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Amberon11:
Yes God will only protect people that do according to his will just as you will only pass a free and fair exam only by studying. If you have nothing else to say you can exit the thread.

Lol, why are you angry

Oya explain, how come in Exodus 9:6 God slaughtered all the livestock of Egypt

Exod.9.6 - So the LORD did this thing on the next day, and all the livestock of Egypt died; but of the livestock of the children of Israel, not one died.

But in Exodus 12:29, God again slaughtered the firstborn of all livestock of Egypt lol

Where did god find more livestock to slaughter since he had already slaughtered all in Exodus 9:6

Who edited the Bible abeg, the person did a very poor job

@op iamwhat the question is also for you

Explain, how come in Exodus 9:6 God slaughtered all the livestock of Egypt

Exod.9.6 - So the LORD did this thing on the next day, and all the livestock of Egypt died; but of the livestock of the children of Israel, not one died.

But in Exodus 12:29, God again slaughtered the firstborn of all livestock of Egypt lol

Where did god find more livestock to slaughter since he had already slaughtered all in Exodus 9:6

iamwhat:
Let me help you understand your question, your question is:

"What's the essence of prison and if you were government would you create punishments knowing that many would err? "

Am sure you know the essence of law and you definitely know there won't be punishments without laws ?

Do you know Law creates orderliness and law creates punishments as well? Am sure you do.

Without law everything would be in disarray that's why you have code of conducts at your workplace to ensure achievements of set goals.

Interestingly, punishment is a great motivation to obey laws.

Now answer these questions:
Did you company know many would err at following the code of conducts ?


Do they push workers to err or workers err at their own discretion ?

Do they create the laws because they enjoy sacking/punishing worker that errs?

Do they leave workers with a choice to err or not ?

Are there workers that erred and were sacked ?

Do we have workers that stay in the organisation until retirement ?

Do Evans (The Kidnapper) had the choice to be free than to currently be in detention ?

Can you decide to live the remaining of your life in prison ?

Let me help you answer the last question; YES! and it's very easy, in fact you can achieve it NOW! all you need to do is to commit a jail worthy crime and you'll be there in a jiffy; You're currently free because you chose to be free!
Just as you chose to be free, you can also choose to make heaven instead of hell....

In conclusion, everyone that goes to hell chose it, do they have the choice to not be there ? DEFINITELY!
Is it God's fault that they chose to be there ? NO!

wrong comparison
Do you think if gov. has way to fix everything so perfectly they would still prefer building prisons for offenders
All knowing creator build an eternal toture for 98% of world population, people who didn't give their permission before creation yet he is merciful and kind cos the blame is ours
I'm sure you know there are animals that came into the world just to suffer, die and dissappear all made possible by the Same creator

allenbaker5:
@op iamwhat the question is also for you

Explain, how come in Exodus 9:6 God slaughtered all the livestock of Egypt

Exod.9.6 - So the LORD did this thing on the next day, and all the livestock of Egypt died; but of the livestock of the children of Israel, not one died.

But in Exodus 12:29, God again slaughtered the firstborn of all livestock of Egypt lol

Where did god find more livestock to slaughter since he had already slaughtered all in Exodus 9:6

Am sorry am asking you questions as an answer to you question.

What was the time interval between the two plagues ? and how long do you think the Egyptian would take to raise new livestock since their feeding almost depend on livestock ?

iamwhat:
Am sorry am asking you questions as an answer to you question.

What was the time interval between the two plagues ? and how long do you think the Egyptian would take to raise new livestock since their feeding almost depend on livestock ?

Raise new livestock from what brother? Animals aren't plants that you only need seeds to get another. You god slaughtered ALL livestock that belonged to the Egyptians. Where would they have gotten livestock to raise? The Bible doesn't record that they stole livestock from the Egyptians.

And if the Egyptians could raise livestock from nothing, that means god's plague made no sense any way since the bad guys always had their ways of getting their animals backs.

Either that or those who wrote the Bible forgot that they had already reported god killed all in an earlier passage.

I recommend the con men who'll write the next religious book hire good editors, mistakes like this won't be happening

obinna58:
wrong comparison
Do you think if gov. has way to fix everything so perfectly they would still prefer building prisons for offenders
All knowing creator build an eternal toture for 98% of world population, people who didn't give their permission before creation yet he is merciful and kind cos the blame is ours
I'm sure you know there are animals that came into the world just to suffer, die and dissappear all made possible by the Same creator

I doubt you've read my previous answers and if you've read them and you're still asking these questions, then you just want to argue unnecessarily and am sorry I might not answer your next question if it's just another repetition.

Do Toshiba seeks Asimo's (Robot) permission before creating it, do they even need to ?

Do you seek your phone's permission before acquiring or using it ?

Your problem is that, you're seeing yourself bigger than what you're.

Why should a creator seeks a creation's (an inexisting object) permission before creating it ?
Please be civilized with your thoughts.

