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Eruditor:
So 20.9 is sooo far off 20.3 in ppg for 2nd and 3rd options?

Or GSW players should not make it since individuals may not have high assist numbers considering we move the ball alot?

I'm talking about Lou and Klay in that post. Not PG...

Decale:
You really need to stop quoting that guy

He only shows up when his team loses without Lonzo or when other rookies put up a bad game.

He's as plastic as it gets and doesn't deserve an attention

Bro..you no just get joy

VivaLaByke:
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,I'm milking this Jayson TomTom disaster class for a month.

Anytime he dunks,we hear "OOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGG,can't believe a 19year old can dunk like that"

The most basic thing to do in the NBA.

This is another awful big game performance from him,I don't wanna hear any "He's only 19" excuse.

Thank God the whole world saw Kuzma,without his starting point guard,is 1000000000000000>>>>>>>>> times superior.

So you're now castigating Tatum cos of just one game?

Eruditor:
I did. Before I posted. His numbers are not great compared to his previous 2 years (so I don't know where people got this talk about his great season). He had 20.9 ppg to Klay's 20.3. All his efficiencies while at it are lower than Klay's and Klay is the 3rd option on his own team.

Even I am not saying Klay's season is otherworldly, but someone who wants to make a case for Kyrie for e.g, will not use his ppg as a reason to justify his All-star spot, as even that seems slightly lower than last year. What Kyrie has going for him is his allround game and conference topping record. So why should the standard change for Klay?

Forget about his stats two years ago...This season,P.G beat Klay both offensively and defensively...whichever way you want to look at it....

aliondo:
So you're now castigating Tatum cos of just one game?

Castigate ke?

No ooo....I'm just giving back the same energy Celdïck fans give out anytime TomTom makes a layup.

Decale:
Kyrie and Klay are completely different. No other PG in the East is averaging points up to Kyrie and let's not forget his impact on the team.

PG on the other hand is having a better defensively and offensively season than Klay without looking at the stats. He makes up a whole lot of the team's offense unlike Klay. His starters make up 80% of Thunder points, which means when he's not on court, there's problem; still unlike Klay.

No how, no how wey you go twist this thing, even with all the third option talk that Klay is better than PG and Lou Williams this season. When you're 3rd option, you don't get to have more luxury than people that are the carriers of their team. Laye laye

And overall, his style of play is more enjoyable than watching Klay shoot midrange, 3 balls and bland layups in an All Star game. I will sleep...

So which other 3rd option in the whole of the NBA is averaging better than Klay?

PG is having that year and we should still not look at the stats? How many shots will KD and Curry need to miss before a 3rd option on a team will get 15ppg let alone 20 or is the standard different because it is a GSW player? That is the part that will keep me up at night.

If Thunders need PG to be relevant that means Kawhi was overhyped, no? Or both Curry and KD are dispensable since the team went on runs when either player was available (meanwhile, in those runs, I bet you Klay's numbers were better than every other 2nd option in the NBA at the time). So enlighten me again how Klay is being carried?

Or which of the whole players in the NBA will not be carried offensively (add Lou and PG) when they are 3rd wheeling KD and Curry. This different standard una dey give GSW players get as e be.

Very soon same players who do not deserve to be all-stars will be regarded as 4 hall of famers when they want to beat Lebron in another finals.

aliondo:
Forget about his stats two years ago...This season,P.G beat Klay both offensively and defensively...whichever way you want to look at it....

I asked how? Efficiency? 3pt%? 3pt made? or because one plays for OKC and the other GSW?

Eruditor:
I asked how? Efficiency? 3pt%? 3pt made? or because one plays for OKC and the other GSW?

Points per game,rebounds,assists,steals (currently leads in the nba in steals),etc..
If i want to be too thorough,i will even use the highlighted text above against Klay but i prefer players to be given fair treatment irrespective of the teams they are playing for..
Green in my own opinion is not even playing at all star level this season..Lets be honest with ourselves.

Eruditor:
Draymond and PG don't compete for all-star positions but even at that, it is not PG or Lou that would unjustify Klay's inclusion. You can bring me a worthy candidate and I would accept. Klay is a 3rd option in a team with the best record and his numbers are very decent in all ramifications. Compare his number to all other 3rd options around the NBA let us see.

Paul George is a forward/front court player, so is Draymond. Regardless of PGs versatility the latter should not make it ahead of him. That blind support I speak of at work again.

Being first second or third option doesn't matter. If that's the case compare him to Lou who started the year off as a super sub and has better stats than him.

And PS Paul George is a second/third option on a Russell Westbrook team, that's like a fifth option on any other team.

Vorkalth:
Paul George is a forward. So is Draymond. Regardless of PGs versatility the latter should not make it ahead of him. That blind support I speak of at work again.

