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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 9:36pm On Mar 16, 2018
Nonaira1:


So I should post in my law-ins contact on NL for you to duaturb HIM. Pay attention to wtf you read. I have said repeatedly it's my sister's HUSBAND.

Anyway, here's a post made by Ugbodu insulting their king after the NL post made wave.

In addition, pay attention when osita mentioned ugbodu speaks yoruba, the reply of an Ugbodu person in proudly anioma, proudly igbo stated tongue emphasis she's a member of PROUDLY ANIOMA, PROUDLY IGBO

Finally, I'm still waiting on the yoruba edits attended by olukumi kings. Waiting!!
lol this proves that they speak Yoruba thou the language is threatened but still spoken. So are u saying they are not olukumi anymore or what. What is the ngozi saying and post the in law if u want to use her as a source of reference for ur bullshit

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by CrtlAltDel: 9:38pm On Mar 16, 2018
I am not needed here, my fellow omoluabis have done a great job grin grin grin

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 9:38pm On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
post it if u don’t Ogun and amadhioa will destroy ur life

We don't discuss with frogs like you. Keep hopping.
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 9:39pm On Mar 16, 2018
CrtlAltDel:
I am not needed here, my fellow omoluabis have done a great job grin grin grin
osu will lie to ur face with no proof and call it fact

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 9:39pm On Mar 16, 2018
CrtlAltDel:
I am not needed here, my fellow omoluabis have done a great job grin grin grin
You are welcome to join if you want.
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Alfaab: 9:41pm On Mar 16, 2018
KwaraRat:
The word "Yoruba" does not have any meaning in the language of the Olukumi People but traces it's origins from the mockery the Hausa/Fulani jihadist used in describing the once great race after they had sacked Oyo Ile (the capital of the old Oyo empire) and annexed Ilorin for the Sokoto Caliphate.

The word Yoruba is derived from the two words: Oyo and Oba and from the Hausa/Fulani dialect was pronounced "Oyoroba" and was a direct mockery of how they (Hausa Fulanis) captured Ilorin, killed Afonja and the Oba of old Oyo.

How the Olukumin peope will accept a known derogatory mockery as the name of their race baffles me.

There is nothing like oyoroba that you formed out of the air.
This is how Yoruba came by..


