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Re: Can God Create A Rock So Heavy That He Cannot Lift It? by Nobody: 10:01pm On Jan 10, 2018
johnydon22:


Nope, the name of this exercise is the omnipotence paradox, the answered post picked a literal meaning to answer can only result in literal flaws even at that i can still juggle that literal answer to demonstrate the whole point of the exercise.

I only chose to rephrase the question so anyone who wish to answer will understand the actual meaning behind the question.

pls juggle it as you said.... can't wait
Re: Can God Create A Rock So Heavy That He Cannot Lift It? by Nobody: 3:53am On Jan 13, 2018
Everybody should ignore this thread. The op is confused. I think 'he' is a troll bot or something
Re: Can God Create A Rock So Heavy That He Cannot Lift It? by budaatum: 4:56am On Jan 13, 2018
johnydon22:


This is called the Omnipotence paradox, a nonsensical paradox that shows people the absurdity of nonsensical concepts like Omnipotence
Maybe if op read more he'd know that.

From an atheist standpoint, things that don't exist can't create anything.
Re: Can God Create A Rock So Heavy That He Cannot Lift It? by budaatum: 5:01am On Jan 13, 2018
salvation101:
r u more knowledgeable dan d examiner? D person who posted the question knew wat he wanted and made it clear here dat he meant it in d literal sense
Funny enough, he actually appears to be!

The omnipotence paradox has medieval origins, dating at least to the 12th century. It was addressed by Averroës[2] and later by Thomas Aquinas.[3] Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite (before 532) has a predecessor version of the paradox, asking whether it is possible for God to "deny himself".

The most well-known version of the omnipotence paradox is the so-called paradox of the stone: "Could God create a stone so heavy that even He could not lift it?"

Omnipotence paradox
Re: Can God Create A Rock So Heavy That He Cannot Lift It? by vaxx: 7:21am On Jan 13, 2018
Thank God this question is used mostly by the atheists, sometimes Christian also use this question to validate the existence of god creating a son greater than him.....

But this question itself is illogical, it is like asking if seun osewa can create a section that attract so much traffic on nairaland that he can't block.....


Anyway I will attempt the absurd question

Yes, this is not out of His ability. He can create an unliftable rock, but it will only be unliftable to the creation, not the Creator God; He still lift that unliftable rock though, because nothing can limit His ability.

Though it may seems like a paradox, which means "a seemingly absurd or contradictory statement or proposition which when investigated may prove to be well founded or true."(free dictionary)

Let's dive into science a little. ..
Some particles can be in two places at once, for example a photon. This seems impossible but is the case in quantum mechanics!

Likewise, God lifting an unliftable rock comes across as a paradox to us, a contradictory statement, but just like with the photon, they are well founded.
Re: Can God Create A Rock So Heavy That He Cannot Lift It? by NPComplete: 10:09am On Jan 13, 2018
vaxx:
Thank God this question is used mostly by the atheists, sometimes Christian also use this question to validate the existence of god creating a son greater than him.....

But this question itself is illogical, it is like asking if seun osewa can create a section that attract so much traffic on nairaland that he can't block.....


Anyway I will attempt the absurd question

Yes, this is not out of His ability. He can create an unliftable rock, but it will only be unliftable to the creation, not the Creator God; He still lift that unliftable rock though, because nothing can limit His ability.

Though it may seems like a paradox, which means "a seemingly absurd or contradictory statement or proposition which when investigated may prove to be well founded or true."(free dictionary)

Let's dive into science a little. ..
Some particles can be in two places at once, for example a photon. This seems impossible but is the case in quantum mechanics!

Likewise, God lifting an unliftable rock comes across as a paradox to us, a contradictory statement, but just like with the photon, they are well founded.

Where did u get that from? Certain not from any acceptable scientific consensus. I hope you are not one of those New Age quacks on Nairaland who peddle pseudoscience to further their unverifiable claims.

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Re: Can God Create A Rock So Heavy That He Cannot Lift It? by enshy: 11:09am On Jan 13, 2018
vaxx:
Thank God this question is used mostly by the atheists, sometimes Christian also use this question to validate the existence of god creating a son greater than him.....

But this question itself is illogical, it is like asking if seun osewa can create a section that attract so much traffic on nairaland that he can't block.....


Anyway I will attempt the absurd question

Yes, this is not out of His ability. He can create an unliftable rock, but it will only be unliftable to the creation, not the Creator God; He still lift that unliftable rock though, because nothing can limit His ability.

Though it may seems like a paradox, which means "a seemingly absurd or contradictory statement or proposition which when investigated may prove to be well founded or true."(free dictionary)

Let's dive into science a little. ..
Some particles can be in two places at once, for example a photon. This seems impossible but is the case in quantum mechanics!