The same people that blame Saudi Arabian government for their many restrictions are blaming God for not imposing many restrictions on us.

We all celebrate democracy and freedom yet we want God to be a dictator.

Why blame God for giving us free will ?

Do 98% people have the choice to make heaven or not ?

allenbaker5:
Raise new livestock from what brother? Animals aren't plants that you only need seeds to get another. You god slaughtered ALL livestock that belonged to the Egyptians. Where would they have gotten livestock to raise? The Bible doesn't record that they stole livestock from the Egyptians.

And if the Egyptians could raise livestock from nothing, that means god's plague made no sense any way since the bad guys always had their ways of getting their animals backs.

Either that or those who wrote the Bible forgot that they had already reported god killed all in an earlier passage.

I recommend the con men who'll write the next religious book hire good editors, mistakes like this won't be happening

What led The Israelites to Egypt ?
To get the food they don't have and take them back to Canaan right ?
That means they can easily go to neighbouring countries and get what they don't have.

Do we produce phones in Nigeria ?
How come we all have phones ?

Oh please! be critical with your critiques.

Did the Bible says God killed the livestock of everywhere Egyptians could easily get livestock?

Why don't you ask yourself and understand the purpose of the plagues, if God wanted to kill all Egyptians He would have done it to ease Israelites' migration.

If you want to bring contradictions in the Bible this is definitely not one of them.

Get God's Word

iamwhat:
What led The Israelites to Egypt ?
To get the food they don't have and take them back to Canaan right ?
That means they can easily go to neighbouring countries and get what they don't have.

Do we produce phones in Nigeria ?
How come we all have phones ?

Oh please! be critical with your critiques.

Did the Bible says God killed the livestock of everywhere Egyptians could easily get livestock?

Why don't you ask yourself and understand the purpose of the plagues, if God wanted to kill all Egyptians He would have done it to ease Israelites' migration.

If you want to bring contradictions in the Bible this is definitely not one of them.

Just listen to yourself, if they could always get livestock from other places, then god's plague was useless.

god killing their livestock was meant to deny them of meat for food and of course money when they sold same.

If they could always get livestock from elsewhere then god was wasting his time.

If I seize your phone to stop you from using phones but you have a big bag of phones in your brother's room where you can get a phone each time I seize a different one from you, Would I have truly stopped you from using a phone? No, I would have wasted my time because there's always a place you can get a new phone to replace the old one.

So if that's your point, then god was clearly wasting his time and didn't know what he was doing. That means even the "2nd" time where he again slaughtered the first born of livestock was a waste of his time since the Egyptians were always going to get livestock from outside.

So was your god clueless in Egypt? Was he wasting his time each time he sent a plague to consume livestock? If that's what you're saying then You and I agree your god is clueless.

iamwhat:
I doubt you've read my previous answers and if you've read them and you're still asking these questions, then you just want to argue unnecessarily and am sorry I might not answer your next question if it's just another repetition.

Do Toshiba seeks Asimo's (Robot) permission before creating it, do they even need to ?

Do you seek your phone's permission before acquiring or using it ?

Your problem is that, you're seeing yourself bigger than what you're.

Why should a creator seeks a creation's (an inexisting object) permission before creating it ?
Please be civilized with your thoughts.

The same people that blame Saudi Arabian government for their many restrictions are blaming God for not imposing many restrictions on us.

We all celebrate democracy and freedom yet we want God to be a dictator.

Why blame God for giving us free will ?

Do 98% people have the choice to make heaven or not ?

Blah blah blah
Does God has the choice to make things right or not

allenbaker5:
Lol, why are you angry

Oya explain, how come in Exodus 9:6 God slaughtered all the livestock of Egypt

Exod.9.6 - So the LORD did this thing on the next day, and all the livestock of Egypt died; but of the livestock of the children of Israel, not one died.

But in Exodus 12:29, God again slaughtered the firstborn of all livestock of Egypt lol

Where did god find more livestock to slaughter since he had already slaughtered all in Exodus 9:6

Who edited the Bible abeg, the person did a very poor job

Based on most of the scriptures, especially Ezekiel 23, they were into porn as well.

iamwhat:
I doubt you've read my previous answers and if you've read them and you're still asking these questions, then you just want to argue unnecessarily and am sorry I might not answer your next question if it's just another repetition.

Do Toshiba seeks Asimo's (Robot) permission before creating it, do they even need to ?

Do you seek your phone's permission before acquiring or using it ?

Your problem is that, you're seeing yourself bigger than what you're.

Why should a creator seeks a creation's (an inexisting object) permission before creating it ?
Please be civilized with your thoughts.

The same people that blame Saudi Arabian government for their many restrictions are blaming God for not imposing many restrictions on us.

We all celebrate democracy and freedom yet we want God to be a dictator.

Why blame God for giving us free will ?

Do 98% people have the choice to make heaven or not ?

