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Re: Is Jesus God? by Nobody: 2:22pm On Jan 07, 2018
removetheturban:
So I am asking why didn't he use 'your' as opposed to 'he' that he used? If Satan believe that God and Jesus was coequal why didn't he say "your angels"?
i am also throwing same to you.. Why didn't Jesus say "i am not supposed to tempt the lord my God" why did he quote verbatim
Re: Is Jesus God? by Hairyrapunzel: 2:42pm On Jan 07, 2018
removetheturban:
hahahahaha This is the most absurd thing that you have said so far.
Can you give me further insight on this? I'm curious to know why you said that.
How does Genesis 2:7 read in your Bible?

Are you serious about what you just said?

So, you believe that you are a spirit now?
Nephesh can also mean "being."
Re: Is Jesus God? by Nobody: 2:49pm On Jan 07, 2018
removetheturban:
hahahahaha This is the most absurd thing that you have said so far.
Can you give me further insight on this? I'm curious to know why you said that.
How does Genesis 2:7 read in your Bible?

Are you serious about what you just said?

So, you believe that you are a spirit now?
First of all, man was created on the 6th day of creation, God created all man dat lived and will ever live on d 6th day of creation according to Gen1:27...

So God created humans in his own image. He created them to be like himself. He created them male and female. God blessed them and said to them, “Have many children. Fill the earth and take control of it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the air. Rule over every living thing that moves on the earth.” God said, “I am giving you all the grain bearing plants and all the fruit trees. These trees make fruit with seeds in it. This grain and fruit will be your food. And I am giving all the green plants to the animals. These green plants will be their food. Every animal on earth, every bird in the air, and all the little things that crawl on the earth will eat that food.” And all these things happened.
Genesis 1:27‭-‬30 ERV

God is a spirit, on d 6th day he created mankind in his own image.

Adam was only privileged to be the first man to be manifested. God created a body for him from the dust.. Dis was in Gen 2, long after the 7th day had past and God had concluded creation work.

God blessed the seventh day and made it a holy day. He made it special because on that day he rested from all the work he did while creating the world. This is the story about the creation of the sky and the earth. This is what happened when the Lord God made the earth and the sky. This was before there were plants on the earth. Nothing was growing in the fields because the Lord God had not yet made it rain on the earth, and there was no one to care for the plants. So water came up from the earth and spread over the ground. Then the Lord God took dust from the ground and made a man. He breathed the breath of life into the man’s nose, and the man became a living thing.
Genesis 2:3‭-‬7 ERV

D body of man was lifeless after it was formed from the dust till God gave him the breath of life.. The Hebrew word translated as breath of life is neshama. Dat is the same word in proverb 20:27 translated as the spirit of man. D real man came into the body as breath from God.
Well i wouldn't go more into dis. If u want us to discuss dis indepth, u can create a thread on it nd lets focus on d subject matter here.
Re: Is Jesus God? by Hairyrapunzel: 2:49pm On Jan 07, 2018
Removetheturban what is a superior or an inferior gender? Discuss

Discuss superior and inferior gender in marriage.
Re: Is Jesus God? by Nobody: 2:53pm On Jan 07, 2018
removetheturban:
@salvation101 he might be trying hard not to offend you. He seems to have a different name for his God that you may not agree to.
Sir, are you not proud of the name of your God?
lol. Why should get offended? At least he didn't come saying my Bible is erroneous because d man made word jehova is not there
Re: Is Jesus God? by Nobody: 2:57pm On Jan 07, 2018
removetheturban:
Going by your point, the number of vowels in Adonai is 4 while Jehovah has only 3 vowels. Why did you asert that they created Jehovah from 'AOAI'?

Do you believe in the God of Salvation101?
are u denying the fact? After i sent u a screenshot of it from Wikipedia?
Re: Is Jesus God? by Hairyrapunzel: 4:20pm On Jan 07, 2018
removetheturban:
When was the name Jesus introduced to the English language?
Continue asking. Since you want to change the discussion let me ask my own.
What is superior gender
What is inferior gender.

I heard you say something was inferior and another thing was superior.
Provide the passages that say a gender is superior to the other.

Or is it only in watchtower magazine that it is written that way?
Re: Is Jesus God? by Hairyrapunzel: 4:53pm On Jan 07, 2018
removetheturban:
Going by your point, the number of vowels in Adonai is 4 while Jehovah has only 3 vowels. Why did you asert that they created Jehovah from 'AOAI'?

Do you believe in the God of Salvation101?
We believe in one God.
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 5:42pm On Jan 07, 2018
salvation101:
undecided grin .. Its bigger than ur compression capacity man, Mohammedans worship a God dat works with solar energy, and so their understanding is very limited.. U know we don't worship the same god. D allah u worship is different from our God
Attack the message itself not me.

cheesy grin grin meaningless rants as usual . tell that to those who worship allah

Yeshua is a servant of Yahweh, Get that into your heart and dump the Trinity rubbish ( Act 3 vs 13 )
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 5:48pm On Jan 07, 2018
hadow:
here is where u are getting it wrong the divine cannot and should not be compared to the physical
You are adding what is not there in the first place, the text u alluded your beliefs to never said the three are ONE GOD . u supplied that to the text in your desperate move .

