Lipscomb:
Yoruba's land never been under Fulani sieges its only Ilorin handed over their land to Fulani because of selfishness of Anfonja who mastermind the war , nupe laid siege on Yoruba land and they met their Waterloo . Yoruba people are courage and brave in war that is why Oyo empire is the most vast empire in Africa if not because of Yoruba inter States war which lasted for 100 years no tribes or ethnic deal confront Yoruba people. The Yoruba interstates war caused us a lot things as a result of this war Oyo empire collapsed and lost prestige, that's why Fulani claimed Ilorin.

The style of emirate administration probably stopped when the British took over administration in what eventually became Nigeria. I urge you to study the history Nigeria and range of emirate. Any area under the administrative influence of emirate, was a vassal territory of Sokoto Caliphate. The Yoruba lands declared western region of Nigeria were the ones not under the influence of Sokoto Caliphate.

Chidexter:


Inter tribal war is almost a constant. There are numerous wars between inter ethnic groups that may be undocumented.

You too mumu, even Akure and Idanre war was documented. So na war between trbe dem no go documenr. Typical ipob brain.

Chidexter:
Inter tribal war is almost a constant. There are numerous wars between inter ethnic groups that may be undocumented.

Not one on the scale he described. How come other inter-tribal wars were well-documented by historians, yet the one he made reference to, conveniently remained undocumented? There are several Igbo historians who have documented other wars, are you saying they forgot about this? Where is Akagbe located on the map? As the only Akagbe community that I know, is located in Cross River State close to the Cameroun border.

Strikethem:
You too mumu, even Akure and Idanre war was documented. So na war between trbe dem no go documenr. Typical ipob brain.

Thanks for the compliment. If you could learn to argue without abusing or making derogatory remarks you might go places

laudate:


Not one on the scale he described. How come other inter-tribal wars were well-documented by historians, yet the one he made reference to, conveniently remained undocumented? There are several Igbo historians who have documented other wars, are you saying they forgot about this? Where is Akagbe located on the map? As the only Akagbe community that I know, is located in Cross River State close to the Cameroun border.

Yeah, probably not on a gigantic scale to have needed keeping a close eye on
Akagbe is located at Enugu state in Nkanu local government. Except there's another one I don't know of.

laudate:

That is because the caliphate never headed eastwards, they went westwards.....towards Ilorin and Ibadan. Their forays in that area were well documented! Our teachers taught every student all these facts, in our history classes, long ago!

Unless you can provide references to documented facts about this so-called Akagbe war, then it would be viewed as another fairytale. At least, the Ekumeku war is well-documented, just like the Aba women's riot. So which one is Akagbe war?

I have know you as a fake news peddler. Sokoko Caliphate stretched to eastward to Adamawa and Taraba. They committed a suicidal blunder when tried to head southeast-ward and beat a hasty retreat.

Chidexter:


Thanks for the compliment. If you could learn to argue without abusing or making derogatory remarks you might go places

Nothing is derogatory. Even primary school will never say what you just said.

Strikethem:
Nothing is derogatory. Even primary school will never say what you just said.

I hear, Albert Einstein. Keep off my mention, I'll reply you only when you learn to control yourself. Argue like an adult and one who's learned. Just take a look at the way you pounced on the conversation as if I stole your money in real life

DerideGull:
I have know you as a fake news peddler. Sokoko Caliphate stretched to eastward to Adamawa and Taraba. They committed a suicidal blunder when tried to head southeast-ward and beat a hasty retreat.

Guy, the only person peddling fake news here is just you. The history of Fulani encounters among the Adamawa tribes, are well known and well documented. So how come your own narrative about Igbo involvement in Ogbomosho war is nowhere to be found? See how you are also busy pushing one story about a so-called Akagbe war on this thread. Where was this Akagbe town or village located? In what century did the war take place? Who were the main proponents? What were the surrounding communities? Where is the historical evidence, that supports your narration?

Chidexter:


I hear, Albert Einstein. Keep off my mention, I'll reply you only when you learn to control yourself. Argue like an adult and one who's learned. Just take a look at the way you pounced on the conversation as if I stole your money in real life

To you, you think i am angry, afterall, you are the one angry just cos i told the the truth.

