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Re: Was This The Family That Invented Jesus? by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:39am On Apr 02, 2018
Emmanystone:
I never knew you were like this. How many of them are living inside of you? cheesy
Demon worshipper grin grin

Have you worshipped the zombie today?

You cannibal, how many pound of his flesh have you eaten or litre of his blood have you drank?
Re: Was This The Family That Invented Jesus? by Butterflyleo: 5:27pm On Apr 02, 2018
Emmanystone:
Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Exodus:20:12

Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
Ephesians:6:1

Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise;
Ephesians:6:2

That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
Ephesians:6:3

^^^^These must be coming from your ancestors.
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Re: Was This The Family That Invented Jesus? by Emmanystone: 5:51pm On Apr 02, 2018
FOLYKAZE:
Demon worshipper grin grin

Have you worshipped the zombie today?

You cannibal, how many pound of his flesh have you eaten or litre of his blood have you drank?
Pls answer me. How many demons are living inside of you o pagan.
Re: Was This The Family That Invented Jesus? by FOLYKAZE(m): 6:01pm On Apr 02, 2018
Emmanystone:
Pls answer me. How many demons are living inside of you o pagan.
Demon worshipper. Have you drank Jesus blood and eaten his stinky flesh today?
Re: Was This The Family That Invented Jesus? by Rosskii(op):
Obi1kenobi:
I hate no truths. I hate myths. When you start arguing shiit like saying Igbos are Jews and Ashkenazi people are fake Jews and all that nonsense, there's only fantasy.

Depends what you think Herodotus meant by "Negro".
He meant BLACK-SKINNED. That's what he meant by Negro. What else could he have meant?


Dictionary:

Negro: a member of a dark-skinned group of peoples originally native to Africa south of the Sahara.


If you think he meant Berbers, Cushites, Ethiopian Semites etc (Jews today use the same derogatory word they've called Cushitic people for thousands of years to describe black people of Niger-Congo origin), then that wouldn't be far from accurate. If you think he's referring to Niger-Congo Bantus, you're deluded.
There you go with your stupid demarcation and balkanisation of black people taught you by European racists. They never divide themselves between Norwegian white, Italian white, German white, Greek white, Spanish white, or French white. They are all white. But blacks must be divided based on what? Sorry. REJECTED. Black is Black. Negro is Negro. If you have a problem with that, go unbrainwash yourself.

Statue of Pharoah Tutunkhamun, (1400 BC) found in his tomb:

https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7082/563/1600/King%20Tut%20Statue.jpg


If Pharaoh Tutunkhamun had tried to order a coffee from a cafe in 1950s Mississippi, he would have been met with ''Get the fck outta here, ni**er!!''

They wouldn't have asked him if he was ''Cushite, Berber, Niger-Congo, or Ethiopian''.

Lesson: Black is Black is Black. Negro is Negro.
Re: Was This The Family That Invented Jesus? by Obi1kenobi(m): 8:42pm On Apr 03, 2018
Rosskii:
There you go with your stupid demarcation of black people taught you by European racists. They never divide themselves between Norwegian white, Italian white, German white, Greek white, Spanish white, or French white. But blacks must be divided based on what? Sorry. REJECTED. Black is Black. If you have a problem with that, go and unbrainwash yourself.

Statue of Pharoah Tutunkhamun, (1400 BC) found in his tomb:

https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7082/563/1600/King%20Tut%20Statue.jpg


