₦airaland Forum

Daeylar:
She isn't spoiling chances of anything,
Just because one person lies about rape doesn't mean everyone else that speaks about rape or kidnapping is lying. Very ridiculous mindset.
Stop using one woman as an excuse to treat every other woman badly,
That's no longer on dorcas
That's on you.

Let them go to court, if she is wrong. Then she should be jailed, the Man's name should be cleared and everyone should move on.

I'm tired of people using this case as an excuse

Whether you believe or not, let the case get judged in court.


It should be as simple that.

Daeylar:
She isn't spoiling chances of anything,
Just because one person lies about rape doesn't mean everyone else that speaks about rape or kidnapping is lying. Very ridiculous mindset.
Stop using one woman as an excuse to treat every other woman badly,
That's no longer on dorcas
That's on you.

Let them go to court, if she is wrong. Then she should be jailed, the Man's name should be cleared and everyone should move on.

I'm tired of people using this case as an excuse

Whether you believe or not, let the case get judged on court.


It should be as simple that.

deolumike:
seriously??

So it's that simple. Just go to court and clear your name.

You really shouldn't be that simpleminded. The dude in question has first of all lost his job. No conviction yet o!

He will always carry that tag in people's mind no matter what... '"...you mean that guy that was accused of rape/kidnap""

Do you see the stigma and hardship he's already being subjected to.

You sit your lazy ass on a complacent couch and use your ignorant fingers to type trash because you're not the one facing false charges.

...And yes. False claims like this reduces the credibility of otherwise genuine cases of rape.

FreshBoiy:

You have both made valid points. However I would like to agree and disagree with a few things.

This is where I totally agree with Daeylar and this is my personal opinion. The fact that someone lies about being raped or kidnapped doesn't reduce the credibility of genuine rape/kidnap cases.

Criminal cases are not subject to "public opinions or polls" which makes this argument about "credibility" void. Everyone has a choice to believe whatever they want to. However, it is up to the legal system to decide based on facts and evidence presented before a Judge if a particular case is genuine or not.

If for example everyone chooses not to believe a genuine rape case, does this therefore mean the police wouldn't investigate? Does it change the dynamics in any way? Absolutely not.

On the flip side this is where I totally agree with deolumike . For one who is wrongly accused of Rape or Kidnap, there is a stigma automatically attached to the person. Even if his name gets cleared and is published on every newspaper and blog, it wouldn't of necessity take away that stigma especially in a country like Nigeria. People would still refer to him as one who was accused of "rape/kidnap".

He might still struggle to get a job, because some people would still "choose" to believe he is guilty, while others wouldn't want to take the risk of employing someone who has been previously accused of such because of the image it would give the organisation.

tuzle:
i have just one question, is the court of law always right? Because I have read people charged for crimes they didn't commit even in countries where corruption is low

Chevronstaff:
How can you face a trauma like that and you still use snapchat filter and makeup on your video? Miss Dorcas Shola Fapson ; how far na??

Miss Dorcas Shola Fapson Is a disgrace to woman hood, Simple....!!!!!

Does she even know the meaning of "KIDNAP and RAPE?" She claimed she was being kidnapped yet she SAT DOWN COMFORTABLY recording him as he drove you to an unknown location, opened the car, got down and left her alone to open a gate..

How can a guy who is trying to rape you let you have Video all through

babadee1:
The whole story has been blown out of proportion. It's obvious it was a misunderstanding on both their parts. However, nowhere at all did the actress ever accuse the driver of raping her. She said he took her to a house at a remote location and tried to drag her out of the car.
As a result, she assumed he was either a kidnapper or a rapist. That's a reasonable conclusion to reach based on the events.

Daeylar:
She isn't spoiling chances of anything,
Just because one person lies about rape doesn't mean everyone else that speaks about rape or kidnapping is lying. Very ridiculous mindset.
Stop using one woman as an excuse to treat every other woman badly,
That's no longer on dorcas
That's on you.

Let them go to court, if she is wrong. Then she should be jailed, the Man's name should be cleared and everyone should move on.

I'm tired of people using this case as an excuse

Whether you believe or not, let the case get judged in court.


It should be as simple that.

Olumaeme:
But women call men scum because of an experience with a bad guy...

FreshBoiy:

You have both made valid points. However I would like to agree and disagree with a few things.

This is where I totally agree with and this is my personal opinion. The fact that someone lies about being raped or kidnapped doesn't reduce the credibility of genuine rape/kidnap cases.

Criminal cases are not subject to "public opinions or polls" which makes this argument about "credibility" void. Everyone has a choice to believe whatever they want to. However, it is up to the legal system to decide based on facts and evidence presented before a Judge if a particular case is genuine or not.

If for example everyone chooses not to believe a genuine rape case, does this therefore mean the police wouldn't investigate? Does it change the dynamics in any way? Absolutely not.

On the flip side this is where I totally agree with [b [/b]. For one who is wrongly accused of Rape or Kidnap, there is a stigma automatically attached to the person. Even if his name gets cleared and is published on every newspaper and blog, it wouldn't of necessity take away that stigma especially in a country like Nigeria. People would still refer to him as one who was accused of "rape/kidnap".

He might still struggle to get a job, because some people would still "choose" to believe he is guilty, while others wouldn't want to take the risk of employing someone who has been previously accused of such because of the image it would give the organisation.

Follygunners:
Are you the defendant? Fool!

