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nairamaniac:
Happy newyear.
That Lavine guy is the perfect Jordan/Kobe hybrid clone.
Love the way he creates his own shot, especially off the dribble.
Currently, the only (the most) althletic-shooting guard in the league.

Same to you bro. I don't know about Jordan and Kobe hybrid but dude has maaad hops! He's really impressed on his return from that horrible ACL tear. The Bulls are a very exciting team to look out for in the future

I think someone needs to call KD to order. Is he the new Draymond Green? This is his 4th ejection. Needs to really calm down.

As for PG and Klay Thompson. I must say neither has impressed, even if we argued about Klay's legitimacy I don't feel PG deserved to replace him either. Hell I'd pick Devin Booker ahead of either.

The koko however for me would be in the Finals where the general public (especially Bronsexuals) who don't believe Draymond and Klay deserve to be all-stars would still claim he had to beat 4 all-stars..

Shout out to Bron on 30K. Love or hate him its not a moi-moi achievement. Long live The Queen

Eruditor:
Stats in question here is between their numbers not the teams. 20.8 statistically is not bigger than 20.3 if the latter needs fewer shots to get his.

Anthony Davis is the best or amongst the best at what he does. We can justify his place compared to other Centres in the west but sadly cannot do so for P.G. And I like PG BTW.

Lou is not more efficient than Klay in 3pts, if that is what you are alluding to. Lou is on 40% with far less 3s made than Klay who is on 45% and has made more.

I just even checked the efficiency you're arguing about and P.G has a higher efficiency rating...So the only stat Klay has over P.G is 3 point shooting percentage and you're telling me klay deserves a spot over P.G?

aliondo:
I just even checked the efficiency you're arguing about and P.G has a higher efficiency rating...So the only stat Klay has over P.G is 3 point shooting percentage and you're telling me klay deserves a spot over P.G?

Bro, I am not referring to PER but efficiencies in the shooting. Klay's percenatges are better which means he makes less mistakes. For e.g if PG has 42% shooting in the 3-pt range and has made 136 it means he has missed 186 of them. Klay on the other hand has made 154 and has missed almost same 189. So as you can see, Klay has shot more and still made more than PG at a higher percentage.

Ben Simmons wants to use us and shine today.

Lol

Eruditor:
Bro, I am not referring to PER but efficiencies in the shooting. Klay's percenatges are better which means he makes less mistakes. For e.g if PG has 42% shooting in the 3-pt range and has made 136 it means he has missed 186 of them. Klay on the other hand has made 154 and has missed almost same 189. So as you can see, Klay has shot more and still made more than PG at a higher percentage.

This is the only stat klay has over p.g..which is 3point percentage...does this now justify why he should have a spot over p.g?what happened to the other stats like P.P.G,Rebounds,assists,steals and even P.E.R ?etc.

Drummond really taking this All-star snub personal

aliondo:
This is the only stat klay has over p.g..which is 3point percentage...does this now justify why he should have a spot over p.g?what happened to the other stats like P.P.G,Rebounds,assists,steals and even P.E.R ?etc.

Oga, even the NBA does not fully understand how PERs are calculated. Players who tend to be ball dominant usually have high PERs. PERs for players who don't have blocks and steals will be low. PERs also favor players who play more against the 2nd unit of opposing teams. I have said it here before; I barely attach anything to PERs TBH.

aliondo:
This is the only stat klay has over p.g..which is 3point percentage...does this now justify why he should have a spot over p.g?what happened to the other stats like P.P.G,Rebounds,assists,steals and even P.E.R ?etc.

seriously I was shocked dat p.g wasn't selected BT I felt dat instead of klay selection,I would have put Lou Williams ahead of Klay...

A40:
Drummond really taking this All-star snub personal

Do I need to remind you Nadal fans to pay homage to the Swiss god and GOAT of tennis this year?

Nice to have you back.

Our transition defense has deteriorated over the last 7 games and its evident today again.

Celtics fans are one of the best travelers in the NBA. You would think we were playing at home at the Staples Center.

Lmaooooooo....Simmons went to work.

Anyways.


I'm looking forward to this.

Roland17:
Do I need to remind you Nadal fans to pay homage to the Swiss god and GOAT of tennis this year?

Nice to have you back.

Because of injury?

Tell your boy not to run when French open comes knocking...

DeAaron Mouse didn't even make the RisingStars lineup.


That's okay though...just happy now that the NBA and all of its fans now see him for what he actually is.....ARisingBust.

