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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by christejames(m): 6:06pm On Mar 31, 2018
TheKingdom:
That pix of Nssuka nawah

That's not Nsukka town. Nsukka is a hilly and highland town with the typical Igbo tenement dotting its skyline with roads snaking down its escarpment... sorry I'm not in NSK now would have posted some pix. Manage the ones below.
I know he got that pix from google but that's not NSK.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Chri08102702694: 6:09pm On Mar 31, 2018
There is no need to live in denial. It was a picture captured at Nsukka for tourism purposes. Hotels.ng is a certified and a reliable source. What you should be doing right now is how to start demolition.

christejames:


That's not Nsukka town. Nsukka is a hilly and highland town with the typical Igbo tenement dotting its skyline with roads snaking down its escarpment... sorry I'm not in NSK now would have posted some pix. Manage the ones below.
I know he got that pix from google but that's not NSK.


https://hotels.ng/guides/city-guide/nsukka-city-travel-guide/

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by TheKingdom: 6:11pm On Mar 31, 2018
Some of those structures in Cent City are outdated nah

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Afam4eva(m): 6:43pm On Mar 31, 2018
horsepower101:


Point to me the part of the country that is doing better in terms of job availability, employment, economy.

To my recent memory, people all over this country are suffering and can't even get 3 meals a day. I never felt that way about the east.

I am not saying that people are not struggling in the east but it's far much worse in other places. So please let's not exaggerate the current situation. No need for self pity. We have already overcome far much worse situations in Nigeria.

And if people have to go to find better opportunities else where, so be it as long as they invest back home.
If we continue with this mindset of yours then we will never move forward. We must recognize our problems based on our shared history to be able to move forward.

The truth is that despite the fact that Igbos have risen from the ashes to build cities worth emulating, a lot still needs to be done. Take a good look at most of our cities and you will realize that they're mostly made up of residential buildings which is not a bad thing. But we must start encouraging industries that will boost the economies of these cities and create jobs for the populace. Go to big companies in Lagos, Abuja, Port-hacourt, Ibadan and Kaduna and you'll realize that there are handful of Igbos working in these places. Despite the fact that some of these cities cannot match Enugu in terms of beauty of serenity, they have huge economic activities going on thereby creating jobs. That's exactly what we are lacking the east. We need industries so that we will stop experiencing brain drain.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 6:57pm On Mar 31, 2018
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Cooly100: 7:05pm On Mar 31, 2018
Classy Maxbe hotel Enugu

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Cooly100: 7:06pm On Mar 31, 2018
more...

This appears to be the most expensive in the city...

Make sure you are loaded..so you can enjoy the hospitality... cheesy cheesy

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by asha80(m): 7:09pm On Mar 31, 2018
spyder880:


The contractors are still working in this Okposi, Ugwulangwu, Onicha Igboeze, Isu, but they are concentrated mainly in Uburu, Umahi's town. Every small road in Uburu is being done with countless other projects. I was so surprised to see that level of development in Ohaozara local government in Ebonyi state.
this issue of a governor focusing on his home town..i can't say I know much of what is going on in ebonyi apart from what I read..I just hope it is not to the detriment of other parts of ebonyi(especially afikpo)

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by TheKingdom: 7:09pm On Mar 31, 2018
Nice. Imagine if the capital of Biafra was developed since 1967....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKk6vgwj4yY

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by InvertedHammer: 7:23pm On Mar 31, 2018
Chri08102702694:



Paul Ogenyi I totally agree with you on this, Enugu is a dead town ruled by dirty useless uneducated animals and infested with the worst crimes and also infested with human wastes just as we saw recently all over Ogbete market and enugu metropolis. There is no other way to save the deplorable and waste land called Enugu than totally deploying caterpillars to demolish the entire filthy town to the ground.

Perhaps if I post deplorable pictures of some parts of Los Angeles or Detroit in the almighty USA, it will lighten your mood. No place is perfect.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 7:46pm On Mar 31, 2018
Afam4eva:

If we continue with this mindset of yours then we will never move forward. We must recognize our problems based on our shared history to be able to move forward.