Lesson: Black is Black is Black.
The emboldened is a falsehood. White people classify themselves as Mediterranean, Slavic, Celt, Nordic etc. A Turk isn't seen as having any real kinship with a Norwegian for example. Hell, you could go to a country like Italy and your typical Southern Italian from Sicily, Naples etc is seen as different from your typical Northerner from Turin or Milan. Same way a Far East Asian from Hong Kong or Tokyo or Seoul is different from South-East Asians. Hell, Irish people have the same Anglo-Saxon roots as British people, yet Irish immigrants were treated like sub-human scuum and lepers when they arrived the new American colony. grin
There is no unified black race or white race or Asian race or whatever. You have ethnicities and nationalities (I don't mean geopolitical statehood) and sub-racial groups where people share common histories, languages, cultures, physical features etc. A West African Bantu has no reason to claim Sudanese, or Ethiopian or Somali or Egyptian or Moorish or Carthaginian history as his own in the same way a Norwegian can't claim Ottoman, or Roman, or Greek or imperial Spanish history as his own.
Re: Was This The Family That Invented Jesus? by Rosskii(op):
Obi1kenobi:
The emboldened is a falsehood. White people classify themselves as Mediterranean, Slavic, Celt, Nordic etc. A Turk isn't seen as having any real kinship with a Norwegian for example. Hell, you could go to a country like Italy and your typical Southern Italian from Sicily, Naples etc is seen as different from your typical Northerner from Turin or Milan. Same way a Far East Asian from Hong Kong or Tokyo or Seoul is different from South-East Asians. Hell, Irish people have the same Anglo-Saxon roots as British people, yet Irish immigrants were treated like sub-human scuum and lepers when they arrived the new American colony. grin
There is no unified black race or white race or Asian race or whatever. You have ethnicities and nationalities (I don't mean geopolitical statehood) and sub-racial groups where people share common histories, languages, cultures, physical features etc. A West African Bantu has no reason to claim Sudanese, or Ethiopian or Somali or Egyptian or Moorish or Carthaginian history as his own in[b] the same way a Norwegian can't claim Ottoman, or Roman, or Greek or imperial Spanish history as his own[/b].
Nonsense. When people talk about Ancient Greeks and Romans they don’t try to make their race debatable, or try to exclude other Europeans who weren't Greek or Roman, from that western civilization. Everyone accepts those as white European civilizations. An average German or English person does not say, ''The Romans and Greeks? I've got nothing to do with them! I only relate to the Vikings and Celts!!" If you say otherwise you are a liar. But whenever we talk of black civlization, YOU always turn up to say ''Oh no, not these types of blacks..but these other types of blacks.''. WE REJECT THAT.

That guy in the image above is as black as, or even blacker than, any 'Niger-Congo' black person. So what is your own with stupid labels? Go and visit Sudan, north of Nigeria, especially Southern Sudan. The people there are blacker than any other blacks in Africa. I used to think Ghanaians were really dark till I saw the Sudanese and Nubians. Now that's black. If a Sudanese black man today invents a supercomputer ten times as powerful as anything around, all Africa will rejoice and take pride in the achievement. Only mad people like you will say 'Oh don't celebrate him or claim his achievement for yourself. He's not a 'Niger-Congo' black''. When Wole Soyinka became the first black person to win the Nobel Prize for Literature, he was celebrated from Ethiopia to Egypt, and from Sudan to South Africa. Black is black. Deal with it.
Re: Was This The Family That Invented Jesus? by Obi1kenobi(m): 10:12pm On Apr 03, 2018
Rosskii:
Nonsense. When people talk about Ancient Greeks and Romans they don’t try to make their race debatable, or try to exclude other Europeans who weren't Greek or Roman, from that western civilization. Everyone accepts those as white European civilizations. An average German or English person does not say, ''The Romans and Greeks? I've got nothing to do with them! I only relate to the Vikings and Celts!!" If you say otherwise you are a liar. But whenever we talk of black civlization, YOU always turn up to say ''Oh no, not these types of blacks..but these other types of blacks.''. WE REJECT THAT.

That guy in the image above is as black as, or even blacker than, any 'Niger-Congo' black person. So what is your own with stupid labels? Go and visit Sudan, north of Nigeria, especially Southern Sudan. The people there are blacker than any other blacks in Africa. I used to think Ghanaians were really dark till I saw the Sudanese and Nubians. Now that's black. If a Sudanese black man today invents a supercomputer ten times as powerful as anything around, all Africa will rejoice and take pride in the achievement. Only mad people like you will say 'Oh don't celebrate him or claim his achievement for yourself. He's not a 'Niger-Congo' black''. When Wole Soyinka became the first black person to win the Nobel Prize for Literature, he was celebrated from Ethiopia to Egypt, and from Sudan to South Africa. Black is black. Deal with it.
Your claims remain an evident falsehood. The Ottomans are barely seen as a Western/European civilization. The Greeks and Romans might be spoken of in context when considering their contributions to Western civilization (afterall, the Romans conquered and civilized Northern Europeans), but they are not seen as any kind of homogeneous entity. Russians throughout their history have dealt with external hostility from other European countries. The Slavs of Eastern Europe have always been treated like the pits of European civilization. For goodness sakes, the Nazism that defined World War 2 was rooted in a supremacist belief system that saw other groups outside Northern Europeans as being of inferior stock. An Italian doesn't give 2 shiits about Viking civilization or the Russian empire and a Swede cares nothing about appropriating the history of Turks. There is no homogeneous white or black race. Those are superficial labels based on colour. A Somali feels more kinship with someone from Yemen or Oman than he feels with a Nigerian. Many Cushitic people feel offended when they're called "black", so why would I want to identify with Cushitic history in the Nile valley or ancient Egypt or the Levant?

