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achorladey:
That is not for you to decide........ Deal with the CONTRADICTION first before concerning yourself over my worship of Jesus or not.
Note: To gain everlasting life I only need to see Jesus as Son of God (John 3:16,36 John17:3)and exercise faith in that ransom sacrifice. This, Jesus himself said while on earth.Why should I kill myself over making Jesus into someone he is not?

Peacefullove:
Jesus is not even the one on the throne, Na wa



Does worshipping the lamb prove he is Almighty God ?

If yes, Tell me why Jesus followers whom are also worshipped at Rev 3 vs 9 are not God Almighty ?

this thing is simple

Peacefullove:
You are adding what is not there in the first place, the text u alluded your beliefs to never said the three are ONE GOD . u supplied that to the text in your desperate move .

I asked u that what does the three as one constitute as

Let me show you the one God of the Apostle's . Paul of Tarsus exclaimed ' we have one God, the Father from whom everything came . '

pls show me where

Did he say , One God . the trinity ?

wake up from the Trinity delusion

Peacefullove:
Now removetheturban will be praised , Nice one . See nobody is in a competition with anyone . But am sure at this point the walls of your argument are falling and you known it .

If the commandment of God is clear, why should Jesus followers be worshipped at Revelation 3 vs 9 ?

salvation101:
really? What about the many English words wit latin and French origin?

salvation101:
wch was arrived at by mere juxtaposition of Yahweh and Adonia..

salvation101:
false.. There has been age long dispute about that name, don't give me dat pentecostal hogwash. Wen did d pentecostal movement even start? U don't av to peddle falsehood sir.

salvation101:
i take pride in Jesus just as i take pride in Jesu and Yesu,

salvation101:
in matt1:1 u will find the word lesous..

salvation101:
dis is a lie. There is no original word in Greek or Hebrew scripture dat has close pronunciation to jehova

salvation101:
Jesus is the English way of pronouncing Lesous

salvation101:
u r fighting a lost battle sir. Yahweh is the pronunciation to d ancient Hebrew word for God.. Do u want ti deny d fact dat the word jehova was gotten from juxtaposing Yahweh and adonia? A little Google search will clear ur doubt.

salvation101:
nope Jehova is not a divinely inspired word. I can always replace it with the word God wch is not also inspired

salvation101:
nice i see u did lotta research nd i hope u now believe in Wikipedia. Do not mistake it for a blog anymore

salvation101:
hehehehehehe.. So i can as well replace ur jehova with God in my Bible isn't it?

salvation101:
why don't u used to inspired word? If u deny the word yahweh do u know u deny d word jehova too? Cos ur Yehowa where ur jehova is gotten fromwas arrived at by conjoining Yahweh and adonai

salvation101:
u r still going back and forth avoiding my question. I will play the fool for now though..
Like someone said earlier, u make bogus claims built from assumptions.. Just check d word "doesn't that mean ".. U r assuming. U close ur eyes to several places in scripture dat provides you dat answer, u stick to an assumption. Wat is d product of ur assumptions according to Philippians 2?

interesting..

my answer is a rhetorical question.. Is it impossible? U see ur ideology has already placed a limitation on ur perception of God's ability.

Hairyrapunzel:
The actual name of God is
I AM, God, Father, Lord, Jesus, Lord of Hosts, Eternal one, King of kings, Lord of Lord, Almighty God, Creator of the universe, Adonai, Elohim, Ancient of days, Yaweh, yahowah, Yeshua, Yehovah, Jehovah, Chukwu, Chineke, Yesu, Jesu. The list is endless.
Unlike you I don't stick to only one name which is not even the actual name of God as the name of God. Come and beat me.

salvation101:
if i say dumb submission now u will say i insulted u.. Wen Jesus said (though shall not tempt the lord thy God.. Instead of i, who was wrong? Jesus or the scripture he quoted

salvation101:
i am also throwing same to you.. Why didn't Jesus say "i am not supposed to tempt the lord my God" why did he quote verbatim

Hairyrapunzel:
Nephesh can also mean "being."

removetheturban:
@salvation101 can you believe that Hairyrapunzel believes in Jehovah and you do not? Will you guys settle this score among yourselves?

