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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Idealer(m): 10:46pm On Apr 01, 2018
Check out this concrete layering technique on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUgW5uLruHg
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rabcnesbit: 11:41pm On Apr 01, 2018
Idealer:
Check out this concrete layering technique on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUgW5uLruHg

This is not concrete laying per se. It is some of decoration known as pebble dashing. You apply a plaster of cement, and then apply the pebble dash.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Idealer(m): 2:13am On Apr 02, 2018
Had no idea what to call it but l was sure pros like you will chime in. It is pretty cool but labor intensive.
rabcnesbit:


This is not concrete laying per se. It is some of decoration known as pebble dashing. You apply a plaster of cement, and then apply the pebble dash.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tobbyboy2011: 3:49am On Apr 02, 2018
Good morning nairalanders, My bricklayer sent me quotations for block work of 3 sets of 2bedroom flats to lintel, all block works and pillars before decking.

Note: The foundation has already been done, completed!


Here is the quotation sir
1-)Blocks= 7,500 pieces amount =1,500,000
2-)Cement= 150bags amount =390,000
3-)Sand=120tonnes amount =264,000
4-)Granite =30tonnes amount =110,000
5-)Iron rod =140length amount =322,000
6-)Gutter Rod =40 length amount=68,000
7-)Binding wire =5,000
8-)Weda workmanship =40,000
9-)Capental workmanship =150,000
10)My workmanship =750,000
Total=3,599,000

We negotiated to reduce the workmanship to 500K.
Please my people in the house, help me look into it.

Thank you.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 7:16am On Apr 02, 2018
tobbyboy2011:
Good morning nairalanders, My bricklayer sent me quotations for block work of 3 sets of 2bedroom flats to lintel, all block works and pillars before decking.

Note: The foundation has already been done, completed!


Here is the quotation sir
1-)Blocks= 7,500 pieces amount =1,500,000
2-)Cement= 150bags amount =390,000
3-)Sand=120tonnes amount =264,000
4-)Granite =30tonnes amount =110,000
5-)Iron rod =140length amount =322,000
6-)Gutter Rod =40 length amount=68,000
7-)Binding wire =5,000
8-)Weda workmanship =40,000
9-)Capental workmanship =150,000
10)My workmanship =750,000
Total=3,599,000

We negotiated to reduce the workmanship to 500K.
Please my people in the house, help me look into it.

Thank you.

Although you should have attached a copy of your building plans for a better understanding, I think that;

1. You may not use up to 7500 blocks for 3 units of 2 bedroom flat. I think a maximum of 5,500 till above lintel, ready to deck.

2. The cement is not too much, if concrete cast of the columns and beams is inclusive.

3. 120 tonnes of sand for block setting and cast of concrete is too much. Block setting takes very little sand.

4. Granite seems adequate

5. What size of iron rod?

6. What size is gutter rod?

7. Binding wire seems adequate.

8. I know he means iron fitter, adequate

9. Carpentry should be a maximum of N80,000

10. If his workmanship is same as block setting and concrete cast labor, then its good at N500,000.00.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 8:00am On Apr 02, 2018
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tobbyboy2011:
Good morning nairalanders, My bricklayer sent me quotations for block work of 3 sets of 2bedroom flats to lintel, all block works and pillars before decking.

Note: The foundation has already been done, completed!


Here is the quotation sir
1-)Blocks= 7,500 pieces amount =1,500,000
2-)Cement= 150bags amount =390,000
3-)Sand=120tonnes amount =264,000
4-)Granite =30tonnes amount =110,000
5-)Iron rod =140length amount =322,000
6-)Gutter Rod =40 length amount=68,000
7-)Binding wire =5,000
8-)Weda workmanship =40,000
9-)Capental workmanship =150,000
10)My workmanship =750,000
Total=3,599,000

We negotiated to reduce the workmanship to 500K.
Please my people in the house, help me look into it.

Thank you.

A lot of things are vague because we don't have any template to access his quote. Please if anyone wants to seek help as regards labour cost and quotes please always post the building plan . Because quotation is dependent all numerous factors . 2bedrooms varies in sizes , This is the only way you can get proper advice.
Thanks and Happy Easter to all

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rabcnesbit: 10:14am On Apr 02, 2018
Good morning house. Peace and good health be unto you all. Please assist me with my confusion. If you ask 10 bricklayers about flooring your compound (concrete flooring), 5 will probably say you do not need BRC wire mesh, while the other 5 will say you do! Who is correct; why the opposing views? Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Skoopy(m): 11:25am On Apr 02, 2018
KolaShangOne:


We can build for you. And we are not expensive at all.