History of the Yoruba:
Decoding the History of Yoruba
within the meanings of
language and the symbols
One of the things that is
very consistent in the
History of Yoruba people
and family nations has been
that King Lamurudu was a
powerful hunter who had
several children and one of
them, Odua or Oduduwa the
last child, became the
founding ancestor of the
Yoruba people and family
nations.
Our prehistory is based on
oral traditions and, like all
oral stories, subject to
change by omission and
commission -- after some
thousands years of told and
retold. When groups and
family nations have found
their niche and security
within the land, independent
of one another, different
stories about groups'
origins become more
fashionable.
And the advent of
colonialists did not help our
history. It was like the
'sermon on the mount' --
"Give ye not that which is
sacred to the dog, neither
cast your pearl before the
swine, for the swine would
trample them under their
feet and the dog would turn
and rend you." For some
thousands of years we have
given our history to alien
powers; as we use their
expertise and their language
to interpret and write about
who we were and are.
The situation was made
more complicated as
colonialists (another alien
powers) moved in and
assigned different alphabets
to the spoken words of
similar groups within group.
For example: Some groups
were assigned the letter C,
some got Z and another got
S -- for similar sounds. In
one similar sound, some
groups were assigned Ch, or
Sh, or, even S. Some group
received the K and others
received the Q for similar
sound, and so on and so
on. Each group accepted its
alien alphabets without
reexamination and change.
Furthermore, isolation of
groups from each other led
to different pronunciations
of words and their uses
took new, but related,
meanings.
Please allow me to digress
a moment. I went to see a
Ghanian colleague in
Richardson by Dallas in
Texas. He and I went out for
a couple of hours and, upon
return, his wife welcomed
us back home with the word
that sounded like Yoruba
"eku aabo,"which means
"welcome" in Yoruba. But I
was wrong. She was
speaking her Ghana
language when she said
"akwaaba," which means
"welcome." Another group in
Ghana spells the same word
"aquaaba."Our languages
and symbols, highly codified
by our ancestors in order to
promote survival, could be
very useful in determining
our true history.
We must look at prehistory
and other available
references from ancient
times related to oral
prehistory and our cultural
symbols to correct the
mistakes in written history.
Last year I wrote: "The
Yoruba language is
excellent in what is called
"euphony." Euphony is a
method by which one makes
a phonetic change to make
a word or phrase more
pleasant to hear or
pronounce. For example, in
Yoruba, "li" or "ni" can
interchange. Some Yoruba
ethnic can say "ni ana" or "li
ana" which means "as of
yesterday." "Ni oni" or "li
oni" which means "as of
today." For the sake of
euphony, both phrases
become "lana" and "loni"
respectively. Now, let us
apply the same to Nimrod,
Nam'Ur-ud and the father of
O'dua -- Lamurudu.
First, take out all vowels in
each name. Nimrod will
become NMRD, Nam'Ur-ud
will become NMRD. For the
sake of euphony, replace
the "L" in Lamurudu with N
and you have NMRD.
Lamurudu was the
beginning of ena; the
inversion or change of
letters, words, syllables or
sentences in order that the
sense is disguised.
Lamurudu is thus
concealed.
It has now become an
instinctual response for the
Yoruba to trigger the "u"
sense upon contact with
Arabic names, which have
their root in Aramaic, the
language of the Canaanites.
Ask yourself this question:
How did the Greek come to
have the "Staff of Orion" and
the Yoruba also have the
"Opa Oranyan?" Orion and
Oranyan are the same but
utter confusion.
But our elders would
exaggerate some words.
Oranyan (Orion) became
Oranmiyan -- the same utter
confusion. The Greek and
the Hebrew borrowed a lot
from their Canaanite
masters from prehistory.
The art of writing came from
the Canaanites. The Hebrew,
the Arabic and the Greek
borrowed from the
Canaanite. Some older
dictionaries would let you
know that.
But modern dictionaries
have begun to omit the
Canaanite as first in writing.
And that is purposeful. For
example, the letter "O" is
used by the Canaanite to
mean "end or completion." It
is "omega" in Greek which
means "end." The word "dua"
is Aramaic/Arabic for
"prayer" or "supplicate
before God." In Arabic "Ya"
is "O." Therefore if you
named your child "Ya'dua"
and I named my child
"O'dua," we are both
thanking God for answering
our prayers for giving us the
child we want.
The name is usually given to
the expected last born son.
In modern Yoruba, a'dua has
acquired the letter "r" to
become "adura. "Following
the deluge, after a few
thousand years with the
kingdom under water and
under deserts, other people,
including the Hebrew,
invaded with confidence to
take over the land gradually
because the great king was
gone. The Canaanites
scattered under different
names to hide because of
persecution, genocide,
splinter groups and within
group fighting. One group
became Yoruba, which was
'Yerubbaal' -- the 'People of
Baal'. Baal was a
monotheistic God.
With new names for the one
and only God, the word
'Baal' was absorbed from
the Canaanite into Hebrew
to mean 'lord or master of
the house' and it is the
same as 'baale' in Yoruba.
The people further changed
the identity of Baal to
Shango.
Please make the effort to go
to a good museum where
you can find the drawing of
the Canaanite God Baal and
compare it with any statue
of Shango. And for that
matter, we should compare
the sculptures and arts of
the Canaanites
(Phoenicians) with that of
the Yoruba, Benin, Asante
and others for similarities.
And we should not allow
any stolen history found in
the Old Testament cause us
to shy away from our
prehistory. The Canaanite
word "ilu" gave us Olu, Eli
and Ala. The same people
gave us "ob" from which
Obd, Abd and Oba came.
For example in the Bible, we
have OBADIAH which is
"servant of God." It is
oxymoron when our Yoruba
ministers call God "Olorun-
oba." the Owner of the
Heaven cannot also be
called the servant. Olorun
by itself is a great attribute
for God. Oba in prehistory
was the servant of the
people appointed by the
King to administer his
territories -- conquered or
acquired. At that time, Obas
were like Governor Generals
under the British rule in our
present day. They were not
meant to equal the status of
the king.
In the same line of
conversation, the deity
"Obatala" in Yoruba was the
'servant of God' and God is
'Ala Ta Ala' in Islam. The
time is now for our
linguists, lexicologists,
educators and simply
ordinary persons to help
update the Yoruba
Dictionary to include the
roots and origins of words.
Our alphabets, developed by
a European anthropologist,
only put us further away
from our origin, especially
those letters that carry a dot
along with them.
Take for an example, the
letter 'O' as in 'imo' and
'ino'. Both words mean
'light'. But in Aramaic and
Arabic, the words 'light' will
be 'ur' and 'nur'. Let us
declare our own Age of
Enlightenment with the new
millennium.
Author: M. Kayode Oladale
Molake