Let me show you the one God of the Apostle's . Paul of Tarsus exclaimed ' we have one God, the Father from whom everything came . '

Did he say , One God . the trinity ? grin grin grin

wake up from the Trinity delusion
Re: Is Jesus God? by Nobody: 5:50pm On Jan 07, 2018
Peacefullove:
Attack the message itself not me.

cheesy grin grin meaningless rants as usual . tell that to those who worship allah

Yeshua is a servant of Yahweh, Get that into your heart and dump the Trinity rubbish ( Act 3 vs 13 )
u r back from ur cocoon.. U Mohammedan wanna teach me the Bible? Is Allah the same as Yahweh? Can u say it out there where ur fellow Muslims are? Ur Mohammed dat usually suffered from epileptic convulsions during his lifetime told u dat? U should go and read ur hadith and Quran more..
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 5:55pm On Jan 07, 2018
salvation101:
u r back from ur cocoon.. U Mohammedan wanna teach me the Bible? Is Allah the same as Yahweh? Can u say it out there where ur fellow Muslims are? Ur Mohammed dat usually suffered from epileptic convulsions during his lifetime told u dat? U should go and read ur hadith and Quran more..
I will keep silent And allow you continue your meaningless rant , If you have problems with Mohamedians go and solve it with them okay grin

grin grin grin At least u can't fight it . your trinity is a delusion .

Yehsua is a servant of Yahweh ( Act 3 vs 13 )
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 6:04pm On Jan 07, 2018
removetheturban:
John 14:28 You heard me say to you, ‘I am leaving, but I will come back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be happy that I am going back to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am. ERV
Sense pill for Salvation101 . grin grin grin
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 6:08pm On Jan 07, 2018
salvation101:
just like you agree freeze understand d bible better u also agree a Muslim does too. In ur opinion, anyone can just pickup d bible, read nd understand.. In ur opinion the Bible is just a novel. Well am not surprised
see her small reasoning, At least Yehsua is a servant of Yahweh ... I guess a Muslim penned that Act 3 vs 13 ? grin grin
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 6:16pm On Jan 07, 2018
removetheturban:
focus on the topic. Is Jesus God?
She have to derail, Cos she has no logical argument for that topic .

chai, chai, Chai .

how much I wish you guys haven't derailed this long , You would have seen how they would be shaking cos they have been made to believe a lie
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 6:23pm On Jan 07, 2018
aigboeben:
Her denomination should not be the issue but the fact at stake
How some men start reasoning low when they notice woman sef, you don't even know if she is a man grin hiding under female monicker .

You shouting , fact at stake ... can't u see how she is evading question by trying to use the guys religion against him and also shouting mohameddian up and down , Is she ( he ) holding to the fact at stake ? She well know telling her own religion can destroy things for her which is why she keep playing games with the guy yet feel so bold to question the guys religion.


but I agree with you on one thing, Holding on to what the thread is all about.
Re: Is Jesus God? by achorladey: 6:24pm On Jan 07, 2018
If you see Jesus Christ as an authority of the scriptures, will you still argue when Jesus him said what was recorded in John 20:17. Jesus himself told us that their is a greater God that you and I should worship. Yet you see those who say they are Christ followers still arguing over what is not?
I want to ask, is the raising of Jesus status to God Almighty by Jesus himself? Is it by the 7 men in New York? Then it means those parroting the trinity doctrine and the raising of Jesus to Status Almighty God are subject to higher authority but definitely not the Jesus I know. Some are even followers of Thomas long before Jesus returned back to heaven.
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 6:28pm On Jan 07, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
Yes, Jesus is God.
Of course human beings are also GODS. , says your bible . so the Logical question is : In what sense are they Gods.

grin grin grin. Mr in what sense do you belive Jesus is God... the Supreme being ?
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 6:32pm On Jan 07, 2018
salvation101:
John 20:28 a disciple of God called Jesus "my Lord and my God".. Now tell us, is Jesus ur God? How many God's do u serve?
Yeshua said I am going to my Father and your Father, My God and Your God ?

He therefore spells it out that Yahweh is everybody's God.

Whose words is More RELIABLE, Yeshua or Thomas ? grin grin Salvation101 reply
Re: Is Jesus God? by achorladey: 6:34pm On Jan 07, 2018
Peacefullove:
How some men start reasoning low when they notice woman sef, you don't even know if she is a man grin hiding under female monicker .