1) If you have a plan already, you can post it or send it to my mail.
2) what is your taste? Do you want P.O.P or P.V.C.? Do u want 'German floor or not? Do you want to use parapet? Do u want stone coated tiles or Longspan? Fence? Talk to your

With my own plan of a not too elaborate building and finishing, it will cost you about 6 million.
KolaShangOne
Good morning @KolaShangOne, I have a plan I want to develop here in Portland Harcourt as attached, on a dry land. What do you think will be the cost of making it come to existence. Looking forward to you prompt response.

Note : it's a 3bedroom all ensuit plan, I intend using stone coated tiles with POP too.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 11:29am On Apr 02, 2018
spyder880:


Although you should have attached a copy of your building plans for a better understanding, I think that;

1. You may not use up to 7500 blocks for 3 units of 2 bedroom flat. I think a maximum of 5,500 till above lintel, ready to deck.

2. The cement is not too much, if concrete cast of the columns and beams is inclusive.

3. 120 tonnes of sand for block setting and cast of concrete is too much. Block setting takes very little sand.

4. Granite seems adequate

5. What size of iron rod?

6. What size is gutter rod?

7. Binding wire seems adequate.

8. I know he means iron fitter, adequate

9. Carpentry should be a maximum of N80,000

10. If his workmanship is same as block setting and concrete cast labor, then its good at N500,000.00.

Nice one Spyder880. Very balanced and objective opinion.

Just as follow up, there's no quotation for wood. This is very significant because if they do " cast and transfer" the woods to next columns, the carpenter may want to charge a bit more for labour. The 80k is reasonable if the home owner is going to buy the whole wood and they cast everything at once.

Again, if they are doing "all round chaining" they may want to look again at the rod and granite quantities.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Cindino20(m): 11:32am On Apr 02, 2018
Good day All,

I need informed opinions about this issue.

I m currently planning to roof my project in Benin Using 0.55mm metcopo. The prices in Benin are 1000 naira / metre more than the prices in lagos.(advertised here on nairaland). The roofing area is ca. 550 metres. thats 550k and i m now inclined to buy the roofing sheets from lagos.

my questions are

1. Whats the reason for this price disparity between the price in lagos and that in Benin.

2. for those who' ve bought theirs in Lagos....did you make payment before delivery or after delivery?

3. what re the common gimmicks to watch out for.

I ve suggested to the seller to pay upon reciept or he should organise with the bank to withhold the money until i confirm receipt.

my fears are from my experience dealing with contractors or artisans in nigeria..most recently was the paraphet contractor i met online(jijg or so)...It took pressure for my friends for him to finish the job..and the job went on for 2 more weeks more than the estimated date of delivery ...I will not even go into how the carpenter ran away with part payment and i had to pay another capernter to finish the wood work...it was horrible experience and the last thing i need now is to go through such again


thanks in anticipation for a prompt reply.


Happy Holidays!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 11:39am On Apr 02, 2018
rabcnesbit:
Good morning house. Peace and good health be unto you all. Please assist me with my confusion. If you ask 10 bricklayers about flooring your compound (concrete flooring), 5 will probably say you do not need BRC wire mesh, while the other 5 will say you do! Who is correct; why the opposing views? Thanks
If u have the money, it is better to include wire mesh.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 12:04pm On Apr 02, 2018
rabcnesbit:
Good morning house. Peace and good health be unto you all. Please assist me with my confusion. If you ask 10 bricklayers about flooring your compound (concrete flooring), 5 will probably say you do not need BRC wire mesh, while the other 5 will say you do! Who is correct; why the opposing views? Thanks

We've had this debate before. The opposing view is because the jury is still out as to the role of BRC (wire mesh) in concrete mix.

In the trade, it is erroneously thought that BRC prevent concrete cracking. This is not structurally true. Concrete will crack irrespective of BRC if the mix ratio is poor or through improper curing.

But despite I would introduce BRC So why would I introduced BRC? Because with BRC; this is good curing practice as the BRC will help prevent the concrete from shrinking too much during the curing process. Too much shrinkage may lead to cracking. Is the very same reason the POP (wo)man introduces fibre mesh.

Another reason for wire mesh is to hold the concrete together. Without a wire mesh, if there is a crack, the cracked portion will come loose leading to potholes but with mesh, the cracked portion will be held together, leaving only the cracked lines.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 12:16pm On Apr 02, 2018
Cindino20:
Good day All,

I need informed opinions about this issue.

