KPOM!

We can only day dream, my brother. Unfortunately, we Nigerians love money too much. But Roman Abramovich's money made Mikel and his agents (parents?) to lose their heads


O pari

daveP:
I've pushed this stuff to the archives cos it hurts baaadly. What he would have been... Ferguson wouldave fanned the fire of comparism btw he and messi till balon d'Or. but....

daveP:
smh. We naija plenty for social media, but we can't convert the stats to rep our own? 25m nig on i.g and even more on twitter? The platform is still not justified.

To put it in perspective, the Nff has 190k followers on Twitter and Zamalek has 2.4m...
We are ages behind these people.

Icon79:
KPOM!

We can only day dream, my brother. Unfortunately, we Nigerians love money too much. But Roman Abramovich's money made Mikel and his agents (parents?) to lose their heads


O pari

No be day dream o. That manu of then no be here na. cr7 for don recommend him for madrid based on the bond that wouldave happened
Na coulda woulda shoulda anyway.

BascoVanVeli:


To put it in perspective, the Nff has 190k followers on Twitter and Zamalek has 2.4m...
We are ages behind these people.

We have it potentially though. shame on nff social media team though. Enyimba, Kano Pillars own reach 2-8k followers ba? The phrase 'we'l get there' na wash.

Yup. There's no doubt in my mind that he would've been world class. Better than Modric and today would be playing for either Real Madrid or FC Barcelona.

But Jose Mourinho took one of the most talented and most skillful players to ever play the game and turned him into a robotic "destroyer"


O pari

daveP:
No be day dream o. That manu of then no be hear na. cr7 for don recommend him for madrid based on the bond that wouldave happened
Na coulda woulda shoulda anyway.

terzurum5:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0u8f4Onrio


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvJ-VOWFjr8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrFAbJE2G6Q

The first video is for Michael Ohanu while, the last two are for Tosin Omoyele

See stadium. I think I could count like three spectators in the stand. Nawaa ,we gotta do better. How do we bring people out to watch Nigerian leagues because I think that is one of the reason the standards are so poor. Your mentality will change when you see 20,000 spectators in the stand waving flags and screaming.

ADO Den Haag have reportedly offered Norwich City FC target Tyronne Ebuehi new contract.

Icon79:
Mikel is a baller. That guy would've been the modern day Zinadine Zidane if he had played to his potential. He has everything it takes to be a world class playmaker. Whomever convinced him to chose Jose Mourinho's Chelsea ahead of Sir Alex Man Utd needs to jailed.


O pari

y'all are saying this based on hindsight. What is the guarantee that he would have developed properly as an attacking midfielder under Ferguson? Over the years how many world class attacking midfielders did Ferguson produce? I can only remember Scholes. I can also remember him preferring Cleverly to a lot of other better midfielders, what is the guarantee that Mikel would not be overlooked in favour of cleverly? If you ask me I am totally content with the player Mikel is right now, hypothetical he could have developed into a better player and he could have ended up a lot worse as well so we need to accept what we have

daveP:
We have it potentially though. shame on nff social media team though. Enyimba, Kano Pillars own reach 2-8k followers ba? The phrase 'we'l get there' na wash.

lol no o Enyimba I believe is the best in the league with 41K. The pages are there it is just for people to follow.

Icon79:
Yup. There's no doubt in my mind that he would've been world class. Better than Modric and today would be playing for either Real Madrid or FC Barcelona.

But Jose Mourinho took one of the most talented and most skillful players to ever play the game and turned him into a robotic "destroyer"


O pari

Wenger was right. we have coaches and then tacticians that guise as coaches. The tacticians get the accolades, trophies you need. The coach groom younger ones to maturity and sell to the tacticians.

OMANBALA1:



See stadium. I think I could count like three spectators in the stand. Nawaa ,we gotta do better. How do we bring people out to watch Nigerian leagues because I think that is one of the reason the standards are so poor. Your mentality will change when you see 20,000 spectators in the stand waving flags and screaming.

