Daejoyoung:

Well not all Nigerians are escaping, and there are of course many in the country making it better as well.
l am just against this narrative that Nigerians are looked down on abroad, an oft repeated fallacy.

Jkay187:


Now let me tell you a fact about Nigerians in SA. More often then not there are two types of Nigerians who come to SA.

1 Are those who come here to look for work, study at our world class institutions or start there own businesses and those are in the minority. They come with degrees to SA and more often then not those qualifications are not recordnized by SAQA in SA and they need to be reskilled or write exams in order for them to become medical practitioners or whatever field they practice in. More often then not those with degrees are not qualified and they are the ones who illegal medical practitioners in SA.

2 Are those who come from your Igbo clans and come here more often then not with no formal education. They are the majority who come here with criminal intent and they are the most hated here in SA because of there activities which more often are in drug dealing, fraud or socalled front shops while committing other crimes like prostitution rings and human trafficking. There are more then 600 Nigerians in SA jails for criminal acts.

Now let's look at Hillbrow or Sunnyside where most Nigerians live in SA. Those places are being run down by property hijacking, drugs and prostitution mostly mostly run by Nigerian nationals and that's a fact.

Yes not all Nigerians abroad can be categorized as criminals where they migrate to but it is an undeniable fact that most of you will end up doing illegal activity wherever they reside. A simple example would be the way Nigerians are being perceived in countries like India, Singapore, China and Thailand go see how many are on death row in those nations and then compare those stats to the rest of africa.

Funnyman:


I am a busy man, I dont have time to type but my pictures will tell people situation on ground in SA. If I post my last experience in SA, some people might think I am being biased but I will let facts from different SA websites be the judge.

Funnyman:



I am very objective and we never argue blindly. NIGERIA IS A DEVELOPING COUNTRY WITH ITS OWN PROBLEM I AGREE *BUT BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS ARE NEVER BETTER THAN NIGERIANS. I WILL PICK MY NIGERIAN HERITACGE OVER AND OVER YOU LOTS*

Funnyman:
Speaking on literacy rate. People who can read and write does not translate to people who are educated. Nigerians are more educated than South Africans. Hardly, will a Nigerian settle for high school without furthering education to University level. Our challenge in figures come from Northern Nigeria.

Centrifude:


I'm a black South African, I'm very, very happy with my life in South Africa.

I can genuinely guarantee you that Majority of Black South Africans Mostly don't care or even know what the Capital City of Nigeria is.

Most S.A people are very ignorant to Nigeria and when you say Nigeria, the first thing that comes to their minds are Drug Dealers, Boko Haram, Bring Back our Girls, Internet Scams, oh jah and Nollywood and your Music Artists.

But in my 24yrs alive and being around Black South Africans who come from different backgrounds, I've never, ever heard a single one of them say that they wish they were like Nigerians.

I've heard people talk about wanting to move to Ghana, Kenya, Morocco, Algeria, Ethiopia...but never Nigeria.

I won't lie I do admit the fact that South Africans do love some of your products.. Like Movies & Music, and I for one find Nigerian women to be very attractive, I like some of your Music, I love this Forum that has given me a chance to communicate with Africans from other countries, BUT just because we like your products it doesn't mean we are jealous or want to be like you.

Jkay187:


Now let me tell you a fact about Nigerians in SA. More often then not there are two types of Nigerians who come to SA.

1 Are those who come here to look for work, study at our world class institutions or start there own businesses and those are in the minority. They come with degrees to SA and more often then not those qualifications are not recordnized by SAQA in SA and they need to be reskilled or write exams in order for them to become medical practitioners or whatever field they practice in. More often then not those with degrees are not qualified and they are the ones who illegal medical practitioners in SA.

2 Are those who come from your Igbo clans and come here more often then not with no formal education. They are the majority who come here with criminal intent and they are the most hated here in SA because of there activities which more often are in drug dealing, fraud or socalled front shops while committing other crimes like prostitution rings and human trafficking. There are more then 600 Nigerians in SA jails for criminal acts.