A40:
Same to you bro. I don't know about Jordan and Kobe hybrid but dude has maaad hops! He's really impressed on his return from that horrible ACL tear. The Bulls are a very exciting team to look out for in the future

Give urself time, u would know he's an hybrid of both.

Eruditor:
Oga, even the NBA does not fully understand how PERs are calculated. Players who tend to be ball dominant usually have high PERs. PERs for players who don't have blocks and steals will be low. PERs also favor players who play more against the 2nd unit of opposing teams. I have said it here before; I barely attach anything to PERs TBH.

Now that it is P.G's turn where his stats are speaking for him,NBA suddenly dont know how to calculate PER..No problem,we are watching.

The Coaches picked the reserves not Fans, not Warriors fans. Klay, Draymond, Lou, CP3, PG13 are all star worthy and it makes for a good argument but the coaches did what they did. Should've stayed in the East if you're gonna be pressed you didn't make the All Star.. Ask Lillard what it feels like to be constantly snubbed because of talent flood in the West..



Welcome to the Western Conference..

aliondo:
Now that it is P.G's turn where his stats are speaking for him,NBA suddenly dont know how to calculate PER..No problem,we are watching.

I have made this argument in the past when someone was trying to use PER to make Eric Gordon better than Steph at a point early last season.

You are defending your player because you feel he deserves it. That is fine. I have defended my player because I feel that PG or Lou were not worthy enough to have replaced him.

Your argument about ppg will not really work when one is the 3rd option in his team and sits out large swaths of 4th quarters due to blowout wins than someone else who does not.

Your argument about assists will not also work because GSWs dominant ball-moving style will not allow many players rack up assists. Besides, Klay is a catch and shoot player. How many assists did Ray Allen or Reggie Miller have?

Your argument about rebounds is neither here nor there. It is the same way people made fake rebounds a big deal for Russell last year to have an almost sub 500 team's player the MVP - something that still feels preposterous today. PG will have more rebounds than Klay for eternity because that is not what is expected of Klay.

In the category that Klay plays in, no other SG is more precise and efficient than him. Harden is still not an SG in my eyes and he surely is not an efficient scorer, he draws a lot of fouls to shoot FTs and takes high volume number of 3s. So that should count for Klay.

Has he been inconsistent this season? Yes. But that same argument can be made for PG as well. PG was not playing well till mid December or so. He will not use 1 month plus to become an All star in a stacked West. Lai lai.

Russell called him top 2 SF? So who is he better than KD? Kawhi? Lebron? LOL. Give me a break bro.

PG left the pacers and Victor Oladipo became an Allstar in the same team he left while PG has come to realize what it is to play in the West. He should just take it, he is a good player but Allstar will not be based on one month performances. Same argument I made against Lou Williams.

Lillard was preferred by the coaches over CP3 for the same reason: you can't play 24 games in a 48 game season, post great numbers and be an all-star, when men have played 40 some games to post almost same numbers as you. It does not work that way.

In fact, the only fracas about PG not making the All-star list is on OKC fan threads, GSW-haters column and Nairaland. I watched most of the NBA talk shows after our chat and many don't share your opinion. See below for example:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJXODrWUd4

Eruditor:
I have made this argument in the past when someone was trying to use PER to make Eric Gordon better than Steph at a point early last season.

You are defending your player because you feel he deserves it. That is fine. I have defended my player because I feel that PG or Lou were not worthy enough to have replaced him.

Your argument about ppg will not really work when one is the 3rd option in his team and sits out large swaths of 4th quarters due to blowout wins than someone else who does not.

Your argument about assists will not also work because GSWs dominant ball-moving style will not allow many players rack up assists. Besides, Klay is a catch and shoot player. How many assists did Ray Allen or Reggie Miller have?

Your argument about rebounds is neither here nor there. It is the same way people made fake rebounds a big deal for Russell last year to have an almost sub 500 team's player the MVP - something that still feels preposterous today. PG will have more rebounds than Klay for eternity because that is not what is expected of Klay.

In the category that Klay plays in, no other SG is more precise and efficient than him. Harden is still not an SG in my eyes and he surely is not an efficient scorer, he draws a lot of fouls to shoot FTs and takes high volume number of 3s. So that should count for Klay.

Has he been inconsistent this season? Yes. But that same argument can be made for PG as well. PG was not playing well till mid December or so. He will not use 1 month plus to become an All star in a stacked West. Lai lai.

Russell called him top 2 SF? So who is he better than KD? Kawhi? Lebron? LOL. Give me a break bro.

PG left the pacers and Victor Oladipo became an Allstar in the same team he left while PG has come to realize what it is to play in the West. He should just take it, he is a good player but Allstar will not be based on one month performances. Same argument I made against Lou Williams.