Being first second or third option doesn't matter. If that's the case compare him to Lou who started the year off as a super sub and has better stats than him.

Stats came as a starter and primary scorer.

You are right that PG is a forward. Replying different people got me in a mix.

Like I said PG is good and having an okay season but recency bias is what is confusing a few of you. PG and his Thunders were until recently a laughing stock. I do not understand how they deserve these all star spots all of a sudden.

Eruditor:
Stats came as a starter and primary scorer.

You are right that PG is a forward. Replying different people got me in a mix.

Like I said PG is good and having an okay season but recency bias is what is confusing a few of you. PG and his Thunders were until recently a laughing stock. I do not understand how they deserve these all star spots all of a sudden.

If your argument is strongly based on team performance then there is no way klay should make the all Star team ahead of Chris Paul.

aliondo:
Points per game,rebounds,assists,steals (currently leads in the nba in steals),etc..
If i want to be too thorough,i will even use the highlighted text above against Klay but i prefer players to be given fair treatment irrespective of the teams they are playing for..
Green in my own opinion is not even playing at all star level this season..Lets be honest with ourselves.

I am not arguing for Green.

20.8 to 20.3 is huge for Klay and PG. Only that one is getting his far more efficiently than the other.

Thank you for mentioning steals. I can trade it for Klay's total 3points made with more efficiency again or no?

It is a miracle for anyone on the warriors to have high assist numbers with all that ball movement and Klay's numbers actually are higher than last year.

If Rebounds is the deal...Drummond better shoot someone.

Vorkalth:
If your argument is strongly based on team performance then there is no way klay should make the all Star team ahead of Chris Paul.

CP3 played 23 games or so. He has been injured...Dude!

Eruditor:
CP3 played 23 games or so. He has been injured...Dude!

Lol! Devin Booker, CP3, Lou, PG. Any of those two are a better pick for the all-star game than Klay and Draymond. Stop making these silly excuses or better yet just accept that you're biased.

Eruditor:
I am not arguing for Green.

20.8 to 20.3 is huge for Klay and PG. Only that one is getting his far more efficiently than the other.

Thank you for mentioning steals. I can trade it for Klay's total 3points made with more efficiency again or no?

It is a miracle for anyone on the warriors to have high assist numbers with all that ball movement and Klay's numbers actually are higher than last year.

If Rebounds is the deal...Drummond better shoot someone.

Yh..we are also making a case for Drummond too...whether the difference is 0.1,P.G is better than Klay..Dont make case for huge points difference pls and why are you making it about teams saying OKC were not doing well until recently..Anthony Davis has been in the All star team since when i can remember..if not for his great individual stats,will he make all star??When was the last time the pelicans made the playoffs?

Eruditor:
I am not arguing for Green.

20.8 to 20.3 is huge for Klay and PG. Only that one is getting his far more efficiently than the other.

Thank you for mentioning steals. I can trade it for Klay's total 3points made with more efficiency again or no?

It is a miracle for anyone on the warriors to have high assist numbers with all that ball movement and Klay's numbers actually are higher than last year.

If Rebounds is the deal...Drummond better shoot someone.

Please stop referring to last year or previous years and talking about teams and their style of play doesnt affect who is to be in the all star team...What we consider is two individuals playing and who has the better stats...

aliondo:
Yh..we are also making a case for Drummond too...whether the difference is 0.1,P.G is better than Klay..Dont make case for huge points difference pls and why are you making it about teams saying OKC were not doing well until recently..Anthony Davis has been in the All star team since when i can remember..if not for his great individual stats,will he make all star??When was the last time the pelicans made the playoffs?

Draymond ahead of PG because of team record. I guess AD, Boogie and westbrook shouldn't make the team. Maybe I should take my own advice. No point arguing with someone as biased as he is. I'm done.

A40:
The team is a mess

The Bulls are balling though! They could phuck around and sneak into the playoffs especially with Zach Lavine back

Happy newyear.
That Lavine guy is the perfect Jordan/Kobe hybrid clone.
Love the way he creates his own shot, especially off the dribble.
Currently, the only (the most) althletic-shooting guard in the league.

Vorkalth:
Being first second or third option doesn't matter. If that's the case compare him to Lou who started the year off as a super sub and has better stats than him

This is the point I'm trying to get him to see

It doesn't matter whether he's 3rd option. He's impressive with those numbers, but so is the entire Warriors roster. The main issue is that he shouldn't be there above people that are better than him just because he averages 20ppg as a third option and sits first in the league. That analogy is something light...


Na Kerr choose am abi? I understand his sentiments. Before hin go need one potential tying 3 pointer and Thompson holding the ball will now do travel and airball because of that snub. Lolz

Vorkalth:
Paul George is a forward/front court player, so is Draymond. Regardless of PGs versatility the latter should not make it ahead of him. That blind support I speak of at work again.

