The banality of some things Christians make a fuss over is just astonishing.

myproperty:

You mean there was pentecostal church during the time of mary? Drop lies and sentiment that is beclouded bt your church traditions. Even a toddler in pentecostal church knows that there is nothing like pentecostal church nor Christianity in the times of Mary.

I guess you saw the (?) question mark. proudly a Catholic

INDUSTRIALFAN:
lol... I'm waiting to see how this pans out.... PROUDLY CATHOLIC (though it's been a while I went to church)...

weytin do u, y u Neva go Church

What's my own with Valentine, Easter and Christmas and any other Christianized idolatry?

Ogashub:
A typical Nigerian non Catholic who is drained with his or her own church doctrine will wear red tomorrow and majestically walk into her or his lover's house to wish him happy valentines day.

But every other thing about the catholic doctrine is paganized by you and your church folks.

Y'all have suddenly forgotten that Valentine is a saint In the catholic world that is usually celebrated every 14th of February, just like other catholic saints.

But tomorrow you will come online and tell us how Catholics worship Mary, you get angry when she is being celebrated. But Tomorrow, you will be buying gifts in the name of valentine.

All the Pentecostal churches that bash the catholic doctrines and saints are the ones who will even celebrate the valentine the most.

But there you are, saying you know so much about Christianity.

Now, tell me that saint valentine is a saint in your own church, I am listening, how?

Both the Catholic Church and the other churches are false churches. The Catholic Church is the Whoree of Babylon mentioned in the Book of Revelation and it is a pity that the traditions of the evil Catholic Church is what is called Christianity today. Your Church has turned the Bible on its head and sadly the rest of the Christian world follows sheepishly.

femi4:
Get your facts right, Pentecostal don't celebrate Val's day

Forgive me, brother. But you are a pathetic liar.

Ogashub:
A typical Nigerian non Catholic who is drained with his or her own church doctrine will wear red tomorrow and majestically walk into her or his lover's house to wish him happy valentines day.

But every other thing about the catholic doctrine is paganized by you and your church folks.

Y'all have suddenly forgotten that Valentine is a saint In the catholic world that is usually celebrated every 14th of February, just like other catholic saints.

But tomorrow you will come online and tell us how Catholics worship Mary, you get angry when she is being celebrated. But Tomorrow, you will be buying gifts in the name of valentine.

All the Pentecostal churches that bash the catholic doctrines and saints are the ones who will even celebrate the valentine the most.

But there you are, saying you know so much about Christianity.

Now, tell me that saint valentine is a saint in your own church, I am listening, how?

What's my own with Valentine, Easter and Christmas and other Christianized idolateries?

dingbang:
even in the Catholic church, there are members who still roll with the modern valentine way of celebration, So let's not act like saints. Yes we all know St Valentine "as we were taught" was a saint bla bla bla who was known for his acts of love.

Its unfortunate things have turned around but that doesn't mean we shouldn't celebrate love. We spend a lot of our energy criticizing others instead of leading by example. If u feel that Val's day to you means showing love to the poor then do it instead of pointing fingers on those who are living their lives the way they want it.

Your point is crystal clear, but the Thread Poster's point is that, non-catholic should stop criticizing the Catholics, even after criticizing, yet they stylishly practice what they do. I think that's what he is trying to say.

AkunnaTochi:
Forgive me, brother. But you are a pathetic liar.

show proof now, don't just say what you don't know. Is it Redeem, MFM, Deeper life or Winners, go ahead and name the church

Pentecostal teachings are scriptural based, we are not like Catholic that follows traditions/religion

Empredboy:
if we are to follow only what the bible says, are we to celebrate anything at all? after all there is no Xmas celebration, or birthday. so what's special about today if I may ask you. what do Valentine means to you if we are to take it like a day set aside like Mother's Day, Teacher's day. what does Valentine day means to you? please forget Catholics or Pentecostal matter. I want to know what you know about love. remember people are reading our post.