A sculpture is not a picture of a person. You can paint Mahatma Gandhi black in a sculpture. Doesn't mean he's "black". There are different races of people in Sudan. The very black people in Sudan you're talking about are Nilotes. They make up the majority of South Sudan. They are kin with other Nilotes in East and Central Africa like the Masai in Kenya. Sudan is a multi-racial country with native Arabs, Berbers, Cushites, Bantus and even Romani populations that migrated from Asia centuries ago.
Re: Was This The Family That Invented Jesus? by Niflheim(m): 4:02pm On Apr 04, 2018
Jesus that I saw last night scoring an own goal against Bayern Munich? Ofcourse he exists for 3 reasons!!!

1.To cause disaster.

2.To cause confusion

3.To cause mass suicide to his followers
Re: Was This The Family That Invented Jesus? by Rosskii(op):
Obi1kenobi:
Your claims remain an evident falsehood. The Ottomans are barely seen as a Western/European civilization. The Greeks and Romans might be spoken of in context when considering their contributions to Western civilization (afterall, the Romans conquered and civilized Northern Europeans), but they are not seen as any kind of homogeneous entity. Russians throughout their history have dealt with external hostility from other European countries. The Slavs of Eastern Europe have always been treated like the pits of European civilization. For goodness sakes, the Nazism that defined World War 2 was rooted in a supremacist belief system that saw other groups outside Northern Europeans as being of inferior stock. An Italian doesn't give 2 shiits about Viking civilization or the Russian empire and a Swede cares nothing about appropriating the history of Turks. There is no homogeneous white or black race. Those are superficial labels based on colour. A Somali feels more kinship with someone from Yemen or Oman than he feels with a Nigerian. Many Cushitic people feel offended when they're called "black", so why would I want to identify with Cushitic history in the Nile valley or ancient Egypt or the Levant?

A sculpture is not a picture of a person. You can paint Mahatma Gandhi black in a sculpture. Doesn't mean he's "black". There are different races of people in Sudan. The very black people in Sudan you're talking about are Nilotes. They make up the majority of South Sudan. They are kin with other Nilotes in East and Central Africa like the Masai in Kenya. Sudan is a multi-racial country with native Arabs, Berbers, Cushites, Bantus and even Romani populations that migrated from Asia centuries ago.
You type a lot of long-winded bullshit that seeks to tell us that what we see is not what we see. DUDE: All Europeans - in fact ALL WHITE NATIONS, promote and propagate Roman and Greek civilizations as though it were THEIRS. The entire English literary system is based on Greek and Roman influences. Shakespeare wrote about the Romans without separating them racially from the English. The Greek and Roman movies, documentaries, and books are shared and promoted among all white nations as treasures of their history. They NEVER promote or talk about African history by the way.

Plus your response is filled with falsehoods and evasion. Tutunkhamun's statue is black because he was a black man, NOT because it was a sculpture. That was not natural black granite of the kind used in European sculptural art. Black paint was used on limestone. They could have used pink paint if he was a white man. In tomb paintings he is also depicted as a black man. You are an agent of western whitewashing of history, deceit, and imperialism. That is why you always come here to diminish and deny the greatness of the black past.

What do you say about the numerous Egyptian statutes that have had their noses broken and lips scraped off to hide their negroid features?

