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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by raymexx: 8:27am On Feb 14, 2018
paxonel:

The catholic church was seen as the universal church at the time saint Valentine lived. There was no Protestants at that time talkless of pentecostals, therefore saint valentine was saint of the universal church, which includes all churches, be it catholic, Protestants or pentecostals
Hahahaha see ur argument, why don't u then celebrate many other Catholic saints who lived during your so called Universal church time. most of Catholic doctrines was made during that time, why don't u follow it. Mitcheeewwww

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by osomegbe(m): 8:27am On Feb 14, 2018
Empredboy:
but there was Pentecostal and protestants during the time of Mary and other saints? please explain
There was non. They both started long after Mary. Don't confuse things. We should be seen winning the unsaved. Present Valentine's celebration was not the intentions of saint Valentine. Se-x everywhere, beer parlour drinking, orgies parties etc. Let's be truthful to ourselves, we Christians are to blame. We take things too light. The people that will really go to the helpless will be less than 0.0001 %. What a turn around of what the day should stand for.

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by CAPSLOCKED: 8:28am On Feb 14, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
This is one of the reasons I'm convinced Christianity is false and Holy Spirit is fictional cuz Christians can't agree on anything despite talking to the same holy spirit who is promised that it'll reveal the real truth to them

From the very beginning, Christians have split and diverged and disagreed about matters of extreme consequence, and matters that seem (on the face of it) totally trivial. For close to 1,500 years the chief hobby of Christendom seemed to be finding reasons to murder other Christians, and to this day thousands of Christian variations exist, many of which are utterly incompatible and "heretical" to each other's point of view. From Arianism to "Mariolotry", from thefilioque, to anti-trinitarian Oneness Pentecostalism, from hardline Feeneyism to Christian Universalism, from Quietism to televangelists ... any doctrinal standpoint held by one Christian group is guaranteed to be held in contempt by other (ostensibly) fellow Christians.

Yet every last one of them bows their knees before the Father, every last one of them believes that Christ dwells in their hearts and that they are strengthened by the power of this Spirit. Every last one of them"knows" that they are correct and everyone else is wrong. They alone are "filled up by the fullness of God." They can "feel it in their hearts".

"By their fruits you will know them," wrote the unknown author(s) of the book we call Matthew, and those words are quite right. The fruits of Christianity have always been discord among themselves, dehumanization of others and mutual persecution over whatever passes for heresy at that time and place. "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit" applies wonderfully to Christianity. By that very standard, the tree of Christianity is rotten to the core and more prickly than a cactus. It is evident and obvious that there is no "still, small voice" guiding Christians, that the Bible is wrong when it promises to reveal the truth to believers ... because regardless of one's belief, there are millions upon millions of other Christians who are convinced of that belief's incorrectness, convinced that the Holy Spirit has lit their path to truth (and likely think said "heretics" deserve eternal punishment to boot despite the fact that they are all supplicants to the same Lord).






YOU DON'T FIND OTHER RELIGIONS BEATING EACH OTHER UP LIKE THIS.

YOU KNOW WHY?


CHRISTIANITY IS THE MOST CONTRADICTORY RELIGION.

HOW CAN YOU BLAME THE CHRISTIAN DENOMINATION FOR NOT AGREEING ON A THING TOGETHER, WHEN EVEN THE GOSPEL WRITERS COULDN'T AGREE ON THE STORY OF JESUS.

ALL OF THEM HAVE CONTRADICTORY ACCOUNTS FOR THAT. FUNNY ENOUGH LUKE ALONE CONTRADICTS HIS OWN SELF WITH DISAGREEING STATEMENTS IN HIS BOOK, JUST FEW VERSES APART cheesy


ABEG JUST LEAVE CHRISTIANS ALONE WHEN THEY'RE NOT SPEWING THEIR POISON ON YOUR FACE.

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by wunmi590(m): 8:28am On Feb 14, 2018
Ogashub:
A typical Nigerian non Catholic who is drained with his or her own church doctrine will wear red tomorrow and majestically walk into her or his lover's house to wish him happy valentines day.

But every other thing about the catholic doctrine is paganized by you and your church folks.

Y'all have suddenly forgotten that Valentine is a saint In the catholic world that is usually celebrated every 14th of February, just like other catholic saints.

But tomorrow you will come online and tell us how Catholics worship Mary, you get angry when she is being celebrated. But Tomorrow, you will be buying gifts in the name of valentine.