Lillard was preferred by the coaches over CP3 for the same reason: you can't play 24 games in a 48 game season, post great numbers and be an all-star, when men have played 40 some games to post almost same numbers as you. It does not work that way.

In fact, the only fracas about PG not making the All-star list is on OKC fan threads, GSW-haters column and Nairaland. I watched most of the NBA talk shows after our chat and many don't share your opinion. See below for example:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJXODrWUd4

I am not making this argument cos PG is in OKC but once again stats dont lie..no matter how you twist it..
The same video you posted,95% of people that commented on the video in the review section disagreed with the video,so at least i am not the only person seeing what i am seeing but at the end,"it is what it is"#paulgeorge'svoice

aliondo:
I am not making this argument cos PG is in OKC but once again stats dont lie..no matter how you twist it..
The same video you posted,95% of people that commented on the video in the review section disagreed with the video,so at least i am not the only person seeing what i am seeing but at the end,"it is what it is"#paulgeorge'svoice

The stats can lie. The stats lie in PERs. Do you know Bruce Bowen? He used to have PERs of 9 sometimes 7 yet he could guard the phuck out of anyone.

I am happy you said 95% of the commenters. They are going to be OKC fans as the caption and thumbnail is a clickbait for them. So you are effectively making my argument for me.

The experts on the show and the NBA coaches who know more than us both did not agree with you or the commenters and that is also fine with me.

Decale:
Because of injury?

Tell your boy not to run when French open comes knocking...

"The best ability is availability"

I would credit Nadal for his prowess on clay and having the better head to head against the GOAT, however, Nadal has not defeated the Swiss god since the Australian Open in 2014. The Swiss god is probably in his 80's now and still dominating the ATP. The ATP should just respect themselves and accord him the number 1 after the Australian open.

Eruditor:
The stats can lie. The stats lie in PERs. Do you know Bruce Bowen? He used to have PERs of 9 sometimes 7 yet he could guard the phuck out of anyone.

I am happy you said 95% of the commenters. They are going to be OKC fans as the caption and thumbnail is a clickbait for them. So you are effectively making my argument for me.

The experts on the show and the NBA coaches who know more than us both did not agree with you or the commenters and that is also fine with me.

Ok...i have heard..the day i put up a video of the so called analysts and experts not speaking in favour of the warriors..Hope you wont dispute them?

Eruditor:
Stats came as a starter and primary scorer.

You are right that PG is a forward. Replying different people got me in a mix.

Like I said PG is good and having an okay season but recency bias is what is confusing a few of you. PG and his Thunders were until recently a laughing stock. I do not understand how they deserve these all star spots all of a sudden.

Exactly my point, PG and thunder have fooled around more than 70% of the season thus far.

Same reason Westbrook didn't make it as a starter, cause more than 5 guards in the league have been more consistent/efficient this season.

Klay Thomson in the warriors is like a Reggie Miller or Allen Houston(of the then new York Knicks). Or mitch ritchmond (kings) being trapped into 3rd options at their primes.

And those were elite scorers that led their teams for several years.

PG in this thunder team should be scoring much more, considering west Brook is left selfish than he used to be (on the average) and he's seen a particular stat(triple double) he can adhere to.

Well, I may be wrong in all of these, but wouldn't mind learning.

Roland17:
"The best ability is availability"

I would credit Nadal for his prowess on clay and having the better head to head against the GOAT, however, Nadal has not defeated the Swiss god since the Australian Open in 2014. The Swiss god is probably in his 80's now and still dominating the ATP. The ATP should just respect themselves and accord him the number 1 after the Australian open.

"We see the best with our eyes not on paper"

Yes, I just made that up

Nadal is the only true number one. 16 titles alongside unlimited injuries is worthy of a GOAT.

We wee not take it!!!!

Decale:
"We see the best with our eyes not on paper"

Yes, I just made that up

Nadal is the only true number one. 16 titles alongside unlimited injuries is worthy of a GOAT.

We wee not take it!!!!

Please play the attached YouTube video to know how i feel...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAD7L_GWkb0

nairamaniac:
Exactly my point, PG and thunder have fooled around more than 70% of the season thus far.

Same reason Westbrook didn't make it as a starter, cause more than 5 guards in the league have been more consistent/efficient this season.

Klay Thomson in the warriors is like a Reggie Miller or Allen Houston(of the then new York Knicks). Or mitch ritchmond (kings) being trapped into 3rd options at their primes.

And those were elite scorers that led their teams for several years.

