Stephandeswardt:



Boko that saw 2 fighter gets and still advanced? The truth is that we lost the battle because of the way the soldiers reacted!!!

Sir, a good mortar section would give any bloody terr something to think about alright.

barineh:
when Nigeria is truely ready to fight this insurgency then we will. With a foreign reserves of $40b we could easily take 3$b and buy planes,helicopter's, tanks, Actually precision guided weapons. Almost 10 years down the line the military still uses Soft skinned vehicle to fight. Disgrace! They better stop the politics around this thing or call the Russians to help them .

The screeching you would hear afterwards would give your body & spirit permanent deafness

tdayof:


5 mini mortars which can be carried around would have seen bokoharam running away.


What the heck is DICON doing?

DICON? What DICON? They are making furniture

#EAF MIG-29M2 - pic in #Egyptian air base.

Stephandeswardt:



Boko that saw 2 fighter gets and still advanced? The truth is that we lost the battle because of the way the soldiers reacted!!!

Can u pls elaborate

Odunayaw:
Sir, a good mortar section would give any bloody terr something to think about alright.

Hmmnn.......?

A good mortar section.....

When BHT closed in on you less than 50 metres, flanked from different directions and AA rounds straying all around in the air.

bidexiii:



Hmmnn.......?

A good mortar section.....

When BHT closed in on you less than 50 metres, flanked from different directions and AA rounds straying all around in the air.

The only saviour that day could have been a proper IFV /AFV dusting out a huge fire power.


The issue is bokoharam had situation awareness. To me, their first target was the shilka and once it was destroyed morale went down. Not even the US SF or Russian SOS would have made a difference with MRAPS armed with just guns.


Moreover, the terrain is an open environment. There was no where to take cover.

tdayof:


The only saviour that day could have been a proper IFV /AFV dusting out a huge fire power.


The issue is bokoharam had situation awareness. To me, their first target was the shilka and once it was destroyed morale went down. Not even the US SF or Russian SOS would have made a difference with MRAPS


Moreover, the terrain is an open environment. There was no where to take cover.

The shilka and the 73mm gun....which has more potential? A single sweep from the shilka would have done a lot....the troops didnt even manouver,they just left equipment, i think the crash site was bombed by our jets....


We dont arm our mraps with gpmgs again in the north east,we use HMGs..

They should have divided the bh...into sections, distrubted weapons and men so each section can engage the section carved out


Looking at BH body language....initially they were jittery, the lack of resistance emboldened them.

Stephandeswardt:


The shilka and the 73mm gun....which has more potential? A single sweep from the shilka would have done a lot....the troops didnt even manouver,they just left equipment, i think the crash site was bombed by our jets....


We dont arm our mraps with gpmgs again in the north east,we use HMGs..

They should have divided the bh...into sections, distrubted weapons and men so each section can engage the section carved out


Looking at BH body language....initially they were jittery, the lack of resistance emboldened them.

The shilka could have wiped them from a far distance.

Here's the problem. The guys on ground do not even know what's going on around them. They only know we have approaching bokoharam. No idea of the type of weapons they field or the direction they're coming from.


Bokoharam got so close up to 50M and launched the 73mm on their position and to me, their main target was the shilka and once it was destroyed, the military had no other option.

For bokoharam to have assembled in that huge number then the guys performing ISR are missing something.

Here is it


Bokoharam will only attack villages or military post. Now, ISR should be conducted on own troops locations 20km within and then trust me you'll find these guys hideout. Don't just go flying around looking for bokoharam. You can get them in their large numbers around troops locations.

I must confess, that drone video on our troops is very depressing. All BH need is a good intel officer and they can take out ALL the troops at that position.
Truth must be told. We are simply not doing enough, even with the asset we currently have. Too many strategic failures always hand victory to BHT on a platter. A cheap 500 USD drone is being used to devastating effect by BHT while our politicians want billions and cap in hand begging for this jet and that helo.

tdayof:


The shilka could have wiped them from a far distance.

Here's the problem. The guys on ground do not even know what's going on around them. They only know we have approaching bokoharam. No idea of the type of weapons they field or the direction they're coming from.


Bokoharam got so close up to 50M and launched the 73mm on their position and to me, their main target was the shilka and once it was destroyed, the military had no other option.

For bokoharam to have assembled in that huge number then the guys performing ISR are missing something.

Here is it


Bokoharam will only attack villages or military post. Now, ISR should be conducted on own troops locations 20km within and then trust me you'll find these guys hideout. Don't just go flying around looking for bokoharam. You can get them in their large numbers around troops locations.

Bh started shooting from at least 1km away....they only used tge 73mm from about 500 to 400m......and the accuracy of that 73mm on that hilux is very bad....rate of fire is what, 2 rounds a minutes?