Daeylar:
She isn't spoiling chances of anything,
Just because one person lies about rape doesn't mean everyone else that speaks about rape or kidnapping is lying. Very ridiculous mindset.
Stop using one woman as an excuse to treat every other woman badly,
That's no longer on dorcas
That's on you.

Let them go to court, if she is wrong. Then she should be jailed, the Man's name should be cleared and everyone should move on.

I'm tired of people using this case as an excuse

Whether you believe or not, let the case get judged in court.


It should be as simple that.

Daeylar:
Thanks jare.


Exactly you get my point,
however I think they mean because it seems this girl is lying therefore they will disregard every other woman who speaks out about rape or kidnapping, just because this girl is lying,
And that's what I'm vehemently against,
It's a very ridiculous mentality
Like I said and you said also,
Whether they believe or not is immaterial, the case should be judged in court and we should wait for judgement,

That guy that quoted me and started his post by insulting himself is nothing but a fool, he didn't attack the person who made that statement,
He went to attack me just because I agreed,
Why didn't he attack the original poster?? and the most ridiculous part is that he is off point,
The simple point is that people who rape and people who falsely accuse someone of rape should face the same punishment and I agreed,
How does that relate to him ranting about the person's name being cleared and all that?

I don't wasted my time on confused fools,.


Going back to what you said,
Something should be done about that. That isn't right at all,
Maybe a law can be made? If someone is cleared of a false rape accusation, it's becomes a crime to hold it against the person? I don't know but that's just an idea,
Do you have any ideas?

FreshBoiy:

I want to believe what triggered him to respond to you that way (Which i'm in no way justifying his insults) was because you ended your post with "It should be as simple as that". There is a life to be lived after the court case. Court cases could also take months depriving the young man of a job and a means of livelihood during this period. It's actually complicated when you look at it holistically.

However, this is the problem with many Nigerians. Rather than constructively arguing their point, they would rather insult you to make a counter opinion.

I don't necessarily think enacting a law where it becomes a crime to discriminate against someone who has been cleared of a false rape allegation would be effective. There are laws in advanced countries against racism, antisemitism, discrimination,etc. But in reality what these laws have succeeded in doing is reduce how people openly discriminate and not actually stopped discrimination.

For example if you applied for a Job in an organisation where the hiring manager is "racist", he would't decline your application if you're qualified as that might appear as some form of "discrimination". What he would rather do in the guise of being "non-racist" would be to get back to you after the interview thanking you for your time but stating that unfortunately you didn't meet the requirements for the role.

What I think would be more effective would be for the court to award a large some of money as compensation paid by the plaintiff to the defendant. While the plaintiff also gets jail time. That would serve as a deterrent to anyone before accusing someone falsely of rape or kidnap. But then again there is the element of how much trust can one actually place on our judicial system. Sigh!

However, the sad reality remains it would be extremely difficult to get rid of the stigma that would be attached to the one who has been falsely accused in Nigeria.

Daeylar:
I think for you're also missing the point of that, statement as simple as that, I wonder why


Replace that with "agreed" and you'll see that all I did was just to agree with the Guy's statement because I share the same sentiments,
Rape someone. You go to jail,
Falsely accuse someone of rape. You go to jail.
Like I said earlier, it's that simple, there is no excuse.
That statement, was solely to agree with the post of that guy, I wasn't rounding up anything. Just agreed with that post.

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That's why I said he is foolish and it's even worse because he was off point.


The money should be paid on both sides, those who rape, and those who falsely accuse others of rape,
They should both pay their victims, it should be a given,
Part of what the victims will get.


You're right on the law aspect but at least if someone outrightly disrespects you with the cleared accusations
or discriminates against you to your face, you can sue and the person goes to jail,
It's something at least right?
Maybe we can start from there?

Extremely difficult yes, but at least it's doable, and we can start or attempt to do something,
And maybe attempt to change the mentality of the Nigerian people that if someone has been cleared of rape accusations, that means the person is innocent and no one should throw that in his face.

babadee1:
The whole story has been blown out of proportion. It's obvious it was a misunderstanding on both their parts. However, nowhere at all did the actress ever accuse the driver of raping her. She said he took her to a house at a remote location and tried to drag her out of the car.
As a result, she assumed he was either a kidnapper or a rapist. That's a reasonable conclusion to reach based on the events.

babadee1:
She called him a rapist because he drove her to his house and tried to drag her out of the car. If anybody did that to your sister you would call him a rapist too.

FreshBoiy:

I actually got your point the first time. I knew you were only agreeing with the person you quoted but the way you put it is what I don't agree with. There is a lengthy legal process which can drain the one who is innocent mentally, psychologically and financially to say the least.

Your statement kinda makes it look like determining if someone was falsely accused and sentencing the accuser to jail is a verdict that can be easily reached.

And I agree with every other point you've made.

However, this is the problem with many Nigerians. Rather than constructively arguing their point, they would rather insult you to make a counter opinion

Chevronstaff:
How can you face a trauma like that and you still use snapchat filter and makeup on your video? Miss Dorcas Shola Fapson ; how far na??

Miss Dorcas Shola Fapson Is a disgrace to woman hood, Simple....!!!!!

Does she even know the meaning of "KIDNAP and RAPE?" She claimed she was being kidnapped yet she SAT DOWN COMFORTABLY recording him as he drove you to an unknown location, opened the car, got down and left her alone to open a gate..

How can a guy who is trying to rape you let you have Video all through