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| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emmanystone: 2:33pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
yungchivvy:If you think as a Christian a take Weed, then you have got something else coming. Good News Translation 2 Corinthians 8:9 You know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ; rich as he was, he made himself poor for your sake, in order to make you rich by means of his poverty. Why did Christ exchange his riches for your poverty? |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by 400billionman: 2:35pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
luckyogor:Success is 99% hardwork and 1% talent. oyibo man said that. Hardwork naturally makes one lucky with time. Rule of 10yrs comes to mind. But if your hardwork brings in only N1,000 maximum a day, why continue in it ? Add smart work (going an extra mile) and earn N1,000,000 a day. Just extra 3 zeros. |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by musicwriter(m): 2:53pm On Jan 07, 2018*. Modified: 3:25pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
irynterri:There was never a literal rich man nor Lazarus. It's an analogy given in a very simplistic way so that even a little kid can understand the furtility of earthly possessions and wealth, which we would never carry to the other world when the so called death happens. The misinformation you all have in your churches is because Rome didn't understand what was written in the ancient books, so they took it literally, and when they hijacked Christianity they began using it to frighten people about heaven and hell in order to control their empire. Exactly what your pastors and GO's are doing today. |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by salveoP(m): 2:59pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
I think d questions should be: wat was d righteous deeds of Lazarus? Should dis parable be taken literally or does d parable have a symbolic meaning? Ur correct answers to dis questions show ur understanding of d parable... |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by koolsnoop2(m): 3:01pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
irynterri:wow.... Came across something educative today on nairaland. God bless you my sister |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emulti(m): 3:02pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
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| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Votukpa(m): 3:09pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
irynterri:A parable is a FICTITIOUS NARRATIVE meant to convey spiritual truths. All Christ's parable were fictitious narratives in that they were not historically true. He was conveying spiritual knowledge meant for those with ears to hear and with eyes to see. In other words spiritual understanding. There was never a real Lazarus, nor a real rich man. If Christ is the only one to have risen from the dead then Abraham's bosom should be a symbol for some higher spiritual item and not his actual bosom. If u check for the meaning of name Lazarus, i think the understanding will begin to come to you. The parable is about the KINGDOM of GOD and how it will be. All the parables are about the Kingdom of God and how things will be. The rich man represents the house of Israel or favorites of God. God blessed them with his laws and presence. He made them spiritually royal (delicious living and purple raiment) Lazarus (meaning needing help) represents the gentiles. God did not bless them with royalty. They didn't have his presence and blessings. They were spiritual poor and destitute, hence needing help. Spiritual neediness was their food. Their deaths represent the end of the age. Abraham represent the elect of God or the remnant of Israel chosen for the first resurrection (Revelations 14 and 20) His bosom represents rest. Abraham's bosom represents the resurrection of life of the elect. The torment represent the resurrection of judgement (Read John 5: 28 and 29; Daniel 12:4) Rich man (Isreal gets judgement for rejecting Christ) Lazarus (God blesses Lazarus for NEEDING GOD SPIRITUAL HELP or salvation) along with his elect. Hence Lazarus resting on Abraham's bosom. The brothers represent unbelievers who will reject Christ anyway. They would never believe even if Christ himself appeared to them. The chasm (huge divide) symbolizes the separation of the sheep and the goat at that time. Christ and his army is the Chasm. They will be doing the separating. Note that the rich man was unable to cross over, but could communicate with those on the other side. It will be like this then. Those being judged then will see those enjoying life with the elect and feel terrible and mourn for the Lords presence. The tip of finger in water for refreshment represent the thirst for the presence of God he once enjoyed in abundance. May the Spirit of The Most High reveal all his truths to u. Amen. |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by walosky(m): 3:17pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
Emmanystone:Terms of hard work, I have seen someone that has worked for years without having anything tangible to show for it and Someone that just started in 6months or a space of a year but was m made it to the top. Its by God's Grace! When He remembers you, you don hammer be dat. Just a contact or supply being made could change one's destiny. All we need do is just being faithful n thankful to our God |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by correctguy101(m): 3:54pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
MyFlair:My bad. I am sure you meant the Jewish God. The almighty has no business with such petty matters. |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Nobody: 4:04pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
Emmanystone:don't translate the bible to your poor understand ing bro... Y materialise the verse Why didn't u look this same verse from spiritual side Christ made him self "poor" (spiritually) for our sake - He could have ordered fire to burn those soldiers that came for him, but just for us to have that salvation (richness in union with God) he had to act like he never had that power.. Please next time you want to quote the bible use your head- all man can't be rich- even the rich pass through temptations that they fall to.. Life is just like that. What we always pray for is God's grace and protection against anything that will make us not be in his presense |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Btruth: 4:12pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