Connect it to their source of livelihood, the passion would appear. Organize lil tourneys for talenthunt in the community, watch fanbase grow. Its more of dedication than knowhow.

BascoVanVeli:


lol no o Enyimba I believe is the best in the league with 41K. The pages are there it is just for people to follow.

Seperation from government would help our league. run them as profit gain organizations and watch.

Icon4s:


Together we analyzed football in 2017.

We argued, quarreled, threw jabs and celebrated together.

We have learnt from each other in diverse ways.

The tonic of this thread spans from the diverse opinions and Ideologies of members of this thread.

We are all winners.

As a Team we hope to continue to contribute our quota to the development of Nigerian football this year 2018.

Well done all.

Well spoken true words

BascoVanVeli:


To put it in perspective, the Nff has 190k followers on Twitter and Zamalek has 2.4m...
We are ages behind these people.

This is at the heart of the matter, I am amazed at the degree of abandonment that local football suffers in Nigeria.

There are probably more Chelsea fans than Enyimba fans and or Enugu Rangers. The amount of support that our teams recieve is simply unacceptable.

We can not expect miracles in our football development. You get what you put in at the moment people look at local football as a stepping stone too getting too Europe, that's all.

I go into a bar in Nigeria and everyone is watching the EPL. There is almost zero paying subscription for local football in Nigeria.

Until that Changes its going to be difficult to see major improvements. As a result getting into the National team set up is pivotal to going abroad. This will impact on selection negatively as other considerations will be given greater influence.

Mickael2:



y'all are saying this based on hindsight. What is the guarantee that he would have developed properly as an attacking midfielder under Ferguson? Over the years how many world class attacking midfielders did Ferguson produce? I can only remember Scholes. I can also remember him preferring Cleverly to a lot of other better midfielders, what is the guarantee that Mikel would not be overlooked in favour of cleverly? If you ask me I am totally content with the player Mikel is right now, hypothetical he could have developed into a better player and he could have ended up a lot worse as well so we need to accept what we have

The Pogba story comes to mind.

Your reasoning is not without strong credence.

Mikel did not do enough to help himself. i dislike mikel for staying put on Chelsea's bench instead of going elsewhere.

Mickael2:



y'all are saying this based on hindsight. What is the guarantee that he would have developed properly as an attacking midfielder under Ferguson? Over the years how many world class attacking midfielders did Ferguson produce? I can only remember Scholes. I can also remember him preferring Cleverly to a lot of other better midfielders, what is the guarantee that Mikel would not be overlooked in favour of cleverly? If you ask me I am totally content with the player Mikel is right now, hypothetical he could have developed into a better player and he could have ended up a lot worse as well so we need to accept what we have

Thank you my man.I remember a very talented Angola player that was wasted by Ferguson but couldn't recalled his name,may be one Manucho.

Swedish giants Degefors sign Nigerian U17 duo


Joel Signing For Degefors

by Phumzile Ngcatshe

Thursday Jan 04, 2018. 15:30

Nigerian U17 duo Joel Daniel and Ladan Muhammed have signed for Degefors IF in Sweden.

The Swedish second tier outfit has concluded the signing of two Nigerian prospects according to media reports in Nigeria.

OwngoalNigeria reports that the duo was first spotted by the club scouts when they turned out for Jos-based Gee-Lec Academy in a tournament that had scouts from European teams in attendance.


Both Daniel and Muhammed were part of the 2017 U17 team of Nigeria and have signed three year deals, according to their agent Babawo Mohammed.


”Joel and Ladan are part of the reasons why I travelled to Sweden at the end of last year, and it has paid off now for them. Sweden is a nice place for young players to develop,” he told Owngoalnigeria.com.