All the Pentecostal churches that bash the catholic doctrines and saints are the ones who will even celebrate the valentine the most.

But there you are, saying you know so much about Christianity.

Now, tell me that saint valentine is a saint in your own church, I am listening, how?


Don't mind them all, come rain, come shine, I would forever remain a Catholic
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Luukasz(m): 8:28am On Feb 14, 2018
I'm a deist who has a distaste for religion but I do tell people if God proves to me religion is true and not false and he tells me christianity is the way. I will be a catholic than go to any other church in Nigeria, the catholic way is pure & holy
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by GIBT: 8:29am On Feb 14, 2018
Do Pentecostals now believe in sainthood?

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Nobody: 8:29am On Feb 14, 2018
Ogashub:
A typical Nigerian non Catholic who is drained with his or her own church doctrine will wear red tomorrow and majestically walk into her or his lover's house to wish him happy valentines day.

But every other thing about the catholic doctrine is paganized by you and your church folks.

Y'all have suddenly forgotten that Valentine is a saint In the catholic world that is usually celebrated every 14th of February, just like other catholic saints.

But tomorrow you will come online and tell us how Catholics worship Mary, you get angry when she is being celebrated. But Tomorrow, you will be buying gifts in the name of valentine.

All the Pentecostal churches that bash the catholic doctrines and saints are the ones who will even celebrate the valentine the most.

But there you are, saying you know so much about Christianity.

Now, tell me that saint valentine is a saint in your own church, I am listening, how?




Sainthood is one of the most stupiddd idea around.

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by osomegbe(m): 8:30am On Feb 14, 2018
jamp:
am not surprised........
they celebrate st valentine.
they wear their pastor like scapular
they have holy water
they have started morning devotion like morning mass
they have communion service like Holy communion
they bless handkerchief like we bless sacramentals
they do novena prayers
they ask pastors to pray for them like we ask saints to pray for us
etc
Show me where in the bible dead saints pray for the living?.

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by sholaball: 8:31am On Feb 14, 2018
Pentecostal churchea in this country are the bane of d problem facing Christianity. They are the ones that find fault in other denominations yet they have done little or nothing to promote education in Nigeria. How many public schools hv u seen that is Pentecostal owned. Am a foursquarian b4 jst so y'all knw. Their pastors own private jet, collect exurbetant money for tuition yet u see members who are less educated, can't speak good English or write supporting them. They hide under civilization yet perpetuate the most evil. Because y'all won't hornier Mary you are angry that Catholic want to. How many Catholics churches do u see litter the streets? None. But check out Pentecostal, money making enterprises they fill d streets like refuse. They are the ones that celebrate Val and organize different programs celebrating it.

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by ruffDiamond: 8:32am On Feb 14, 2018
Valentine is rooted in idolatry, paganism, just like Christmas, fueled by ignorance and accepted by fool..



same goes for birthday and burial celebration



yes,ruffDiamond says so.

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by myproperty(m): 8:32am On Feb 14, 2018
Ogashub:
A typical Nigerian non Catholic who is drained with his or her own church doctrine will wear red tomorrow and majestically walk into her or his lover's house to wish him happy valentines day.

But every other thing about the catholic doctrine is paganized by you and your church folks.

Y'all have suddenly forgotten that Valentine is a saint In the catholic world that is usually celebrated every 14th of February, just like other catholic saints.

But tomorrow you will come online and tell us how Catholics worship Mary, you get angry when she is being celebrated. But Tomorrow, you will be buying gifts in the name of valentine.

All the Pentecostal churches that bash the catholic doctrines and saints are the ones who will even celebrate the valentine the most.

But there you are, saying you know so much about Christianity.

Now, tell me that saint valentine is a saint in your own church, I am listening, how?

I thought the catholics don't bash pentecostal? A typical catholic way of reasoning never to discuss biblical issues but catholic traditions. Probably traditions are higher than the "word" in catholic

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Empredboy(m): 8:32am On Feb 14, 2018
MrMcJay:


Valentine's day is all about love.
You said pentecostals celebrate Valentine's day the most.
Going by your analogy, pentecostals celebrate love more than Catholics.

