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Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by phaamsaam: 1:39pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
josef1:Only in Nigeria is that thought process allowed, please don't go out of the shores of Nigeria and spill that thrash, because epl makes money for beer parlour and soccer showing houses, how does that transcend to quality of football football on the pitch... Route one farmers league with police football and a noisy press backed by sky money and foreign owners wealth |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by phaamsaam: 1:45pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
The superiority complex between the Premier League and La Liga has once again resurfaced. Simon Kjær of Sevilla last week said that "La Liga is the best league in the world. So far I have only played against the smaller teams in Spain and they are all really good and play great football. I sometimes doubt certain teams in England are that good". Does he have a point or is he having a laugh? To help answer that question, we've enlisted the help of stat experts. Originally a method to rate and rank chess players, the Elo system has since been adapted to a host of other sports – including football. The basic principle of the Elo system is that the difference in ratings between two opposing teams provide a prediction for the result of a fixture. At the end of the game, the rating is updated based on the result; it increases if a team performed better than expected, and decreases if the performance was worse (for more explanation) for the dude who talked about players opinion, that's one for you |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by phaamsaam: 1:47pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
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Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by iluvpomo(m): 1:57pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
mikron:Sevilla is a small team na .... a team like Man U should have finished them off. Mou f’ked up massively I agree. Now unfortunately this will further add fuel to the narrative that EPL teams are crap on the European stage ... Yes, my Chelsea are done in UCL. I’m being realistic with our current form. |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by Nobody: 2:06pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
phaamsaam:Ur level of understanding is below the lowest point I can descend, sorry we shouldn't be discussing same topic 2geda, u will never follow with rhyme if Uefa is what u can use to glorify Laliga. 1 Like |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by iluvpomo(m): 2:08pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
phaamsaam:Why you de abuse persin like that ?? I agree, La Liga is a more technical league. The EPL though provides more entertainment albeit slightly lower quality footy. The EPL also has better parity in terms of league revenue/ wealth distribution giving the “smaller teams” a fighting chance ... ([url=http://globalsportssalaries.com/GSSS%202017.pdf]see data[/url]). EPL does a better job marketing and that is why they are consistently number 1 in TV ratings globally. |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by Nobody: 2:15pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
phaamsaam:so the US is in Nigeria? Asia is in Nigeria? Spain and italians follow Epl do u knw dat? One they are saying one thing u are saying anoda thing. La Liga is a boring league, u can't even put on ur tv dat u wan2 watch a match btw ATM and Bilbao, but u can always look forward to watching Arsenal vs Hotspurs. Dat is d superiority we are talking about. 1 Like |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by Nobody: 2:16pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
ClintonNzedimma:u are welcome. |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by Nobody: 2:24pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
phaamsaam:so u are more observative than the foreign owners an sky sport? Are more advanced in thinking than the press? If u are talking abt real quality, watch the brazilian league and tell us abt d flair and quality on show there, can u ever compare that with la liga? Yet it is boring to watch same as La Liga, Epl is watched more in Asia, America, Europe than in Africa. I guess u have never travelled out that is why. 1 Like |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by iliyande(m): 2:59pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
iluvpomo: Now someone is making sense... Yes, epl is above Laliga in marketing strategy, but in terms of field work/techniques, epl is still struggling to catch up with Laliga. |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by STILESGANG: 3:02pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
mvem:Bayern failed under giardialo,They couldn't win a ucl trophy in 3 seasons.They were deadly under jupp heynches.And he is back.Giardialo is too predictable |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by mvem(m): 3:31pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
STILESGANG:...lets see heynches lift d ucl...how many season did heynches stay b4 he lifted ucl with bayern...because guardiola did not win it in 3 seasons den he is a failure?.....see wetin ancelloti was doing with bayern |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by jumper524(m): 3:37pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
pasada1900:am talking of big clubs |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by phaamsaam: 4:43pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
Maiconyoung:You are really deluded, superiority in followership... Epl fans make me laugh, goal post shifting |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by phaamsaam: 4:45pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
Maiconyoung: Keep your guesses to yourself, you are judging by the myopic view you have here in Nigeria right, we are talking quality of football and head to head, with coefficient, you can continue to eat the media, followership, press and money... Spits it. Must be so frustrating I understand. The look on mourinho face at the final whistle told the story and his press conference afterwards.. Uefa has told us who plays the better football, the relevant stats, I mean on the pitch, head to head says same... EOD |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by phaamsaam: 4:48pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
Maiconyoung:... Please don't shift the post... Go and read where the narrative started... Which league is better, use your upper, no with has better media, or spends more money, or is more followed... We are talking on the pitch |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by iluvpomo(m): 5:15pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
iliyande:I do not believe it is just marketing alone (because surely the Spanish know marketing too). The EPL has created a more competitive & entertaining league overall. |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by Nobody: 5:27pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
