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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Empredboy(m): 9:43am On Feb 14, 2018
paxonel:

No!
Martin Luther started Protestant reformation from Roman catholism at 1517. That is, about 14 centuries after Mary and other saints of her time must have died.
The bottomline is, Protestants are still part of the church, only that they have let down most catholic traditions and move on.
so what's your point?
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by INDUSTRIALFAN(m): 9:52am On Feb 14, 2018
Ubenedictus:
weytin do u, y u Neva go Church
nothing o...
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by INDUSTRIALFAN(m): 9:52am On Feb 14, 2018
Empredboy:
please always do
I'll try jare... Tnx...
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Ubenedictus(m): 9:56am On Feb 14, 2018
FriendofGod:


Both the Catholic Church and the other churches are false churches. The Catholic Church is the Whoree of Babylon mentioned in the Book of Revelation and it is a pity that the traditions of the evil Catholic Church is what is called Christianity today. Your Church has turned the Bible on its head and sadly the rest of the Christian world follows sheepishly.
and yet you go about preaching Calvinism
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Empredboy(m): 9:57am On Feb 14, 2018
MrMcJay:


Do you know Deeper Life, MFM and some pentecostals doesn't celebrate the same Christmas you mentioned?
The same Deeper Life doesn't celebrate birthdays. Are you aware of that?

Now, you're asking what I know about love? Lol!

Guy, just forget. It's too early to be arguing over nothing.

Since you're happy with what you do, I don't have a problem with that. I'll only have a problem with you if you're unhappy and you keep doing it
why did you not answer my question about love. these churches you mention that do not celebrate anything do you know what they have in common? NO LOVE. I won't go deep about that but I know you know that these churches you mentioned don't believe in sharing and they hate their enemies yet they said they read the Bible but never came across where Christ whom we Christians coded our religion after (Christ like), Christ said love your enemies and pray for them Matthew 5:54. but instead they pray that their enemies should die. tell me how will the love to celebrate Xmas, Valentine ,birthday and so on.
what do you know about love. use your Bible to back it up before you challenge a Catholic
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Mpanyi: 10:00am On Feb 14, 2018
Don't understand the ranting. Are you sure you are a catholic?
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Ubenedictus(m): 10:03am On Feb 14, 2018
INDUSTRIALFAN:
nothing o...
the is no such thing as a stay at home Catholic.

this is Lent, make it part of lent to begin going to Church again
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by myproperty(m): 10:08am On Feb 14, 2018
Empredboy:
you said Catholics joined Pentecostal through charismatic? please do you know about Holy Ghost priest or Holy Ghost school? these are just a branch of the church. just as Paul teaches differently from other apostle but saying the same meaning that's how Holy priest does which gave birth to charismatic. this charismatic has being there long before the Pentecostal. what do you think you know about the bible that makes you feel a Catholic can't discuss with you? please tell me
The charismatic movement was not there long before pentecostal movement. The charismatic movement started when 2 American prof when to a prayer meeting( 1966) and got babtized in holy spirit and went back to their chapel and started laying hands(1967) and the movement started to spread while pentecostal movement grew out of holiness revival in the 2nd half of 19th century and became an outbreak in 1901. So please.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by freshboi88: 10:09am On Feb 14, 2018
MrMcJay:


I guess the meaning of my post flew over your head.

According to the unintelligent post by the OP, protestant celebrate Valentine's day more than Catholics. I don't know how he came about that drunken assertion.

As to all the saints you're celebrating, that's your religious belief. I don't have problems with them. If you like celebrate the birthday of Judas Iscariot, once it makes you happy, that's fine by me.

I don't c catholic churches arranging programs, talk and seminars on valentine . which denomination is known for that??
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Empredboy(m): 10:15am On Feb 14, 2018
myproperty:

The charismatic movement was not there long before pentecostal movement. The charismatic movement started when 2 American prof when to a prayer meeting( 1966) and got babtized in holy spirit and went back to their chapel and started laying hands(1967) and the movement started to spread while pentecostal movement grew out of holiness revival in the 2nd half of 19th century and became an outbreak in 1901. So please.
seriously I dont understand. but what do you know about love? the churches you mentioned how is their relationship with bible in the teaching of Christ about what to do to enemies?
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by WorldRichest: 10:15am On Feb 14, 2018
I am a Muslim. When I see topic like this, I laugh. Why so much division among us? Inter-religious and intra-religious. Is this God's plan for us.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by joe02(m): 10:18am On Feb 14, 2018
Psoul:


So u slept and woke up, tot about this and finally got urself convinced to put this kind of thing online. Bros, i belive u weren't in sound mind before writing this.

