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Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by Originakalokalo(m): 8:53am On Mar 15, 2018
iamgenius:

Since Jesus is God and God is Jesus, thus: Jesus used his Word to create God, God is the word of Jesus. Jesus used God to create everything you see.
God(The Word) created all that you see because it was through the Word all things came to existence. The word is not a creation but He (Jesus is the Creator, in other word God is the Creator, He is God and the saviour of mankind. Jesus, Jesus's word and Jesus's spirit are one.

What is wrong with you sir?

You are not the first person that will ask this question.


I laughed hard at it..it is funny really.


When polycap told the Roman Governor that JESUS died for him,

He opened his mouth in disbelief and Rage...He asked him,

You mean that Jew that was crucified?

Polycap refused to worship the emperor.

He immediately ordered his execution by burning with fire.


Unfortunately for you, This JESUS is the only way God has decided to pardon the sin of mankind


If you don't believe his sacrifice

You are the sacrifice for your sins.
Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by Originakalokalo(m): 8:58am On Mar 15, 2018
iamgenius:

Since Jesus is God and God is Jesus, thus: Jesus used his Word to create God, God is the word of Jesus. Jesus used God to create everything you see.
God(The Word) created all that you see because it was through the Word all things came to existence. The word is not a creation but He (Jesus is the Creator, in other word God is the Creator, He is God and the saviour of mankind. Jesus, Jesus's word and Jesus's spirit are one.

What is wrong with you sir?


You even added what the guy did not say...

I had to look at the comment Again...

Ask me questions about this.


I will like to answer you.

*Throat is paining me cos of laughing*
Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by iamgenius(m): 10:16am On Mar 15, 2018
Originakalokalo:


You are not the first person that will ask this question.


I laughed hard at it..it is funny really.


When polycap told the Roman Governor that JESUS died for him,

He opened his mouth in disbelief and Rage...He asked him,

You mean that Jew that was crucified?

Polycap refused to worship the emperor.

He immediately ordered his execution by burning with fire.


Unfortunately for you, This JESUS is the only way God has decided to pardon the sin of mankind


If you don't believe his sacrifice

You are the sacrifice for your sins.
Wetin come concern me. Anybody can wish to lay down his life for not disbelieving in whatever he believes in.
Jesus laid down his life in order to forgive the sins of his creations. That Jesus on the cross creates this world with word, why can't he just say a word and forgive his creations.

Let me ask you a question : If you commit a sin do you seek for forgiveness?
Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by Originakalokalo(m): 10:29am On Mar 15, 2018
iamgenius:

Wetin come concern me. Anybody can wish to lay down his life for not disbelieving in whatever he believes in.
Jesus laid down his life in order to forgive the sins of his creations. That Jesus on the cross creates this world with word, why can't he just say a word and forgive his creations.

Let me ask you a question : If you commit a sin do you seek for forgiveness?


Yes . I do.


Point of correction. God created the world with the Word.

On why he cannot just say a word, and forgive his creation,


God's Holiness is extremely wonderful and Great.

You and I cannot comprehend it.

REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU ARE, HE DOESN'T CONDONE SIN.

Jesus knew on the cross that God left him for a period while he carried the sins of the world.


He couldn't just say a word.


He clothed Adam and Eve with animal skin to cover their unclothedness..

The animal was killed in the process.

Blood was shed in the process.


In old testament, if you sin,

You put your hands on an animal, and confess your sins.

The animal takes the blame and dies on your behalf..

The blood of animals covered the sin, and you continue to sin again and again...it is in your Nature.

The blood of Jesus removed the sin,. and gives you a Spirit to RENEW YOUR NATURE,

SO THAT YOU CAN STOP SINNING.
Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by iamgenius(m): 11:25pm On Mar 15, 2018
Originakalokalo:



Yes . I do.
Why do you have to do that? Didn't Jesus carry your sins? Who do you seek forgiveness from? If you say God, it means it's Jesus.


Point of correction. God created the world with the Word.

On why he cannot just say a word, and forgive his creation,


God's Holiness is extremely wonderful and Great.