Being first second or third option doesn't matter. If that's the case compare him to Lou who started the year off as a super sub and has better stats than him.

And PS Paul George is a second/third option on a Russell Westbrook team, that's like a fifth option on any other team.

Paul George is a first option on offence for OKC.

nairamaniac:
Paul George is a first option on offence for OKC.

What??

Yeah. Seems I don't have my temper under control like I thought cause I'm fuming right now. I'm going back to anger management. Better yet try to find a way to never come back, this place just brings the worst out of me. Peace!

Donlittle:

Lmao
That guy is such a fuckböy

Decale:
Lmao

That guy is such a fuckböy

I now see why you said i should stop appeasing him to come back..thought everyone was just giving their opinions including eruditor who i feel is wrong on this one..

What??

Russell is doing More on every thing else for triple doubles.
But I think for scoring, game had been going thru pg on the average, with both of them on the floor.

All the same, I would pick klay over pg for my reserve allstar team.

PG is definitely the better all round player. But klay is more efficient.
He's not just a shooter. Has good Penetration too and tidy on defence.

VivaLaByke:
Castigate ke?

No ooo....I'm just giving back the same energy Celdïck fans give out anytime TomTom makes a layup.

Na Roland go face you for this one..

Decale:
Lmao

That guy is such a fuckböy

immediately he came back, I was going to wait for few days to see his next outbursts. My man couldn't even control his emotions for 3 hours. Talking about I just got out of anger management class

Decale:
This is the point I'm trying to get him to see

It doesn't matter whether he's 3rd option. He's impressive with those numbers, but so is the entire Warriors roster. The main issue is that he shouldn't be there above people that are better than him just because he averages 20ppg as a third option and sits first in the league. That analogy is something light...


Na Kerr choose am abi? I understand his sentiments. Before hin go need one potential tying 3 pointer and Thompson holding the ball will now do travel and airball because of that snub. Lolz

I have maintained that Klay has been inconsistent this season but the same argument can be made for P.G. I am actually respecting your opinion because you are a neutral in this.

If you feel he has been less impressive because he is being carried on a great warriors roster, that argument may bear some merit. But the one that would not fly even when placed on a soaring Boeing is the one for P.G. Their numbers are the same and yet one is less efficient. Then P.G should be competing with KD and Draymond (depending on what category he made the team on) but as for Klay with the role that he plays for GSW as 3rd wheeler, PG does not deserve it more than him - recency bias aside.

aliondo:
Yh..we are also making a case for Drummond too...whether the difference is 0.1,P.G is better than Klay..Dont make case for huge points difference pls and why are you making it about teams saying OKC were not doing well until recently..Anthony Davis has been in the All star team since when i can remember..if not for his great individual stats,will he make all star??When was the last time the pelicans made the playoffs?

There is no statistical variance between 20.8 and 20.3 especially when efficiency and Klay effectively touching the ball less than PG comes into play. You want to make an argument for PG, then find something cogent to hold unto. Even his numbers renounce this all-star claim you are making for him against Klay which is even funny when we consider - when season began and for 10- 15 games into it - the consensus was that PG had regressed playing with Russell. Now all of a sudden, he is Lebron reincarnate.

Nah, man.

Eruditor:
There is no statistical variance between 20.8 and 20.3 especially when efficiency and Klay effectively touching the ball less than PG comes into play. You want to make an argument for PG, then find something cogent to hold unto. Even his numbers renounce this all-star claim you are making for him against Klay which is even funny when we consider - when season began and for 10- 15 games into it - the consensus was that PG had regressed playing with Russell. Now all of a sudden, he is Lebron reincarnate.

Nah, man.

Please stop making this arguements about team and team mates...i gave you an example of Anthony Davis...who was Anthony Davis playing with before Boogie came.
Talking about his team,when was the last time they made playoffs?
No matter the grammar you use,20.8 will always be greater than 20.3.
Its only efficiency and 3 point percentage you've been making a case for and yet a Lou Williams did not make the team?

aliondo:
Please stop making this arguements about team and team mates...i gave you an example of Anthony Davis...who was Anthony Davis playing with before Boogie came.
Talking about his team,when was the last time they made playoffs?
No matter the grammar you use,20.8 will always be greater than 20.3.
Its only efficiency and 3 point percentage you've been making a case for and yet a Lou Williams did not make the team?

Stats in question here is between their numbers not the teams. 20.8 statistically is not bigger than 20.3 if the latter needs fewer shots to get his.

Anthony Davis is the best or amongst the best at what he does. We can justify his place compared to other Centres in the west but sadly cannot do so for P.G. And I like PG BTW.

Lou is not more efficient than Klay in 3pts, if that is what you are alluding to. Lou is on 40% with far less 3s made than Klay who is on 45% and has made more.