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Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 11:50pm On Mar 14, 2018
FabioPeter:
589,300,000 - 0.4(589,300,000) = N353,580,000

.076% of 353,580,000 = N268,720.80 if its occupied by owner

.76% of 353,580,000 = N 2,687,208.00 if rented

This charge may be considered fair if the money is properly appropriated. in residential areas like this you pay around 10k monthly security, cost of running your gen about 40k/month, water/borehole and other sundry cost all amounting to over N600,000/Annum as against N268,720/Annum.

If the government guarantees good roads, security, electricity and water. this property tax is worth every penny.
Communities should engage government via town hall meetings, make their demands and extract government commitment. We got to be pounds wise.


*What I find irrational is the % cost disparity between apartment rented out and that occupied by owner.
How on earth can the amount ever be considered fair, when the govt is NOT going to provide you all these things like good roads, security, electricity and water and other sundry services for free even after paying LUC?? shocked

Don't you realise that in addition to LUC, you would still pay extra charges for any electricity you consume, and any pipe borne water supplied to your house, by the water corporation? Is it Lagos State govt that provides you with electricity? Your premise is totally faulty, sir! angry
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 11:56pm On Mar 14, 2018
PrecisionFx:
Oga ur living in a Yoruba estate. grin.

Igbo populace surpasses that of Yoruba in Lagos.

Same goes with wealth.


Everyone sane person who has lived in Lagos for at least 10 years knows this.

Thats why Ambode has been doing anything possible to restrict the Igbos. He has even created laws to prevent Igbos from gaining admission in Lagos state higher institutions (which is long dead before arrival).

Ambode created laws to make teaching n learning of Yoruba language compulsory in Lagos secondary schools, he also made laws legalizing the speaking of Yoruba language in Lagos state house of assembly (because igbos won seats there).

Even Fashola deported igbos.

Even after Ambode n tinubu finished rigging Lagos state governorship election results, The result was still too close.

U can remain blind to it till further notice.

Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 12:00am On Mar 15, 2018
profosa:
The taxman can raise any assessment he deems reasonable within the ambit of the law but is left for the taxpayer to prove otherwise.get an accredited estate valuer to do an actual valuation and write back to the tax authorities demanding amendment and pay what you deem fair based on the new valuation.

If you do not respond and you are taken to the tax tribunal,publishing your objection on social media is not defence.

And note that as the case progressess through the law courts,a bond of the amount in dispute would be demanded from you.object today and leave social media alone.
I disagree. sad Let them air their objections on social media, and also go to court. The shenanigans of the clueless people in govt, need to be exposed! Why are you trying to cover up the exploitative antics of this govt, on social media?
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by femu(m): 12:11pm On Mar 15, 2018
FabioPeter:
You mean it’s a bad idea for a man whose house is valued at 50m to pay 23,000/annum for govt to use to develop his host community?
U mean property owners don't have other bills to pay to survive so they should spend all their income on land use charge?

Will the govt provide free health, free education, free food, free transport.

You obviously don't know the significance of cumulative expenses
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by FabioPeter: 12:48pm On Mar 15, 2018
LaudableXX:
How on earth can the amount ever be considered fair, when the govt is NOT going to provide you all these things like good roads, security, electricity and water and other sundry services for free even after paying LUC?? shocked

Don't you realise that in addition to LUC, you would still pay extra charges for any electricity you consume, and any pipe borne water supplied to your house, by the water corporation? Is it Lagos State govt that provides you with electricity? Your premise is totally faulty, sir! angry
The problem is trust, we don’t believe we will get value for the money we pay. But, I think the govt has demonstrated in practical terms it’s motive to take Lagos to the next stage of development to do that you need money and property tax is one of the ways developed countries generate revenue.

From my calculation if the average property in Lagos is valued at 25m. Then the annual tax due will be about 11,000/annum. Less than 1k/month
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by FabioPeter: 12:51pm On Mar 15, 2018
true2home:
All you Baba boys do not want to face the real issue here. The evaluation is the big elephant in the room. We all know that Omo Onile repacked as Tax Valuer, will be using this tax to extort money from people and remitting some percentage to Baba in IKOYI.

I remember laughing when they said that Omo onile is being abolished in Lagos. I know something has been arrange with them to continue using them to exploit the people. Now we know their new role in Lagos
How on earth do you think the govt will use thugs to collect tax.
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by FabioPeter: 1:01pm On Mar 15, 2018
true2home:
The problem is WITH the value of the House to start. That house is not worth more than 55M period!!! NOW START YOUR CALCULATOR AGAIN AND TELL US OUR TAX OGA.
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by LaudableXX:
FabioPeter:
The problem is trust, we don’t believe we will get value for the money we pay. But, I think the govt has demonstrated in practical terms it’s motive to take Lagos to the next stage of development to do that you need money and property tax is one of the ways developed countries generate revenue.