I m currently planning to roof my project in Benin Using 0.55mm metcopo. The prices in Benin are 1000 naira / metre more than the prices in lagos.(advertised here on nairaland). The roofing area is ca. 550 metres. thats 550k and i m now inclined to buy the roofing sheets from lagos.

my questions are

1. Whats the reason for this price disparity between the price in lagos and that in Benin.

2. for those who' ve bought theirs in Lagos....did you make payment before delivery or after delivery?

3. what re the common gimmicks to watch out for.

I ve suggested to the seller to pay upon reciept or he should organise with the bank to withhold the money until i confirm receipt.

my fears are from my experience dealing with contractors or artisans in nigeria..most recently was the paraphet contractor i met online(jijg or so)...It took pressure for my friends for him to finish the job..and the job went on for 2 more weeks more than the estimated date of delivery ...I will not even go into how the carpenter ran away with part payment and i had to pay another capernter to finish the wood work...it was horrible experience and the last thing i need now is to go through such again


thanks in anticipation for a prompt reply.


Happy Holidays!

Cindino20, run for your life; run from " horrible experience", run from metcopo.

Cindino20! Cindino20! Cindino20!!! How many times I call you? Run from metcopo.

I used metcopo over two years ago and I'm still maintaining and so are ALL home owners in my estate in Warri. Metcopo is a flawed design prone to leakage like mad.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 12:28pm On Apr 02, 2018
diordaves:


Cindino20, run for your life; run from " horrible experience", run from metcopo.

Cindino20! Cindino20! Cindino20!!! How many times I call you? Run from metcopo.

I used metcopo over two years ago and I'm still maintaining and so are ALL home owners in my estate in Warri. Metcopo is a flawed design prone to leakage like mad.





Probably u were swindled and 0.45mm was used instead of 0.55. U can buy from Lagos because the price difference is really much. Look for a tested and trusted roofer because u might need to make payment might be partial. But I need to commit. All the best.

I know derenyx can help with a good roofer
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Cindino20(m): 12:28pm On Apr 02, 2018
diordaves:


Cindino20, run for your life; run from " horrible experience", run from metcopo.

Cindino20! Cindino20! Cindino20!!! How many times I call you? Run from metcopo.

I used metcopo over two years ago and I'm still maintaining and so are ALL home owners in my estate in Warri. Metcopo is a flawed design prone to leakage like mad.






Wow shocked shocked Oghene!!!

Thanks Baba.

Can I use steptiles then....Will the wood work be okay for steptiles?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 12:32pm On Apr 02, 2018
[quote author=Cindino20 post=66365618][/quote]
both stepped tiles and Metcoppo all have the same issue if currugated with 0.45mm and also check the company you are getting it from.. you must make sure it's 0.55mm

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Cindino20(m): 12:33pm On Apr 02, 2018
akinolaolujide:

Probably u were swindled and 0.45mm was used instead of 0.55. U can buy from Lagos because the price difference is really much. Look for a tested and trusted roofer because u might need to make payment might be partial. But I need to commit. All the best.

I know derenyx can help with a good roofer

even if you use a 0.45mm instead of a 0.55mm...will that lead to such level of leakage?..I ve no experience in this but i suppose a thickness of .10mm which is less than 20% difference in thickness should not lead to such amount of leakage under 2years...the roof posted by @diordaves looks sloped and should not have such issues..

and can you please tell us what is the cause of this price difference between lagos and Benin?

Regards

C.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 12:45pm On Apr 02, 2018
Cindino20:


even if you use a 0.45mm instead of a 0.55mm...will that lead to such level of leakage...I ve no experience in this but i suppose a thickness of .10mm which is less than 20% difference in thickness should not lead to such amount of leakage under 2years...the roof posted by @diordaves looks sloped and should not have such issues..

and can you please tell us what is the cause of this price difference between lagos and Benin?

Regards
F
C.
There is a big difference in simple terms the machine stretches the aluminum while trying to corrugate it you don't need plenty sheets u just 4to5sheets to be faulty and all he'll will be let loose when it rains.
The gauge of the aluminum profile is very important.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:47pm On Apr 02, 2018
rabcnesbit:
Good morning house. Peace and good health be unto you all. Please assist me with my confusion. If you ask 10 bricklayers about flooring your compound (concrete flooring), 5 will probably say you do not need BRC wire mesh, while the other 5 will say you do! Who is correct; why the opposing views? Thanks

The jury is not really out.