You shouting , fact at stake ... can't u see how she is evading question by trying to use the guys religion against him and also shouting mohameddian up and down , Is she ( he ) holding to the fact at stake ? She well know telling her own religion can destroy things for her which is why she keep playing games with the guy yet feel so bold to question the guys religion.


but I agree with you on one thing, Holding on to what the thread is all about.
It is easy to say I belong to Jesus ministry or I believe Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. But when there are issues on major doctrines and believes you see them quoting all forms of authority. Please focus on your Jesus alone and don't attach anything to him.
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 6:36pm On Jan 07, 2018
salvation101:
Right from the day Jesus was born, wise men bowed down to worship him.. He never refused worship. Do u worship Jesus?
Is worship now a prove of Being God ?

hahahahahaha grin grin this is getting very beauriful
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 6:39pm On Jan 07, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
Yes he is Almighty God
hahahaha grin Your Almighty God still HAVE a GOD he Obeys ?
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 6:42pm On Jan 07, 2018
salvation101:
ok its about Greek now huh, no problem..

Please count how many times the word worship was used in the following verses and tell me how it reads in ur Bible..
Our fathers worshiped on this mountain. But you Jews say that Jerusalem is the place where people must worship.” Jesus said, “Believe me, woman! The time is coming when you will not have to be in Jerusalem or on this mountain to worship the Father. You Samaritans worship something you don’t understand. We Jews understand what we worship, since salvation comes from the Jews. But the time is coming when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth. In fact, that time is now here. And these are the kind of people the Father wants to be his worshipers. God is spirit. So the people who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”
John 4:20‭-‬24 ERV

The greek word translated as worship is Proskuneo.. That is the same word used in matt 2:11, matt 14:33, matt 28:8,9...
Now tell you the moral justification ur society has to manipulate that word in ur Bible? So d Jews went to mountain just to do obeisance? So God wants u to do obeisance to him in spirit and truth?
The usual dumb argument, and its the same word used at Revelation 3 vs 9 where humans are worshiped? . I guess those humans are Gods grin
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 6:47pm On Jan 07, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:
Once the word refers to Jesus it means another thing but when that same word is in reference to God it is worship. When I say your doctrines are based on lies and fallacies you will start crying persecution but it's obvious
Revelation 3 vs 9

grin What if that same word was used for humans , It means worship ? do you now accept the said humans are Almighty Gods since they accept worship ? grin grin
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 6:54pm On Jan 07, 2018
salvation101:
u r flogging a dead horse. Tell me where the greek word proskuneo appears in those verses u quoted?
see damage control grin

At least it appeared at Revelation 3 vs 9 , is it worship ? Why should humans accept worship ? Does it mean they are Almighty Gods ?
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 6:57pm On Jan 07, 2018
aigboeben:
Does it stop Jesus from being God since you have agreed God is not about name but the divine nature
Calm down, Even humans are given divine nature according to your Bible ... I guess they are Almighty Gods ?
Re: Is Jesus God? by Peacefullove: 7:12pm On Jan 07, 2018
aigboeben:
Are men to be worshipped? Are angels to be worshipped? Only God is to be worshipped. Jesus received worship as God and not man.
What do you think of John 3:34?
But humans received worship at Revelation 3 vs 9, Yes or No ?
Re: Is Jesus God? by Nobody: 7:21pm On Jan 07, 2018
Peacefullove:
I will keep silent And allow you continue your meaningless rant , If you have problems with Mohamedians go and solve it with them okay grin

grin grin grin At least u can't fight it . your trinity is a delusion .

Yehsua is a servant of Yahweh ( Act 3 vs 13 )
since u are a Mohammed who claim an angel gave him a book u call Quran why should i take u seriously
Re: Is Jesus God? by Nobody: 7:23pm On Jan 07, 2018
Peacefullove:
see her small reasoning, At least Yehsua is a servant of Yahweh ... I guess a Muslim penned that Act 3 vs 13 ? grin grin
why don't u quote the word in Act 3:13.
Re: Is Jesus God? by Nobody: 7:25pm On Jan 07, 2018
Peacefullove:
She have to derail, Cos she has no logical argument for that topic .

chai, chai, Chai .

how much I wish you guys haven't derailed this long , You would have seen how they would be shaking cos they have been made to believe a lie
we went back to the topic. I hope u read and i hope u answer all d questions he couldn't
Re: Is Jesus God? by Nobody: 7:29pm On Jan 07, 2018
Peacefullove:
Yeshua said I am going to my Father and your Father, My God and Your God ?

He therefore spells it out that Yahweh is everybody's God.

Whose words is More RELIABLE, Yeshua or Thomas ? grin grin Salvation101 reply
who understood the statement correctly? You or Thomas? Why didn't Jesus rebuke him like he rebuke Peter wen he does a wrong thing? Guess you know more than the Apostle huh?

There is a question ur friend avnt been able to answer.. Is Jesus to be worshipped or not?
Who was the lamb all creatures in heaven and on earth worshiped?
Re: Is Jesus God? by Nobody: 7:32pm On Jan 07, 2018
Peacefullove:
Is worship now a prove of Being God ?

hahahahahaha grin grin this is getting very beauriful
first things first.. U agree Jesus was worshiped?
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