Tutunkhamun's mum, Queen Tiye:

https://www.johnoehler.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Tiye-same-statue-as-above-Agyptisches-Museum-Berlin.jpg
Re: Was This The Family That Invented Jesus? by Obi1kenobi(m): 10:55pm On Apr 05, 2018
Rosskii:
You type a lot of long-winded bullshit that seeks to tell us that what we see is not what we see. DUDE: All Europeans - in fact ALL WHITE NATIONS, promote and propagate Roman and Greek civilizations as though it were THEIRS. The entire English literary system is based on Greek and Roman influences. Shakespeare wrote about the Romans without separating them racially from the English. The Greek and Roman movies, documentaries, and books are shared and promoted among all white nations as treasures of their history. They NEVER promote or talk about African history by the way.
I think I've made my point. Pointlessly going round in circles on the same issue is futile. There is no homogeneous white or black race. Go to Somalinet and refer to Somalis as "black". You wouldn't get a very friendly welcome. Why the fucckk would I care to appropriate the history of Cushitic people who assert their different kinship from me? The English language having Roman and Greek influences is about as relevant as Hausa being an Asiatic language. Cushitic people, whose history you want to claim, share no language roots with you as a Bantu. Funny how you ignore such things when it doesn't suit you, but employ it when highlighting that English has Roman and Greek influences. No shiit Sherlock - the Greeks heavily influenced Rome and the Romans conquered what you know today as England. Do English people also claim Turkish/Ottoman history as theirs?

Plus your response is filled with falsehoods and evasion. Tutunkhamun's statue is black because he was a black man, NOT because it was a sculpture. That was not natural black granite of the kind used in Europe. Black paint was used on it. They could have used pink paint if he was a white man. In tomb paintings he is also depicted as a black man. You are an agent of western lies, deceit, and imperialism. That is why you always come here to diminish and deny the greatness of the black past.

What do you say about the numerous Egyptian statutes that have had their noses broken and lips scraped off to hide their negroid features?

Here's Tutunkhamun's mum, Queen Tiye:

https://www.johnoehler.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Tiye-same-statue-as-above-Agyptisches-Museum-Berlin.jpg

Again - black as they come.
If you asserted any historical figure to be black just because their artistic depictions are painted black in any scholarly, peer-reviewed environment, you'd be laughed off the park. It's an amateurish mistake I've highlighted several times, but you're impervious to reason. Like using Assyrian relief sculptures to claim Jews were black. King Tut's DNA has been sequenced before and while many things from the diseases that afflicted him, to the fact he was inbred (which contributed to his poor health) have been revealed, the researchers, due to being afraid of upsetting race warriors, have kept his racial information secret. You don't have any shred of proof that he was black. And no, the sculpture is utterly meaningless his blackness.
Re: Was This The Family That Invented Jesus? by TheSourcerer: 11:55pm On Jan 01, 2020
FOLYKAZE:
Shiiit. I never saw it coming. Do you christians have a thinking cap? undecided

Before I start, have you seen that your beloved Jewish demon called Jesus(the real jew observed he was likely possessed) is narcissistic cult leader. He is passing n instruction for his new prey to turn against their parents, friends and family, and join his new cult - anti family cult. You have actually been misled. No family love in Christianity.

The answer to your question is straight. It has to do with personal growth.

The levite gave all they had to Yahweh, their imaginary skydaddy, and they had nothing unto their name because Yahweh has denied them a free live. Yahweh made their life miserable by making them live in penury. They had no inheritance, no land, no farm, no money, and no good life. They hated their own life so well that they had to drop it for Yahweh new fond kind of life.

Some of the disciple of Jesus were fishermen, tax collector, physician and many other professions. This is their OWN life until Jesus asked them to thrashed that and live in abject poverty to preach evangelism and beg for food.

Would anyone who love his life thrash his field to live another one laid out by Yahweh?


Jesus explain better....

Mark 8:34-38:
And He summoned the crowd with His disciples, and said to them, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me. For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel’s will save it. For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul? For what will a man give in exchange for his soul? For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will also be ashamed of him when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.”

Jesus that wants one to hate his family, friends and deny self from living life fruitfully is a kind of Charles Manson.

A God who wants his followers to hate their people is a demon.

A God who doesn't want to enjoy life or deny himself fruitful things on earth is a demon.

You have failed to tell us how hateful you are toward your parents.
please tell me you still hold on to your belief?
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