DerideGull:


Keep fooling yourself. The hallmark of pretense is insincerity. By the way, I would not want you to get enlightened.

You are quick to concort your own history of Yoruba people but can’t even come up with Igbo history lool

laudate:


Guy, the only person peddling fake news here is just you. The history of Fulani encounters among the Adamawa tribes, are well known and well documented. So how come your own narrative about Igbo involvement in Ogbomosho war is nowhere to be found? See how you are also busy pushing one story about a so-called Akagbe war on this thread. Where was this Akagbe town or village located? In what century did the war take place? Who were the main proponents? What were the surrounding communities? Where is the historical evidence, that supports your narration?

Maybe he meant ijebu Igbo
Ibo is lacking history so much it now has to latch to Yoruba history
I can’t imagine a Yoruba man forcing himself on Igbo nupe or kanuri history

Markfemi:
Maybe he meant ijebu Igbo
Ibo is lacking history so much it now has to latch to Yoruba history
I can’t imagine a Yoruba man forcing himself on Igbo nupe or kanuri history

But I don't think the Ijebu-Igbo people are related to the Nd'Igbo. Or am I missing something here? I thought their origins were different!

laudate:


But I don't think the Ijebu-Igbo people are related to the Nd'Igbo. Or am I missing something here? I thought their origins were different!

I never said they are realated Igbo means forest or bush and has 0 ties to igbos in south east

Strikethem:
To you, you think i am angry, afterall, you are the one angry just cos i told the the truth.

Finally! One post without an abusive word. You learn fast cheers

Published on January 25, 2018 By Abba Mahmood.
There is virtually no part of Nigeria that is peaceful. There is virtually no household that is happy. There is virtually no individual that is not living in fear in Nigeria today.. School fees and hospital bills are becoming difficult for most people. Even one square meal is becoming a luxury for most. The value of the Naira against the Dollar is the worst in the history of Nigeria. The cost of fuel, where available, is the highest in the history of this so called oil producing country. The endurance level of the ordinary people has been stretched to its limit. Is President Buhari not aware of this? The police are under=paid, under=trained and overstretched. Consequently, the soldiers who are the last line of defence of any nation are now the first, having been drafted to 32 out of the 36 states doing internal security operations. About 70 percent of the federal permanent secretaries were directors of finance who could pay to be promoted to permanent secretaries. They are not trained administrators, consequently, they are not good in either policy formulation or implementation. They are only good in what they know best: making money. Is the president not aware of this? The verdict out there in the public is that this government, as constituted now with its skewed appointments, is the most provincial, most sectional and most primordial. And no one would have complained if competent ones were appointed but this team is one of the least competent thus lacking the capacity to deliver. Thus, an already difficult situation is becoming disastrous, as if reminding us of what Machiavelli said: “the first impression that one gets of a ruler and of his brains is from seeing the men he has about him”. Is the president not aware of this? If we go down even to our recent history, we know that when Sultan of Sokoto Sir Abubakar 111, the father of the current Sultan Saad, was going on his first pilgrimage to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, he left his household in the care of Mr Dike, an Igbo from the South who went to Sokoto in1915. Mr Dike was so trusted that he had access to the Sultan’s bedroom. Dike’s offsprings are still in Sokoto fully integrated. In doing this, Sultan Sir Abubakar 111 was practicing what his worthy ancestor, Shehu Usman Dan Fodio advised in his book, Bayan Wujub al_Hijra where Dan Fodio wrote, “one of the swiftest ways of destroying a state is to give preference to one particular tribe over another, or to show favor to one group of people rather than another, and draw near those who should be kept away and keep away those who should be drawn near.” Is President Buhari not aware of this?