The Bible says that Jehovah is greater than I AM
John 14:28
New Living Translation
Remember what I told you: I am going away, but I will come back to you again. If you really loved me, you would be happy that I am going to the Father, who is greater than I am.

International Standard Version
You have heard me tell you, 'I'm going away, but I'm coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would rejoice that I'm going to the Father, because[b] the Father is greater than I am. [/b]

NET Bible
You heard me say to you, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, because[b] the Father is greater than I am.[/b

Yeshua also calls Jehovah his God.

based on John 20:17 who is your God?

salvation101:
First of all, man was created on the 6th day of creation, God created all man dat lived and will ever live on d 6th day of creation according to Gen1:27...

So God created humans in his own image. He created them to be like himself. He created them male and female. God blessed them and said to them, “Have many children. Fill the earth and take control of it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the air. Rule over every living thing that moves on the earth.” God said, “I am giving you all the grain bearing plants and all the fruit trees. These trees make fruit with seeds in it. This grain and fruit will be your food. And I am giving all the green plants to the animals. These green plants will be their food. Every animal on earth, every bird in the air, and all the little things that crawl on the earth will eat that food.” And all these things happened.
Genesis 1:27‭-‬30 ERV

God is a spirit, on d 6th day he created mankind in his own image.

Adam was only privileged to be the first man to be manifested. God created a body for him from the dust.. Dis was in Gen 2, long after the 7th day had past and God had concluded creation work.

God blessed the seventh day and made it a holy day. He made it special because on that day he rested from all the work he did while creating the world. This is the story about the creation of the sky and the earth. This is what happened when the Lord God made the earth and the sky. This was before there were plants on the earth. Nothing was growing in the fields because the Lord God had not yet made it rain on the earth, and there was no one to care for the plants. So water came up from the earth and spread over the ground. Then the Lord God took dust from the ground and made a man. He breathed the breath of life into the man’s nose, and the man became a living thing.
Genesis 2:3‭-‬7 ERV

D body of man was lifeless after it was formed from the dust till God gave him the breath of life.. The Hebrew word translated as breath of life is neshama. Dat is the same word in proverb 20:27 translated as the spirit of man. D real man came into the body as breath from God.
Well i wouldn't go more into dis. If u want us to discuss dis indepth, u can create a thread on it nd lets focus on d subject matter here.

removetheturban:
Funny how you have no answer to my question.

How could Jesus have responded in such manner? That would give a room for the devil to work on him. He responded using another scripture. He could as well say do not put me to the test.

James 1:13 do you agree that God cannot be tempted by evil?

removetheturban:
Wow! We will talk more about this in another thread.

Firstly, there is nothing like Neshama in the Bible. That word is an alien word to biblical Hebrew. One thing I have come to find out is that you seem to be using the Israeli's Hebrew as opposed to the biblical Hebrew. Check that!

You are not a spirit. You are a man.

John 1:49 why did Nathaniel not call Jesus a son of God and not God?

salvation101:
says who? I av no problem with you calling Yahweh as Jehovah or God or Chukwu,But don't go about telling me that because the name is not in my bible, den my Bible is wrong( like u av been doing) wen u and i know dat it wasn't the original name in scripture. The name translated as God in the new testament is Theos and the disciples kept using the word repeatedly. The word has been existing in greek mythology long before they wrote their new testament books. Do u know the word most languages use for God has been existing long before Christianity came? In yoruba for example, the word olorun is gotten from the word olu orun wch means king of the heavens. Just like Theos means God or god.. No matter how u try to put it, these names where made by man and calling God by dat name doesn't take anything from him. The disciples called him Theos and krios and it took nothing away from his divinity. I hope my point is clearer now

salvation101:
do you believe in the word of God in Philippians 2 wch said Jesus Christ willingly made himself void and humbled himself to be a servant? If you do den it answers ur question here.