From my calculation if the average property in Lagos is valued at 25m. Then the annual tax due will be about 11,000/annum. Less than 1k/month
Cut the crap and stop the guesswork. sad The problem is NOT trust, the problem is the deceit of the govt. Each time they increased rates, they ended up using it for something totally different from what it was meant for. In some cases, the money found its way into private pockets. How many houses exist in Lagos, and how many of them are valued at 25 million? 10%, 20% or 40%? Nobody knows. So why use 25 million as an average sum? Did you do a survey? Nobody has come out to say they were billed such a low rate, which you quoted up here.

The fact is that govt is the one calculating the market value of such houses, and working out the LUC charges which owners of such houses are to pay. Why? huh And who told you that govt will allow you to make monthly payments? Did you see a vision in your dreams? The charges have been increased by over 400% and landlords have been given less than 30 days to pay the full amount. Will they steal to get that money, to pay to govt?

Someone who was billed 78,000 last year is suddenly being billed almost 400,000 this year, and you are one of those blindly defending such ridiculous rates? More than half of the money collected in previous years, were siphoned into private pockets. The same Ambode claimed he spent 12 billion naira buying diesel to power 31,466 street lights. When those in the industry calculated the true cost of diesel, it was discovered that he could not have spent more than 2-4 billion naira on all those street lights. What happened to the remaining 8 billion? Nobody knows.

So please stop sounding clueless, it doesn't suit you. You obviously do not own a property in Lagos. I asked you a question in my last post which you carefully dodged: "Don't you realise that in addition to LUC, you would still pay extra charges for any electricity you consume, and pay for any pipe borne water supplied to your house, by the water corporation? Is it Lagos State govt that provides you with electricity?" Am still waiting for your answer...!
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by true2home(m): 11:26pm On Mar 15, 2018
Had you heard of Oshodi thugs turn Lasma?


FabioPeter:
How on earth do you think the govt will use thugs to collect tax.
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by FabioPeter: 5:24pm On Mar 18, 2018
LaudableXX:
Cut the crap and stop the guesswork. sad The problem is NOT trust, the problem is the deceit of the govt. Each time they increased rates, they ended up using it for something totally different from what it was meant for. In some cases, the money found its way into private pockets. How many houses exist in Lagos, and how many of them are valued at 25 million? 10%, 20% or 40%? Nobody knows. So why use 25 million as an average sum? Did you do a survey? Nobody has come out to say they were billed such a low rate, which you quoted up here.

The fact is that govt is the one calculating the market value of such houses, and working out the LUC charges which owners of such houses are to pay. Why? huh And who told you that govt will allow you to make monthly payments? Did you see a vision in your dreams? The charges have been increased by over 400% and landlords have been given less than 30 days to pay the full amount. Will they steal to get that money, to pay to govt?

Someone who was billed 78,000 last year is suddenly being billed almost 400,000 this year, and you are one of those blindly defending such ridiculous rates? More than half of the money collected in previous years, were siphoned into private pockets. The same Ambode claimed he spent 12 billion naira buying diesel to power 31,466 street lights. When those in the industry calculated the true cost of diesel, it was discovered that he could not have spent more than 2-4 billion naira on all those street lights. What happened to the remaining 8 billion? Nobody knows.