Are u fighting for Catholic Church or for Christ?
U are too small to fight for any of the above. Ur write up is i divisive one and shouldn't come from a Christian. U are just trying to ridcule the Body of Christ.

Be it known to you that St. Valentine did nt do what he
did cos he was a Catholic Priest. He did is because he was a Christian. So please be reasonable in your posts. If a Christian did anything good, irrespective of

denomination, Christians all over the world will celebrate
him and be proud of Christ the more and not just
particularizing it to one denomination.

I'm disappointed with ur post


Best write up ....you made a good point bro
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by yeanka007: 10:18am On Feb 14, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
This is one of the reasons I'm convinced Christianity is false and Holy Spirit is fictional cuz Christians can't agree on anything despite talking to the same holy spirit who is promised that it'll reveal the real truth to them

From the very beginning, Christians have split and diverged and disagreed about matters of extreme consequence, and matters that seem (on the face of it) totally trivial. For close to 1,500 years the chief hobby of Christendom seemed to be finding reasons to murder other Christians, and to this day thousands of Christian variations exist, many of which are utterly incompatible and "heretical" to each other's point of view. From Arianism to "Mariolotry", from thefilioque, to anti-trinitarian Oneness Pentecostalism, from hardline Feeneyism to Christian Universalism, from Quietism to televangelists ... any doctrinal standpoint held by one Christian group is guaranteed to be held in contempt by other (ostensibly) fellow Christians.

Yet every last one of them bows their knees before the Father, every last one of them believes that Christ dwells in their hearts and that they are strengthened by the power of this Spirit. Every last one of them"knows" that they are correct and everyone else is wrong. They alone are "filled up by the fullness of God." They can "feel it in their hearts".

"By their fruits you will know them," wrote the unknown author(s) of the book we call Matthew, and those words are quite right. The fruits of Christianity have always been discord among themselves, dehumanization of others and mutual persecution over whatever passes for heresy at that time and place. "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit" applies wonderfully to Christianity. By that very standard, the tree of Christianity is rotten to the core and more prickly than a cactus. It is evident and obvious that there is no "still, small voice" guiding Christians, that the Bible is wrong when it promises to reveal the truth to believers ... because regardless of one's belief, there are millions upon millions of other Christians who are convinced of that belief's incorrectness, convinced that the Holy Spirit has lit their path to truth (and likely think said "heretics" deserve eternal punishment to boot despite the fact that they are all supplicants to the same Lord).

This things happen a lot in religion settings, what do you expect when people claim that they are sure and can die for "a story book" written years back.

Religion is all about competition, things like this happens and will continue to happen, not only in the Christian world but in almost all other religions including Islam.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by myproperty(m): 10:22am On Feb 14, 2018
Empredboy:
why did you not answer my question about love. these churches you mention that do not celebrate anything do you know what they have in common? NO LOVE. I won't go deep about that but I know you know that these churches you mentioned don't believe in sharing and they hate their enemies yet they said they read the Bible but never came across where Christ whom we Christians coded our religion after (Christ like), Christ said love your enemies and pray for them Matthew 5:54. but instead they pray that their enemies should die. tell me how will the love to celebrate Xmas, Valentine ,birthday and so on.
what do you know about love. use your Bible to back it up before you challenge a Catholic
Hmm na wa. Some pentecostal share so celebrations with catholic you accused them of not liking catholic and not celebrating other saints but valentine and the ones that are not involve in that same idolatry you accused them of not having love. It is interesting you quoted the bible. Yet that portion was there when the pope and the catholic were comitting murder in the name of heresy during the dark age of Christianity orchestrated by the catholic in conjunction with the state ( was that a show of love?) but here you are condemning another church that has no gas chamber or guillotine but only pray against a perceived enemy or the spirit behind him. Hmm saint catholic
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by myproperty(m): 10:30am On Feb 14, 2018
Empredboy:
seriously I dont understand. but what do you know about love? the churches you mentioned how is their relationship with bible in the teaching of Christ about what to do to enemies?
Love? Did you say what the church know about love? At least there were not involve in the dark age murder of people who share different believe with the church or people who speak against the church doctrine. Where was the love?
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by fratermathy(m): 10:30am On Feb 14, 2018
careytommy7:
Nonsense. The person who composed this hogwash of an OP is definitely not a Christian

Please which pentecostal church celebrates valentine's day?