”Degefors are an ambitious side despite their status as a second division team, the addition of Ladan and Joel will no doubt help their quest to qualify to play in the first division in the future.”

https://africanfootball.com/news/738535/Swedish-giants-Degefors-sign-Nigerian-U17-duo

tbaba1234:
North African votes.

Fans’ Finest XI
Goalkeeper: Aymen Mathlouthi (Tunisia & Etoile du Sahel)
Defenders: Ahmed Fathi (Egypt & Al Ahly), Eric Bailly (Cote d’Ivoire & Manchester United), Ali Maaloul (Tunisia & Al Ahly)
Midfielders: Mohamed Ounnajem (Morocco & Wydad Athletic Club), Karim El Ahmadi (Morocco & Feyenoord), Junior Ajayi (Nigeria & Al Ahly), Achraf Bencharki (Morocco & Wydad Athletic Club)
Forwards: Khalid Boutaib (Morocco & Yeni Malatyaspor), Mohamed Salah (Egypt & Liverpool), Taha Yassine Khenissi (Tunisia & Esperance)

hahaha! See African's Finest Eleven.

See something o o o. North Africans rooted for their own and here in sub-sahara Africa, an over sabi Nigerian(s) will be giving you 101 reasons why his country man(men) doesn't deserve a slot or his vote. Whose glory is it now? Ours or theirs?

To the objective analysts who analysis without emotions, to the non sentimentals, and to the critics who criticises anything Nigeria football, I need explanations on how the above named players deserve to make the list of Africa finest. What justifies their inclusion? Don't forget your facts and figures.

Cc: Mikael2, Goldfish80 etc

League: Great
National team : Not in the league of the best

BascoVanVeli:


Not enough for you to down play their pedigree.

So where is the downgrade issue coming from? Talking facts and figure here.

And the 20k is to come from where? The sky? They are all busy in view centers arguing about those who know nothing about them and when you point to our league, they look for other Nigerians to blame.

OMANBALA1:



See stadium. I think I could count like three spectators in the stand. Nawaa ,we gotta do better. How do we bring people out to watch Nigerian leagues because I think that is one of the reason the standards are so poor. Your mentality will change when you see 20,000 spectators in the stand waving flags and screaming.

AIG07:
hahaha! See African's Finest Eleven.

See something o o o. North Africans rooted for their own and here in sub-sahara Africa, an over sabi Nigerian(s) will be giving you 101 reasons why his country man(men) doesn't deserve a slot or his vote. Whose glory is it now? Ours or theirs?

To the objective analysts who analysis without emotions, to the non sentimentals, and to the critics who criticises anything Nigeria football, I need explanations on how the above named players deserve to make the list of Africa finest. What justifies their inclusion? Don't forget your facts and figures.

Cc: Mikael2, Goldfish80 etc

there is a reason why the award is called fans finest XI and not CAF's best Eleven. This was voted by fans, if not I don't know why Ndidi wouldnt be there or why Mane whose departure coincided with Liverpool''s worst form of the year was left out for Ajayi of all people

terzurum5:
Swedish giants Degefors sign Nigerian U17 duo


Joel Signing For Degefors

by Phumzile Ngcatshe

Thursday Jan 04, 2018. 15:30

Nigerian U17 duo Joel Daniel and Ladan Muhammed have signed for Degefors IF in Sweden.

The Swedish second tier outfit has concluded the signing of two Nigerian prospects according to media reports in Nigeria.

OwngoalNigeria reports that the duo was first spotted by the club scouts when they turned out for Jos-based Gee-Lec Academy in a tournament that had scouts from European teams in attendance.


Both Daniel and Muhammed were part of the 2017 U17 team of Nigeria and have signed three year deals, according to their agent Babawo Mohammed.


”Joel and Ladan are part of the reasons why I travelled to Sweden at the end of last year, and it has paid off now for them. Sweden is a nice place for young players to develop,” he told Owngoalnigeria.com.