So please stop sounding clueless, it doesn't suit you. You obviously do not own a property in Lagos. I asked you a question in my last post which you carefully dodged: "Don't you realise that in addition to LUC, you would still pay extra charges for any electricity you consume, and pay for any pipe borne water supplied to your house, by the water corporation? Is it Lagos State govt that provides you with electricity?" Am still waiting for your answer...!
You are too bitter to engage in rational debate. Anyway the rates have been reviewed and payment can be in installments. I wish you well.
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 5:29pm On Mar 18, 2018
FabioPeter:
You are too bitter to engage in rational debate. Anyway the rates have been reviewed and payment can be in installments. I wish you well.
No, I am not bitter. I am simply being factual. undecided You on the other hand, are just being clueless. You have not been able to answer one single question that I asked you, in my last post. You even claimed the state govt would provide light, water, security etc as a result of paying LUC, in your previous post. I had to remind you that paying LUC, does not absolve anybody from paying for electricity and water as these are additional expenses. Now, you are claiming rates have been reviewed. Even after the review, the LUC charges still remain high! The govt still wants to collect LUC charges on unoccupied houses and empty plots of land. How silly!
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by FabioPeter: 6:06pm On Mar 18, 2018
LaudableXX:
No, I am not bitter. I am simply being factual. undecided You on the other hand, are just being clueless. You have not been able to answer one single question that I asked you, in my last post. You even claimed the state govt would provide light, water, security etc as a result of paying LUC, in your previous post. I had to remind you that paying LUC, does not absolve anybody from paying for electricity and water as these are additional expenses. Now, you are claiming rates have been reviewed. Even after the review, the LUC charges still remain high! The govt still wants to collect LUC charges on unoccupied houses and empty plots of land. How silly!
I am not a garage tout, I engage in argument were respect is mutual. As per your questions I have my opinion/argument and it’s definitely not fact , you do not have to agree.
I do not mind sharing but this discussion must be civil. Speak to me the way you want to be spoken to.
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 7:04pm On Mar 18, 2018
FabioPeter:
I am not a garage tout, I engage in argument were respect is mutual. As per your questions I have my opinion/argument and it’s definitely not fact , you do not have to agree.
I do not mind sharing but this discussion must be civil. Speak to me the way you want to be spoken to.
You claim you are not a garage tout, so why do you engage in sycophancy or keep talking like one? huh I am not interested in arguments, I only like to set the records straight. I believe anyone who comes online to canvass a view, must do his research thoroughly before putting pen to paper, or fingers to the keyboard. Putting up a post, is not an excuse to peddle untruth, confusion, propaganda or ill-informed opinions. undecided Respect can only be earned, not given. And it comes by way of speaking the truth, and bringing forth facts.
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by FabioPeter: 7:28pm On Mar 18, 2018
LaudableXX:
You claim you are not a garage tout, so why do you engage in sycophancy or keep talking like one? huh I am not interested in arguments, I only like to set the records straight. I believe anyone who comes online to canvass a view, must do his research thoroughly before putting pen to paper, or fingers to the keyboard. Putting up a post, is not an excuse to peddle untruth, confusion, propaganda or ill-informed opinions. undecided Respect can only be earned, not given. And it comes by way of speaking the truth, and bringing forth facts.
I agree with the government tax initiative, I did a simple analysis/case study to show that its affordable, I advocate for accountability on the part of government, I suggest how money generated can be ploughed back to the communities.
All of it is my opinion. If you think Messi is better than CR7 and I think otherwise, does it make me a sycophant, liar, clueless?
I doubt you will use these derogatory terms if you have a similar argument with a random person at your workplace. Please respect people, they have earned it by being fellow human and more so by having a decent conversation with you.
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 7:34pm On Mar 18, 2018
FabioPeter:
I agree with the government tax initiative, I did a simple analysis/case study to show that its affordable, I advocate for accountability on the part of government, I suggest how money generated can be ploughed back to the communities.
All of it is my opinion. If you think Messi is better than CR7 and I think otherwise, does it make me a sycophant, liar, clueless?
I doubt you will use these derogatory terms if you have a similar argument with a random person at your workplace. Please respect people, they have earned it by being fellow human and more so by having a decent conversation with you.
Guy, I respect people but I do not suffer f00ls gladly. Especially those who argue blindly and try to play the card of propaganda. Anyone who thinks Messi is better than CR7, must support such assertions with verifiable facts and analytical proof, not by basing their support on falsehood, which was what you did in your previous posts. Go back and take another look at what you wrote!
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by FabioPeter: 7:46pm On Mar 18, 2018
LaudableXX:
Guy, I respect people but I do not suffer f00ls gladly. Especially those who argue blindly and try to play the card of propaganda. Anyone who thinks Messi is better than CR7, must support such assertions with verifiable facts and analytical proof, not by basing their support on falsehood, which was what you did in your previous posts. Go back and take another look at what you wrote!
You are a kid who is either unemployed or underemployed, this definitely affects the way you think and speak.
Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 7:52pm On Mar 18, 2018
FabioPeter:
FabioPeter, You are a kid who is either unemployed or underemployed, this definitely affects the way you think and speak.

Re: The N589.3M House In Omole As Valued By LASG For Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 11:23pm On Mar 22, 2018
femu:
U mean property owners don't have other bills to pay to survive so they should spend all their income on land use charge?

Will the govt provide free health, free education, free food, free transport.


You obviously don't know the significance of cumulative expenses
I wonder, o! shocked I no know say you sef see am! Honestly, it appears some people dropped their brains behind on their pillow, when they decided to log into NL....
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