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removetheturban:
We serve the one true God, Jehovah. Jesus himself confirmed that in John 17:3. Do you believe Jesus?

so Thomas was wrong to have called Jesus his God or John was wrong to have recorded it? Or Jesus was wrong to not have corrected him? Tell us

salvation101:
u think he is dumb? U think he will not check previous comments before doing dat? Go ahead and report to him na

I never threaten to REPORT. Why should I? I am only appealing that you stay on the topic. It is not mandatory for no one has the right here on a public forum. Do not be scared

salvation101:
so Thomas was wrong to have called Jesus his God or John was wrong to have recorded it? Or Jesus was wrong to not have corrected him? Tell us

The same John wrote 1 John 4:12

1 John 4:12Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
12 No one has ever seen God. But if we love each other, God lives in us. If we love each other, God’s love has reached its goal—it is made perfect in us.

Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

removetheturban:
I never threaten to REPORT. Why should I? I am only appealing that you stay on the topic. It is not mandatory for no one has the right here on a public forum. Do not be scared

scared? Wat would it cost me to open Salvation102 or 103 or 500? I came ready

removetheturban:
They pick up stones to stone him but he told them that he is a god quoting the book of Psalms. What do you say about that?

Was his declaration a false claim? You still have not answered my question about who the Father spoke to when He said let us make man in our own image . Please help me with John 10:30-34

removetheturban:
The same John wrote 1 John 4:12

1 John 4:12Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
12 No one has ever seen God. But if we love each other, God lives in us. If we love each other, God’s love has reached its goal—it is made perfect in us.

Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

ok.. Back to my question, was Thomas wrong to av called Jesus his God or John wrong to have recorded it or Jesus wrong to av accepted?

salvation101:
scared? Wat would it cost me to open Salvation102 or 103 or 500? I came ready

Is that a threat to Asewa?

removetheturban:
Is that a threat to Asewa?

nope.. An assurance to u dat u won't av to miss me
Is Jesus ur God? Do u know better than the apotle Thomas?

removetheturban:
Stay on the topic of this thread. Forget about those swinging moves. When Jesus said I and the father are one, what is the position of the holy spirit in that statement?

You just trying to do damage control. Be arguing from silence. This your question is a question from an assumption you made. The Bible tells us that Jesus said I and the father are one. If you like turn a blind eye to the verses after John 10:30.
The question about the position of the holy spirit is never mentioned. Don't come here and act smart when you are indeed very foolish.

The question you are supposed ask is why the Jewish wanted to stone Jesus? But I know you wouldn't ask that part because you like the Jewish accuse Jesus of blasphemy because he said he a man is God.

Don't ask an abstract question and never ask what the Bible never says it is deceitful.
Just look at yourself
You say in your question Jesus says I and the father are one - this is in the Bible
You then go on to say: "from that verse what is the position of the holy spirit?" - this is not in anyway related to that verse as it is a deceitful way of asking questions from the Bible. You are trying so hard to prove that your doctrine is true.


You formulate an assumption, derive a question from that assumption and tie it to any verse you like. How do you people reason sef?
I no be mumu o. You no fit deceive me o

Right from the day Jesus was born, wise men bowed down to worship him.. He never refused worship. Do u worship Jesus?

aigboeben:
Was his declaration a false claim?

Can you paraphrase your question?

aigboeben:
You still have not answered my question about who the Father spoke to when He said let us make man in our own image.

The Bible said that Jesus was at his side all through the creative process and everything was made THROUGH him, Jesus who is the FIRSTBORN of ALL creation

aigboeben:
Please help me with John 10:30-34

John 10:30-34
I and the Father are one.” 31 Once again the Jews picked up stones to stone him.+ 32 Jesus replied to them: “I displayed to you many fine works from the Father. For which of those works are you stoning me?” 33 The Jews answered him: “We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy;+ for you, although being a man, make yourself a god.” 34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’?

the above is John 10:30-34. have you ever checked the letter used to write that emboldened word at the end?
Do you believe that Jesus is the firstBORN of all creation?

There is no hiding place for you today sir. U said we should go back to the topic, now we are here...

Matthew 2:11 (ESV)
11 And going into the house, they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshiped him. Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh

John 12:13 (ESV)
13 So they took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him, crying out, “Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel!”

Matthew 14:33 (ESV)
33 And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”

Matthew 28:8–9 (ESV)
8 So they departed quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him.

Matthew 28:9 (ESV)
9 And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him

Jesus disciples worshiped him on several occasions... Are you a disciple of Jesus? Do you worship Jesus?

salvation101:
ok.. Back to my question, was Thomas wrong to av called Jesus his God or John wrong to have recorded it or Jesus wrong to av accepted?