PG in this thunder team should be scoring much more, considering west Brook is left selfish than he used to be (on the average) and he's seen a particular stat(triple double) he can adhere to.

Well, I may be wrong in all of these, but wouldn't mind learning

Lol. You're wrong in all of these...


PG and Thunder didn't fool around 70% of the season. It takes time for a team to adjust and they did that. They've had one of the best records since that happened and that's since December 1st.

Westbrook didn't make it a starter cos more guards are better. Lol. Curry is the only west PG better than him this season. He didn't start cos the fans voted two backcourt players that were better and more popular i.e. Curry and Harden.

Klay Thompson may play like Reggie Miller in your own opinion but definitely doesn't have the same type of role Miller did. Please!!!

Westbrook didn't become less selfish. If he did, he'd share the ball more and not still take the most shots, right? Well, no. His assists/secondary assists are down and still takes more shots than everybody. The only significant thing this year is his reduced usage rate cos of the inclusion of Melo and PG. Even at that, He has the 2nd highest usage rate in the NBA. How the hell would PG score "much more"?

That's how you said PG is the main scorer but Westbrook takes the most shots in the NBA. Take ya time...

Cheers

nairamaniac:
Give urself time, u would know he's an hybrid of both.

Okay oo. I dey wonder if na the Zach Lavine wey dey taka with Aaron Gordon for dunk contest abi na another Zach Lavine

Roland17:
Do I need to remind you Nadal fans to pay homage to the Swiss god and GOAT of tennis this year?

Nice to have you back.

We go still discover Federer juju man. One day na one day. Him and Tom Brady

I dey baba. Na just other engagements dey occupy me heavily nowadays.

E be like una plant IT4 to go infiltrate and sow seeds of confusion in the land of the Philistines. With every passing day Ainge is looking like a genius for making that trade for Kyrie and offloading IT

Haha the gulf in class between Team Lebron and Team Steph is just not fair. Abeg is it that Lebron selected his players first and they just dashed Steph the rest?

Lmao. Team LeBron go crush that other team...

Steph will be a horrible GM...

Decale:
Lmao. Team LeBron go crush that other team...

Steph will be a horrible GM...

You can tell he really took his time to plan this.

For curry I think team commitments and rivalries trapped for example he can't pick Boogie and for his reserves he has to pick the donkey and klay.

Eruditor:
I have made this argument in the past when someone was trying to use PER to make Eric Gordon better than Steph at a point early last season.

You are defending your player because you feel he deserves it. That is fine. I have defended my player because I feel that PG or Lou were not worthy enough to have replaced him.

Your argument about ppg will not really work when one is the 3rd option in his team and sits out large swaths of 4th quarters due to blowout wins than someone else who does not.

Your argument about assists will not also work because GSWs dominant ball-moving style will not allow many players rack up assists. Besides, Klay is a catch and shoot player. How many assists did Ray Allen or Reggie Miller have?

Your argument about rebounds is neither here nor there. It is the same way people made fake rebounds a big deal for Russell last year to have an almost sub 500 team's player the MVP - something that still feels preposterous today. PG will have more rebounds than Klay for eternity because that is not what is expected of Klay.

In the category that Klay plays in, no other SG is more precise and efficient than him. Harden is still not an SG in my eyes and he surely is not an efficient scorer, he draws a lot of fouls to shoot FTs and takes high volume number of 3s. So that should count for Klay.

Has he been inconsistent this season? Yes. But that same argument can be made for PG as well. PG was not playing well till mid December or so. He will not use 1 month plus to become an All star in a stacked West. Lai lai.

Russell called him top 2 SF? So who is he better than KD? Kawhi? Lebron? LOL. Give me a break bro.

PG left the pacers and Victor Oladipo became an Allstar in the same team he left while PG has come to realize what it is to play in the West. He should just take it, he is a good player but Allstar will not be based on one month performances. Same argument I made against Lou Williams.

Lillard was preferred by the coaches over CP3 for the same reason: you can't play 24 games in a 48 game season, post great numbers and be an all-star, when men have played 40 some games to post almost same numbers as you. It does not work that way.

In fact, the only fracas about PG not making the All-star list is on OKC fan threads, GSW-haters column and Nairaland. I watched most of the NBA talk shows after our chat and many don't share your opinion. See below for example:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJXODrWUd4

When a warriors fan is using Shannon sharpe as a reference you know he's desperate.

NBA analysts I see just like Hollywood actors. Their actions and opinions aren't to scrutinize the NBA but to attract as many viewers as possible with their persona.

Just my two cents on the issue anyway.