Likewise, God lifting an unliftable rock comes across as a paradox to us, a contradictory statement, but just like with the photon, they are well founded.
I still don't know how sane minds got to this point.
How can a creator do what he can't undo? So unreasonable and illogical.
Atheists are doomed liars. They don't meet their standards of logic.
How logical is that question?
Lest we forget, atheists don't believe in a Creator, hence, the question.
God aside, can someone do what he can't undo except by the doing was by chance not by wisdom, intelligence, power, force, effect?
You did something out of reasoning, won't you undo it?
Has it not been said for ages that it's easier to build than destroy?
Shall a power be forceful enough to do and weak to undo?
What folly, madness, hatred to a loving God?
It's clear why they imagine rubbish out of vain and profane minds...
The Christians believe in God...So kill it and let go!!!!!
I believe with great assurance as by the Spirit of God that some atheists will meet Jesus this year...Amen!
God's Love never Fails!!!
cc: ferisidowu, salvation101

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Re: Can God Create A Rock So Heavy That He Cannot Lift It? by vaxx: 2:10pm On Jan 13, 2018
NPComplete:


Where did u get that from? Certain not from any acceptable scientific consensus. I hope you are not one of those New Age quacks on Nairaland who peddle pseudoscience to further their unverifiable claims.
I gave my reference, quantum mechanics..... You can read bro....give yourself the chance.... Am not new here....
Re: Can God Create A Rock So Heavy That He Cannot Lift It? by NPComplete: 2:15pm On Jan 13, 2018
vaxx:
I gave my reference, quantum mechanics..... You can read bro....give yourself the chance.... Am not new here....

Lol. You are joking right? I just keep meeting clowns here everyday. Quantum mechanics told u that an object can be in two places at once? Which quantum theory told u that? I am interested. U can't just say "quantum mechanics" and hide behind it. Explain the phenomenon. Two places at once, my ass.
Re: Can God Create A Rock So Heavy That He Cannot Lift It? by vaxx: 3:03pm On Jan 13, 2018
NPComplete posty=64161380:


Lol. You are joking right? I just keep meeting clowns here everyday. Quantum mechanics told u that an object can be in two places at once? Which quantum theory told u that? I am interested. U can't just say "quantum mechanics" and hide behind it. Explain the phenomenon. Two places at once, my ass.
update yourself...... Read as much as you can do......... This is a link to two physicist who received a noble award on the research....
At my own free time, i will explain a little bit on it but I can't explain better than these two noble winner.

You are the clown here


https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bigthink.com/dr-kakus-universe/nobel-prize-awarded-to-two-quantum-physicists&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjA0brtgtXYAhXlI8AKHRFzDdUQFjACegQIFxAA&usg=AOvVaw1YbyNsd6zPYrMGEDGtTauq
Re: Can God Create A Rock So Heavy That He Cannot Lift It? by NPComplete: 4:23pm On Jan 13, 2018
vaxx:
update yourself...... Read as much as you can do......... This is a link to two physicist who received a noble award on the research....
At my own free time, i will explain a little bit on it but I can't explain better than these two noble winner.

You are the clown here


https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bigthink.com/dr-kakus-universe/nobel-prize-awarded-to-two-quantum-physicists&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjA0brtgtXYAhXlI8AKHRFzDdUQFjACegQIFxAA&usg=AOvVaw1YbyNsd6zPYrMGEDGtTauq

I see you are talking about quantum superposition. Well I prefer the word "state" to "place". Because as far as I can remember, being in two states means the particle is behaving as a wave and not a particle.
Not necessarily that the particle is actually in two places.
Re: Can God Create A Rock So Heavy That He Cannot Lift It? by Nobody: 12:15am On Jan 15, 2018
lilbest4:
Everybody should ignore this thread. The op is confused. I think 'he' is a troll bot or something

Lol you very free
Re: Can God Create A Rock So Heavy That He Cannot Lift It? by Nobody: 1:21am On Jan 15, 2018
enshy:

I still don't know how sane minds got to this point.
How can a creator do what he can't undo? So unreasonable and illogical.
Atheists are doomed liars. They don't meet their standards of logic.
How logical is that question?
Lest we forget, atheists don't believe in a Creator, hence, the question.
God aside, can someone do what he can't undo except by the doing was by chance not by wisdom, intelligence, power, force, effect?
You did something out of reasoning, won't you undo it?
Has it not been said for ages that it's easier to build than destroy?
Shall a power be forceful enough to do and weak to undo?
What folly, madness, hatred to a loving God?
It's clear why they imagine rubbish out of vain and profane minds...
The Christians believe in God...So kill it and let go!!!!!
I believe with great assurance as by the Spirit of God that some atheists will meet Jesus this year...Amen!
God's Love never Fails!!!
cc: ferisidowu, salvation101

AMEN

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