Now let's look at Hillbrow or Sunnyside where most Nigerians live in SA. Those places are being run down by property hijacking, drugs and prostitution mostly mostly run by Nigerian nationals and that's a fact.

Yes not all Nigerians abroad can be categorized as criminals where they migrate to but it is an undeniable fact that most of you will end up doing illegal activity wherever they reside. A simple example would be the way Nigerians are being perceived in countries like India, Singapore, China and Thailand go see how many are on death row in those nations and then compare those stats to the rest of africa.

Jkay187:


Now let me tell you a fact about Nigerians in SA. More often then not there are two types of Nigerians who come to SA.
]1 Are those who come here to look for work, study at our world class institutions or start there own businesses and those are in the minority. They come with degrees to SA and more often then not those qualifications are not recordnized by SAQA in SA and they need to be reskilled or write exams in order for them to become medical practitioners or whatever field they practice in. More often then not those with degrees are not qualified and they are the ones who illegal medical practitioners in SA.

Jkay187:

2 Are those who come from your Igbo clans and come here more often then not with no formal education. They are the majority who come here with criminal intent and they are the most hated here in SA because of there activities which more often are in drug dealing, fraud or socalled front shops while committing other crimes like prostitution rings and human trafficking. There are more then 600 Nigerians in SA jails for criminal acts.

Now let's look at Hillbrow or Sunnyside where most Nigerians live in SA. Those places are being run down by property hijacking, drugs and prostitution mostly mostly run by Nigerian nationals and that's a fact.

Jkay187:

Yes not all Nigerians abroad can be categorized as criminals where they migrate to but it is an undeniable fact that most of you will end up doing illegal activity wherever they reside. A simple example would be the way Nigerians are being perceived in countries like India, Singapore, China and Thailand go see how many are on death row in those nations and then compare those stats to the rest of africa.

Jkay187:


On the Hiv front your people are currently worse of then SA by all indices because we have a far better health system then yours including we test more people and unlike Nigeria we have gotten over the Hiv stigma. How many people are being tested in nigeria on a daily bases.

In Nigeria non of your politicians use your health systems, Buhari is a casing point. How many of your Leaders died in Foreign nations is another good indicator.

Let's stop this bs now.

morpheus24:


Again facts without contextualizing.

The indices currently is 1 in 4 people in South Africa are potential HIV carriers, which points to the fact that if you count 4 people you know or they count 4 people they know 1 of them is potentially HIV positive or knows someone who is HIV positive, In my experiences interacting with SA , I find this statistic to be a good estimate. This extrapolation does not necessarily need the reporting of HIV statistics to prove its authencity.

Compare apples with apples and relativity to relativity.

Nigeria has a population of 170 million, in absolute terms its potential to have more HIV cases is larger compared to the population size of South africa, in relative terms it is easier for you to become HIV infected if you sleep with someone from South Africa, good health care or no good health care.

Shikena!

MduZA:


95% of so called natural deaths in nigeria are caused by Hiv-aids related illnesses,with only 1 percent of Nigerian population tested,your country is sitting at position 2 world wide with the highest number of people living with hiv..

shervydman:

Can u prove this with a credible source??

MduZA:


95% of so called natural deaths in nigeria are caused by Hiv-aids related illnesses,with only 1 percent of Nigerian population tested,your country is sitting at position 2 world wide with the highest number of people living with hiv..

LeSudAfricaine:
Don't you guys get tired of talking about South Africa, God Jesus!! it's becoming boring!