That's why you should think very well before writing online to avoid disgracing yourself.
which love do you celebrate? what do u know about St Valentine? let me remind you he was like other saints like like St Louis. why don't you celebrate St Anthony of padua or St Peter? these saints are the pillars of the church but you guys are accusing the church of idolatry yet you remember 14 feb of every year. why not remember August 8 the feast of St Dominic?

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Empredboy(m): 8:33am On Feb 14, 2018
myproperty:

I thought the catholics don't bash pentecostal? A typical catholic way of reasoning never to discuss biblical issues but catholic traditions. Probably traditions are higher than the "word"
why then are you following the Catholic tradition?
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Nobody: 8:34am On Feb 14, 2018
dingbang:
Please don't start another e war please.. Even though I am a Catholic, I won't support this. You were taught not to judge.

I were taught not to judge so that wen a homosexual priests rapes ur son, u will hide it.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Nobody: 8:35am On Feb 14, 2018
paxonel:

The catholic church was seen as the universal church at the time saint Valentine lived. There was no Protestants at that time talkless of pentecostals, therefore saint valentine was saint of the universal church, which includes all churches, be it catholic, Protestants or pentecostals

I would not like to go into a crazy debate this morning, but I'd like to point out to you that this logic of yours is highly flawed.
Most protestants, especially pentecostals, do not acknowledge canonized saints of the Catholic Church including those who lived before, during and after the days of Father Valentine.
The question is, why is Father Valentine celebrated by Catholics and non Catholics. Why is his case different and why do the Protestants/Pentecostals stick with the Catholic date of February 14?

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Sanchez01: 8:35am On Feb 14, 2018
Ogashub:
A typical Nigerian non Catholic who is drained with his or her own church doctrine will wear red tomorrow and majestically walk into her or his lover's house to wish him happy valentines day.

But every other thing about the catholic doctrine is paganized by you and your church folks.

Y'all have suddenly forgotten that Valentine is a saint In the catholic world that is usually celebrated every 14th of February, just like other catholic saints.

But tomorrow you will come online and tell us how Catholics worship Mary, you get angry when she is being celebrated. But Tomorrow, you will be buying gifts in the name of valentine.


All the Pentecostal churches that bash the catholic doctrines and saints are the ones who will even celebrate the valentine the most.

But there you are, saying you know so much about Christianity.

Now, tell me that saint valentine is a saint in your own church, I am listening, how?

Catholic faithful, you should understand that a typical Nigerian does not concern himself or herself with St. Valentine whose acts we celebrate today. As a matter of fact, the definition of Valentine's day around the world does not reflect the deeds of St. Valentine as its meaning as long been lost.

What we celebrate now is not even affiliated with religion or denomination because it is celebrated by people of various belief system, tribe and creed. The modern day St. Valentine's day is popularly known as 'Lover's day', and last I checked, this is far from the origin of the day. If the celebration of Valentine's day is affiliated with religion, I strongly believe the volume of lovers and sex acts committed on this day won't be as much as this.

I am not sure your pepper soup logic applies here.

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by dingbang(m): 8:35am On Feb 14, 2018
PrecisionFx:


I were taught not to judge so that wen a homosexual priests rapes ur son, u will hide it.
what's this mofo saying.. Please get your horrible mind out of my mentions

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by raymexx: 8:36am On Feb 14, 2018
MrMcJay:


Valentine's day is all about love.
You said pentecostals celebrate Valentine's day the most.
Going by your analogy, pentecostals celebrate love more than Catholics.

That's why you should think very well before writing online to avoid disgracing yourself.
you are shifting the goal post. we are talking about people celebrating the same thing they criticize. you mock Catholic doctrine but you still participate in what was made to be through the same doctrine. is that not hypocrisy?
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Empredboy(m): 8:37am On Feb 14, 2018
osomegbe:

There was non. They both started long after Mary. Don't confuse things. We should be seen winning the unsaved. Present Valentine's celebration was not the intentions of saint Valentine. Se-x everywhere, beer parlour drinking, orgies parties etc. Let's be truthful to ourselves, we Christians are to blame. We take things too light. The people that will really go to the helpless will be less than 0.0001 %. What a turn around of what the day should stand for.
please tell me what you know about St Valentine. also tell what made him difference from other saints just as you people say Mary is not difference from any one. why celebrate him when you can't celebrate St Anthony , St Rita or St Monica and so on
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by buhariguy(m): 8:37am On Feb 14, 2018
Empredboy:
but there was Pentecostal and protestants during the time of Mary and other saints? please explain
did the Bible emphasized the worship of mary?