The truth is that despite the fact that Igbos have risen from the ashes to build cities worth emulating, a lot still needs to be done. Take a good look at most of our cities and you will realize that they're mostly made up of residential buildings which is not a bad thing. But we must start encouraging industries that will boost the economies of these cities and create jobs for the populace. Go to big companies in Lagos, Abuja, Port-hacourt, Ibadan and Kaduna and you'll realize that there are handful of Igbos working in these places. Despite the fact that some of these cities cannot match Enugu in terms of beauty of serenity, they have huge economic activities going on thereby creating jobs. That's exactly what we are lacking the east. We need industries so that we will stop experiencing brain drain.

While I agree with your post 100%, I still don't think we have done too badly, especially when you look back to where we are coming from. I think we have more industries now than in the past 15-20 years ago. We have companies now making some household items, food processing, potable water, I think we can do well in building materials to compliment the building boom. While the few companies is a far cry from where we are supposed to be, we have made some progress. I will want the government to provide an enabling environment for production to thrive. Protect the existing companies while encouraging more to establish new production outfits. Build and maintain roads in industrial estates.

The endless wait for foreign investors to start producing while our brothers are running away to other states and countries is annoying. Why not identify Enugu state indigenes who has money and those who has brains, set them up with lands and protect the companies. We will be rewarded with jobs, and taxes when the companies are strong and profitable.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by kmariko: 8:09pm On Mar 31, 2018
spyder880:


While I agree with your post 100%, I still don't think we have done too badly, especially when you look back to where we are coming from. I think we have more industries now than in the past 15-20 years ago. We have companies now making some household items, food processing, potable water, I think we can do well in building materials to compliment the building boom. While the few companies is a far cry from where we are supposed to be, we have made some progress. I will want the government to provide an enabling environment for production to thrive. Protect the existing companies while encouraging more to establish new production outfits. Build and maintain roads in industrial estates.

The endless wait for foreign investors to start producing while our brothers are running away to other states and countries is annoying. Why not identify Enugu state indigenes who has money and those who has brains, set them up with lands and protect the companies. We will be rewarded with jobs, and taxes when the companies are strong and profitable.

Referring to my earlier post...with two minerals found in the state in commercial quantities ...coal and limestone....ths state can innovatively incubate tens of industries without involving " the never- coming -foreign- investors" ...then again it depends on the priority of who is in authority.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 8:10pm On Mar 31, 2018
Another factor we should consider is the historical business pattern of the Igbo man. We seem to be a people who loves going out to make it, then bring back the kill and eat at home, maybe a trait from the early hunters who are our ancestors. The Igbo man is an adventurous explorer who loves to conquer new territories peacefully, that might explain our migration pattern, it might not have anything to do with more money or opportunities elsewhere. Why else do we have our brothers in countries and places that are even poorer than Igbo land?

I am saying that the building of many industries may not make most Igbos to stay in Igboland. There's some fun in coming back to our places after making it in other places.

But, we need more companies here grin

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Afam4eva(m): 8:14pm On Mar 31, 2018
spyder880:
Another factor we should consider is the historical business pattern of the Igbo man. We seem to be a people who loves going out to make it, then bring back the kill and eat at home, maybe a trait from the early hunters who are our ancestors. The Igbo man is an adventurous explorer who loves to conquer new territories peacefully, that might explain our migration pattern, it might not have anything to do with more money or opportunities elsewhere. Why else do we have our brothers in countries and places that are even poorer than Igbo land?

I am saying that the building of many industries may not make most Igbos to stay in Igboland. There's some fun in coming back to our places after making it in other places.

But, we need more companies here grin
I've always disagreed with this premise. We started moving out enmasse after the civil war. If we had a Lagos in teh east, do you think we would move out as much? No group moves out for the heck of it. Something drives such behavior.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 8:14pm On Mar 31, 2018
kmariko:


Referring to my earlier post...with two minerals found in the state in commercial quantities ...coal and limestone....ths state can innovatively incubate tens of industries without involving " the never- coming -foreign- investors" ...then again it depends on the priority of who is in authority.

Small small, anything, everything. We should get smaller investors with few millions to start building paint manufacturing companies instead of building hotels, soap, perfume and cosmetics making instead of buying SUVs. We need a government to encourage small start ups.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 8:17pm On Mar 31, 2018
Afam4eva:

I've always disagreed with this premise. We started moving out enmasse after the civil war. If we had a Lagos in teh east, do you think we would move out as much? No group moves out for the heck of it. Something drives such behavior.