phaamsaam:I and u never talked abt d pitch. And u started quoting. Moreover ur post i quoted never said anything abt pitch. U were talkn like Epl is only knwn in Nigeria. |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by Nobody: 5:41pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
phaamsaam:has it ever occurred to u dat not everybody on NL are based permanently in Nigeria? No wonder u have been spitting trash. Well if u have been opportuned to watch brazilian clubs u'll undastnd what am talkn abt. Am nt guessing. D media, followership, money etc is what is d driving force behind world football, I won't be suprised u don't know. Using UEFA as d only yard stick to qualify La liga above Epl then u should knw La liga is behind d EPL therefore u need d Ucl to stand a chance against Epl. Take it or leave it, La liga is boring, even el classico is becoming boring of recent. |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by Nobody: 5:47pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
phaamsaam:whatever has a grt deal of followership is better than its rivals. U are an ardent follower of EPL and u knw there is "quality football" in spain and u left it for "average football" in Epl, who is more deluded? La Liga has been seeking for the limelight all these while, they can win UCl for 10yrs straight, it won't change d fact dat la liga is nt entertaining, it doesn't ignite d passion of football, it is boring. Take it or leave it. |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by phaamsaam: 5:55pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
Maiconyoung: Please leave out where people are based... If I am spitting thrash, it simply means your thought process is really very wack, reasoning I don't wanna deduce that... Laliga better than the epl... 99% of stats say so... Argue with the stats, even British agencies are not deluded enough to rank epl over the laliga... No need to continue the discuss... Go and play Mario my boy |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by phaamsaam: 6:00pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
Maiconyoung:I don't follow the bandwagon of noise making thinking that's interesting, quality of football played, laliga is light years ahead, you only have to watch both leagues mid table teams, if entertaining is as close to what man utd played in both legs, it really depicts the quality in that league...take more timeout clear your head, watch laliga games at home if you can, look at the quality of football played, then compare it with the police football in England... |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by phaamsaam: 6:00pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
iluvpomo:Pseudo competition in mediocrity you mean |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by Nobody: 6:03pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
phaamsaam:I guess u knw little abt british ranking, and u knw li2 abt uefa ranking. U spew alot of trash, i won't be suprised u have nt gone beyound ur immediate community therefore u knw li2 abt d outside world. Talking with u further is bringing myself to ur lowlevel and average Nigerian mentality, sorry we can't blend. 1 Like |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by Nobody: 6:04pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
phaamsaam:I guess u knw little abt british ranking, and u knw li2 abt uefa ranking. U spew alot of trash, i won't be suprised u have nt gone beyound ur immediate community therefore u knw li2 abt d outside world. Talking with u further is bringing myself to ur lowlevel and average Nigerian mentality, sorry we can't blend.. 1 Like |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by phaamsaam: 6:06pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
Maiconyoung:I stopped following the epl with delusion in mid 2000s, I watch games at home, and the only reason I would sub every month is to enjoy the quality of football from Espana in my favorite sofa... I was lodged in an hotel few weeks back, a Liverpool/Tottenham game was on I think, can't remember, I was watching villareal Eibar, the hotel attendant came into my room, saying oga premiership is on, I just looked at him and said I want to watch quality football |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by phaamsaam: 6:12pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
Maiconyoung:End the discuss, you Wana go personal bro, it's a sport, I don't wanna go down that Lane with you, an adage says no be person when call police first dey win case o... Average epl fan always results to insults and fights at the end... Do I look like an average Nigerian to you Let me end it here... Thank God for technology, one small boy would just sit behind his keypad and be spitting thrash... I am more matured, and wouldn't wanna take this further, one final dig, someone who doesn't have a passport talking to me about going beyond the shores of 9ja ... You better respect yourself oga... |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by iluvpomo(m): 7:15pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
phaamsaam:Mediocrity is a harsh generalization. There is a reason why EPL is the number 1 followed soccer league in the world. Attributing it to marketing is naive and also implying the Spanish are “poor sales people” |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by Nobody: 7:35pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
phaamsaam:I said I wasn't going to reply again bt U got me cracking me hard. At least u knw its a dig. I may be a small boy to u (don't knw ur definition of small boy) but in reality am nt, so don't even thnk abt it. Enuff of football btw me and u, our point of arguement happens to be in different domain. 1 Like |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by STILESGANG: 7:37pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
mvem:He spent 4 season in Bayern and was in the ucl final 3 out of those 4 times. And he lifted the treble in style in 2013.The guy is good.He is gunning for another treble this season |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by mikron(m): 8:41pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
iluvpomo:exactly.that's why I wanted at least 4 epl team to get to the quarters. Unfortunately it didn't come to pass. 1 Like |
Re: Manchester United Vs Sevilla :UCL (1 - 2) On 13th March 2018 by jelel6: 8:46pm On Mar 14, 2018 |
Topiipii: very nice post. and, I live football enough to know the Spanish dominance was/is one never seen before. I agree with majority of what you said above really. perhaps, you would appreciation my post you quoted if you followed what triggered such. if you go back at that my message, you'd know I'm not saying the English teams are back. I'm saying with the indices in place - present coaches, Money, and ambition shown, they are coming, in two three years they will all compete. I believe L,pool, City and Spurs play great football at the moment and they competed and would develop further. the Spanish did things correctly that's why they are here. its not their birthright, they worked for it - Some EPL teams are working for it. Regards |
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