₦airaland Forum

ycat:
@ Op,

Haha! You already know what the problem is but just don't want to say it. Just say it! You envy Yoruba, yes you do! Yoruba is always who you wish you are but can't be, FACT! You want to be the Jews of Africa but anywhere you turn, you find Yoruba have been there and it kills you. Forget it, we can never get along cos we are too different.

You ibos just started wearing Yoruba's style Agbada, Buba and Sokoto, all you had was six pockets shirts over wrapper with winter hat or beret for men and almost the same for women, none is indigenous to Africa except the wrapper. So can you see how you burrow others fashion? Yoruba have always have the same fashion. So you don't have fashion of your own anyone can copy.

Ahmad658:
Mind what you are saying...........

ycat:
@ Op,

Haha! You already know what the problem is but just don't want to say it. Just say it! You envy Yoruba, yes you do! Yoruba is always who you wish you are but can't be, FACT! You want to be the Jews of Africa but anywhere you turn, you find Yoruba have been there and it kills you. Forget it, we can never get along cos we are too different.

You ibos just started wearing Yoruba's style Agbada, Buba and Sokoto, all you had was six pockets shirts over wrapper with winter hat or beret for men and almost the same for women, none is indigenous to Africa except the wrapper. So can you see how you burrow others fashion? Yoruba have always have the same fashion. So you don't have fashion of your own anyone can copy.

STAMOS:
Northern Nigeria is united and dominated by the largest group which is Hausa/Fulani. Hausa Fulani influence overwhelms the smaller tribes of the north - Hausa covers the North.Hausa is the face of the North . Islamic religion which is the dominant religion encourages sodality than Christianity.

Southern Dynamics : Igbo and Yoruba have almost the same population size. No southern group is dominant enough to cover entire South. Even if Nigeria is divided into north ,west and east. Hausa has dominance over north, Yoruba has dominance over west. Igbo has no dominance over East(including the southern geographical area) .
Christianity doesn't encourage sodality.

Thesis : Southern Nigerian unification is unrealistic and impractical

ycat:
@ Op,

Haha! You already know what the problem is but just don't want to say it. Just say it! You envy Yoruba, yes you do! Yoruba is always who you wish you are but can't be, FACT! You want to be the Jews of Africa but anywhere you turn, you find Yoruba have been there and it kills you. Forget it, we can never get along cos we are too different.

You ibos just started wearing Yoruba's style Agbada, Buba and Sokoto, all you had was six pockets shirts over wrapper with winter hat or beret for men and almost the same for women, none is indigenous to Africa except the wrapper. So can you see how you burrow others fashion? Yoruba have always have the same fashion. So you don't have fashion of your own anyone can copy.

weownlagos:
We don't hate yorubas. If we do we won't be buying up the entire West.

Masterclass32:
My own is: the hand shake across the Niger was a waste of time. Until we shake hands with our God and reconcile with Him, whether we shake hands across the Niger, or behind the Niger or in the Niger itself, wouldn't make much difference.

Alariwo2:
Yorubas are better by far..

That's all I can say

Neatboy:
What is it that you don't understand? I was asking how we can work together better, and not who is better. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. But a good heart focuses more on the people's strength and less on their weaknesses.

Alariwo2:
Ask Ndigbo why they made GEJ marginalize Yorubas thinking they could work with North and build several almajiri schools there.

Then you'll have your answer.
Igbos have always embraced North over other Southerners.
Yorubas have now realized that what is good for Igbos is also good for everyone. Hence, the alliance with North.

Igbos should get used to the change and stop complaining.

Neatboy:
Please, I was really thinking about the East and West dichotomy and I began to wonder. The striking question is: is there really a dichotomy?

IN MARRIAGE
No other ethnic group in Nigeria gets married to the Igbos than the Yorubas. And among the major ethnic groups, the Igbos get married more to the Yorubas than any other. Then why the so much hate speech? Or, are these two major groups just being hypocritical?

IN ENTERTAINMENT
In entertainment (movie production and music) This two ethnic groups can not do without each other. It is so glaring. This is so clear in the movie-- Wedding Party. Even in Music you will find artists from both divide doing things together like twins. They make money together, commit crimes together, and do all sorts of things together, then I kept wondering what is left.