That leaves you with your own understanding. The events that led to the incident needs to be taken into account. If Thomas' statement truly meant that he believed that Jesus was God, surely John would have shown Thomas prostrating himself before “God” and worshipping him but he didn’t

In John 20:17 Jesus said that our God is Jehovah and that is his own God.

removetheturban:
Can you paraphrase your question? The Bible said that Jesus was at his side all through the creative process and everything was made THROUGH him, Jesus who is the FIRSTBORN of ALL creation
John 10:30-34
I and the Father are one.” 31 Once again the Jews picked up stones to stone him.+ 32 Jesus replied to them: “I displayed to you many fine works from the Father. For which of those works are you stoning me?” 33 The Jews answered him: “We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy;+ for you, although being a man, make yourself a god.” 34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’?

the above is John 10:30-34. have you ever checked the letter used to write that emboldened word at the end?
Do you believe that Jesus is the firstBORN of all creation?

What is there to paraphrase? First born of all creation (Colossians 1:15-18)? Please don't pick text out of context. John 1:1?......the Word was God. What was the blasphemy of Jesus by the Jews standards?

salvation101:
nope.. An assurance to u dat u won't av to miss me
Is Jesus ur God? Do u know better than the apotle Thomas?

Haha that is a good line. I do not even know you personally to miss you that much.

aigboeben:
What is there to paraphrase? First born of all creation? John 1:1?......the Word was God. What was the blasphemy of Jesus by the Jews standards?

get the word "blasphemy" they blasphemed that Jesus made himself god but Jesus corrected them and asserted that he only said that he was the son of God. John 10:36 ( take note! Not God).

I am sure that you understood me clearly when I asked you to paraphrase your question.

removetheturban:
Stay on the topic of this thread. Forget about those swinging moves. When Jesus said I and the father are one, what is the position of the holy spirit in that statement?

You ask a question made from an assumption and you think you are smart. Let me show you your foolishness step by step.

The Bible says Jesus says that I and my father are one.

Watchtower logic:
1. You then imagine in your head that The Bible did not mention the holy spirit so Jesus is not God. So therefore we can assume that the holy spirit is not one.
2. So we can formulate the question and ask what is the position of the holy spirit? And incorporate it into that verse to ask people who use this verse to argue Jesus is God

My own take on your question :
You are arguing from silence. Like I said I don't listen to assumptions and hearsay. My question will come from the Bible

Why did the Jews want to stone Jesus?
This is what I expected you to ask. I knew you were not going to ask it because like the Jewish you would have stoned Jesus for blasphemy.

Never add a question based on your assumption to a legit verse in the Bible. Your organization is just too deceitful.
Well, your question can't be answered because it isn't even stated in the Bible.
When you want to prove your doctrines are true by all means you tend to ask questions about things not ever stated in the Bible. I can think for myself you can't deceive me.

removetheturban:
get the word "blasphemy" they blasphemed that Jesus made himself god but Jesus corrected them and asserted that he only said that he was the son of God. John 10:36 ( take note! Not God).

I am sure that you understood me clearly when I asked you to paraphrase your question.

So why did they still want to kill him even after asserting He was the Son of God?
Why did he have to slip out of the crowd?

salvation101:
There is no hiding place for you today sir. U said we should go back to the topic, now we are here...

It sounds like you are choking already. No hiding place for you today Are you this low?
welcome back to the topic anyway.

salvation101:
Matthew 2:11 (ESV)
11 And going into the house, they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshiped him. Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh

John 12:13 (ESV)
13 So they took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him, crying out, “Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel!”

Matthew 14:33 (ESV)
33 And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”

Matthew 28:8–9 (ESV)
8 So they departed quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him.

Matthew 28:9 (ESV)
9 And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him

Jesus disciples worshiped him on several occasions... Are you a disciple of Jesus? Do you worship Jesus?

You have to blame your Bible translation for all that deceit. Try digging deeper into the Greek words used in worship and obeisance and honour etc and fix your thought. You are not yet here. Not enough punch. Still hollow. Concentrate on the truth not blasphemy.

removetheturban:
Is he the almighty God?

Yes he is Almighty God

removetheturban:
You should tell us, rather. What name did he declare?

it is not compulsory to quote me without supplying the need answer. Do you know how this your reply look?




































































































DUMB!




















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I bet it is easier to answer a question than slurring. Raining insults does not bring out any point. Why not concentrate your intelligence on reasoning than being ungracious with words.

you will not tell the questions in my head. All you do is give me an answer for what I asked.

@salvation101 is this how you get agitated over a simple question? Hairy it is only a question. Why are you so upset?

Hairyrapunzel:
You just trying to do damage control. Be arguing from silence. This your question is a question from an assumption you made. The Bible tells us that Jesus said I and the father are one. If you like turn a blind eye to the verses after John 10:30.
The question about the position of the holy spirit is never mentioned. Don't come here and act smart when you are indeed very foolish.