You and I cannot comprehend it.
Point of correction , Jesus created the world with the Word. Abi Jesus is not God again?


It's true that the Power of God is beyond the imagination of human beings. Allah says:


Sura 42 - Verse 11
...nothing is like Him; and He only is the All Hearing, the All Seeing.


Will you tell me that we just have to believe in the existence of God without comprehending who He is at all. If we are created by God in such a way that we don't have freewill, then God shouldn't punish anybody for not worshipping Him.

REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU ARE, HE DOESN'T CONDONE SIN.

Jesus knew on the cross that God left him for a period while he carried the sins of the world.


He couldn't just say a word.


He clothed Adam and Eve with animal skin to cover their unclothedness..

The animal was killed in the process.

Blood was shed in the process.

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In old testament, if you sin,

You put your hands on an animal, and confess your sins.

The animal takes the blame and dies on your behalf..

The blood of animals covered the sin, and you continue to sin again and again...it is in your Nature.[/b]

The blood of Jesus removed the sin,. and gives you a Spirit to RENEW YOUR NATURE,

SO THAT YOU CAN STOP SINNING.


Don't confuse people again:
God knew on the cross that Jesus left him for a period while he carried the sins of the world.

@the bolded, I'll like to know the reference.
Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by Originakalokalo(m): 6:45am On Mar 16, 2018
iamgenius:
Why do you have to do that? Didn't Jesus carry your sins? Who do you seek forgiveness from? If you say God, it means it's Jesus.


Point of correction , Jesus created the world with the Word. Abi Jesus is not God again?


It's true that the Power of God is beyond the imagination of human beings. Allah says:


Sura 42 - Verse 11
...nothing is like Him; and He only is the All Hearing, the All Seeing.


Will you tell me that we just have to believe in the existence of God without comprehending who He is at all. If we are created by God in such a way that we don't have freewill, then God shouldn't punish anybody for not worshipping Him.



Don't confuse people again:
God knew on the cross that Jesus left him for a period while he carried the sins of the world.

@the bolded, I'll like to know the reference.



I can't see anything bolded...


You have free will . You can decide to do evil or not.


You asked why I ask for forgiveness, this is the response;

I am not a Sinner. I watch what I say, think, act, etc. My life is no more mine.

Living a life of Holiness is every minute thing.

Once I am awake every morning, the consciousness to live a pleasing life to God starts, I believe that the holy Spirit does this.

From experience, with the help of the holy Spirit, one can live for months without sinning...

Jesus is Lord over my life.However, if I mistakenly sin

, I ask for forgiveness from God, pleading the blood of Jesus. Then I decide not to do it again.

Are you a Muslim?
Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by ysyowel(m): 7:11am On Mar 16, 2018
iamgenius:

Since Jesus is God and God is Jesus, thus: Jesus used his Word to create God, God is the word of Jesus. Jesus used God to create everything you see.
God(The Word) created all that you see because it was through the Word all things came to existence. The word is not a creation but He (Jesus is the Creator, in other word God is the Creator, He is God and the saviour of mankind. Jesus, Jesus's word and Jesus's spirit are one.

What is wrong with you sir?
fool do not change this other, God, God's Word and God's Sipirit are one.

receive Jesus and be save... remember only God (Jesus) can judge the world at the end, he will judge Mohammed also.
Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by iamgenius(m): 8:57am On Mar 16, 2018
Originakalokalo:




I can't see anything bolded...
The reference of how sins are forgiven in the Old Testament.


You have free will . You can decide to do evil or not.


You asked why I ask for forgiveness, this is the response;

I am not a Sinner.
We are all sinners, didn't Jesus say: No one born out of a woman can never be clean(of sins).Even Jesus was born out of a woman.

I watch what I say, think, act, etc. My life is no more mine.

Living a life of Holiness is every minute thing.

Once I am awake every morning, the consciousness to live a pleasing life to God starts, I believe that the holy Spirit does this.

From experience, with the help of the holy Spirit, one can live for months without sinning...