Do you know Deeper Life, MFM and some pentecostals doesn't celebrate the same Christmas you mentioned?
The same Deeper Life doesn't celebrate birthdays. Are you aware of that?

Now, you're asking what I know about love? Lol!

Guy, just forget. It's too early to be arguing over nothing.

Since you're happy with what you do, I don't have a problem with that. I'll only have a problem with you if you're unhappy and you keep doing it

hopefulLandlord:
This is one of the reasons I'm convinced Christianity is false and Holy Spirit is fictional cuz Christians can't agree on anything despite talking to the same holy spirit who is promised that it'll reveal the real truth to them

From the very beginning, Christians have split and diverged and disagreed about matters of extreme consequence, and matters that seem (on the face of it) totally trivial. For close to 1,500 years the chief hobby of Christendom seemed to be finding reasons to murder other Christians, and to this day thousands of Christian variations exist, many of which are utterly incompatible and "heretical" to each other's point of view. From Arianism to "Mariolotry", from thefilioque, to anti-trinitarian Oneness Pentecostalism, from hardline Feeneyism to Christian Universalism, from Quietism to televangelists ... any doctrinal standpoint held by one Christian group is guaranteed to be held in contempt by other (ostensibly) fellow Christians.

Yet every last one of them bows their knees before the Father, every last one of them believes that Christ dwells in their hearts and that they are strengthened by the power of this Spirit. Every last one of them"knows" that they are correct and everyone else is wrong. They alone are "filled up by the fullness of God." They can "feel it in their hearts".

"By their fruits you will know them," wrote the unknown author(s) of the book we call Matthew, and those words are quite right. The fruits of Christianity have always been discord among themselves, dehumanization of others and mutual persecution over whatever passes for heresy at that time and place. "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit" applies wonderfully to Christianity. By that very standard, the tree of Christianity is rotten to the core and more prickly than a cactus. It is evident and obvious that there is no "still, small voice" guiding Christians, that the Bible is wrong when it promises to reveal the truth to believers ... because regardless of one's belief, there are millions upon millions of other Christians who are convinced of that belief's incorrectness, convinced that the Holy Spirit has lit their path to truth (and likely think said "heretics" deserve eternal punishment to boot despite the fact that they are all supplicants to the same Lord).

It was the Roman Catholic Church that created the false Christianity we have today. I believe in the Word of God but not in this false Christianity that is a total perversion of the gospel of my Lord Jesus Christ.

Empredboy:
why then are you following the Catholic tradition?

Same way as the catholics have imbibed pentecostal ideology(charismatic) some pentecostal also have imbibed catholic traditions ( note not all pentecostal). But the problem is the Catholics don't and won't even dare discuss Biblical issues but very comfortable to discuss their traditions.
Any one be it a pentecostal or catholic that adds or subtracts from the "word" should read this instead of praising and upholding idolatry - Deut 12:32 ; Rev 12: 18-19

femi4:
show proof now, don't just say what you don't know. Is it Redeem, MFM, Deeper life or Winners, go ahead and name the church

Pentecostal teachings are scriptural based, we are not like Catholic that follows traditions/religion

https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php%3Fstory_fbid%3D719743364828983%26id%3D523149131155075&ved=2ahUKEwiqlKe2-KTZAhUSLFAKHVioCTUQFjAEegQIDxAB&usg=AOvVaw2CXRH0QP6qC2vF0nSWf0aq that's the prove

AkunnaTochi:

Most protestants, especially pentecostals, do not acknowledge canonized saints of the Catholic Church including those who lived before, during and after the days of Father Valentine.

That is their cup of tea spurn from ignorance. However, they have acknowledged Father Valentine so they are still brothers.

The question is, why is Father Valentine celebrated by Catholics and non Catholics. Why is his case different and why do the Protestants/Pentecostals stick with the Catholic date of February 14?

It's simple!
Everyone want to love and to be loved.

Love is something meant for everyone whether they are catholic or Protestants

MrMcJay:


Do you know Deeper Life, MFM and some pentecostals doesn't celebrate the same Christmas you mentioned?
The same Deeper Life doesn't celebrate birthdays. Are you aware of that?