No, I think we have nearly a million people outside Igboland before the civil war. Over 50,000 were massacred in the north alone. Remember, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Jim Nwobodo and thousands of Igbo men were born in the north as early as the 1900s. That's why I think it's historical.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by asha80(m): 8:46pm On Mar 31, 2018
Afam4eva:

I've always disagreed with this premise. We started moving out enmasse after the civil war. If we had a Lagos in teh east, do you think we would move out as much? No group moves out for the heck of it. Something drives such behavior.
totally wrong..go read history of igbo migratory patterns that was occurring even before rail was built from ph to maidugiri long before Nigerian independence

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by asha80(m): 8:47pm On Mar 31, 2018
spyder880:


No, I think we have nearly a million people outside Igboland before the civil war. Over 50,000 were massacred in the north alone. Remember, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Jim Nwobodo and thousands of Igbo men were born in the north as early as the 1900s. That's why I think it's historical.
cyprian ekwensi,ojukwu many of them

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by kmariko: 9:02pm On Mar 31, 2018
asha80:
totally wrong..go read history of igbo migratory patterns that was occurring even before rail was built from ph to maidugiri long before Nigerian independence

The keyword from Afam is enmasse...travel is a human trait and it is not ethnic specific...it was the need for survival after the war that created the wave for mass emigrations to the west....Before the war people were making it in Aba, ph, Onitsha, sapele, Warri, Enugu...Meeting a person from the West was actually a " rarity" so to speak. The industries in then eastern Nigeria was policy ground to dust...leading to Afams enmasse
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by cjrane: 9:06pm On Mar 31, 2018
Cooly100:
Classy Maxbe hotel Enugu

I like the hotel, except that they could have made a little effort to plant flowers and palm trees around the environment. Interior and furnishing is fantastic. But Furnishing a room alone while the entire environment looks like middle of a desert is just a mindset our people must learn to change.

The trees and the flowers for a conducive environment is JUST AS IMPORTANT as the concrete floors, paint and furnishing.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by NonsoWow: 9:17pm On Mar 31, 2018
Chri08102702694:
I hate people that hate us. It was a direct response to one of your hateful brothers. The vicious circle must continue. Did you say beautiful town? enugu is a jungle that must be demolished because it is dilapidated and infested with human wastes and filled with poor people.


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My broda keep telling them. If not for anything, at least for the sake of the millions of wretched wawas on the streets of obiagu, abakpa, coal camp, iva valley, asata and countless slums that dot the enugu landscape who are wondering why these dishonest few here are posting only pictures of independence layout and new haven that make up just 2% of enugu. Any first time visitor to enugu would be apalled by the level of wretchedness in that overrated town.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by asha80(m): 9:19pm On Mar 31, 2018
kmariko:


The keyword from Afam is enmasse...travel is a human trait and it is not ethnic specific...it was the need for survival after the war that created the wave for mass emigrations to the west....Before the war people were making it in Aba, ph, Onitsha, sapele, Warri, Enugu...Meeting a person from the West was actually a " rarity" so to speak. The industries in then eastern Nigeria was policy ground to dust...leading to Afams enmasse
with igbo it was a unique thing..it was a settlement pattern issue..those days (and I wager to some extent till now) once you were outside your community or town you felt outside your 'home' so anywhere to thrive was game..this Aba,onitsha,enugu,warri etc you named you still get igbos who are making it ..yes the civil war and policies thereafter sort of excabated it but igbo migration to other parts of the country especially northern Nigeria is well documented..heck I have even read books of 'igbo domination' in the then cameroons that later became part of present day Cameroon.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 9:24pm On Mar 31, 2018
cjrane:


I like the hotel, except that they could have made a little effort to plant flowers and palm trees around the environment. Interior and furnishing is fantastic. But Furnishing a room alone while the entire environment looks like middle of a desert is just a mindset our people must learn to change.

The trees and the flowers for a conducive environment is JUST AS IMPORTANT as the concrete floors, paint and furnishing.

Greens, I love greens.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by kmariko: 9:31pm On Mar 31, 2018
asha80:
with igbo it was a unique thing..it was a settlement pattern issue..those days (and I wager to some extent till now) once you were outside your community or town you felt outside your 'home' so anywhere to thrive was game..this Aba,onitsha,enugu,warri etc you named you still get igbos who are making it ..yes the civil war and policies thereafter sort of excabated it but igbo migration to other parts of the country especially northern Nigeria is well documented..heck I have even read books of 'igbo domination' in the then cameroons that later became part of present day Cameroon.