You should use wire mesh because it has been proven to help prevent cracking.

On my site, I’ll be using it in areas of direct vehicular traffic. In other areas I am trusting the concrete mix.

So you don’t really need wire mesh but it’s good practice to do so as it’ll prevent crack.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 12:48pm On Apr 02, 2018
Cindino20:


even if you use a 0.45mm instead of a 0.55mm...will that lead to such level of leakage?..I ve no experience in this but i suppose a thickness of .10mm which is less than 20% difference in thickness should not lead to such amount of leakage under 2years...the roof posted by @diordaves looks sloped and should not have such issues..

and can you please tell us what is the cause of this price difference between lagos and Benin?

Regards

C.
As for the price difference I think that is dependent upon the manufacturer . For instance Tower is way more expensive that the regular guys we use . Tower aluminum are more expensive even than the south Korean stone coated roofing self.
I think maybe it's the manufacturer you approached or the person that quoted for the Job.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Cindino20(m): 1:01pm On Apr 02, 2018
akinolaolujide:

As for the price difference I think that is dependent upon the manufacturer . For instance Tower is way more expensive that the regular guys we use . Tower aluminum are more expensive even than the south Korean stone coated roofing self.
I think maybe it's the manufacturer you approached or the person that quoted for the Job.

thanks for the heads up mate!.

@GoodFaith did you get the review you asked for about the roofing guy from lagos....Check PM pls
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 1:05pm On Apr 02, 2018
Cindino20:


thanks for the heads up mate!.

@GoodFaith did you get the review you asked for about the roofing guy from lagos....Check PM pls

Got your email
send me your number
Email me your phone number
osawilliams88@gmail.com
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Cindino20(m): 1:11pm On Apr 02, 2018
GoodFaith:

Got your email
send me your number
Email me your phone number
osawilliams88@gmail.com

sent!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 1:12pm On Apr 02, 2018
EgunMogaji's I have tried to reach out to you regarding ?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:16pm On Apr 02, 2018
GoodFaith:
EgunMogaji's I have tried to reach out to you regarding ?

I thought I responded Sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 1:16pm On Apr 02, 2018
Cindino20:


sent!
just tried to reach u
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 1:20pm On Apr 02, 2018
Cindino20:


sent!
got it
I did try to reach Germany language
and something with SMS
Call me
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 2:46pm On Apr 02, 2018
akinolaolujide:

Probably u were swindled and 0.45mm was used instead of 0.55. U can buy from Lagos because the price difference is really much. Look for a tested and trusted roofer because u might need to make payment might be partial. But I need to commit. All the best.

I know derenyx can help with a good roofer

I wasn't swindled. The plan was for 0.45mm which was supplied. This is the appropriate guage for domestic use. 0.55mm and above is appropriate for industrial use. You know there's trouble when you recommend industrial standard for domestic use.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 2:47pm On Apr 02, 2018
diordaves:


Cindino20, run for your life; run from " horrible experience", run from metcopo.

Cindino20! Cindino20! Cindino20!!! How many times I call you? Run from metcopo.

I used metcopo over two years ago and I'm still maintaining and so are ALL home owners in my estate in Warri. Metcopo is a flawed design prone to leakage like mad.






Maybe your woodwork is not meant for Metcopo
Becos Metcopo and Steptiles design mk use if thesame woodwork and poline spacing . But few carpenter know this..
Reason why u need to know the design u are going for before the purchase.

Metcopo and Steptiles design are okay.

Not that Longspan is not good but depend on ur budget

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 2:50pm On Apr 02, 2018
diordaves:


I wasn't swindled. The plan was for 0.45mm which was supplied. This is the appropriate guage for domestic use. 0.55mm and above is appropriate for industrial use. You know there's trouble when you recommend industrial standard for domestic use.
I beg to differ sir, the issue to do with the curruvation noting more 0.45mm can be recommended for both domestic and industrial use as long as it's Longspan aluminum design.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 2:52pm On Apr 02, 2018
money121:


May your woodwork is not meant for Metcopo
Becos Metcopo and Steptiles design mk use if thesame woodwork and poline spacing . But few carpenter know this..
Reason why u need to know the design u are going for before the purchase.

Metcopo and Steptiles design are okay.

Not that Longspan is not good but depend on ur budget
Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by asids55: 2:55pm On Apr 02, 2018
I just got this bill for decking,what do you guys think?it's for a duplex on half a plot of land

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