Good question? |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by slowice(m): 4:15pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
I doubt this story was about being rich without salvation because Jesus have not died but about works.... I believe Lazarus and rich man were children of God (jews). The rich man went to hell not because he was rich but because he was prideful, greedy, selfish n wicked....Truth is most wealthy people have similar characters which the lord abhors. But one can be very rich n nice. |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Academicwizman(m): 4:22pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
slowice:...and what were the good deeds of Lazarus that merited heaven? |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Kennedy767(m): 5:28pm On Jan 07, 2018*. Modified: 5:58pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
Emmanystone:lolz well said but like they say:knowledge do not have ending... some of ur points do not go well with me..let me say something strange here---there is different btw this words "DESTINY & PRAYER"... see my dear the difference btw RICH MAN & POOR MAN is there DESTINY from heaven( I.e from God) so such POOR people can never b RICH on earth no matter the HARDWORK as u think is the ROUTES to success/wealth...such people are DESTINED to poor from HEAVEN..so no matter the PRAYER u ll give to them,they ll never get rich...I repeat no PASTOR, PROPHET, PROPHETESS, POPE can pray for them to make them rich on earth coz they are POOR from heaven...in other words prayer do not CHANGE DESTINY...and also HARDWORK alone can not make some one to b a RICH PERSON rather is ur destiny from heaven.... see DJ CUPPY wen they TOUR the whole world said recently that she did not know the meaning of HUSTLING.. shey b she dey work well well?...do u know how much is in her account? .,..am not against HARDWORK o.... SECONDLY.... is not PRAYER that makes one to b Rich....Riches/wealth is from heaven that is wht most CHRISTIAN seem not not to understand & they ll keep saying God do not answer there prayer.. DOES IT MEANS PRAYER IS NOT IMPORTANT IN LIFE? no,we need prayer to fulfill our DESTINY coz destiny can b terminateD,DELAY OR destroy BY evil people (witches & wizards),,,,so wht are I mine saying now? PRAYER is for PROTECTION & GUIDIANCE....to back up my point...OK lets assume prayer Is the ROUTE to riches/wealth...by now my dear they won't av b POOR MAN on earth today,everybody would av b rich by now...the person that is destined to poor let him/her go for RITUALS self it will not yield anything too....to end this long stories...hardwork or prayer is not the ROUTES to riches/wealth and also the opposite is not the ROUTES to poverty rather it is ur DESTINY from heaven (God) that determine who u ll b on earth...please correct me if I am wrong with good back up..thanks |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by orisa37: 6:17pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
He was not a good Samaritan. |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emmanystone: 6:46pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
walosky:Lolzzz. God still enjoins hardwork. |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emmanystone: 6:49pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
Kennedy767:Pls i need scriptures for these |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by cchiagom(f): 7:52pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
Emmanystone:This makes sense |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Julivas(m): 9:30pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
Treating fellow human being as animal.
When in position to "help others", one must do it without delay. |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by irynterri(op): 10:14pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
Votukpa:thanks a whole lot for sharing, now I feel like modifying my post, may God's wisdom continue to flow through you |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Idecievedyou(m): 11:38pm On Jan 07, 2018 |
pick pin |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by slowice(m): 10:12am On Jan 08, 2018 |
Academicwizman:Like I said the both re children of God. Besides it was a parable not a real event. It's profitable that we study it as it helps us to understand the mind of God.... God wants us to be charitable towards one another, to be compassionate and loving not minding class because really we re all equal in the eye of God not minding our social/educational /economic status. |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Mechejy: 8:12pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Emmanystone:you almost hit the nail on the head but spoiled it by saying poverty is sin.So anybody who is poor like Peter, james, john who were common fishermen will go to hail. stop preaching wrong gospel too |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emmanystone: 8:50pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Mechejy:Wonderful? Peter was a poor man? What? A Man who had fishing ships was a poor man? Pls go and reread your Bible. Maybe you are looking at them from the perapective of local fisherman in the Niger Delta, or Afikpo, but no, these were men who had ships. Pls watch NATGEO and see Fisher men if you can call them poor. Pulisssssssss. |
| Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by MuttleyLaff: 11:16pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Emmanystone:My sister, don't worry about it, as I know it was an honest mistake. I think you're mistaken Don Moen for Jesus Emmanystone:I think the rich man in that parable is guilty of James 4:17 -"To him therefore who knows to do good, and does not do it, to him it is sin." I beg your indulgence sister, what is/are the purpose(s) for wealth? What do you make of Luke 6:24 - "But woe to you rich men, for you have received your comfort!"? What do you make of Matthew 23:35 - "For I was hungry, and you fed me. I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink. I was a stranger, and you invited me into your home." Emmanystone:Poverty is a state of being extremely poor but is poor or ordinary poor too, a sin? |
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Why didn't u look this same verse from spiritual side