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Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Naijaplos: 11:07am On Nov 24, 2023
There is nothing for which they can be punished, they cannot go to hell.
Infant gain heaven thru God's mercy and grace, they seem to escape hell by virtue of merit. ps 127:3, isa 65:8, rom 5:14

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by AwokenVawulence: 11:37am On Nov 24, 2023
Probably not , 1.everyone is born into sin and must first accept Jesus as his personal saviour before he can be saved.
2. If the child is male and uncircumcised he can't enter the kingdom of heaven

Modified:abeg all those were they mention me I don hear tire no vex grin

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by adeoyekay(m): 11:40am On Nov 24, 2023
This topic will be interesting

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by adeoyekay(m): 11:43am On Nov 24, 2023
Kobojunkie your attention is needed here

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by CoronaVirusPro: 11:43am On Nov 24, 2023
AwokenVawulence:
Probably not , everyone is born into sin and must first accept Jesus as his personal saviour before he can be saved

Oh! So all are going to hell?

Sigh…..

Which baked god do you people serve? A baby going to hell cos he/she never accepted Christ?

Sigh….

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Amotolongbo(f): 11:45am On Nov 24, 2023
Naijaplos:
There is nothing for which they can be punished, they cannot go to hell.
Infant gain heaven thru God's mercy and grace, they seem to escape hell by virtue of merit. ps 127:3, isa 65:8, rom 5:14
The question is where is heaven?
Does heaven exist?

All na scam

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Templee333(m): 12:11pm On Nov 24, 2023
A newborn baby has more knowledge of heaven than a pastor, bishop and a pope. Heaven isn't a place you go to when you die. Heaven is always present with you but the hatred and jealousy and all manners of vile things in your heart does not allow you to become conscious of it. Your little baby is experiencing heaven until you start corupting it's pure mind with your worldly "wisdom". Parents and grown up are stumbling blocks to newborns, closing the door of heaven before them and introducing them to suffering.

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Dtruthspeaker: 12:12pm On Nov 24, 2023
Naijaplos:
There is nothing for which they can be punished, they cannot go to hell.
Infant gain heaven thru God's mercy and grace, they seem to escape hell by virtue of merit. ps 127:3, isa 65:8, rom 5:14

Section 30 Criminal Code and God's Law called
Natural Law: a child under the age of seven is not criminally responsible for any act or omission. This means such a child is deemed to be incapable of committing a crime in the eyes of the law.

Hence, No Trial (Judgment Day) for them.

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Dtruthspeaker: 12:20pm On Nov 24, 2023
AwokenVawulence:
Probably not , everyone is born into sin and must first accept Jesus as his personal saviour before he can be saved

Wrong

Age of liability starts at 7 years which is why Natural Law says that a child under the age of seven is not criminally responsible for any act or omission which is why bandits called govt included it in their unlawful Law called Criminal code. (Whereas even that criminal code makes them criminals also)

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Dtruthspeaker: 12:27pm On Nov 24, 2023
CoronaVirusPro:


Oh! So all are going to hell?

Sigh…..

Which baked god do you people serve? A baby going to hell cos he/she never accepted Christ?

Sigh….

He misses the fact that before the carrying away to hell, first comes Trial under God's Law Stating that no person can be punished without a fair Trial, as Adam (male and female) the first lawbreakers got, which is what Judgment Day is about.

And since babies have not yet reached the age of accountability, they can not be charged and tried

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Dtruthspeaker: 12:29pm On Nov 24, 2023
Amotolongbo:
The question is where is heaven?
Does heaven exist?

All na scam

Yet when okada pass you wey you no see, you dey die troway as you don see hell finish until you get yourself kon see say you never die yet, so na curse you kon dey curse the okada man.

Dey deceive yourself. You go soon enter the hell wey dey make you die wenever you dey see am.

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Dtruthspeaker: 12:35pm On Nov 24, 2023
Templee333:
A newborn baby has more knowledge of heaven than a pastor, bishop and a pope. Heaven isn't a place you go to when you die. Heaven is always present with you but the hatred and jealousy and all manners of vile things in your heart does not allow you to become conscious of it. Your little baby is experiencing heaven until you start corupting it's pure mind with your worldly "wisdom". Parents and grown up are stumbling blocks to newborns, closing the door of heaven before them and introducing them to suffering.

Exactly.

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by AzaHub(f): 12:36pm On Nov 24, 2023
Strange question

Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Amotolongbo(f): 12:56pm On Nov 24, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Yet when okada pass you wey you no see, you dey die troway as you don see hell finish until you get yourself kon see say you never die yet, so na curse you kon dey curse the okada man.

Dey deceive yourself. You go soon enter the hell wey dey make you die wenever you dey see am.
what is it saying

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Aemmyjah(m): 3:22pm On Nov 24, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Yet when okada pass you wey you no see, you dey die troway as you don see hell finish until you get yourself kon see say you never die yet, so na curse you kon dey curse the okada man.

