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Butterflyleo:
He did not pronounce them guilty. That list had "Allegedly" clearly read out from it. Or did you not hear it?

obi58:
Why tender allegations when you supposedly have a cast iron case against these people in court according to you if these allegations are not baseless?

Butterflyleo:
You can also view it this way. They know they have a cast iron case against him which is why they are bold to tender allegations.

jodeci:
Why was the list published if it was mere allegations.

obi58:
Why not allow the rule of law to take its course and allow the Judge to be the judge of that?

This is tantamount to taking laws into their own hands and a slap on the face of the same democracy which they as elected government should upload

obi58:
Why not allow the rule of law to take its course and allow the Judge to be the judge of that?

This is tantamount to taking laws into their own hands and a slap on the face of the same democracy which they as elected government should upload

castrol180:
in a real sense of it, hasn't secondus looted public fund in one way or the other? Let him come out and exculpate himself with evidence now or never

Firefire:
Right direction...

The foolish party called APC keep deceiving their children of perdition with their fake fight against kworuption.


APC have no moral justification to brings out any names considering the content of PDP professional looters fully absorbed into the fraudulent party called APC.

PDP = APC.

rickyrex:
what charge have u an your APC brought before him. Other names has been on ground before now. So short enlisted second without formal aligation or trial

Butterflyleo:
I seriously don't think you know the meaning of the word ALLEGEDLY. If you did, you wouldn't be making such comments as this.

Allegedly is as good as calling someone A SUSPECT. That does not mean your suspected or alleged crime would not be mentioned in public but your classification as a criminal despite being a suspect or despite it being alleged that you did, would be tantamount to breaking the law.

Oxalic:
It doesn't matter whether is 'alleged' or outright acussation, defamation of character is the offence here whichever way. You can't be announcing to the whole world that one is a looter and based on argument on 'allegedly'.

obi58:
You are the one who doesn't know what allegedly means. You don't impinge the characters of people without putting your money where your mouth is by levelling your ALLEGATIONS backed with your EVIDENCE before a court. Let it then be known that these people stand ACCUSED of looting.

Just let's learn to do things right and not pay lip service to this democracy we say we practice only when we find it convenient.

Butterflyleo:
We are saying the same thing. Lai Mohammed had the right to mention his name as an accused who allegedly looted public funds. He put allegedly in his statement.

Of course the legal process would back that up and if he is exonerated, then everyone will also know. But has secondus even said what he received the money for? He hasn't and instead of clearing the air on that he is busy latching on to this announcement. If he did not collect the monies would there be need for this announcement? Instead of him tackling the root of his problems he is plucking the leaves.

By threatening the FG, he just bought himself a truckload of trouble.

Just like metuh who is claiming that Jonathan has not been called to ask why he gave him the money as if he (metuh) did not ask Jonathan what the money was for when he received it. These guys act and talk stupidly due to their impunity. It has been looting galore for them so they never had any reasons to ask what the money was for. All they always did was take and keep taking.

obi58:
Bro this thing is simple. Let them follow due process. the executive cannot also be the judiciary.

castrol180:
in a real sense of it, hasn't secondus looted public fund in one way or the other? Let him come out and exculpate himself with evidence now or never

Butterflyleo:
How does making an announcement with the names of alleged looters turn them to the judiciary?

Is it also the court of law that makes announcements of this nature?

This is simple but you are not seeing it due to party lines. I am not even an APC or a buhari person but I support what is right and this is right.

obi58:
I go back to my original question to you. Have charges of looting been brought up against these individuals?

That's what we should be hearing about not organizing a press conference to level unfounded allegations.

If you have evidence take your Allegations to court. Simple! Don't worry about the public... We will hear about the charges, trial and judgement on the news.

Not all these cheap media shenanigans.

Butterflyleo:
This was why I said you do not seem to understand the meaning of the word ALLEGEDLY.

In recent years it has become common for speakers to include allegedly in statements that are controversial or possibly even defamatory. The implication is that, by saying allegedly, the speaker is distancing himself or herself from the controversy and even protecting himself or herself from possible prosecution

My words in bold is why i said secondus and his lawyers are being stupid.

obi58:
Why level ALLEGATIONS (in the media not the court) instead of CHARGES if you have EVIDENCE

Is 3 and a half years not enough time to investigate and try the offending looters

Unless perhaps there is no evidence or perhaps to gain cheap political points however unfounded they may be. So according to you it's okay to make treasonous statements provided you coin them as allegations?

In my opinion this is just a media distraction and a huge vote of no confidence on our investigative agencies and judicial system.

That is how IBB's aide was declared wanted but when he presented himself to the police they quickly backed down.

You're looking at this across party lines but I'm looking at this dispassionately and asking why these people cannot be investigated and tried and let's see whether these allegations are unfounded or not

Butterflyleo:
I don't think you understood what I posted. I think we are done here.

If there was no evidence how did they know about a 200m and a 600m he took from Jonathan?

Buhari earlier said that those who looted should quietly return their loot and they would not be prosecuted. Many did and they struck a deal with the federal government based on this. Or did you not know about that too?

Even Jonathan's wife is now towing the same path if pleading for a settlement despite her initial gragra.

Maybe you know something others don't know and can explain to us what the 200m and 600m received by secondus was meant for?

Mynd44:
This is the right thing to do. Sue them because only the courts have the right to declare anyone a looter.

But again, there was "Allegedly" in front of everyone of them……

Anyway, lawyer must eat

castrol180:
in a real sense of it, hasn't secondus looted public fund in one way or the other? Let him come out and exculpate himself with evidence now or never

DamiBukola:
No wonder Buhari was elected President. It is not His duty to establish his innocence, you alleged HR stole so prove it or shut your dirty... up.

laffwitmi:
What do you have to say about this Soludo statement?

UcheSecondus:
PUBLICATION OF FALSE AND DEFAMATORY STATEMENT AGAINST PRINCE UCHE SECONDUS, THE NATIONAL CHAIRMAN OF THE PEOPLES DEMOCRATIC PARTY: DEMAND FOR RETRACTION, APOLOGY AND PAYMENT OF DAMAGES.


 Secondus gives Lai Mohammad 48 hours to retract statement.


The National Chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP Prince Uche Secondus has given the Minister of Information and Culture 48 hours to withdraw his libelous statement against on friday or face litigation.


According to a statement from his media office signed by his Spokesperson Ike ABONYI, said that Prince Secondus through his lawyer Emeka Etiaba SAN in a letter ref no. EESE&C/1/31/03/18 dated March 31st 2018 addressed to the Minister titled Re:Publication of false and defamatory statement against Prince Uche Secondus, the National Chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party: Demand for retraction, Apology and Payment of damages is asking for N1.5b damages plus public apology.

The lawyer said that the said publication has damaged the image of Prince Secondus as he has been " humiliated, castigated and vilified by many as a result of the falsehood published by the Minister"


The letter told Alhaji Mohammad to note that if he fails to meet their demand after 48 hours, " We shall within 72 hours from today, proceed to a court of competent jurisdiction to ventilate our clients right under the law and shall further seek the protection of the court against you"


https://www.facebook.com/princeuchesecondus/posts/227708834445730