This is the problem with Christianity like someone pointed out,the christians don't take the bible to mean what it(the bible) says but they take the bible to say what he(the Christian) means

Where in the bible did it say or suggest that the time interval of the plague was long enough to allow the Egyptians travel to foreign countries and buy livestock and have them give birth to the "firstborns" which were slain the 2nd time. You are simply saying what is not in the bible.
This sought of mistake was repeated when the bible said that Jehovah slaughtered all the animals,yet the Egyptians were able to gather chariots from thin air to chase after the Israelites when they left

iamwhat:
What led The Israelites to Egypt ?
To get the food they don't have and take them back to Canaan right ?
That means they can easily go to neighbouring countries and get what they don't have.

Do we produce phones in Nigeria ?
How come we all have phones ?

Oh please! be critical with your critiques.

Did the Bible says God killed the livestock of everywhere Egyptians could easily get livestock?

Why don't you ask yourself and understand the purpose of the plagues, if God wanted to kill all Egyptians He would have done it to ease Israelites' migration.

If you want to bring contradictions in the Bible this is definitely not one of them.

There's literally no archaeological evidence of the Exodus ever happening. None of the ancient records or primary sources ever mention any references to Israelites being freed and/or escaping the land via miracles nor any natural disasters of the sort described. The story contradicts established fact.

allenbaker5:
Just listen to yourself, if they could always get livestock from other places, then god's plague was useless.

god killing their livestock was meant to deny them of meat for food and of course money when they sold same.

If they could always get livestock from elsewhere then god was wasting his time.

If I seize your phone to stop you from using phones but you have a big bag of phones in your brother's room where you can get a phone each time I seize a different one from you, Would I have truly stopped you from using a phone? No, I would have wasted my time because there's always a place you can get a new phone to replace the old one.

So if that's your point, then god was clearly wasting his time and didn't know what he was doing. That means even the "2nd" time where he again slaughtered the first born of livestock was a waste of his time since the Egyptians were always going to get livestock from outside
So was your god clueless in Egypt? Was he wasting his time each time he sent a plague to consume livestock? If that's what you're saying then You and I agree your god is clueless.

I don't have a god but God!

Oga, it's clear you don't understand the event; You just picked some few verses just for argument purposes and sincerely am not here to argue with you.

God's reason for the plagues was not to send Egypt into famine but was to show them how powerful He was (and still is); I told you to seek for understanding instead of dwelling on some few verses, You might have switched to Atheism because you rush at things you were supposed to take time to comprehend.

God intentionally hardened Pharaoh's heart just to ensure he resisted Israelites' freedom in order for God to perform the unthinkable miracles......

From every indications, the plagues were not meant to eradicate Egypt but to display the power of God to Israelites, Egyptians and the world.
He would have destroyed Egypt the same way he did to Sodom and Gomorrah if he wanted to eradicate them.

If you still want me to answer your questions, please make sure you avoid using mocking words and be constructive.

darkchild64:
This is the problem with Christianity like someone pointed out,the christians don't take the bible to mean what it(the bible) says but they take the bible to say what he(the Christian) means

Where in the bible did it say or suggest that the time interval of the plague was long enough to allow the Egyptians travel to foreign countries and buy livestock and have them give birth to the "firstborns" which were slain the 2nd time. You are simply saying what is not in the bible.
This sought of mistake was repeated when the bible said that Jehovah slaughtered all the animals,yet the Egyptians were able to gather chariots from thin air to chase after the Israelites when they left

Where in the Bible did it say the time interval was short ? and how are you saying what's in the Bible by concluding the time interval was short ?
Please be rational with your inference....

You guys problem is that you take Bible to be the same as your biology textbook;
THE BIBLE IS NOT LITERAL and you can never understand it by reading it as a mere book.

iamwhat:
Where in the Bible did it say the time interval was short ? and how are you saying what's in the Bible by concluding the time interval was short ?
Please be rational with your inference....

You guys problem is that you take Bible to be the same as your biology textbook;
THE BIBLE IS NOT LITERAL and you can never understand it by reading it as a mere book.

Of course the bible is not literal you can interpret it anyhow you like after all it is the holy spirit that gives you interpretation

It was easy and simple enough and Jesus Christ stated that himself. I'm assuming you know more than Jesus, no?

darkchild64:
these three are ONE is different from these three are ONE BEING

In the bible Jesus prayed that his disciples would be one,I'm sure you didn't take it to mean one being

Besides the bible passage you quoted said these THREE,if Jehovah,Jesus and the holy spirit are ONE BEING how come the bible refers to them as "THESE THREE"

p.s the holy trinity is crap that the romans instituted into Christianity,there is not sufficient evidence in the bible to explain that,meanwhile can you remind me what the first commandment is

GoodMuyis:
LOVES AND DIED FOR YOU

Are you angry

angry??
nobody died for my sake

Amberon11:
Shut up! There is ONE GOD.

How come the bible says thou shall have no other god before me?