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Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Igweann979(f): 10:34am On Feb 14, 2018
dingbang:
Please don't start another e war please.. Even though I am a Catholic, I won't support this. You were taught not to judge.
But the OP is right that's just the fact
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by tartarus(m): 10:49am On Feb 14, 2018
Christians making a fool of themselves again. Lol typical cheesy grin
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Nobody: 10:51am On Feb 14, 2018
Hmmm this is why I hate religion. See how people here are defending their catholicism and protestantism. I'd rather focus on my relationship with Jesus and aim to please him rather than defend the doctrines of a particular church
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Empredboy(m): 10:53am On Feb 14, 2018
myproperty:

Love? Did you say what the church know about love? At least there were not involve in the dark age murder of people who share different believe with the church or people who speak against the church doctrine. Where was the love?
why are you deviating? who murdered who in those days? if Catholic murdered in those days as you said do you think they would have spread the gospel to the end of the earth? please where do you get this your information from? if Catholic did what you said do you think the church will still be alive till now? do you think the population will still be this high? remember what Christ promised to peter about his church. Matthew 16:18. tell me one religion that has remained like Catholics in population, ages and popularity? remember Peter "gate of hell won't prevail over it " abi is the church Christ promised dead or not existing again? or Christ lieing?
what happens to your church population and popularity when your GO dies? let me give you examples of some of your Pentecostal churches whose GO have dies.
BENSON IDAHOSA : founder church of God mission international Benin. after his death has the church done what Christ commanded to preach till the end of the earth? why is it still stagnant or is the church closed?
PASTOR BIMBO ODUKOYA : founder single and married. why is the program dead is the spirit out of the church just as the pastor died?
PASTOR AJANOKU :christ revival international ayobo. go to the church now and see for yourself.
in our time we have seen two popes 1st Pope John Paul 11 and Pope Benedict 16. now we have Pope Francis . has the church missed any of the above popes? no because Christ is our head. so another question for the is what happens when your GO dies? and what do you know about love
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Nobody: 10:59am On Feb 14, 2018
But then again this argument makes no sense. In this modern world, I dont think people (except Catholics) are aware of the origins of Valentines day. I rarely think of St Valentine when I think of Valentines day. People just recognise it as a day of showing love to others and not celebrating a particular saint. Muslims, atheists, agnostics celebrate valentines, and dont even know it originates from a catholic saint. So i dont think its valid you bringing the argument "pentecostals celebrate valentines..so theyre hypocritical".. cause everybody celebrates it basically.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Nobody: 11:02am On Feb 14, 2018
raymexx:
Hahahaha see ur argument, why don't u then celebrate many other Catholic saints who lived during your so called Universal church time. most of Catholic doctrines was made during that time, why don't u follow it. Mitcheeewwww

Who is st valentine?
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Nobody: 11:04am On Feb 14, 2018
GIBT:
Do Pentecostals now believe in sainthood?

People across all religions celebrate Valentines day. And i bet you most of them have zero idea it originates from a saint.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Nobody: 11:15am On Feb 14, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
This is one of the reasons I'm convinced Christianity is false and Holy Spirit is fictional cuz Christians can't agree on anything despite talking to the same holy spirit who is promised that it'll reveal the real truth to them

From the very beginning, Christians have split and diverged and disagreed about matters of extreme consequence, and matters that seem (on the face of it) totally trivial. For close to 1,500 years the chief hobby of Christendom seemed to be finding reasons to murder other Christians, and to this day thousands of Christian variations exist, many of which are utterly incompatible and "heretical" to each other's point of view. From Arianism to "Mariolotry", from thefilioque, to anti-trinitarian Oneness Pentecostalism, from hardline Feeneyism to Christian Universalism, from Quietism to televangelists ... any doctrinal standpoint held by one Christian group is guaranteed to be held in contempt by other (ostensibly) fellow Christians.

Yet every last one of them bows their knees before the Father, every last one of them believes that Christ dwells in their hearts and that they are strengthened by the power of this Spirit. Every last one of them"knows" that they are correct and everyone else is wrong. They alone are "filled up by the fullness of God." They can "feel it in their hearts".