”Degefors are an ambitious side despite their status as a second division team, the addition of Ladan and Joel will no doubt help their quest to qualify to play in the first division in the future.”

https://africanfootball.com/news/738535/Swedish-giants-Degefors-sign-Nigerian-U17-duo

Lets see how these ones turn out

Kog45:
Thank you my man.I remember a very talented Angola player that was wasted by Ferguson but couldn't recalled his name,may be one Manucho.

exactly and a lot of other top black players that were wasted by Feggie. People point the racist finger at Pep but bar Evra was there anyother black starter for Ferguson throughout his reign at Manu?

Hahahahahaha!

This award yaff cause jealousy btw Mo&Mane. Mane had to shift wings to accommodate Mo. Kop fans don't celebrate his goals like they do Mo's. No Mane in best 11 again!! Body language again at the awards....if you quote me and tell me it wasn't there ehn...isokay.

somehow:
And the 20k is to come from where? The sky? They are all busy in view centers arguing about those who know nothing about them and when you point to our league, they look for other Nigerians to blame.

My brother, you wouldn't blame those guys at the viewing centers watching the European leagues o.

We have failed to develop our own.

It takes a lot of patience and humility to even watch the NPFL in your living room not to talk of taking the pains to drive or transport your self to the match venues where your safety is not even guaranteed.

Even me as a person that still manages to once in a while have the appetite to watch the NPFL, I only watch selected matches involving the big clubs like Enyimba, Kano Pillars and Rangers. As I said it takes a lot of patience and humility to even do this in your own house.
What I mean is while some people are watching Chelsea vs ManCity elsewhere you are watching Rivers united vs Kano Pillars

Omo, you need an egg to make an omelet. How many naturally talented players (of Mikel's caliber) did Ferguson during that period? You know, we actually came to realize how poor that Man Utd team was after the departure of Sir Alex. Since his departure, 3 world class coaches have been trying to rebuild the same team ... a team that won the EPL in Ferguson's final year, mind you!

Of course, in football like in life there are no guarantees but the truth is that Mikel stood a better chance of developing under Sir Alex than under Mourinho. You know as well as I do that Jose Mourinho doesn't have the time to develop anybody ... he believes in instant gratification - aka the win today mantra. I cried blue murder when Mikel decided to chose Chelsea and I still think that it was a mistake to this day.

O pari

Mickael2:



y'all are saying this based on hindsight. What is the guarantee that he would have developed properly as an attacking midfielder under Ferguson? Over the years how many world class attacking midfielders did Ferguson produce? I can only remember Scholes. I can also remember him preferring Cleverly to a lot of other better midfielders, what is the guarantee that Mikel would not be overlooked in favour of cleverly? If you ask me I am totally content with the player Mikel is right now, hypothetical he could have developed into a better player and he could have ended up a lot worse as well so we need to accept what we have

Mickael2:



there is a reason why the award is called fans finest XI and not CAF's best Eleven. This was voted by fans, if not I don't know why Ndidi wouldnt be there or why Mane whose departure coincided with Liverpool''s worst form of the year was left out for Ajayi of all people

I knew it! That'll be the excuse you guys will be giving.

Baba, wetin be BBC Award then?

Mickael2:


exactly and a lot of other top black players that were wasted by Feggie. People point the racist finger at Pep but bar Evra was there anyother black starter for Ferguson throughout his reign at Manu?

Ermmmmm there was a twin black strike duo of Andy Cole and the other Trinidad fella (forgotten his name) also Paul Ince. These guys were over regulars.

OMANBALA1:



See stadium. I think I could count like three spectators in the stand. Nawaa ,we gotta do better. How do we bring people out to watch Nigerian leagues because I think that is one of the reason the standards are so poor. Your mentality will change when you see 20,000 spectators in the stand waving flags and screaming.

A valid question for our candid considerations Sir. I think this is another area we need to deliberate on seriously and make recommendations to the appropriate quarters.

What can we do to improve on poor spectators in our stands during matches?
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