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by CrtlAltDel: 9:41pm On Mar 16, 2018
igbodefender:

You are welcome to join if you want.
Naaa…. You wawa osus aint worth the shiitt grin grin grin
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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 9:42pm On Mar 16, 2018
igbodefender:


We don't discuss with frogs like you. Keep hopping.
e pain am be contented with ur osu history u came from isreal u are Jew. The ugbo people of Ile Ife remains in ondo and they are no red cap wearing osu. Igbo defender right now

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 9:42pm On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
lol this proves that they speak Yoruba thou the language is threatened but still spoken. So are u saying they are not olukumi anymore or what. What is the ngozi saying and post the in law if u want to use her as a source of reference for ur bullshit

English you can't speak. You are here forming pseudo professor. You are a disgrace.
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 9:43pm On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
e pain am be contented with ur osu history u came from isreal u are Jew. The ugbo people of Ile Ife remains in ondo and they are no red cap wearing osu. Igbo defender right now
In your dreams, frog grin
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 9:44pm On Mar 16, 2018
Ndi Olukumi by ndi Igbo.
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 9:45pm On Mar 16, 2018
igbodefender:


English you can't speak. You are here forming pseudo professor. You are a disgrace.
am no profesor but what i say i back it up with fact, am not some osu who lie through his teeth with no evidence to back it up. Eg igbo people of Ile Ife are modern day ibo when the same people still exist in Ondo State with multiple account of the history from the king and the people

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by rlauncher(m): 9:46pm On Mar 16, 2018
igbodefender:


You are talking from a closed mindset. It is a hallmark of people who are not ready to change their views even if caught wrong. So, we have nothing to discuss. Run along kid.

Explain yourself.

I insist, Igbos have never at anytime in history spoken Yoruba language , except for those who have lived in Yorubaland in contemporary times. Explain why Olukumi people and their traditional rulers speak a language Yorubas can understand perfectly while Igbos can't understand a phrase let alone a sentence.

Explain why their kings had always had Yoruba names. grin

By the way, the guy you are talking to is above 40. Not a kid. Watch your mouth. angry

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 9:48pm On Mar 16, 2018
igbodefender:

In your dreams, frog grin
painment The modern day Igbo king of ife in Ondo State greets u and he has a little story for u about his history.

Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 9:53pm On Mar 16, 2018
rlauncher:


Explain yourself.

I insist, Igbos have never at anytime in history spoken Yoruba language , except for those who have lived in Yorubaland in contemporary times. Explain why Olukumi people and their traditional rulers speak a language Yorubas can understand perfectly while Igbos can't understand a phrase let alone a sentence.