Even the immediate two predecessors of President Buhari, as unexposed to national limelight as they were, tried to have national outlook. Late President Umaru YarAdua’s ADC was from Edo state, his Principal Secretary who acted as Chief of Staff when the office of Chief of Staff was abolished, was from Delta state, his Defence Minister was also from the South, among others, and all his security chiefs were Christians. His successor, President Goodluck Jonathan’s NSA was from Sokoto, Defence Minister from Zamfara, his ADC was from Benue, his Chief Detail was Muslim from Bauchi while his Principal Private Secretary was a Fulani from Adamawa. They tried to build a national platform as it should be for presidents. Is the president not aware of this? In Kano, which is supposed to be the political base of President Buhari, Governor Ganduje is fighting Senator Kwankwaso who not only delivered Kano state one hundred percent to the ruling party in2015 but came second during the party’s presidential primaries. No one is calling anyone to order and Kano gave Buhari the highest votes.
Like Kano, most state branches of the ruling party are in crisis. The All Progressives Congress(APC) controls 24 states, both Houses of the National Assembly and the presidency yet they seem to accomplish nothing in three years. They are busy fighting each other and the president as leader of the party is not giving the required leadership. Is the president not aware of this? To further compound matters, the appointees of this government are fighting each other as we read in newspapers. Close aides of the president are said to be hardly on speaking terms. Various agencies are working at cross purposes, even undermining presidential authority with no one calling anyone to order. In any case, most of them are serving their personal interests as they represent no one but themselves. Most of them were never known to the party or to the people they claim to represent. Consequently, Nigeria is drifting. Is the president not aware of this? This is usually what happens when ministers who are recognized by the Constitution are subordinated to the Chief of Staff(COS) which is not a constitutional office. Buhari has centralized everything to the COS so much that he appears to have abdicated his presidential responsibilities to his COS who now looks like a de facto president, as he controls access to the de jure president. Every government policy or personnel is subordinated to that office, so much that those who voted are feeling shortchanged. Is anyone still wondering why this government is stagnant and this country is static? And is the president not aware of this? In the same book quoted above, Shehu Dan Fodio wrote: “O leader, you have kept yourself secluded from your subjects, by means of Chamberlains and doors and you have set up high mountains before them while God’s door is open to petitioners; there is neither Chamberlain nor doorkeeper there. A Kingdom can endure with unbelief but it cannot endure with injustice.” In the same book, Dan Fodio further wrote that:”the crown of a leader is his integrity, his stronghold is his impartiality and his wealth is (the welfare of) his people. There can be no triumph with transgression, no rule without learning and no leadership with vengeance.” Is the president not aware of this? President Buhari should know that he has squandered enormous goodwill both in Nigeria and outside since he took over about three years ago. He has disappointed so many people. No one would ever think that he will preside over this tragic mess. If he had done the right things no one would have been talking of the discredited PDP by now. The three or so people who have caged him can’t deliver even one local government to him politically. Is the president not aware of this? Because he believes in democracy he should get ready to give account of his stewardship by next year if he will contest again. Because he believes in God, he should also prepare to account for his deeds, as all of us will surely do one day, in the hereafter. That is the ultimate accountability we are all waiting for. History is on the side of the oppressed.