salvation101:
Iserve the same God who shared worship in the book of revelation and there was no problem between them..

salvation101:
really? He responded with scripture? Wasn't it scripture the devil quoted initially dat u are saying he should av replaced his angel with your angel?

salvation101:
of course i do agree but some ppl still go about trying to tempt God hence one of the 10 commandment was dat we mustn't try to tempt God and dat was d verse Jesus used in defense against the scheme of the devil

salvation101:
i didn't expect u would agree so easily, it is a very broad subject dat if we delve into, our discussion would take a new dimension for several days so be sure to mention me on dat thread weneva u r ready nd av created the topic anyway.

Hairyrapunzel:
We believe in one God.

Peacefullove:
Solite3 your sister just said bible contradicts .

Removetheturban, come and carry your sister please . its like this is getting too hot for her .

So bible contradicts ,? O

removetheturban:
English is a neo-language compared to other languages. Jesus is an English word. Why would you accept Jesus if you do not believe in translation?

When I told you that you will never sink with a ship I was right. You jumped out of KJV cruise when I spotted out the heresy and embarked on ERV sail. As soon as I spotted a flaw in ERV you jumped out of it and right into Yoruba Bible sail. Very soon we will delve into that Yoruba Bible and I will see how you jump out of that ship.

How did the name Yahweh come to be? Is there any biblical text in which we can find that name spelt Yahweh? Can you show me?

The whole world knows that we only have the Tetragrammaton which is YHWH and it has no vowel. Then where did ‘a’ and ‘e’ come from in the Yahweh? Who put them there? Why were they added?

You can check the history books, Ma’am. The Pope (who was considered as the apex of Christianity endorsed the name.) The Catholics and Protestants accepted it. It is right in their Bibles or books. The German Bible and French Bible had the name Jehovah. Before the rise of Pentecostalism, the name was well-accepted globally. The few scholars who refuted the name Jehovah were not very much notable not until the 19th century. They could have been brutally murdered were they in the 17th century. There were no other mainstream churches back in the days but Catholic, Protestants and the Orthodox which was another branch of Catholicism.

Isn’t that hypocrisy? You judge me for accepting Jehovah but you accept Jesus. It is a bigoted criticism of one’s faith. Are you for real? LOL you might well be thinking that the same Matthew that you claim to be drunk wrote the book of Matthew in English. Iesous is nowhere in the Greek scriptures. I thought that you claimed to have a Greek dictionary. I am bewildered now. Are you deliquescing to homophones now? Are we looking for homophonic words or the transliteration of the word? You have jumped from Iesous to Lesous and yet you only ended up in homophone LOL. My question is, when was the name Jesus introduced in the English Language? You seem to have no answer to that. All the rigmarole is to evade the torture that you put yourself in. It has not been such an easy road for you, I guess. But your effervescence in digging up the archaeological hypothesis from je ne sais quoi about the name of Jehovah was sublime. You came like you could tear down a wall with your nails. I am shocked how you have no answers to the name ‘Jesus’. Is Lesous found in any ‘Greek scripture? It is a Greek word? A homophone is not a translation.

Initially you told me that El and Elohim were the Hebrew word for God. Now You have discovered a new gold mine. Which one do I take from you, Yahweh or El/Elohim? Your Google search button must have worn out on your gadget. I do not know that and I do not find it credible because Adonia has 4 vowels. What happened to the “i” ?
And where did the “a” and “e” come from in yAhwEh? The word Yahweh is not found anywhere in the Scriptures. What we have is YHWH. When did it change to Yahweh? Who changed it? Who added the vowels? Why was it added? Answer my questions please. If you do not know the answer, why did you go about smiting Jehovah? I told you that these people did not arm you enough. You see something and you run with it without making sure. Ephesians 5:10 Keep making sure of what is acceptable to God.