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The men on ground messed up....they heard boom and panicked ,they didnt want to fight, they just wanted to pick survivors and move....but am thinking also the burnt ewuipment were from another engagement.....one major reason the camo scheme on the shilka

tdayof:


The shilka could have wiped them from a far distance.

Here's the problem. The guys on ground do not even know what's going on around them. They only know we have approaching bokoharam. No idea of the type of weapons they field or the direction they're coming from.


Bokoharam got so close up to 50M and launched the 73mm on their position and to me, their main target was the shilka and once it was destroyed, the military had no other option.

For bokoharam to have assembled in that huge number then the guys performing ISR are missing something.

Here is it


Bokoharam will only attack villages or military post. Now, ISR should be conducted on own troops locations 20km within and then trust me you'll find these guys hideout. Don't just go flying around looking for bokoharam. You can get them in their large numbers around troops locations.

on a crash site where a hardware worth million of dollars. the NAF should av provided the ground troops with ISR. ?

olapluto:
I must confess, that drone video on our troops is very depressing. All BH need is a good intel officer and they can take out ALL the troops at that position.
Truth must be told. We are simply not doing enough, even with the asset we currently have. Too many strategic failures always hand victory to BHT on a platter. A cheap 500 USD drone is being used to devastating effect by BHT while our politicians want billions and cap in hand begging for this jet and that helo.

VERY DEPRSSING.....


Ewo aye mii lode.....

tdayof:


The shilka could have wiped them from a far distance.

Here's the problem. The guys on ground do not even know what's going on around them. They only know we have approaching bokoharam. No idea of the type of weapons they field or the direction they're coming from.


Bokoharam got so close up to 50M and launched the 73mm on their position and to me, their main target was the shilka and once it was destroyed, the military had no other option.

For bokoharam to have assembled in that huge number then the guys performing ISR are missing something.

Here is it


Bokoharam will only attack villages or military post. Now, ISR should be conducted on own troops locations 20km within and then trust me you'll find these guys hideout. Don't just go flying around looking for bokoharam. You can get them in their large numbers around troops locations.

Honestly reading through peoples reaction and comments...

Mortar is totally ruled out of these scenario.

you want to use mortar when you are been flankd in all directions, against moving AAG.

two options were available for ground troops to salvage this situation.

1- had it been they were the first to detect the presence of the enemy they would av taking advantage of the shilka and other powerful guns they have or use IFV to confront attacking enemy, which we don't have. The IFV has these two adavntage anyday/anytime; fire power and ammor strength. and till now BHT has not lay there hands on ATGM.

2-the presence of air assets, BHT would never attempt to advance if there are attcking aircrafts in the sky. they know it would be a bad day for them.
Even with the tin gap between ground troops and attacking enemy, hey will rather retreat and abandon there mission.

bidexiii:


on a crash site where a hardware worth million of dollars. the NAF should av provided the ground troops with ISR. ?

No, I meant something like. That definitely wasn't bokoharam strong hold. To me, the units on ground probably requested for air backup immediately they noticed movements from bokoharam. ISR was performed and then air backup was sent it but unfortunately a helicopter crashed which changed the mission.


My issue is prior to that, that's a very large number of bokoharam, they should have been detected before getting close to our own troops.

tdayof:


No, I meant something like. That definitely wasn't bokoharam strong hold. To me, the units on ground probably requested for air backup immediately they noticed movements from bokoharam. ISR was performed and then air backup was sent it but unfortunately a helicopter crashed which changed the mission.


My issue is prior to that, that's a very large number of bokoharam, they should have been detected before getting close to our own troops.

Hmmmmm ..... ?

Probably the air bombardment happened early in the day and in the afternoon BH attacked, in that way an ISR wouldn't have spotted BH advance.



Yet a lot went wrong with the mission to salvage the mi17.

Odunayaw:
Very large opportunity for pseudo operations I tell you

Sir golden opportunity for lot more things
I suggest u Google operation chanakya
Very few details exists in open source, but it will give u an idea of the possibilities

tdayof:
Nemesi4u do you think SIGINT/COMINT can help with war against terrorism.

Intercepting BHT communications. I mean masking their entire area so every single call is being and even walkie talkie communications Is being monitored?

From where I come half of the tango's r located tracked identified and eliminated becz of utilization of such resources .

They r an integral asset for COIN
In fact we have what u can call as the world's first dedicated and operationally in use LIC (low intensity conflict) EW system.