Jkay187:


Despite global efforts to reduce the mortality rate of
tuberculosis, TB, Nigeria still ranks high among the
seven countries which account majorly for the
disease globally.
Nigeria ranked sixth among the countries with the
global burden. Two of the major challenges (for
Nigeria) have been the inability to detect cases and
the battle against drug resistant variants of the
ailment especially among people living with HIV/
AIDS.
According to the global TB report 2017 released by
World Health Organisation, WHO on Monday, there
were an estimated 10.4 million new TB cases
worldwide in 2016, 10 per cent of which were people
living with HIV/AIDS.
Of these new cases, seven countries are noted to
account for 64 per cent of the total burden. India
topped the chart followed by Indonesia, China,
Philippines, Pakistan, Nigeria and South Africa.
An estimated 1.7 million people died from TB,
including nearly 400 000 people who were co-
infected with HIV. The WHO said there has been a
drop by 4 per cent compared to 2015.
The health agency said global efforts to combat
tuberculosis had saved an estimated 53 million lives
since 2000 and reduced the TB mortality rate by 37
per cent.
WHO said despite these achievements, the latest
picture is grim.
It said TB remains the top infectious killer in 2016
and that it is also the main cause of deaths related to
antimicrobial resistance and the leading killer of
people with HIV. Progress in most countries is
stalling and is not fast enough to reach global targets
or close persistent gaps in TB care and prevention.
Also, according to the National Tuberculosis and
Leprosy Control Programme, over 80 per cent of TB
cases were still undetected.
Tedros Ghebreyesus, Director General of WHO, said
while the world has committed to ending the TB
epidemic by 2030, actions and investments do not
match the political rhetoric.
He said multidrug-resistant TB (MDR-TB) remains a
public health crisis and a health security threat.
WHO estimates that there were 600 000 new cases
with resistance to rifampicin – the most effective first-
line drug, of which 490 000 had MDR-TB. Almost
half of these cases were in India, China and the
Russian Federation.
The report argued for rigorous care and financing in
tackling the epidemic especially in subset of high TB
burden countries; as underreporting and under-
diagnosis of TB cases continue to be a challenge,
especially in countries with large unregulated private
sectors and weak health systems.
Also, according to the report, of the estimated 10.4
million new cases, only 6.3 million were detected and
officially notified in 2016, leaving a gap of 4.1
million. India, Indonesia and Nigeria accounted for
almost half of this global gap.
Mario Raviglione, Director of the WHO Global TB
Programme said ”the sheer numbers of deaths and
suffering speak for themselves and countries are not
accelerating fast enough.”
”Prompt action towards universal health coverage
and social protection, as well as breakthroughs in
research and innovations – will be critical to enable
access to patient-centred care of the highest standards
for all, especially the poorest, most disadvantaged
people everywhere”, he said.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/247760-despite-global-efforts-tb-mortality-still-high-nigeria-others.html

In the report it clearly shows Nigeria has an inability to detect.

morpheus24:


Dubious analysis of the report you just read.

What the report is alluding to or insinuating is towards access to health care which lowers the chances of recording TB cases. How you find the nexus between HIB prevalent rates in Nigeria compared to South Africa, I am still scratching my head on that one.

In absolute numbers, Nigeria will always have a higher HIV rate than South Africa if that is the point you are trying to make but in relative terms the probability of getting infected with HIV is much higher if you sleep with a South African person because its a 1 in chance.

The treatment of HIV or access to health care services is a different animal on its own.

Shikena

Jkay187:


Now morphy u just eluded to the fact that Nigeria has higher HIV numbers in total so that proves my point that some of your Naija brothers here are wrong when they come here and tell us whenever we argue or have a discussion that SA is hiv infested.

Jkay187:

When looking at SA's access to hiv treatment it is currently the worlds biggest, now compare that to Nigeria and its access to treatment and stigma attached to hiv in nigeria especially in the North of your country it is safe to say you have a higher disease burden then SA if we include factors like TB also.

Until you can prove that Nigeria as a nation has better access to primary health care compared to SA, you must agree that your brothers in arms here on this thread is wrong.

morpheus24:


Good day Mduza, Long time no hear your bull crap.

let me rebut your nonsensical statements

Point 1. Your 95% assumption is pure speculation, you cannot provide a shred of evidence to back that ridiculous statement. If you said 10 to 15% that would have been more plausible so lets throw that out the window.

THe second statistical figure is also nonsensical, even if 1 percent of Nigerians tested for HIV, a statistician could still extrapolate the potential numbers of HIV vicitms over a given period of time which would les to near accurate numbers coming out as the potential HIV infection rate in Nigeria, as they did when the ebola virus hit the country so chuck your point number two out the window


Go back to school instead of hanging out all day at Chis nyama drinking beer and faking your "blesser" status

shervydman:

Can u prove this with a credible source??