I wouldn't go as far as claim "igbo domination"..cos those are perceptive values that has no statistical bearing..those values are based on the " other people" view of few foreigners amongst themselves..the natives.. that brought a unique way of doing things different from theirs...it does not mean that they are dominant... because population wise with the attendant culture and governance imperatives,the natives will always have the last word..so dominance is not really a factual statement .

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by asha80(m): 9:54pm On Mar 31, 2018
kmariko:


I wouldn't go as far as claim "igbo domination"..cos those are perceptive values that has no statistical bearing..those values are based on the " other people" view of few foreigners amongst themselves..the natives.. that brought a unique way of doing things different from theirs...it does not mean that they are dominant... because population wise with the attendant culture and governance imperatives,the natives will always have the last word..so dominance is not really a factual statement .
that is why I used the igbo domination in quotation in that my post...

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by horsepower101: 10:39pm On Mar 31, 2018
Afam4eva:

I've always disagreed with this premise. We started moving out enmasse after the civil war. If we had a Lagos in teh east, do you think we would move out as much? No group moves out for the heck of it. Something drives such behavior.

More Chinese people have left china within the last decade than previous decades even though china is rapidly developing. Don't make the mistake of thinking that a developed east with stop igbos from traveling out to go settle and do business in other places.

Please check the colonial records and you will realize that igbos started going to all corners of Nigeria even before independence.

In fact the east was the Fastest developing region at that time as confirmed by international bodies. Yet it didn't stop igbos from going to other parts of the country.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by horsepower101: 10:43pm On Mar 31, 2018
Afam4eva:

I've always disagreed with this premise. We started moving out enmasse after the civil war. If we had a Lagos in teh east, do you think we would move out as much? No group moves out for the heck of it. Something drives such behavior.

This is not true, igbos have been moving to other places in mass even before Nigerias independence. There is a reason the northerners suddenly became uncomfortable with the migration as the igbos in their region were becoming successful while they themselves remained poor.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by horsepower101: 10:49pm On Mar 31, 2018
kmariko:


I wouldn't go as far as claim "igbo domination"..cos those are perceptive values that has no statistical bearing..those values are based on the " other people" view of few foreigners amongst themselves..the natives.. that brought a unique way of doing things different from theirs...it does not mean that they are dominant... because population wise with the attendant culture and governance imperatives,the natives will always have the last word..so dominance is not really a factual statement .

Gbam.. populations or people that are not enterprising always see igbo presence as dominating because igbos show up with nothing and years later, start making good money.

The right response is to copy the igbos.

The wrong response is to destroy their hard work.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by kmariko: 10:53pm On Mar 31, 2018
asha80:
that is why I used the igbo domination in quotation in that my post...

I do understand ....just that reading some of the posts from other contributors one gets the feeling that some people think that migration and domination are synonymous.. emigration historical.. irrespective of the ethnic group is driven primarily by lack of opportunities ( incl.wars) in the home "country".. swedish, french, English, Japanese Chinese etc to other places happened before they realize that with policy changes in their governance values they can improve on the economic life of the citizenry...then again it only happens with visionary leaders not "cosmeticians".. please no disrepect to beauty advisers.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by asha80(m): 11:05pm On Mar 31, 2018
kmariko:


I do understand ....just that reading some of the posts from other contributors one gets the feeling that some people think that migration and domination are synonymous.. emigration historical.. irrespective of the ethnic group is driven primarily by lack of opportunities ( incl.wars) in the home "country".. swedish, french, English, Japanese Chinese etc to other places happened before they realize that with policy changes in their governance values they can improve on the economic life of the citizenry...then again it only happens with visionary leaders not "cosmeticians".. please no disrepect to beauty advisers.
however to put this into perspective bisi olatilo grew up in kano in the 50s and early 60s and it was kano that he learnt how to speak igbo fluently(if you read his story he actually said the first language he learnt to speak fluently was igbo then Hausa before yoruba) ...this is to show you how igbos were actually entrenched in kano in the 40s,50s and 60s before the war occured...Pete edochie was actually born and brought up in zaria

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Ofodirinwa: 2:27am On Apr 01, 2018
Dremca:
please tell me
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Imo is famous for impregnating your mother.
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