I posted about them in the technical thread previously
A pic to highlight the capabilities ,this is not the end all system, many other different systems exists both on ground air and in space operated by multiple agencies

There was a time when calls made over VoIP gave us headache only the CIA and mossad had the capability to intercept them , with some help we managed to develop the necessary technology

NA PARATROOPERS

Military hands over 244 'repentant' Boko Haram fighters to Borno state government


https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2018/1/military-hands-over-244-repentant-boko-haram-fighters-to-borno-state-government-2.html

bidexiii:
Military hands over 244 'repentant' Boko Haram fighters to Borno state government


https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2018/1/military-hands-over-244-repentant-boko-haram-fighters-to-borno-state-government-2.html

I smell a prisoner swap if this news is anything to go by.

bidexiii:



Hmmnn.......?

A good mortar section.....

When BHT closed in on you less than 50 metres, flanked from different directions and AA rounds straying all around in the air.

Toh. You chose to single out that post when i have made a chapter of questions to get what happened. Proper situation awareness would have warned any commander on the ground beforehand of the oncoming imps.
MGLs/AGLs nko, that one no dey? How many air runs would any fast jet have to take to dissuade enemies in your own words "in different directions"

Odunayaw:
Toh
MGLs nko?

NA tried MGLs, minimums and I think dumped them, perhaps ammo is too expensive per gun or maintenance costs
Personally I think they should give it another try but from a more reliable manufacture.

I know NNSBS uses them in the NE, pic 3

jakeporeshenko:

NA tried MGLs, minimums and I think dumped them, perhaps ammo is too expensive per gun or maintenance costs
Personally I think they should give it another try but from a more reliable manufacture.

Chai
Make I go sip my kunu jejely
.
Reliable wey plenty jabrata for SA

nemesis4u:


Sir golden opportunity for lot more things
I suggest u Google operation chanakya
Very few details exists in open source, but it will give u an idea of the possibilities

Read the little details I could find

Odunayaw:
Chai
Make I go sip my kunu jejely
.
Reliable wey plenty jabrata for SA

jakeporeshenko:

NA tried MGLs, minimums and I think dumped them, perhaps ammo is too expensive per gun or maintenance costs
Personally I think they should give it another try but from a more reliable manufacture.

I know NNSBS uses them in the NE, pic 3

What does it take by now for DICON to be producing ammos such as different type grenades ranging to RPG rounds by now.

nemesis4u:


From where I come half of the tango's r located tracked identified and eliminated becz of utilization of such resources .

They r an integral asset for COIN
In fact we have what u can call as the world's first dedicated and operationally in use LIC (low intensity conflict) EW system.

I posted about them in the technical thread previously
A pic to highlight the capabilities ,this is not the end all system, many other different systems exists both on ground air and in space operated by multiple agencies

There was a time when calls made over VoIP gave us headache only the CIA and mossad had the capability to intercept them , with some help we managed to develop the necessary technology

Is this the only information on that product? And plus is there any other one also in use.

I doubt bokaram uses voip. If they do, the best thing is to block the use of such service but then friendly forces will n be affected in such area.

tdayof:


Is this the only information on that product? And plus is there any other one also in use.

I doubt bokaram uses voip. If they do, the best thing is to block the use of such service but then friendly forces will n be affected in such area.

In addition to that a mobile phone running a Network Analyzer can even see the signals from the drone as these cheap ones use WiFi.

bidexiii:



What does it take by now for DICON to be producing ammos such as different type grenades ranging to RPG rounds by now.

Maybe they should try and privatize that company.

tdayof:

Maybe they should try and privatize that company.

Not a very good idea, profit before quality might become the other of the day look at every public institution that has been privatised of late.

BruncleZuma:


In addition to that a mobile phone running a Network Analyzer can even see the signals from the drone as these cheap ones use WiFi.

Yes it should. Moreover, I'm thinking about ESM ( Electronic support measure) . The technology can be deployed to cover over up to 80KM depending on how design/technology allows. area so let say 5-10 units or this are being deployed to some strategic places in the north east to cover up to 400KM in total at minimum.

The systems will be capable of analyzing Every single network that moves in the NE.
Capable of intercepting any listening to every cell calls made
Capable of intercepting any walkie talkie communications that doesn't belong to the military.

There's a guy in Nigeria that runs a security firm. He's been able to wiretap mobile phones and turn the phone microphone into a mobile listening device. He's a Nigerian and a cyber and electronic warfare expert. I met him during a symposium organized by AOC.

So I feel the following capabilities will go a very long way in dealing with bokoharam till they start communicating with paper.

As a cyber warfare specialist, his organizations will also be capable of doing some stuffs I wouldn't want to mention here.

There are solutions that can be offered to the military but only if they're willing to try it out.



Cc: nemesis4u, Odunayaw bidexii