Now, you're asking what I know about love? Lol!

Guy, just forget. It's too early to be arguing over nothing.

Since you're happy with what you do, I don't have a problem with that. I'll only have a problem with you if you're unhappy and you keep doing it

please talk about what you know of love? only Jehovah witness don't celebrate anything.

femi4:
show proof now, don't just say what you don't know. Is it Redeem, MFM, Deeper life or Winners, go ahead and name the church

Pentecostal teachings are scriptural based, we are not like Catholic that follows traditions/religion

LOL
Pentecostal Churches may not have the feast of St. Valentine in their liturgical Calendar. Of course they do not have one. But pentecostals celebrate St. Valentine's day. As a matter of fact, I belong to a Pentecostal Church group on Whatsapp that'll be having a Valentine's day programme, this evening.

Your teachings are scriptural you say, yet you all are as divided as the ethnic groups in Nigeria.
I guess Nairaland is Scripture based too.
Scriptural Christian!

kolawoleibukun:
Pentecostals are the worst of their kind. They are criminals who feel they are better than anyone else. they feel say them no the Bible. they condemn Catholics yet they practice almost everything that the catholics do. anyone way no favor them, them go use am against the catholics. though, the catholics get some issues but I tell you, if the Pentecostals had the kind of power that catholics have, they would have destroyed this world.
Imagine Adeboye publicly demanding 1 billion as if he created job anywhere. all dem day buy private jet and if person talk, instead of them to call these thieves to order them go support them. Obasanjo won buy plane early 2000 na so Nigerians gather a whole president make e no buy plane, but now all the pastors get plane and the same hypocrites support them. open your mouth and condemn the evil


you have no convenant with any man but with God. tell a man that he is wrong and God will bless you for it. even if that man is your father. stand with God not man.



there is nothing like man of God. We all are children of God. No man is above his mate. draw a man to his sense and you will save him and save yourself. do not support evil or any man. all these prayer warriors who cannot talk in front of their daddies and they will be shouting and stamping their feet before other people.

Hahahaha. Honestly bro, the spirit has just spoken through you and your words of truth and wisdom. Adeboye is by far a very shameless thief! Not only has he not created any job anywhere but by asking a person to donate 1 billion, and by so arrogantly put, he does nothing but encourage thievery! There's is no self-made multibillionaire that would give any thief of a pastor 1 billion of his hard earned naira, (he'd rather feed the poor I'm sure of this), so where are those giving Adeboye billion nairas getting it from? Oh I forgot, jona alone gave 7 billion, and we are still suffering cus of our leaders stealing our common patrimony to pls the rogues in Adeboye and oyedescam! They are lucky I'm not the president of this shïit hole country, I'd kill them all! Imagine people stealing in the name of the lord without conscience?! Oyakilohme is yet to return the millions stolen from Sheraton hotels by his member who was Sheraton staff and given to Oyakilohme, knowing fully well it was proceeds of crime. Honestly there's no government in this shiït hole country.

Wonder why some are so stupid to sit down and wrote all this nonsense and even their other brothers dey say pentecostal are hyprocrites, are u guys not ashamed of ur self if its other people like atheist or muslim saying this what look will u say or what stands are u going to claim.... I just pity u guys because of jealousy they didn't even mandate it for ur own father not to use jet abi dem ban it for you why brought pentcostal man of God into this for christ sake.....una dey craze did u even here what I said una dey craze and what doctrine did u heard from us that we shouldn't show love to others on love day pls can u say that with prove

darlingtonNYIG:
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php%3Fstory_fbid%3D719743364828983%26id%3D523149131155075&ved=2ahUKEwiqlKe2-KTZAhUSLFAKHVioCTUQFjAEegQIDxAB&usg=AOvVaw2CXRH0QP6qC2vF0nSWf0aq that's the prove

Check their logo, that Church is not affiliated with winners chapel. So many hungry churches in the East with funny doctrine

myproperty:


Same way as the catholics have imbibed pentecostal ideology(charismatic) some pentecostal also have imbibed catholic traditions ( note not all pentecostal). But the problem is the Catholics don't and won't even dare discuss Biblical issues but very comfortable to discuss their traditions.
Any one be it a pentecostal or catholic that adds or subtracts from the "word" should read this instead of praising and upholding idolatry - Deut 12:32 ; Rev 12: 18-19

you said Catholics joined Pentecostal through charismatic? please do you know about Holy Ghost priest or Holy Ghost school? these are just a branch of the church. just as Paul teaches differently from other apostle but saying the same meaning that's how Holy priest does which gave birth to charismatic. this charismatic has being there long before the Pentecostal. what do you think you know about the bible that makes you feel a Catholic can't discuss with you? please tell me

wunmi590:


Don't mind them all, come rain, come shine, I would forever remain a Catholic

Catholic will not save anyone, Winner chapel wil not save anyone, Redeem church will not save any one.

Salvation, Deliverance, Righteousness, Life, Wisdom and Understanding is found in only one Fountain, and "JESUS CHRIST" is that Fountain.

Deal wisely.

All penticostal churches is an offshoot of Catholic teaching about God.
Sunday worship,Bible etc.
Had it been that Catholic church keep saturday as day of worship, sunday will not be what is it today. Most pastors that talk ill of Catholic church are just doing it to keep their members.
There is always rivary anywhere humans gather, in muslim world sunnis and shias,amahdiyyas kill and bomb each other as a result of doctrine differences.

Empredboy:
did the Bible emphasize the celebration of anything like Xmas or Valentine? what if St Valentine never existed because his name is not in the bible? after all you only follow what is written in the bible. please leave Catholics matter and follow only what your Bible says

both Catholic and Pentecostal does not celebrate Valentine, neither do both follow the principle of st Valentine.

Beside does Catholic practice another Bible or another Christ?

Or is it not the same God and Christ we are serving?

Na una sabi jare.

Empredboy:
you said Catholics joined Pentecostal through charismatic? please do you know about Holy Ghost priest or Holy Ghost school? these are just a branch of the church. just as Paul teaches differently from other apostle but saying the same meaning that's how Holy priest does which gave birth to charismatic. this charismatic has being there long before the Pentecostal. what do you think you know about the bible that makes you feel a Catholic can't discuss with you? please tell me

You lie about the charismatic movement in the catholic church. Why then do the conservetive catholic condemn or want them to leave

raymexx:
Hahahaha see ur argument, why don't u then celebrate many other Catholic saints who lived during your so called Universal church time. most of Catholic doctrines was made during that time, why don't u follow it. Mitcheeewwww

The saints are so much, they all deserved to be celebrated but valentine's case was a unique one. And celebrating past saints is something optional and not mandatory even to Catholics, therefore there is no point being fundamentalistic over the issue.

Ogashub:
A typical Nigerian non Catholic who is drained with his or her own church doctrine will wear red tomorrow and majestically walk into her or his lover's house to wish him happy valentines day.

But every other thing about the catholic doctrine is paganized by you and your church folks.

Y'all have suddenly forgotten that Valentine is a saint In the catholic world that is usually celebrated every 14th of February, just like other catholic saints.

But tomorrow you will come online and tell us how Catholics worship Mary, you get angry when she is being celebrated. But Tomorrow, you will be buying gifts in the name of valentine.

All the Pentecostal churches that bash the catholic doctrines and saints are the ones who will even celebrate the valentine the most.

But there you are, saying you know so much about Christianity.

Now, tell me that saint valentine is a saint in your own church, I am listening, how?

U just want to cause wahala..useless post

Ogashub:
A typical Nigerian non Catholic who is drained with his or her own church doctrine will wear red tomorrow and majestically walk into her or his lover's house to wish him happy valentines day.

But every other thing about the catholic doctrine is paganized by you and your church folks.

Y'all have suddenly forgotten that Valentine is a saint In the catholic world that is usually celebrated every 14th of February, just like other catholic saints.