"By their fruits you will know them," wrote the unknown author(s) of the book we call Matthew, and those words are quite right. The fruits of Christianity have always been discord among themselves, dehumanization of others and mutual persecution over whatever passes for heresy at that time and place. "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit" applies wonderfully to Christianity. By that very standard, the tree of Christianity is rotten to the core and more prickly than a cactus. It is evident and obvious that there is no "still, small voice" guiding Christians, that the Bible is wrong when it promises to reveal the truth to believers ... because regardless of one's belief, there are millions upon millions of other Christians who are convinced of that belief's incorrectness, convinced that the Holy Spirit has lit their path to truth (and likely think said "heretics" deserve eternal punishment to boot despite the fact that they are all supplicants to the same Lord).
Stalin killed between 20-60 million in about 10 years, while Catholic church killed less than 5000 heretics in 200 years. Hitler's NAZI party is a communist party...Penticostals killed zero because of their believe so far
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Nobody: 11:27am On Feb 14, 2018
Empredboy:
why are you deviating? who murdered who in those days? if Catholic murdered in those days as you said do you think they would have spread the gospel to the end of the earth? please where do you get this your information from? if Catholic did what you said do you think the church will still be alive till now? do you think the population will still be this high? remember what Christ promised to peter about his church. Matthew 16:18. tell me one religion that has remained like Catholics in population, ages and popularity? remember Peter "gate of hell won't prevail over it " abi is the church Christ promised dead or not existing again? or Christ lieing?
what happens to your church population and popularity when your GO dies? let me give you examples of some of your Pentecostal churches whose GO have dies.
BENSON IDAHOSA : founder church of God mission international Benin. after his death has the church done what Christ commanded to preach till the end of the earth? why is it still stagnant or is the church closed?
PASTOR BIMBO ODUKOYA : founder single and married. why is the program dead is the spirit out of the church just as the pastor died?
PASTOR AJANOKU :christ revival international ayobo. go to the church now and see for yourself.
in our time we have seen two popes 1st Pope John Paul 11 and Pope Benedict 16. now we have Pope Francis . has the church missed any of the above popes? no because Christ is our head. so another question for the is what happens when your GO dies? and what do you know about love
How old are you?
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by EvieP: 11:29am On Feb 14, 2018
super story....


politics in Christianity. I am a Pentecostal and the only celebration that my church recognises is *Easter*.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by myproperty(m): 11:30am On Feb 14, 2018
Empredboy:
why are you deviating? who murdered who in those days? if Catholic murdered in those days as you said do you think they would have spread the gospel to the end of the earth? please where do you get this your information from? if Catholic did what you said do you think the church will still be alive till now? do you think the population will still be this high? remember what Christ promised to peter about his church. Matthew 16:18. tell me one religion that has remained like Catholics in population, ages and popularity? remember Peter "gate of hell won't prevail over it " abi is the church Christ promised dead or not existing again? or Christ lieing?
what happens to your church population and popularity when your GO dies? let me give you examples of some of your Pentecostal churches whose GO have dies.
BENSON IDAHOSA : founder church of God mission international Benin. after his death has the church done what Christ commanded to preach till the end of the earth? why is it still stagnant or is the church closed?
PASTOR BIMBO ODUKOYA : founder single and married. why is the program dead is the spirit out of the church just as the pastor died?
PASTOR AJANOKU :christ revival international ayobo. go to the church now and see for yourself.
in our time we have seen two popes 1st Pope John Paul 11 and Pope Benedict 16. now we have Pope Francis . has the church missed any of the above popes? no because Christ is our head. so another question for the is what happens when your GO dies? and what do you know about love

Hmmm. You don't even know the history of your church and you talking others. Go and find out about your church first before coming online and condemning others because they are not catholic. Am I surprise? No! Why? So it happens when people have contrary view on the catholic church in time past they have to be killed and burnt. Yes killed. Go find out what the church did to Jan Hus a Czech priest, go find out what they did to Tyndale. The horror the church committed in the days of the catholic inquisition. The number of matyrs the church killed. Martin Luther escaped it after many attempts attempts (thanks to then king of Germany who gave him protection) go and read and know the history of your church first.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by tobis4christ: 11:44am On Feb 14, 2018
PLEASE LOOK AT THIS WRITE-UP WITH UNDERSTANDING...