Published on January 25, 2018 By Abba Mahmood.
There is virtually no part of Nigeria that is peaceful. There is virtually no household that is happy. There is virtually no individual that is not living in fear in Nigeria today.. School fees and hospital bills are becoming difficult for most people. Even one square meal is becoming a luxury for most. The value of the Naira against the Dollar is the worst in the history of Nigeria. The cost of fuel, where available, is the highest in the history of this so called oil producing country. The endurance level of the ordinary people has been stretched to its limit. Is President Buhari not aware of this? The police are under=paid, under=trained and overstretched. Consequently, the soldiers who are the last line of defence of any nation are now the first, having been drafted to 32 out of the 36 states doing internal security operations. About 70 percent of the federal permanent secretaries were directors of finance who could pay to be promoted to permanent secretaries. They are not trained administrators, consequently, they are not good in either policy formulation or implementation. They are only good in what they know best: making money. Is the president not aware of this? The verdict out there in the public is that this government, as constituted now with its skewed appointments, is the most provincial, most sectional and most primordial. And no one would have complained if competent ones were appointed but this team is one of the least competent thus lacking the capacity to deliver. Thus, an already difficult situation is becoming disastrous, as if reminding us of what Machiavelli said: “the first impression that one gets of a ruler and of his brains is from seeing the men he has about him”. Is the president not aware of this? If we go down even to our recent history, we know that when Sultan of Sokoto Sir Abubakar 111, the father of the current Sultan Saad, was going on his first pilgrimage to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, he left his household in the care of Mr Dike, an Igbo from the South who went to Sokoto in1915. Mr Dike was so trusted that he had access to the Sultan’s bedroom. Dike’s offsprings are still in Sokoto fully integrated. In doing this, Sultan Sir Abubakar 111 was practicing what his worthy ancestor, Shehu Usman Dan Fodio advised in his book, Bayan Wujub al_Hijra where Dan Fodio wrote, “one of the swiftest ways of destroying a state is to give preference to one particular tribe over another, or to show favor to one group of people rather than another, and draw near those who should be kept away and keep away those who should be drawn near.” Is President Buhari not aware of this?
Even the immediate two predecessors of President Buhari, as unexposed to national limelight as they were, tried to have national outlook. Late President Umaru YarAdua’s ADC was from Edo state, his Principal Secretary who acted as Chief of Staff when the office of Chief of Staff was abolished, was from Delta state, his Defence Minister was also from the South, among others, and all his security chiefs were Christians. His successor, President Goodluck Jonathan’s NSA was from Sokoto, Defence Minister from Zamfara, his ADC was from Benue, his Chief Detail was Muslim from Bauchi while his Principal Private Secretary was a Fulani from Adamawa. They tried to build a national platform as it should be for presidents. Is the president not aware of this? In Kano, which is supposed to be the political base of President Buhari, Governor Ganduje is fighting Senator Kwankwaso who not only delivered Kano state one hundred percent to the ruling party in2015 but came second during the party’s presidential primaries. No one is calling anyone to order and Kano gave Buhari the highest votes.
Like Kano, most state branches of the ruling party are in crisis. The All Progressives Congress(APC) controls 24 states, both Houses of the National Assembly and the presidency yet they seem to accomplish nothing in three years. They are busy fighting each other and the president as leader of the party is not giving the required leadership. Is the president not aware of this? To further compound matters, the appointees of this government are fighting each other as we read in newspapers. Close aides of the president are said to be hardly on speaking terms. Various agencies are working at cross purposes, even undermining presidential authority with no one calling anyone to order. In any case, most of them are serving their personal interests as they represent no one but themselves. Most of them were never known to the party or to the people they claim to represent. Consequently, Nigeria is drifting. Is the president not aware of this? This is usually what happens when ministers who are recognized by the Constitution are subordinated to the Chief of Staff(COS) which is not a constitutional office. Buhari has centralized everything to the COS so much that he appears to have abdicated his presidential responsibilities to his COS who now looks like a de facto president, as he controls access to the de jure president. Every government policy or personnel is subordinated to that office, so much that those who voted are feeling shortchanged. Is anyone still wondering why this government is stagnant and this country is static? And is the president not aware of this? In the same book quoted above, Shehu Dan Fodio wrote: “O leader, you have kept yourself secluded from your subjects, by means of Chamberlains and doors and you have set up high mountains before them while God’s door is open to petitioners; there is neither Chamberlain nor doorkeeper there. A Kingdom can endure with unbelief but it cannot endure with injustice.” In the same book, Dan Fodio further wrote that:”the crown of a leader is his integrity, his stronghold is his impartiality and his wealth is (the welfare of) his people. There can be no triumph with transgression, no rule without learning and no leadership with vengeance.” Is the president not aware of this? President Buhari should know that he has squandered enormous goodwill both in Nigeria and outside since he took over about three years ago. He has disappointed so many people. No one would ever think that he will preside over this tragic mess. If he had done the right things no one would have been talking of the discredited PDP by now. The three or so people who have caged him can’t deliver even one local government to him politically. Is the president not aware of this? Because he believes in democracy he should get ready to give account of his stewardship by next year if he will contest again. Because he believes in God, he should also prepare to account for his deeds, as all of us will surely do one day, in the hereafter. That is the ultimate accountability we are all waiting for. History is on the side of the oppressed.