The question you are supposed ask is why the Jewish wanted to stone Jesus? But I know you wouldn't ask that part because you like the Jewish accuse Jesus of blasphemy because he said he a man is God.

Don't ask an abstract question and never ask what the Bible never says it is deceitful.
Just look at yourself
You say in your question Jesus says I and the father are one - this is in the Bible
You then go on to say: "from that verse what is the position of the holy spirit?" - this is not in anyway related to that verse as it is a deceitful way of asking questions from the Bible. You are trying so hard to prove that your doctrine is true.


You formulate an assumption, derive a question from that assumption and tie it to any verse you like. How do you people reason sef?
I no be mumu o. You no fit deceive me o

solite3:
it is not compulsory to quote me without supplying the need answer. Do you know how this your reply look?
b]DUMB![/b]
Next

I just arranged the DUMB
I believe this is how we were all taught to space our paragraphs.

Hairyrapunzel:
Yes he is Almighty God

Thank you! How many persons did he says he and his father are in John 8:17-18?

removetheturban:
I just arranged the DUMB
I believe this is how we were all taught to space our paragraphs.

I didn't ask you about paragraphs. Meanwhile, my questions are still pending.

They wanted to kill him because they BLASPHEMED that he was making himself equal to God.
Did you take note of the word 'BLASPHEMED'.
what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?

John 10:36Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
36 So why do you accuse me of insulting God for saying, ‘I am God’s Son’? I am the one God chose and sent into the world.

John 10:36Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
36 So why do you accuse me of insulting God for saying, ‘I am God’s Son’? I am the one God chose and sent into the world.

And guess what! Jesus corrected their blasphemy and said the above

Hairyrapunzel:
So why did they still want to kill him even after asserting He was the Son of God?
Why did he have to slip out of the crowd?

solite3:
I didn't ask you about paragraphs. Meanwhile, my questions are still pending.

Do you admit that your action above was unexpected of someone representative of God?

You threw a burning question and we are not firefighters. Can you rephrase the question?

@salvation101 ! can see you online. Can you just say "hello" so that I will know that you are okay?

removetheturban:
Do you admit that your action above was unexpected of someone representative of God?

You threw a burning question and we are not firefighters. Can you rephrase the question?

my actions? I said your reply to my posts was dumb because it did not tally with the issue at stake.

OK let me go over the question again.
When Jesus said he declared God's name, which name did he declare and which verse?,
U see short and clear question I see no reason why it should become a headache.
Any Jehovah witness can answer the question by going straight to point.

removetheturban:
It sounds like you are choking already. No hiding place for you today Are you this low?
welcome back to the topic anyway. You have to blame your Bible translation for all that deceit. Try digging deeper into the Greek words used in worship and obeisance and honour etc and fix your thought. You are not yet here. Not enough punch. Still hollow. Concentrate on the truth not blasphemy.

ok its about Greek now huh, no problem..

Please count how many times the word worship was used in the following verses and tell me how it reads in ur Bible..
Our fathers worshiped on this mountain. But you Jews say that Jerusalem is the place where people must worship.” Jesus said, “Believe me, woman! The time is coming when you will not have to be in Jerusalem or on this mountain to worship the Father. You Samaritans worship something you don’t understand. We Jews understand what we worship, since salvation comes from the Jews. But the time is coming when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth. In fact, that time is now here. And these are the kind of people the Father wants to be his worshipers. God is spirit. So the people who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”
John 4:20‭-‬24 ERV
The greek word translated as worship is Proskuneo.. That is the same word used in matt 2:11, matt 14:33, matt 28:8,9...
Now tell you the moral justification ur society has to manipulate that word in ur Bible? So d Jews went to mountain just to do obeisance? So God wants u to do obeisance to him in spirit and truth?

removetheturban:
@salvation101 ! can see you online. Can you just say "hello" so that I will know that you are okay?

qnd u said u don't miss me .. Well i said more than hello, read up.. And answer this questions..
1.Where the disciples of Jesus wrong to av worshiped him?
2. Was it wrong for the disciples of Jesus to av recorded it in Scripture dat Jesus was worshiped?
3. Was Jesus wrong to not av stopped ppl from worshipping him?
4.Are u a worshiper of Jesus? Are u going to worship him?
5. Do u know better than the apotles?

I see u like eschatology very much and u know so much about it..
Who was the lamb in Revelation 5:14 that the 4 living creatures in heaven and 24 elders worshiped?
Then I heard every created being that is in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, everything in all these places, saying, “All praise and honor and glory and power forever and ever to the one who sits on the throne and to the Lamb!” The four living beings said, “Amen!” And the elders bowed down and worshiped.
Revelation 5:13‭-‬14 ERV
U know better than they?