FASHION AND CULTURE
I have seen both ethnic groups copying from each other countless times. Seeing the Igbos rocking the Yoruba cultural attires and the Yorubas doing same gives joy. Despite the name calling, in my area, the biggest Yoruba bucca or 'food-spot' is being patronized more by the Igbos. They leak their fingers while eating the Yoruba. Likewise the Yorubas, I have watched them tear down Igbo soups like they are fighting war. Then I began to wonder, do these people really hate each other or they are just pretending?


CONFLICT WISE
I am in my early 30s and I was born and raised in Lagos but spent few years in the East. Truthfully, I have never seen or heard of any conflict between these two groups. Yes, they can fight, punch, curse, tear shirts like Hulk Hogan but no head will still role. Remember, at our homes even couples always have their own differences. I am still wondering.


IN LITERATURE AND IN DIASPORA
The closest are both ethnic groups in literature. I traveled to Kenya for ministration three months ago. After ministration we went to their shopping mall at Nairobi. We saw some Yoruba dudes, immediately tribal or ethnic differences disappeared. The excitement they exhibited for seeing us was so sweet. We felt same way too. But I am still not too sure they would have displayed such excitement if they had seen a core Northerner. Please I might be wrong, but take it easy with me. You know that to an average Yoruba man, if you are not an Hausa man definitely you're Igbo. I am still wondering where the dichotomy is.


POLITICS
This is the only place where these two people don't agree. BUT WHY THE DISTRUST IN THIS AREA? But if we can eat same food, intermarry, and show love in other areas of our lives why can't we replicate this in politics? Truly, the day the East and West will wake up in this regard Nigeria will change for good.

Please if you know how the East and West can meet in politics and how to amend these differences please make your opinion known. ONE LOVE

OneCorner:
Yes na. East is always known for poverty, death, any negative thing. There's no way for success without moving to the west.
Reason a quarter plot is more valuable to an easterner than an acre of land in the east

weownlagos:
Let me increase your high bp we will buy oba akiolu's palace soon.

Ejanla07:
we yorubas re hypocrites and backstabbers..



Igbos ll stop hating us d day we take our � mouths off hausa fulani nyash.

OneCorner:
How's dat my concern
did I tell u my name is akiolu?

weownlagos:
If your name is not akiolu, or afonja then fuc.k off my mentions.

oooduancalmdown:
You see them everyday indeed. See this iboe liar. Yoruba don't copy iboes' fashion. We are proud of ours.
Bullshyte!

OneCorner:
Cry baby. Goan eat.
Boasting of others buying land while you're on nairaland wallowing in poverty and looking for successful yorubas to attack

ChidiAlaigbo:
OP

Please tell me which igbo fashion yorubas copy?

Liar........yoruba no dey rock any igbo fashion lai lai.

We don dey wear our well designed clothes for centuries before some left the jungle.

namet:
Ethnic jealousy is at the roots of the hate between the Yorubas and the Igbos. Economic and political angling of past is also responsible. The Igbos are by nature very industrious and talented. They excel at just about anything they touch. The Igbos are very aggressive and domineering people. The Yorubas are afraid of the Igbo-take-over spirit and as such, are jealous and refuse to accept that reality.

If you read through the colonial documents leading up to the 1914 Amalgamation, you will see that Federick Luggard's Muhamedian Emirate of the North was broke as he routinely was unable to pay salaries to his colonial workers. At this time, Southern Nigeria (present day SE and SS regions) generated about 115 million in trade, a monumental achievement that was never-before heard of in this part of Africa then. The Yoruba Southwest at the time was called Lagos colony and this region had very mediocre economic impact.

Lagos colony was not financially bouyant, though not as poor as the North. For the Amalgamation to work however, Lagos colony and Southern Nigeria must be grouped together, in order to access the wealth generated by the Igbos to take care of the North. Luggard and his Northern conspirators only really wanted Igbo land but excluding Lagos colony would have met disapproval from the colonial office back in England charged with approving the Amalgamation plan. So, they grouped the East and West as Southern Nigeria, where the Yorubas wanted lead but Igbos refuse to allow them.

