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Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by dalaman: 8:22pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog: Will you keep quiet. I just showed you research from some of the most reputable polling firms that show that Israel is one of the least religious countries and you are still spewing thrash. Majority of people in Israel are NON religious. They do not believe in any Religion and do not practice any religion. Chew on that and stop sounding like a person that can no read. Those that believe in the bible are a minority in Israel today. Even you link shows you don't know what you are saying. Modern Orthodox Judaism (also Modern Orthodox or Modern Orthodoxy) is a movement within Orthodox Judaism that attempts to synthesize Jewish values and the observance of Jewish law, with the secular, modern world. It only says that mordern orthodox Judaism attempts to synthseize Jewish values with secular values. You clearly dI'd not read it. 1 Like |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by Daviddson(m): 8:24pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog:But, not taking the Bible literally is a budding stage of full-blown skepticism. Watch against that. 1 Like |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:25pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
TomHagen: I don't know anything to be too sophisticated for religion . I'm nowhere near my mentors who were/are fervent Christians . Did you see the people I mentioned in the post preceding this ? Those are excellent intellectuals whose contributions have shaped our understanding of Christian theology! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by TomHagen: 8:31pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog:Those mentors of yours did not have the internet. You do! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by dalaman: 8:31pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Daviddson: You are speaking from both sides of your mouth. People that are served with capital punishment are usually people that end other people's lives, their own life is also ended by the authorities. That is very different from torturing and burning a person with fire unended. Your God is not merciful. To be merciful means to treat people better than they deserve. Any God that sends people to hell to burn forever is not treating them better than they deserve and can NOT be said to be merciful, so it's a lie your God is NOT merciful. You have deliberately refused to answer my question. Why you burn you disobedient child in fire for days unend? 2 Likes |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:38pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
dalaman: Please read this article and understand the report and stop arguing abeg http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Gallup-Israel-one-of-least-religious-countries-398823 They made a survey and the data were drawn from people who responded to it . Are you saying that 8.5 million of Israeli-Jews responded to it ? Please tell me you are indeed joking . Excerpts from the article . Prof. Yedidia Stern, the vice president of research at IDI. Aside from those who are self-identified as either religious or secular, “the rest are traditional but not necessarily religious by self declaration,” he explained. “Eighty percent believe in God. Are they secular or religious? If we are speaking about [halachic observance], then many are not. But if you ask if they believe God [is] relevant to Israeli life and they believe in it, then Israelis are a very religious kind of country,” he said. According to Uri Regev, a Reform rabbi and head of the religious pluralism NGO Hiddush, Israel’s “religious politics and established, coercive, rabbinate are the main forces responsible for undermining Israelis’ Jewish identity.” Those who replied that they are not religious were “mostly expressing their dissociation from those who claim to represent the only authentic and binding Judaism, and from their interpretation of Judaism,” he said. Asked about the WIN/Gallup International poll, Dan Ben-David, president of the Shoresh Institution and an economist at Tel Aviv University, agreed, stating that it appeared to present “a binary distinction [i.e., yes or not religious] rather than one of degree – so maybe most people abroad believe in God, and thus consider themselves religious.” “Here, on the other hand, the religious ‘categories’ are already taken by the entire spectrum from traditional to ultra-Orthodox, so even if you believe in God but do not count yourself in one of the officially religious categories, then your tendency in Israel may be to say that you are not religious.” Here are explanations of what it means to be non-religious in Israel by Rabbis and professors . You didnt read the article and you are jumping up and down with excitement ; 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by Daviddson(m): 8:39pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog:It's alright. But never forget that the purest motivation should be the glory of God and winning over the souls of these precious ones whose mind and intellect satan is playing cards with. That aside, do you know about Ray Comfort, Ravi Zacharias, and Andy Bannister? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:44pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
tintingz: Everyone is expressing some kind of skepticism . The people who believe in the allegorical interpretation are skeptical of the literal interpretation . Many theological positions in Christianity arose through skepticism of the already existing positions . Nothing much here bro . 1 Like |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:48pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Daviddson: I fully understand that bro . Thanks a lot That aside, do you about Ray Comfort, Ravi Zacharias, and Andy Bannister? I know Ray Comfort and Ravi Zacharias but not Andy Bannister . 3 Likes |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by urahara(m): 8:52pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog: Loool Even my uncle that has been to Israel affirmed that those people no get time for bibeli 3 Likes |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:59pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
urahara: Loool My aunty that has been to Israel affirmed that those people get plenty time for bible 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by Daviddson(m): 9:00pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog:Alright. Just wanted to know. Want to send you an email. You can access your NL registered email address, right? |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by dalaman: 9:01pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog: Learn to read. This is the opinion of a professor based on a 2009 poll conducted by Israel Democracy Institute that contradicts the latest Gallop poll.Israel Democracy Institute poll in 2009 said that 80 percent of Israeli-Jews believe in God. The Gallop poll was conducted in 2016. According to Uri Regev, a Reform rabbi and head of the religious pluralism NGO Hiddush, Israel’s “religious politics and established, coercive, rabbinate are the main forces responsible for undermining Israelis’ Jewish identity.” This is a person that is just giving his OPINION of the poll. He was not part of the people that conducted the poll, he was just giving his own opinion on how he assumed people answered the questions which may or may not be true. 1 Like |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by urahara(m): 9:04pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog: Looool Chill I'm coming |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by dalaman: 9:08pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