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by osomegbe(m): 8:37am On Feb 14, 2018
The problem I have with Christians is that they kill and devour one another. Whether catholics, Protestant, Pentecostal, Anglican, Methodist, CAC, etc.
Preach Christ and don't preach Church. If you have safety in your spirit fine but if not, pray individually for God's will to be done.
How do you convinced a non Christian to join you when you fight everyday.
God help your body.

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by jamp: 8:38am On Feb 14, 2018
osomegbe:

Show me where in the bible dead saints pray for the living?.

i dont have your time. just read your bible or send me a pm
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by MrMcJay(m): 8:38am On Feb 14, 2018
Empredboy:
which love do you celebrate? what do u know about St Valentine? let me remind you he was like other saints like like St Louis. why don't you celebrate St Anthony of padua or St Peter? these saints are the pillars of the church but you guys are accusing the church of idolatry yet you remember 14 feb of every year. why not remember August 8 the feast of St Dominic?

I guess the meaning of my post flew over your head.

According to the unintelligent post by the OP, protestant celebrate Valentine's day more than Catholics. I don't know how he came about that drunken assertion.

As to all the saints you're celebrating, that's your religious belief. I don't have problems with them. If you like celebrate the birthday of Judas Iscariot, once it makes you happy, that's fine by me.

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Nobody: 8:38am On Feb 14, 2018
dingbang:
what's this mofo saying.. Please get your horrible mind out of my mentions


U couldn't stand the stupidity of ur assertion.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Sanchez01: 8:38am On Feb 14, 2018
GIBT:
Do Pentecostals now believe in sainthood?
No, we don't believe in the man Valentine, let alone in sainthood. Today's celebration has nothing to do with the saint (in people's mind). It is all about PHILEO.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Apina(m): 8:39am On Feb 14, 2018
The truth of the matter is this, the Catholic Church holds the fullness of Christianity, every other business center(Pentecostal) is just copying. Easter is April 1st this year, next year it will fall on a different date according to the Catholic liturgical calendar, the Mary/idol worshippers according to them but they would still celebrate it on those designated days, how ironical undecided

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by MrMcJay(m): 8:39am On Feb 14, 2018
raymexx:
you are shifting the goal post. we are talking about people celebrating the same thing they criticize. you mock Catholic doctrine but you still participate in what was made to be through the same doctrine. is that not hypocrisy?

Who is mocking Catholics? Don't generalise so that you won't fall into the same pit the OP fell into.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Empredboy(m): 8:40am On Feb 14, 2018
buhariguy:
did the Bible emphasized the worship of mary?
did the Bible emphasize the celebration of anything like Xmas or Valentine? what if St Valentine never existed because his name is not in the bible? after all you only follow what is written in the bible. please leave Catholics matter and follow only what your Bible says

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by myproperty(m): 8:41am On Feb 14, 2018
Empredboy:
but there was Pentecostal and protestants during the time of Mary and other saints? please explain
You mean there was pentecostal church during the time of mary? Drop lies and sentiment that is beclouded bt your church traditions. Even a toddler in pentecostal church knows that there is nothing like pentecostal church nor Christianity in the times of Mary.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Mynightmare: 8:41am On Feb 14, 2018
Catholic till mother earth call

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Nobody: 8:42am On Feb 14, 2018
Valentine no matter the person dat celebrate it has no biblical root. In Christianity, love is not an event but a lifestyle. Love is a fruit of the Spirit.
Valentine is manmade worldly and there are Muslims who celebrate it too.

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Empredboy(m): 8:44am On Feb 14, 2018
MrMcJay:


I guess the meaning of my post flew over your head.

According to the unintelligent post by the OP, protestant celebrate Valentine's day more than Catholics. I don't know how he came about that drunken assertion.

As to all the saints you're celebrating, that's your religious belief. I don't have problems with them. If you like celebrate the birthday of Judas Iscariot, once it makes you happy, that's fine by me.
if we are to follow only what the bible says, are we to celebrate anything at all? after all there is no Xmas celebration, or birthday. so what's special about today if I may ask you. what do Valentine means to you if we are to take it like a day set aside like Mother's Day, Teacher's day. what does Valentine day means to you? please forget Catholics or Pentecostal matter. I want to know what you know about love. remember people are reading our post.

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