Who is St.valentine? This day means
the day they commemorate the roman catholic priest
who died for his beliefs and wrote a carnal letter
to little damsel that he loved her.St.Valentine
originate from two of the most sexually
perverted pagan festivals of ancient
history:LUPERCALIA AND THE FEAST DAY OF
JUNO FEBRUATA.St.Valentine day is another
attempt of Pope Gelasius in A.D 496 to
"whitewash" or cover-up perverted customs and
observances of pagan gods and idols by
"christianizing" them as innocent and harmless
as St.Valentine day may appear,its traditions and
customs originate from sexually perverted pagan
festivals.On february 14 billets(small pieces of
paper,each of which had the name of a teen-
aged girl written on it)were put into a
container.Teen-aged boys would then choose
one billet at random.The boy and the girl whose
name was drawn would become a "couple."
Joining in erotic games at feast and parties
celebrated throughout rome.After the
festival,they would remain sexual partners for
rest of the year.This custom was observed in the
roman empire for centuries.It was until A.D 496
that the church at rome was able to do anything
about LUPERCALIA,when Pope Gelasius changed
it from february 15 to 14th and called it
St.valentine's day.It was name after one of that
roman catholic priests,who in A.D 270,was
executed by the emperor for his beliefs.Instead
of puting the names of girls into a box,the names
of St.valentine were drawn by both boys and
girls.It was then each person duty to emulate
the life of the roman catholism priest whose
name he or she had drawn.This was roman vain
attempt to "whitewash" a pagan observance by
"christianizing" it,which God has not given man
the power or authority to do.Are christians to
emulate roman catholism priests?GOD forbid!We
must emulate our master Jesus.Apostle paul
says "follow me as i follow Christ(1cor11:1).You
can call a "dog a lion"but the fact remain dog is
not a lion.You can say u are commemoratin the
roman catholism priest,but the fact remain you
are worshipin and commemoratin Lupercus and
Juno februata.The doctrines of men are not
acceptable unto God
(DEUT18:9.JEREM10:3.MARK7:7-cool.GOD IS
LOVE(1JOHN4:8,16)Love must be our dearly
practice not seasoning practice like lupercalia
and juno februata(St.valentine day).Anyting you
do in the name of St.valentine is erotic and not
acceptable to God.Bible says "If I give all i
posses to the poor and surrender my body to
flames,but have not love,I gain nothing... Let us keep on loving each other as
brothers,not conditional love of february 14th.
(Hebrew13:1).Bible says "My people are
destroyed from lack of knowledge."Because you
have rejected knowledge,I also reject you as my
priests;because you have ignored the law of your
God,I also will ignore your children."Hosea4:6.D­
early beloved,seek the truth today and free from
bondage of religion.Any teaching that is out of
harmony with the word of God or which
contradicts the plain teaching of scripture we
must label as erroneous and fable.St valentine
celebration is contraditcting the scripture and we
must label it as fable and vain
celebration.Stephen and Jame was martyr and
no celebration did apostles made to
commemorate them.May God help us to see our
blind spots and prejudices when it comes to
approaching the scriptures.Amen. Mark 16:15- down, Matt. 28:16-down. Matt. 16:13-18. JESUS IS OUR
GENERAL SUPERINTENDENT. The COC welcomes you for further studies. You can send a message via the email.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Psoul(m): 11:49am On Feb 14, 2018
joe02:



Best write up ....you made a good point bro

Thanks my dear. May God bless you
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Ubenedictus(m): 12:11pm On Feb 14, 2018
transformed:
Stalin killed between 20-60 million in about 10 years, while Catholic church killed less than 5000 heretics in 200 years. Hitler's NAZI party is a communist party...Penticostals killed zero because of their believe so far
and Protestants killed 57,000 Catholics in 12 years
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Nowenuse: 12:18pm On Feb 14, 2018
CAPSLOCKED:






YOU DON'T FIND OTHER RELIGIONS BEATING EACH OTHER UP LIKE THIS.

YOU KNOW WHY?


CHRISTIANITY IS THE MOST CONTRADICTORY RELIGION.

HOW CAN YOU BLAME THE CHRISTIAN DENOMINATION FOR NOT AGREEING ON A THING TOGETHER, WHEN EVEN THE GOSPEL WRITERS COULDN'T AGREE ON THE STORY OF JESUS.

ALL OF THEM HAVE CONTRADICTORY ACCOUNTS FOR THAT. FUNNY ENOUGH LUKE ALONE CONTRADICTS HIS OWN SELF WITH DISAGREEING STATEMENTS IN HIS BOOK, JUST FEW VERSES APART cheesy


ABEG JUST LEAVE CHRISTIANS ALONE WHEN THEY'RE NOT SPEWING THEIR POISON ON YOUR FACE.

At least, Christians are not killing each other till date, unlike Shia & Sunni muslim sectarian differences.
Re: Pentecostals Bash Catholics Yet They Celebrate Valentine The Most by Ubenedictus(m): 12:21pm On Feb 14, 2018
myproperty:


Hmmm. You don't even know the history of your church and you talking others. Go and find out about your church first before coming online and condemning others because they are not catholic. Am I surprise? No! Why? So it happens when people have contrary view on the catholic church in time past they have to be killed and burnt. Yes killed. Go find out what the church did to Jan Hus a Czech priest, go find out what they did to Tyndale. The horror the church committed in the days of the catholic inquisition. The number of matyrs the church killed. Martin Luther escaped it after many attempts attempts (thanks to then king of Germany who gave him protection) go and read and know the history of your church first.
Tyndale was killed by Protestants under Henry viii, Jan Hus was condemned for heresy by the Catholic Church but was delivered to the state, the state sentenced him and executed him according to the law.


what are you crying about?

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