Look at it this way: your house is poor (North) but your neighbor's house is rich (South). To access your neighbor's wealth you announce that both houses belong to the same compound, so as to grab and share in the wealth of your neighbor's house.

To highlight the aggressiveness of Igbo success and ingenuity, the Igbos dominated industry and government before the civil war. Azikiwe even attempted to rule over the Yorubas in their land. Being dominated like that shook, and continues to shake, the Yorubas to their core, hence, the animosity.

More so, because the wealth of the new Nigeria was domiciled in the then South east (today's SS and SE combined), the Yorubas made sure they stand with the North to exterminate the Igbos for attempting to break away the rich region from the poor and parasitic regions. The civil war was genocide on the Igbos, Awolowo seized all the food and humanitarian supplies sent from other countries to the Igbos because the supplies came through Lagos port. The threat to deny the Yorubas and Northerners a share in the wealth now domiciled in today's SS region is why the Igbos are highly discriminated against politically, today, by the benefactors of one Nigeria. Obasanjo has confessed openly in the past that if the Federal government allows a functional seaport in the then Southeastern region, that the Igbos will use it to import military weapons to fight for breakoff. It is this reason why every was taken to Lagos.

So, the hatred or animosity between the Yorubas and the Igbos is rooted in these ethno-political and economic facts of the past. It is not personal, but ethnic or tribal instincts necessitates the blocking of other ethnic groups from outcompeting your ethnic group. The Yorubas see the Igbos as their rival in just about everything. They think of themselves as second to the North but they see the Igbos as challenging that, even with no political power or federal government help. They despise the guts of the Igbos.

Great people survive extermination. Most countries around the world hate Israel because they survived extermination by Hitler's Germany, and are today one of the strongest country and people on earth. The Igbos survived extermination by Northerners and the Yorubas to emerge today's most industrious and economically creative people. The Yorubas think this economic feat should be them. If the Igbos are allowed political power, in addition to their ability to generate money and to create things out of nothing, imagine how powerful the Igbos would dominate hence, the reason for the jealousy. The Yorubas are afraid of being dominated, but their Lagos is dominated and bought over by the Igbos. These are the causal factors.

I am not Igbo!

Obi1kenobi:
You do know that what you call "agbada" is not native to Yoruba land? The only authentic thing is the Yoruba name and minor difference in design to what is obtainable in West and Sahelian African countries like Mali and Senegal from where it actually originated and had been won for over a century before it got to you. What you call Agbada today was brought to Yoruba land by Fulanis and Hausa merchants who in-turn were influenced by the Songhai and Malian empires cotton outfits, and who in turn were influenced by North African/Arab attire. Sometime in the 20th century, Yorubas simply made their variation of it and it was popularized through the "owambe" culture. You didn't "invent" the agbada. You copied it.

But you can continue deceiving yourself with your supremacist bullshiit.

STAMOS:
Northern Nigeria is united and dominated by the largest group which is Hausa/Fulani. Hausa Fulani influence overwhelms the smaller tribes of the north - Hausa covers the North.Hausa is the face of the North . Islamic religion which is the dominant religion encourages sodality than Christianity.

Southern Dynamics : Igbo and Yoruba have almost the same population size. No southern group is dominant enough to cover entire South. Even if Nigeria is divided into north ,west and east. Hausa has dominance over north, Yoruba has dominance over west. Igbo has no dominance over East(including the southern geographical area) .
Christianity doesn't encourage sodality.

Thesis : Southern Nigerian unification is unrealistic and impractical

omoharry:
Dont take to heart the negative comment form this people here against one another in the south..if only you could see beyond the screen you will dsicover that majority of them are still in secondary schools or writing JAMB or WAEC..so many children with shallow way of thinking lucking around nairaland..this place used to be a platform for great minds but has been reduced to a play zone..the matured members barely comment anymore,..you will see them in other platform just as investment and business sections.The hand shake across the NIGER has positive impact..the tension between the east and the west has been limited..unlike before.its a good thing.