Explain why their kings had always had Yoruba names. grin

Explain why these people safely tucked inside Igbo Land if they are not Igbos.

Explain why an Ugbo title Yasara is also present in many parts of Anioma Igbo Land as Iysara, Iyasele, etc.
Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 9:56pm On Mar 16, 2018
igbodefender:


Explain why these people safely tucked inside Igbo Land if they are not Igbos.

Explain why an Ugbo title Yasara is also present in many parts of Anioma Igbo Land as Iysara, Iyasele, etc.
they tell the story themselves they migrated from Yoruba land and settle there according to king ayo

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Alfaab: 10:04pm On Mar 16, 2018
The etymology of the name "Yoruba" can be traced to the Arabic or Arhamaic language. I am not too good in referencing posts, I would have referred to you the post in which I discussed your question. Let's look at Yoruba and the believed founder of the tribe, Lamurudu. The word Yoruba was used to refer to a people that emigrated from an Arab culture. As you head North and encounter different languages its pronounciation gets closer to "Ya Arab". Ya Arab stand for the "Children of Arab" or "People of Arab" or "Descent of Arab". The Hausas call Yoruba "Bayarabe". They call Arabs, "Balarabe" . Sometimes they will say "Yarabawa" for Yoruba and "Larabawa" for Arab. Who were the Arabs at the time of Lamurudu arriving in Ife? They were idol worshippers who believed in gods. Lamurudu brought that tradition to Ife and instituted it as the religion of the Yorubas. The Arab land covered all along the eastern edge of Africa to the horn by Somalia and into Yemen and up into what today is Saudi Arbia. Lamurudu was an Arab of Axum descent. Axum was in what is now Ethiopia. Yorubas are not the only Arabian migrants to current Nigeria. The Shuwa Arabs are too. They are found in Adamawa and Borno and they are of Sudan descent. To explain Lamurudu (Oduduwa's father), let's look at two names; Abdul Hamid and Al Amin. When pronounced in Yoruba, the first becomes Lamidi and the second Lamina. There are people today in Yorubaland called Lamidi and Lamina and if you tell them its correctly spelled Abdul Hamid and Al Amin they will dispute it. Using this analogy, Lamurudu would be something like Al Marud. Lamurudu has no translation in Yoruba language, it is widely acknowledged that its a foreign name. The story of Lamurudu beaing a man of Eastern origin is true. He emigrated from Ethiopia. Now did every Yoruba emigrated with him and are of Eastern origin? NO!

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by rlauncher(m): 10:04pm On Mar 16, 2018
CrtlAltDel:
I am not needed here, my fellow omoluabis have done a great job grin grin grin

No o. I beg, we need your contributions too.

We must not allow this ignorant Igbo people shave our heads in our absence.
.

If people are carrying shits from one place to another, and you don't join them in carrying it, they will drop the shits at your doorstep. grin

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nonaira1: 10:09pm On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
lol this proves that they speak Yoruba thou the language is threatened but still spoken. So are u saying they are not olukumi anymore or what. What is the ngozi saying and post the in law if u want to use her as a source of reference for ur bullshit

Osita is NOT from ugbodu. Osita is Ndokwa. Osita, a non ugbodu, mentioned they speak yoruba. ngozi who is Ugbodu aka olukumi aka the community in question informed him they DO NOT speak the language and she has yet to meet ANYONE that does. This is a woman from the town in question member of a group meant for IGBOS.

If she saw herself as yoruba then she she informing someone else they do not speak Yoruba

I'm sill waiting for ANY OLUKUMNI KING prsentation im ANY Yoruba celeberation? Why are you avoiding this simple task. They are yoruba right according to your desperation then you should SEVERAL attendance if yoruba events they went just like i do for our community. Hell let's make it easy...show ANY yoruba traditional event the Ugbodu king have went to or sent any representative. I'm still desperately waiting for this simple task?