MduZA:


It will be a futile exercise since you will deny when I tell you that Johannesburg is in south Africa

shervydman:

May sense locate u wherever u are.

shervydman:

May sense locate u wherever u are.

MduZA:


You cant provide your country stats either therefore your writeup is just another boy dream who is tired of having Egusi soap breakfast..You will scream on top of your voice when I tell you " ukuthi" you don't even know your own hiv status..HIV is rife in Nigeria..fact

morpheus24:


You are a big Mumu!

Bantu education.

Jkay187:


Now let me tell you a fact about Nigerians in SA. More often then not there are two types of Nigerians who come to SA.

1 Are those who come here to look for work, study at our world class institutions or start there own businesses and those are in the minority. They come with degrees to SA and more often then not those qualifications are not recordnized by SAQA in SA and they need to be reskilled or write exams in order for them to become medical practitioners or whatever field they practice in. More often then not those with degrees are not qualified and they are the ones who illegal medical practitioners in SA.

2 Are those who come from your Igbo clans and come here more often then not with no formal education. They are the majority who come here with criminal intent and they are the most hated here in SA because of there activities which more often are in drug dealing, fraud or socalled front shops while committing other crimes like prostitution rings and human trafficking. There are more then 600 Nigerians in SA jails for criminal acts.

Now let's look at Hillbrow or Sunnyside where most Nigerians live in SA. Those places are being run down by property hijacking, drugs and prostitution mostly mostly run by Nigerian nationals and that's a fact.

Yes not all Nigerians abroad can be categorized as criminals where they migrate to but it is an undeniable fact that most of you will end up doing illegal activity wherever they reside. A simple example would be the way Nigerians are being perceived in countries like India, Singapore, China and Thailand go see how many are on death row in those nations and then compare those stats to the rest of africa.

zinaunreal:


Shove all this points into your ass. Its always going to be about Nigeria wether you useless African countries like it or not

Jkay187:


The signs of severe Hemorrhoid Bleeding here.

Jkay187:


Now let me tell you a fact about Nigerians in SA. More often then not there are two types of Nigerians who come to SA.

1 Are those who come here to look for work, study at our world class institutions or start there own businesses and those are in the minority. They come with degrees to SA and more often then not those qualifications are not recordnized by SAQA in SA and they need to be reskilled or write exams in order for them to become medical practitioners or whatever field they practice in. More often then not those with degrees are not qualified and they are the ones who illegal medical practitioners in SA.

2 Are those who come from your Igbo clans and come here more often then not with no formal education. They are the majority who come here with criminal intent and they are the most hated here in SA because of there activities which more often are in drug dealing, fraud or socalled front shops while committing other crimes like prostitution rings and human trafficking. There are more then 600 Nigerians in SA jails for criminal acts.

Now let's look at Hillbrow or Sunnyside where most Nigerians live in SA. Those places are being run down by property hijacking, drugs and prostitution mostly mostly run by Nigerian nationals and that's a fact.

Yes not all Nigerians abroad can be categorized as criminals where they migrate to but it is an undeniable fact that most of you will end up doing illegal activity wherever they reside. A simple example would be the way Nigerians are being perceived in countries like India, Singapore, China and Thailand go see how many are on death row in those nations and then compare those stats to the rest of africa.

zinaunreal:
South africans gerrout. If not for the whites your country is nothing. Blacks there are barbaric as barbaric as barbaric can be. Killer squad country. You kill people and have the guts to say youre developed. Bunch of lunatics. Develop your mentality first. The most violent country in Africa. Or is it the fact that homosexuals are openly accepted in that Godless country thats what makes you most developed. Then why are you ripping the consequences health wise. AIDS EVERYWHERE. RAPISTS EVERYWHERE. ADDICTS EVERYWHERE. GANGS EVERYWHERE . RUBISSHHHHHHHHHHH