urahara: Going to Israel is what sealed my faith and made me a full blown athiest like 4 years ago. I was astonished when I realized that the people weren't christians, they were anti christians. They hate christianity and christians (i.e the practicing Jews). Some of the people were interested in knowing why we left Africa to come and look for evidence of a Jesus that never was, that's the impression I got from those that I interacted with. They felt we should be Jews instead of christians because they had more evidence of their Jewish figures/ history than that of Jesus/ christianity to show us. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by urahara(m): 9:17pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog: Loooool They get time for bible and yet Israel is one of the most homosexual friendly nations in the world |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:23pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
dalaman: These are Rabbis and professors who actually live in Israel and understand their own people . It is rational to accept what the experts say while you are just making noise . Non-religiousity in Israel is actually different from what being non-religious means . There are official religious categories which if you are not part of in Israel , you'd be seen as non-religious Its similar with Shintoism in Japan , the adherents say that they are not religious simply because they don't see Shintoism as an organized religion . Some Confucians in China would say that are not religious because they see Confucianism as a lifestyle not a religion . Just the other day a twitter follower said that she isn't religious and when I asked if she was a deist , she said "no" that she isn't deep into religion but maintained that she is a Christian . That means the non-religious to her is someone who holds religious beliefs with less ardor than usual . Dalaman , there is no generally accepted meaning of non-religious in fact . You have no serious argument again . Pele 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:26pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
dalaman: Jesus Christ is hated by Jews . Luke 4: 24 Then He added, “Truly I tell you, no prophet is accepted in his hometown. He is also listed as a false messiah . You are not saying anything new or serious sir 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by dalaman: 9:30pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog: What are the categories? List them lets see. Its similar with Shintoism in Japan , the adherents say that they are not religious simply because they don't see Shintoism as an organized religion . Some Confucians in China would say that are not religious because they see Confucianism as a lifestyle not a religion . Classic KingEbukasBlog, jump from Judaism to shinto, to deist later to Hinduism. I saw you play that game with your christian friend by bringing reincarnation into a discussion that has nothing to do with it. He ended up by saying he hopes he understands what you are saying, he clearly doesn't, he just didn't want to drag on with it. 2 Likes |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by urahara(m): 9:30pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
dalaman: This was exactly what they told my uncle. They were even making fun of Christians. Telling my uncle that Christians were just wasting their time worshipping a mere man 1 Like |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by Nobody: 9:32pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
How can you burn someone that live a short life of 90 years maximum in hell for all eternity? |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by johnydon22(m): 9:39pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog: I see you are evolving. Evolution does not necessarily preclude design. Just a look down our history will paint a clearer. Humans designed cars and this design have evolved through the years. Evolution can also be a tool of design and not an opposite. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by johnydon22(m): 9:41pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
urahara: Everyone is evolving in ideas and judgement. New informations no matter how subtle or negative they seem at first ultimately contribute to further shape your world view. No one argues with atheists and still remains the same, the arguments will force you to rethink what you know. Execept olaadegbu though..lol 2 Likes |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by dalaman: 9:42pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
urahara: If you go to Israel and engage them you'll be shocked. Some of them don't even believe Jesus existed. They believe the Jesus stories were just fabricated stories made up by the ancient gentiles of the Roman empire. All of them believe Jesus was an impostor. Bottom line is that they are anti christians and I really do NOT know why Nigerian christians support them. They hate christians, and they HATE black people. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by johnydon22(m): 9:45pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Daviddson: So to be in faith is not to learn? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:47pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
dalaman: I don't know the categories . Its of no use to list them . The professor's explanation was clear . Admit that you were wrong Classic KingEbukasBlog, jump from Judaism to shinto, to deist later to Hinduism. I saw you play that game with your christian friend by bringing reincarnation into a discussion that has nothing to do with it. He ended up by saying he hopes he understands what you are saying, he clearly doesn't, he just didn't want to drag on with it. I'm trying to explain what it means to be non-religious to adherents of different religions . Feigning ignorance again ? He asked what would be the judgements of non-believers . And when someone reincarnates , the judgement is in form of how the person lives his next life .("Whatever you sow , you must reap" ). I called upon the President himself , who has a clear understanding of reincarnation in Christianity to explain further if need be . 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:53pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
johnydon22: Religious skepticism is open to all - Deist , Christian , Muslim , Hindu , etc . Most of my ideas were reformed because of the works of Christian intellectuals past and present which I came across . It has nothing to do with atheists (Religious skepticism has absolutely nothing to do with atheism and Atheism is not against religion ) . I just use the atheists to access how far I've come from time to time though . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by johnydon22(m): 10:00pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
KingEbukasBlog: Amen brother!!! No argument there, never said it is same as atheism 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:06pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
johnydon22: Thanks for the compliments. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:07pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
johnydon22: Exactly !! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:08pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
TomHagen: I knew about them and their contributions through the internet 2 Likes |
Re: Kingebukasblog What Are Your Views On Hell ? by johnydon22(m): 10:30pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: You welcome brother |
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