Dey deceive yourself. You go soon enter the hell wey dey make you die wenever you dey see am.


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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Texcyndy: 3:37pm On Nov 24, 2023
adeoyekay:
Kobojunkie your attention is needed here
Inviting junkie to come and say rubbish.

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Kobojunkie: 4:43pm On Nov 24, 2023
Naijaplos:
There is nothing for which they can be punished, they cannot go to hell.
Infant gain heaven thru God's mercy and grace, they seem to escape hell by virtue of merit. ps 127:3, isa 65:8, rom 5:14
Op, Read what Jesus Christ told you and everyone else about the Kingdom of God and how to enter into it in John 3 vs 1 - 21. Then ask yourself this simple question, " Are babies born again? ". undecided

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Kobojunkie: 4:49pm On Nov 24, 2023
AwokenVawulence:
Probably not , everyone is born into sin and must first accept Jesus as his personal saviour before he can be saved
Heaven and Hell are of the Kingdom of God and as Jesus Christ made clear in John 3 vs 1 - 21, you must first be born-again before you can gain access into the Kingdom. undecided

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by jaephoenix(m): 5:44pm On Nov 24, 2023
adeoyekay:
Kobojunkie your attention is needed here
Lol. Junkie's head is twisted and would turn this thread into a gibberish soup

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Aemmyjah(m): 6:09pm On Nov 24, 2023
jaephoenix:

Lol. Junkie's head is twisted and would turn this thread into a gibberish soup

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I really wonder what you do on religious threads

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Aemmyjah(m): 6:19pm On Nov 24, 2023
Those who go to heaven are disciples of Jesus and they will rule with God as kings and priests
Babies don't go to heaven

When babies die, they go to hades (Greek), Shoel ( Hebrew) or Hell (English) which is the common grave of mankind


Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten.
10Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.

Job 30:23
For I know that you will bring me down to death, To the house where everyone living will meet.

Let's use David's son through Bathsheba

2 Samuel 12:22, 23 KJV
And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell whether GOD will be gracious to me, that the child may live? 23 But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Kobojunkie: 6:20pm On Nov 24, 2023
Amotolongbo:
The question is where is heaven? Does heaven exist? All na scam
That answer was provided by the person of Jesus Christ, the one who is said to have brought the Kingdom of God (Heaven or Eternal Reward and Hell or Eternal Damnation) to men. Before Jesus Christ came 2000 years ago, the Kingdom of God did not exist for mankind. undecided
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Amotolongbo(f): 7:28pm On Nov 24, 2023
Kobojunkie:
That answer was provided by the person of Jesus Christ, the one who is said to have brought the Kingdom of God (Heaven or Eternal Reward and Hell or Eternal Damnation) to men. Before Jesus Christ came 2000 years ago, the Kingdom of God did not exist for mankind. undecided
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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Kobojunkie: 7:35pm On Nov 24, 2023
Amotolongbo:
lamba
This is the Truth that was declared by Jesus Christ Himself regarding the Kingdom of God which He is King and ruler of. undecided

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by FRANELCLINIC: 7:54pm On Nov 24, 2023
Let us remember these:

(1) God was going to kill Moses' child because he wasn't circumcised. It was when Zipporah hurriedly circumcised him that God's anger was tempered.

(2) A woman who had just given birth to a baby was to observe a period of uncleanness, and to give a sin offering.



Really, no one is innocent in God's eyes. Children has sin imputed into them as a condition they were born into.
Imagine that I destroyed something very antique and probably one of the last remaining of its kinds, plunging my entire household into debt and servitude to the governmentβ€”until an exact replica of what was damaged can be found and put in place of the original.
Any child born to me will automatically be born into servitude and debt, through no fault of their own though. Much the same way that some diseases are caused by genetic defects, and are passed down filial generations.

It is the same way. Every baby is an offspring of Adam and as such is a born into the condition of sin.

If a child dies before he is able to know right from wrong, what God will do is that he will view the child through the lens of the parents’ righteous/unrighteous condition. After all, all things being equal, every child is born with some personality traits inherited from each parent, and so it is prefectly reasonable to conclude that, all things being equal, a child will be like his parents not only in appearance but also in behavior.

Remember the judgment passed down in Ezekiel 9:5, 6, where Jehovah told his executioners that they should destroy every one in that bloodguilty city, including β€œlittle child.”

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Kobojunkie: 7:59pm On Nov 24, 2023
FRANELCLINIC:
β–  Let us remember these:

(1) God was going to kill Moses' child because he wasn't circumcised. It was when Zipporah hurriedly circumcised him that God's anger was tempered.