You just enter your search buttons without digging deep. This is how far you have deviated from God. Your stance has no solid footing. You are running without a baton in a relay.
Going by that analogy, so is Jesus and Yahweh and all other names in the Bible that stem from Jehovah’s name. I just got a list of names from it. Often times I update some files on Wiki but there is a Pentecostal always waiting to edit my update as soon as I check out LOL.

You have done that many times by jumping from iesous to Lesous to Jesu to Yesu hahaha. You should represent Nigeria in the high jump event in the coming Olympic.
We do not refute the word Yahweh, but we go by the most widely accepted translation Jehovah. It is in concordance with many other names Jehovah-Jireh, Jehonadab, Jehoiakim etc.

removetheturban:
I answered you question. You can check it up again. I had no assumption I gave you an explanation. A comprehensive explanation.

Yes, your Bible (ERV) has a heretic rendition of John 1:18. You cannot defend that. Also in Philippians 2:7-8 your Bible inserted another heretic text. It is absolutely deceiving. You can compare it with other Bible translations. the word Begotten is missing and as someone who claims to have the Greek Bible, you cannot feign oblivion to it.

My ideology places no limit on God but it is a question that needs answer.

As recorded in the Bible it is obvious to you and me that Thomas called God.

removetheturban:
I really pity her. If she had used this her energy the proper way just like Saul, she would have had a close relationship with Jehovah. They are just using her and deceiving her.
I am sure that she has some doubts now about the teachings that she has been receiving from her pastors. They do not tally with what she has learned so far from the Bible. They might cast her out of the church is she says some things against them soon.

removetheturban:
You will delve to hit a rock. It is a very clean and plain subject. There is nothing of that sort. It is a neo-Hebrew that even the lst apostle is not familiar with

When Jesus prayed with his apostles, who did the apostles believe that they prayed to?

salvation101:
wat explanation? Did you just say dat? Coulda, shoulda, woulda seems like an explanation to you or an assumption?

u can make a comprehensive lists of the mistakes in ERV wen ur NWT is ridden with tonnes of dem beyond human imagination. Am sure you justify ur errors by wat u call errors in other translations

apparently it does. U were about telling me what God could not do

.. Nd ur guys where already calling me a disciple of Thomas cos dey knew better than he does

salvation101:
start the thread already lets sludge d word out.. I know if i go deep here now u will start yelling about rules or no rules and topic or no topic like u did wen i explained an eschatological event to you.. Start d thread and lets use the word of God to answer your questions if man is a spirit or not

removetheturban:
It was and Jesus did not refute it. Do you think that the reference to his in that scripture was directed to Jesus or to someone else?
If Jesus was God, why was he tempted. The Bible said that he was tempte Why is Jesus refered to as the son and not the father or a father?

salvation101:
wow, dat must be wat is going tru ur mind right now.. U are scared u would be disfellowshiped if u agree that Jesus is God and dat is why u evade all questions and scriptures dat points in dat direction. I understand u perfectly though

salvation101:
i know u were heading there. Why did God ask the Israelite in the law not to tempt him? Was it possible for dey to av temted him? Dis is the scripture Jesus even quoted . How does ur ideology also fit in to Heb3:9

salvation101:
i know u were heading there. Why did God ask the Israelite in the law not to tempt him? Was it possible for dey to av temted him? Dis is the scripture Jesus even quoted . How does ur ideology also fit in to Heb3:9

removetheturban:
LOL you are so itchy to jump out of this thread. It must be so hot for you in here. Relax! We have all the time.

I know how active Hairy was when he was slurring his vendetta against us. Now, he comes in like an eclipse of the moon. He cannot answer simple questions. He was busy copying and pasting from blogs.

We will get there. Just relax and we will take things one at a time.

Why did Jesus call the father HIS GOD? John 17:3

salvation101:
i know u were heading there.