But tomorrow you will come online and tell us how Catholics worship Mary, you get angry when she is being celebrated. But Tomorrow, you will be buying gifts in the name of valentine.

All the Pentecostal churches that bash the catholic doctrines and saints are the ones who will even celebrate the valentine the most.

But there you are, saying you know so much about Christianity.

Now, tell me that saint valentine is a saint in your own church, I am listening, how?

So u slept and woke up, tot about this and finally got urself convinced to put this kind of thing online. Bros, i belive u weren't in sound mind before writing this.

Are u fighting for Catholic Church or for Christ?
U are too small to fight for any of the above. Ur write up is a divisive one and shouldn't come from a Christian. U are just trying to ridicule the Body of Christ.

Be it known to you that St. Valentine did nt do what he did cos he was a Catholic Priest. He did it because he was a Christian. So please be reasonable in your posts. If a Christian did anything good, irrespective of denomination, Christians all over the world will celebrate him and be proud of Christ the more and not just particularizing it to one denomination.

I'm disappointed with ur post

Empredboy:
but there was Pentecostal and protestants during the time of Mary and other saints? please explain

No!
Martin Luther started Protestant reformation from Roman catholism at 1517. That is, about 14 centuries after Mary and other saints of her time must have died.
The bottomline is, Protestants are still part of the church, only that they have let down most catholic traditions and move on.

kolawoleibukun:
Pentecostals are the worst of their kind. They are criminals who feel they are better than anyone else. they feel say them no the Bible. they condemn Catholics yet they practice almost everything that the catholics do. anyone way no favor them, them go use am against the catholics. though, the catholics get some issues but I tell you, if the Pentecostals had the kind of power that catholics have, they would have destroyed this world.
Imagine Adeboye publicly demanding 1 billion as if he created job anywhere. all dem day buy private jet and if person talk, instead of them to call these thieves to order them go support them. Obasanjo won buy plane early 2000 na so Nigerians gather a whole president make e no buy plane, but now all the pastors get plane and the same hypocrites support them. open your mouth and condemn the evil


you have no convenant with any man but with God. tell a man that he is wrong and God will bless you for it. even if that man is your father. stand with God not man.



there is nothing like man of God. We all are children of God. No man is above his mate. draw a man to his sense and you will save him and save yourself. do not support evil or any man. all these prayer warriors who cannot talk in front of their daddies and they will be shouting and stamping their feet before other people.

Good morning.
I would like to hope you woke up on the right side of your bed.

First off, the church as it is obtained in Nigeria is fraudulent and deceptive according to their strengths and popularity.

You said Pentecostals are criminals. Do you have any prove of that other social media image battery?

You are a greater version of what you say others are because you say there is nothing like man of God and that all men are equal.
Why then do you call your fellow man "father"? Sometimes they are younger than you and yet determine what you processes should be.
As far as I am concerned, churches in Nigeria are products of its congregation and to an extent its leaders.

How can you adeboye demanded for money and at the same time hide the fact that your "fathers" demand so too by proxy?

Come to think of it, a young and vibrant man, goes to the seminary and comes out a ready made man because:
he will never work
he will enjoy perks that rich people do
he will own a car courtesy of the sheeple
he will leave in a duplex with domestic staff
he is not married but has a degree in guidance and counselling for the reconciliation of married people
he becomes a saint whose sins are hidden with precision and strategic stupidity.

I rest my case.(for now)

All the lies pentecostal churches told us then that catholic isnt a bible-believing church, we neva knew it was a strategy of increasing their tithes.....

myproperty:

You lie about the charismatic movement in the catholic church. Why then do the conservetive catholic condemn or want them to leave

the church never wanted to leave because they have the highest members in the church. what the church did was to control their activities because their members began to increase over time and they saw their meetings important than the mass. my bro go and check how the charismatic do their things now and compare to how they were in the 80s or 90s. did you know that they started having program outside the church using the church to lure members at that time? that was how catholic watchman and lords choosen came up. these two church are over 25 years