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nonaira1: 10:13pm On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
lol this proves that they speak Yoruba thou the language is threatened but still spoken. So are u saying they are not olukumi anymore or what. What is the ngozi saying and post the in law if u want to use her as a source of reference for ur bullshit

Ngozi is Olukumi, Ugbodu PRICESLY.

Osita is NOT from ugbodu. Osita is Ndokwa. Osita, a non ugbodu, mentioned they speak yoruba. ngozi who is Ugbodu aka olukumi aka the community in question informed him they DO NOT speak the language and she has yet to meet ANYONE that does or claim it. This is a woman from the town in question member of a group meant for IGBOS.

If she saw herself as yoruba then why informing someone else they do not speak Yoruba.

I'm sill waiting for ANY OLUKUMI KING presentation im ANY Yoruba celebration? Why are you avoiding this simple task. They are yoruba right according to your desperation then you should SEVERAL attendance if yoruba events they went just like i do for our community. Hell let's make it easy...show ANY yoruba traditional event the Ugbodu king have went to or sent any representative. I'm still desperately waiting for this simple task?

It is not my in law mentioned. I mentioned multiple olukumi celebrities who never claimed y'all or denounced igbo when called igbo. Perfect example was zeal who was a member of a dominated yoruba group and never once denouced the igbo boy title of styl plus title given to him

Still waiting for the well known olukumi that called themselves yoruba
Still waiting for any time the olukumi king attemded yoruba events to show your attache by force as yoruba

Waiting

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by rlauncher(m): 10:14pm On Mar 16, 2018
igbodefender:


Explain why these people safely tucked inside Igbo Land if they are not Igbos.

Explain why an Ugbo title Yasara is also present in many parts of Anioma Igbo Land as Iysara, Iyasele, etc.

Just because somebody adopt your culture does not amount to that person being indigenous to your ancestry.

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by delpee(f): 10:14pm On Mar 16, 2018
Alfaab:


There is nothing like oyoroba that you formed out of the air.
This is how Yoruba came by..