(2) A woman who had just given birth to a baby was to observe a period of uncleanness, and to give a sin offering
.
What has Hell(Eternal Damnation) or Heaven(Eternal Reward) to do with the context that was Moses? lipsrsealed
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by FRANELCLINIC: 9:05pm On Nov 24, 2023
Kobojunkie:
What has Hell(Eternal Damnation) or Heaven(Eternal Reward) to do with the context that was Moses? lipsrsealed

I posted that example of Moses, and the purification requirement in the Law, to show that all humans are by nature at enmity with God (even newborn babies are at enmity with God by nature), and so everyone has been sentenced to death from the moment of conception.
In other words, don't expect babies to go to a place of special favour because they haven't sinned. They inherited the condition of sin, and they go to the same place where all who sin go.
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Kobojunkie: 9:10pm On Nov 24, 2023
FRANELCLINIC:
β–  I posted that example of Moses, and the purification requirement in the Law, to show that all humans are by nature at enmity with God (even newborn babies are at enmity with God by nature), and so everyone has been sentenced to death from the moment of conception.
β–  In other words, don't expect babies to go to a place of special favour because they haven't sinned. They inherited the condition of sin, and they go to the same place where all who sin go
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1. While the conclusion in bold is similar for all, the purification requirement defined in even the Law of Moses applies only as far as those descended from Abraham AND Isaac AND Jacob. undecided

2. So where is this end that you say awaits them all ? undecided
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by FRANELCLINIC: 9:41pm On Nov 24, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. While the conclusion in bold is similar for all, the purification requirement defined in even the Law of Moses applies only as far as those descended from Abraham AND Isaac AND Jacob. undecided

2. So where is this end that you say awaits them all ? undecided

True, the Purification applied only as far as those descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but the Law of Moses was meant to expose us all as sinners, and the repeated sacrifices for sins instilled that sin consciousness. The Purification may not be done by us today, but isn't it STILL true that we are all sinners from the moment of conception?
Remember, Jesus' death only saves those who believe in him. Infants are too young to believe in Jesus as a genuine expression of faith, so it seems that God will judge them on the basis of their parents’ standing. This seems to harmonize with what God says, that he brings the punishment for the error of fathers upon sons in the case of those hating him, but shows mercy to the thousandth generation of those loving him.

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Kobojunkie: 10:06pm On Nov 24, 2023
FRANELCLINIC:

β–  True, the Purification applied only as far as those descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but the Law of Moses was meant to expose us all as sinners, and the repeated sacrifices for sins instilled that sin consciousness. The Purification may not be done by us today, but isn't it STILL true that we are all sinners from the moment of conception?
β–  Remember, Jesus' death only saves those who believe in him. Infants are too young to believe in Jesus as a genuine expression of faith, so it seems that God will judge them on the basis of their parents’ standing. This seems to harmonize with what God says, that he brings the punishment for the error of fathers upon sons in the case of those hating him, but shows mercy to the thousandth generation of those loving him.
1. The Law of Moses which you say defines sin applies only to those who are of the tree that is Abraham AND Isaac AND Jacob --- the Purification ritual also applied to them alone -- so, how did you come about including even those who are not of that very tree at all? lipsrsealed

β–‘ How can a person be born into sin when the person was not even born under the Law that defines said sin for only descended from Abraham AND Isaac AND Jacob?. undecided

2. God revoked that decree which He placed only on the children of Israel in Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 31. Go swore by His name that that judgement would no longer hold that instead the one who sin will die. So, what sin would a baby be judged for? undecided

Also, you forgot to clearly indicate where exactly others who sin ---those who never got born again -- end up. undecided

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Dtruthspeaker: 10:35pm On Nov 24, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Those who go to heaven are disciples of Jesus and they will rule with God as kings and priests
Babies don't go to heaven

When babies die, they go to hades (Greek), Shoel ( Hebrew) or Hell (English) which is the common grave of mankind...

Aren't they going to join the other deaders to get up from the grave?

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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Dtruthspeaker: 10:56pm On Nov 24, 2023
FRANELCLINIC:
...Really, no one is innocent in God's eyes. Children has sin imputed into them as a condition they were born into.
Imagine that I destroyed something very antique and probably one of the last remaining of its kinds, plunging my entire household into debt and servitude to the governmentβ€”until an exact replica of what was damaged can be found and put in place of the original.
Any child born to me will automatically be born into servitude and debt, through no fault of their own though. Much the same way that some diseases are caused by genetic defects, and are passed down filial generations....”

Would anyone ask your child to pay a debt?

No!

Debts are paid only by adults.

You are mixing up God's standard of purity with Judgment of guilt.

And a judgment of Guilt always follows culpability and no child can be held culpable.

So, as Christ would say, if evil us have never held a child criminally responsible up to even recognizing that God made a law that a child under 7 is not criminally responsible, how then can Good God do such an injustice?

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