DerideGull:


When your forbearers were on the run heading southward and in the process forfeiting lands to the Caliphate, Ndigbo were defeating Sokoto Caliphate at any given battle. Yari.ba were living under the rocks until British invited the Sierra Leoneans to assist in brushing up the Yari.ba peeps.

LOL

The Sokoto knew you were inconsequential lot and didn’t bother to venture towards your region. Ever wondered why everything for Naija dey count una out? Ever wondered why Buhari referred to y’all as 5%ers? It is all reflection of how weightless Igbo are since pre-independence.

Meanwhile, below are pictures of your ancestors in 20th century i.e 1901 downwards butt nekkid with no modicum of compkex civilization.


The last picture is that of Yoruba females in the same pre-independence era.

Butt nekkid mercenary

ZZ22:
is it the same army that ran away at the sight of Dahormey women?

Read, na lie. Na so so mouth to ear action una like.

Independent missionary papers; C.M.S papers; Colonial reports and explorers journals all recorded the Egba-Dahomey wars and how Egba people routed Dahomey more than 3 times and even took the royal throne, crown, umbrella & other royal paraphernalia.

Go & read before posting.

Turantula:

Ur borders should never be closed for ur kith and kin, you never know, u may be related

Yoruba from Benin Republic and Togo come to Nigeria but they mostly stay within bordee towns like Idi Iroko in Ogun state.

Our people should encourage free access and movements into our lands like the Northern Nigeria does with Niger and Chad.

Strikethem:
If you see the way i dey laugh the guy here

LMAO nor mind those forested plinks whose reason for civilization is contact with Yoruba; something very much the norm till today.

I still don't get the joy we gain from all these tribal stuffs while in real life and in most cases based on my personal observation tribal difference doesn't hinder harmony

You're distorting of history I will not arguing with you.

DerideGull:


The style of emirate administration probably stopped when the British took over administration in what eventually became Nigeria. I urge you to study the history Nigeria and range of emirate. Any area under the administrative influence of emirate, was a vassal territory of Sokoto Caliphate. The Yoruba lands declared western region of Nigeria were the ones not under the influence of Sokoto Caliphate.

Lipscomb:
You're distorting of history I will not arguing with you.

Bro, please you can use your local dialect English is not by force

Chidexter:


Bro, please you can use your local dialect English is not by force

I'm not here to teach English. So you can take your jocular remark somewhere else.

Lipscomb:
I'm not here to teach English. So you can take your jocular remark somewhere else.

We Nigerians on the edge everyday. Lol...... I'm so having fun

Y0ruba:


Yoruba from Benin Republic and Togo come to Nigeria but they mostly stay within bordee towns like Idi Iroko in Ogun state.

Our people should encourage free access and movements into our lands like the Northern Nigeria does with Niger and Chad.

I agree, am igbo though!

Turantula:

I agree, am igbo though!

One of the very reasonable ones.

It is all about being reasonable and speaking the truth.

Sapiosexuality:
I think this country was built to fail. The fact that we are too heterogeneous in actions and thoughts, that a people brag about defeating another people, in one country, is a testament of our difference.

We are too heterogeneous and this type of speech is not really bad in a heterogeneous setting. No need to curse the guy because we will say the same thing when posed with threats of race preservation.

If we saw ourselves as one, or even try to be one, such words will not exist in our lexicon. I'm not against tribalism, that is, love for and preservation of your tribe. There is nothing wrong with it.

He's right. Fulanis have remained unbeatable. They roll religion into tribal identity and get soldiers on two fonts. One. The non-fulani confused Muslims who defends them. Two. The Fulani Muslim. That's genius.

@ bolded

Abeg who are the non-fulani muslims who defends fulanis with all their might?

Are you refering to our amiable ewedu muslims?

Are you refering

Chidexter:


Finally! One post without an abusive word. You learn fast cheers

, i am not used to abusing people o. Sorry if my statment sounded abusive.

Strikethem:
, i am not used to abusing people o. Sorry if my statment sounded abusive.

No hard feelings bro

The only thing I can comprehend in all these blabbing, is the fact that The north and the west weren't the best of friends in precolonial Nigeria and the east was never invaded by both the west and the north, in medieval combat there is something called battle of two sides( don't know its official name) this requires attacking an enemy army from the north and appearing from the east forcing your opponent army to panick and disband to the west .
So looking at the northern tribes army or the western tribes army I am made to believe they might have a little idea of this military style. So somewhere in history either sides tried to venture into the east both maybe it didn't work out well leading to them facing each other in straight line combat( both parties met at a designated area to fight). Pls in a less harsh manner quote me wrong. Thanks