History of the Yoruba:
Decoding the History of Yoruba
within the meanings of
language and the symbols
One of the things that is
very consistent in the
History of Yoruba people
and family nations has been
that King Lamurudu was a
powerful hunter who had
several children and one of
them, Odua or Oduduwa the
last child, became the
founding ancestor of the
Yoruba people and family
nations.
Our prehistory is based on
oral traditions and, like all
oral stories, subject to
change by omission and
commission -- after some
thousands years of told and
retold. When groups and
family nations have found
their niche and security
within the land, independent
of one another, different
stories about groups'
origins become more
fashionable.
And the advent of
colonialists did not help our
history. It was like the
'sermon on the mount' --
"Give ye not that which is
sacred to the dog, neither
cast your pearl before the
swine, for the swine would
trample them under their
feet and the dog would turn
and rend you." For some
thousands of years we have
given our history to alien
powers; as we use their
expertise and their language
to interpret and write about
who we were and are.
The situation was made
more complicated as
colonialists (another alien
powers) moved in and
assigned different alphabets
to the spoken words of
similar groups within group.
For example: Some groups
were assigned the letter C,
some got Z and another got
S -- for similar sounds. In
one similar sound, some
groups were assigned Ch, or
Sh, or, even S. Some group
received the K and others
received the Q for similar
sound, and so on and so
on. Each group accepted its
alien alphabets without
reexamination and change.
Furthermore, isolation of
groups from each other led
to different pronunciations
of words and their uses
took new, but related,
meanings.
Please allow me to digress
a moment. I went to see a
Ghanian colleague in
Richardson by Dallas in
Texas. He and I went out for
a couple of hours and, upon
return, his wife welcomed
us back home with the word
that sounded like Yoruba
"eku aabo,"which means
"welcome" in Yoruba. But I
was wrong. She was
speaking her Ghana
language when she said
"akwaaba," which means
"welcome." Another group in
Ghana spells the same word
"aquaaba."Our languages
and symbols, highly codified
by our ancestors in order to
promote survival, could be
very useful in determining
our true history.
We must look at prehistory
and other available
references from ancient
times related to oral
prehistory and our cultural
symbols to correct the
mistakes in written history.
Last year I wrote: "The
Yoruba language is
excellent in what is called
"euphony." Euphony is a
method by which one makes
a phonetic change to make
a word or phrase more
pleasant to hear or
pronounce. For example, in
Yoruba, "li" or "ni" can
interchange. Some Yoruba
ethnic can say "ni ana" or "li
ana" which means "as of
yesterday." "Ni oni" or "li
oni" which means "as of
today." For the sake of
euphony, both phrases
become "lana" and "loni"
respectively. Now, let us
apply the same to Nimrod,
Nam'Ur-ud and the father of
O'dua -- Lamurudu.
First, take out all vowels in
each name. Nimrod will
become NMRD, Nam'Ur-ud
will become NMRD. For the
sake of euphony, replace
the "L" in Lamurudu with N
and you have NMRD.
Lamurudu was the
beginning of ena; the
inversion or change of
letters, words, syllables or
sentences in order that the
sense is disguised.
Lamurudu is thus
concealed.
It has now become an
instinctual response for the
Yoruba to trigger the "u"
sense upon contact with
Arabic names, which have
their root in Aramaic, the
language of the Canaanites.
Ask yourself this question:
How did the Greek come to
have the "Staff of Orion" and
the Yoruba also have the
"Opa Oranyan?" Orion and
Oranyan are the same but
utter confusion.
But our elders would
exaggerate some words.
Oranyan (Orion) became
Oranmiyan -- the same utter
confusion. The Greek and
the Hebrew borrowed a lot
from their Canaanite
masters from prehistory.
The art of writing came from
the Canaanites. The Hebrew,
the Arabic and the Greek
borrowed from the
Canaanite. Some older
dictionaries would let you
know that.
But modern dictionaries
have begun to omit the
Canaanite as first in writing.
And that is purposeful. For
example, the letter "O" is
used by the Canaanite to
mean "end or completion." It
is "omega" in Greek which
means "end." The word "dua"
is Aramaic/Arabic for
"prayer" or "supplicate
before God." In Arabic "Ya"
is "O." Therefore if you
named your child "Ya'dua"
and I named my child
"O'dua," we are both
thanking God for answering
our prayers for giving us the
child we want.
The name is usually given to
the expected last born son.
In modern Yoruba, a'dua has
acquired the letter "r" to
become "adura. "Following
the deluge, after a few
thousand years with the
kingdom under water and
under deserts, other people,
including the Hebrew,
invaded with confidence to
take over the land gradually
because the great king was
gone. The Canaanites
scattered under different
names to hide because of
persecution, genocide,
splinter groups and within
group fighting. One group
became Yoruba, which was
'Yerubbaal' -- the 'People of
Baal'. Baal was a
monotheistic God.
With new names for the one
and only God, the word
'Baal' was absorbed from
the Canaanite into Hebrew
to mean 'lord or master of
the house' and it is the
same as 'baale' in Yoruba.
The people further changed
the identity of Baal to
Shango.
Please make the effort to go
to a good museum where
you can find the drawing of
the Canaanite God Baal and
compare it with any statue
of Shango. And for that
matter, we should compare
the sculptures and arts of
the Canaanites
(Phoenicians) with that of
the Yoruba, Benin, Asante
and others for similarities.
And we should not allow
any stolen history found in
the Old Testament cause us
to shy away from our
prehistory. The Canaanite
word "ilu" gave us Olu, Eli
and Ala. The same people
gave us "ob" from which
Obd, Abd and Oba came.
For example in the Bible, we
have OBADIAH which is
"servant of God." It is
oxymoron when our Yoruba
ministers call God "Olorun-
oba." the Owner of the
Heaven cannot also be
called the servant. Olorun
by itself is a great attribute
for God. Oba in prehistory
was the servant of the
people appointed by the
King to administer his
territories -- conquered or
acquired. At that time, Obas
were like Governor Generals
under the British rule in our
present day. They were not
meant to equal the status of
the king.
In the same line of
conversation, the deity
"Obatala" in Yoruba was the
'servant of God' and God is
'Ala Ta Ala' in Islam. The
time is now for our
linguists, lexicologists,
educators and simply
ordinary persons to help
update the Yoruba
Dictionary to include the
roots and origins of words.
Our alphabets, developed by
a European anthropologist,
only put us further away
from our origin, especially
those letters that carry a dot
along with them.
Take for an example, the
letter 'O' as in 'imo' and
'ino'. Both words mean
'light'. But in Aramaic and
Arabic, the words 'light' will
be 'ur' and 'nur'. Let us
declare our own Age of
Enlightenment with the new
millennium.
Author: M. Kayode Oladale
Molake


