https://www.military.com/dodbuzz/2017/12/19/marine-corps-ditches-towed-mortar-system-push-fund-modernization.html
Obviously he imagines the 70 mn$ platforms of his tac air with all their 100 k PGMs will always be available.