Jesus is Lord over my life.However, if I mistakenly sin

, I ask for forgiveness from God, pleading the blood of Jesus. Then I decide not to do it again.

Are you a Muslim?

This is where the problem lies with Christians, you claimed God(Jesus) has died for your sins. Yet, if you sin you ask for forgiveness. Think about it. Does it make sense?


I AM A MUSLIM.
Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by Originakalokalo(m): 10:02am On Mar 16, 2018
iamgenius:
The reference of how sins are forgiven in the Old Testament.

We are all sinners, didn't Jesus say: No one born out of a woman can never be clean(of sins).Even Jesus was born out of a woman.


This is where the problem lies with Christians, you claimed God(Jesus) has died for your sins. Yet, if you sin you ask for forgiveness. Think about it. Does it make sense?


I AM A MUSLIM.


Ok.


In Jesus, I am not a Sinner.... Never!!!! His righteousness is mine...

Once I have accepted that he sacrificed for me, it is settled...The Bible says he interceeds for me


At the same time, he gives me a spirit that makes living right easier...

This spirit cautions when I am about to err.



That said,

Jesus, was not born of men....

Read Leviticus 8 and 16.
Read about burnt offering and sin offering..
Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by Abbertee2: 4:01pm On Mar 16, 2018
dragon2:
There is only one God.One Godhead.When we speak of God we speak of divine substance.There are 3 persons that make the Godhead.The Father,the son and the Holy Spirit.Three persons one Godhead.That is why the scripture say at the beginning God said,Let "us" make...

Throne or seat means position not chair.God is spirit,he does not seat on material chairs.
The Throne is a position of holiness, Christ is seated next to God meaning he is the same as God or simply he is God.

The closest analogy I can think of is us humans,while being 7billion strong we are but one nature ,equal in every way,one race sharing all human nature together begotten and giving birth to by each other serving each other and being served in time.
That our species is not united in all things like the trinity is the reason why we find it hard to understand them. If we understood what we share it common as humans understanding the trinity would have been a bit more easy.

The Trinity,One Godhead,One divinity,One substance.Three person equal in Glory and position. Agree in all things, act together in all things.


i pity u man
Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by PastorDavidAwuj(m): 4:50pm On Mar 16, 2018
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Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by iamgenius(m): 10:07pm On Mar 16, 2018
Originakalokalo:



Ok.


In Jesus, I am not a Sinner.... Never!!!! His righteousness is mine...

Once I have accepted that he sacrificed for me, it is settled...The Bible says he interceeds for me


At the same time, he gives me a spirit that makes living right easier...

This spirit cautions when I am about to err.



That said,

Jesus, was not born of men....

Read Leviticus 8 and 16.
Read about burnt offering and sin offering..

You are a sinner, simple.

Jesus was born of man and also a son of man
Matthew 18:11 ["For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost.]
Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by Originakalokalo(m): 5:44am On Mar 17, 2018
iamgenius:

You are a sinner, simple.

Jesus was born of man and also a son of man
Matthew 18:11 ["For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost.]


The statement "son of man" is an expression to show that he had human nature

He manifested as a man....


What would you say about JESUS statement when he prayed in John 17?

He said,..." Father glorify me, with the glory I had with you from the beginning"

He told the Pharisees,. BEFORE ABRAHAM I AM

According to Micah 5 vs 2,


Out of Bethlehem shall come he whose movements have been FROM EVERLASTING.

look closely at those statements, you will discover that Jesus came in the flesh,

He has the attributes of God.



You said I am a Sinner...

I was a chronic sinner. He has saved me.


I AM NOT A SINNER ANYMORE.
Re: I'm Confused About Jesus :-[ by tartar9(m): 5:48pm On Mar 17, 2018
tamethem:


"This Cultured"
where is the culture?

Do you think anyone can write all what this jihadist pasted here about Islam and they won't start calling for his head?

You guys are full deceits and it is obvious who rules your hearts.

You All can remain Confused. Even the Devil is.
grin

Guy sharrap!!!
Its obvious even to my grandma that you're just clicking nairaland for d first time.

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