Thanks for this detailed insight. We keep learning.

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by gmoni2(m): 10:20pm On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
the Roman named German the Songhai scholar Ahmed baba coined the name Yoruba not Hausa and was popularized by the Hausa only. We are omo ododuwa ile yoruba oni baje oo kiss my ass osu pig

the Songhai people and the sarakunle of Mali were the first outsider that the Yoruba started to trade with, we have a lot in common.

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by rlauncher(m): 10:22pm On Mar 16, 2018
Nonaira1:


Ngozi is Olukumi, Ugbodu PRICESLY.

Osita is NOT from ugbodu. Osita is Ndokwa. Osita, a non ugbodu, mentioned they speak yoruba. ngozi who is Ugbodu aka olukumi aka the community in question informed him they DO NOT speak the language and she has yet to meet ANYONE that does or claim it. This is a woman from the town in question member of a group meant for IGBOS.

If she saw herself as yoruba then why informing someone else they do not speak Yoruba.

I'm sill waiting for ANY OLUKUMNI KING prsentation im ANY Yoruba celeberation? Why are you avoiding this simple task. They are yoruba right according to your desperation then you should SEVERAL attendance if yoruba events they went just like i do for our community. Hell let's make it easy...show ANY yoruba traditional event the Ugbodu king have went to or sent any representative. I'm still desperately waiting for this simple task?

It is not my in law mentioned. I mentioned multiple olukumi celebrities who never claimed y'all or denounced igbo when called igbo. Perfect example was zeal who was a member of a dominated yoruba group and never once denouced the igbo boy title of styl plus title given to him

Still waiting for the well known olukumi that called themselves yoruba
Still waiting for any time the olukumi king attemded yoruba events to show your attache by forve as yoruba

Waiting

We leant from history that after the Benin Kingdom invasion of parts of Yorubaland eastward, the surviving Yoruba tribes had to devise a means of survival which includes adopting some of the customs of their new overlords or neighbours to outrightly openly denying their identity in order to survive, such that overtime, some of them started believing that they were never of Yoruba ancestry.

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by rlauncher(m): 10:31pm On Mar 16, 2018
Nonaira1:


Osita is NOT from ugbodu. Osita is Ndokwa. Osita, a non ugbodu, mentioned they speak yoruba. ngozi who is Ugbodu aka olukumi aka the community in question informed him they DO NOT speak the language and she has yet to meet ANYONE that does. This is a woman from the town in question member of a group meant for IGBOS.

If she saw herself as yoruba then she she informing someone else they do not speak Yoruba

I'm sill waiting for ANY OLUKUMNI KING prsentation im ANY Yoruba celeberation? Why are you avoiding this simple task. They are yoruba right according to your desperation then you should SEVERAL attendance if yoruba events they went just like i do for our community. Hell let's make it easy...show ANY yoruba traditional event the Ugbodu king have went to or sent any representative. I'm still desperately waiting for this simple task?



Many people in Edo and Delta are completely unaware of their Yoruba ancestry largely because they have been assimilated into their surrounding cultures. We know from our ancient history that Yorubaland extended from the coast of Ghana to Warri, Delta state, Nigeria. Not many people know that the Twi people of Ghana are Yoruba. The Cotonou and Ajase people of Benin Republic as well.

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nonaira1: 10:34pm On Mar 16, 2018
rlauncher:


Many people in Edo and Delta are completely unaware of their Yoruba ancestry largely because they have been assimilated into their surrounding cultures. We know from our ancient history that Yorubaland extended from the coast of Ghana to Warri, Delta state, Nigeria.

Blah blah

All I know is una keep your desperation OUT of aniomaland. Simple!!

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:45pm On Mar 16, 2018
Nonaira1:


Osita is NOT from ugbodu. Osita is Ndokwa. Osita, a non ugbodu, mentioned they speak yoruba. ngozi who is Ugbodu aka olukumi aka the community in question informed him they DO NOT speak the language and she has yet to meet ANYONE that does. This is a woman from the town in question member of a group meant for IGBOS.

If she saw herself as yoruba then she she informing someone else they do not speak Yoruba

I'm sill waiting for ANY OLUKUMNI KING prsentation im ANY Yoruba celeberation? Why are you avoiding this simple task. They are yoruba right according to your desperation then you should SEVERAL attendance if yoruba events they went just like i do for our community. Hell let's make it easy...show ANY yoruba traditional event the Ugbodu king have went to or sent any representative. I'm still desperately waiting for this simple task?

stop lying how did u know who is from where in the Facebook snapshot u posted. She said the language was going extinct not that it’s not spoken. There is not a lot of olukumi information online but listen to their king they speak olukumi there

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:47pm On Mar 16, 2018
Nonaira1:


Blah blah

All I know is una keep your desperation OUT of aniomaland. Simple!!
u are not fromany olukumi town so shut up and don’t speak for them. They know their history and they tell it with Yoruba involved

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by rlauncher(m): 10:50pm On Mar 16, 2018
Nonaira1:


Blah blah

All I know is una keep your desperation OUT of aniomaland. Simple!!


No one is desperate OK.We are just discussing history, putting record straight. Who or whatever Olukumi people believe or chose to be is up to them and OK by us. We don't dream annexation. Even if Nigeria is to split today (which is never going to happen), we the proud Yoruba people will not compel anyone to go along with us. We are not planning secession like the Biafrans.

Long live the Federal Republic of Nigeria

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by Nobody: 10:53pm On Mar 16, 2018
Nonaira1:


So I should post in my law-ins contact on NL for you to duaturb HIM. Pay attention to wtf you read. I have said repeatedly it's my sister's HUSBAND.

Anyway, here's a post made by Ugbodu insulting their king after the NL post made wave.

In addition, pay attention when osita mentioned ugbodu speaks yoruba, the reply of an Ugbodu person in proudly anioma, proudly igbo stated tongue emphasis she's a member of PROUDLY ANIOMA, PROUDLY IGBO

Finally, I'm still waiting on the yoruba events attended by olukumi kings. Waiting!!
real profile first one second one osu created fake profile

Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by rlauncher(m): 10:55pm On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
stop lying how did u know who is from where in the Facebook snapshot u posted. She said the language was going extinct not that it’s not spoken. There is not a lot of olukumi information online but listen to their king they speak olukumi there

Don't mind nonaira1.

These people have been separated from their Yoruba kith and kin for centuries, associating only with their surrounding cultures. It is even a miracle that they have not completely lost their language.

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Re: How Did The Olukumin People Accept A Hausa Derogatory Term As Their Name? by rlauncher(m): 10:58pm On Mar 16, 2018
Thetruthsayer10:
u are not fromany olukumi town so shut up and don’t speak for them. They know their history and they tell it with Yoruba involved

It just occurred to me that she may not be indigenous to Olukumi.

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