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EMMAACHILE:
What has the poster done wrong? Is he giving false information? He is only enlightening many others who may be on the fence. The MBA stats are very detailed to the core. A small Google search from the top sites will do to correct the wrong info given on this thread.

If you mix a micro litre of Cyanide with your 10 Galons of clean water, the water is still poisoned and should not be drank.

A skewed report is not neccesarily a wrong one. I can give you an example: Jeff Bezos' son says he was employed by Amazon after going to HBS but he would have gotten that job even without HBS. HBS reports it still as student A employed because he is, but that is a skewed report.

People die after HBS. Some don't reply the polls or questionnaires. Who keeps track of those ones? 100% employability can be reported from (100% of the people who replied us said they got jobs). These are examples of skewed polls.

Even in the argumentative essays of the GRE this is the sort of critical reasoning that is tested. Many good sites will tell you question every poll. Don't swallow something because it is what you want to hear. Even the 2nd law of thermodynamics tells you 100% efficiency is a myth. I said second law not second assumption or hypothesis.

Scholastica16:
You need to understand that talk is cheap because the supply for it outweighs the demand.

That is why I laugh hard when I see ignoramuses hyperventilate. I know they are trying to use words to make up for the intelligence that nature did not grant them.

There was some other guy who was questioning my intelligence on this same thread when I recommended caution in the way he was blowing hot air. Few weeks later, Mr Man came here to post 278 GRE.

One trait of an intelligent person is caution. They know that the right answers or decisions are seldomly in the extremes. Even the standardized tests tell you: if the answer is too easily got, you are probably being trapped. If the solution is taking so long a time, you are taking a wrong step. There is always moderation in wisdom.

The OP who hastily generalized about HBS, realized his mistake and kept mum. He will re-evaluate what he believes and add to his knowledge. But trust a fool to use every opportunity to advertise his folly.

That guy is a packaged pseudo-Intellectual that is garmented in folly and delusion. It is not zeal, he is a misdirected dingbat. See how people who are in USA (some working and earning, others on full govt scholarships down to a return flight) are envying a rat that does not even know GRE or GMAT words.

Hehehehehehehehe
You said it finally
Talk is cheap!!!

That's why you're spewing thrash on things you know nothing about.

I'm glad I've been able to accurately counter your false assertions.

And I'm yet to see how working full time or having a scholarship gives one knowledge to discuss on MBA admissions and recruitment.

I'm also yet to see how working full time or having a scholarship stops one from poke nosing into issues that you have no idea about.

I'm also yet to see how GRE/GMAT correlates to success that warrants people to look down on you

But of course, those mean a lot to someone with a low IQ like you

Next time, go outside and tell people that all Harvard MBA students are children of rich men (hahahahahahah).

Or tell them MBA salary report is a yes/no questionnaire (hehehehehehe)


You be learner.

Scholastica16:
If you mix a micro litre of Cyanide with your 10 Galons of clean water, the water is still poisoned and should not be drank.

A skewed report is not neccesarily a wrong one. I can give you an example: Jeff Bezos' son says he was employed by Amazon after going to HBS but he would have gotten that job even without HBS. HBS reports it still as student A employed because he is, but that is a skewed report.

People die after HBS. Some don't reply the polls or questionnaires. Who keeps track of those ones? 100% employability can be reported from (100% of the people who replied us said they got jobs). These are examples of skewed polls.

Even in the argumentative essays of the GRE this is the sort of critical reasoning that is tested. Many good sites will tell you question every poll. Don't swallow something because it is what you want to hear. Even the 2nd law of thermodynamics tells you 100% efficiency is a myth. I said second law not second assumption or hypothesis.

Hehehehehehehehe
Each time you open your mouth to reply answers on this issue, you exhibit your high level of ignorance

I doubt you've ever seen an MBA employment report.

If you have seen one, you will know that statistics is taken for number of total graduated students, number of respondents and number of non respondents.

By looking at the data, you know everyone that responded and those that did not... That helps against making wrong analysis and conclusions.

good fight folks!!!!... enjoyed every bit of it

Good Morning All, thank u guys so much for the responses to my question. @bigfrancis21 @lagosismyhome and every other person who responded, I'm grateful.

LagosismyHome:
Is this for bsc and do u have another bsc

No

kcwitch:
GRE is for prospective postgraduate students. Undergrads do SAT

alright thanks and God bless you.

Hello house, I applied to university of Cincinnati, and I was given admission without funding but I went for the visa interview yesterday, My visa was granted:::: my problem is, i don't know what to do since I don't have the fund to start even for the first semester:::: now I have the Visa but confused: please I need your candid advise cause I'm a confused man already

alliswell77:
Hello house, I applied to university of Cincinnati, and I was given admission without funding but I went for the visa interview yesterday, My visa was granted:::: my problem is, i don't know what to do since I don't have the fund to start even for the first semester:::: now I have the Visa but confused: please I need your candid advise cause I'm a confused man already

For my masters program

LagosismyHome:
All you require for admission is online so you don't have to first go with b1b2 just to gain admission

Find a school, fulfil the requirement and then apply for student visa . However starting nursing after 8 years of BSC is not easy to convince a VO that you intend to come back. It is possible to get the visa but harder

thanks soo much

Walspring:
The advice your friend gave you is not really bad but you can do all these here online and get admitted to good university of yours but what should be your concerning is convincing VO the reason why you want to pursing a dream in nursing after 8 years.

ok ..THANK you soo much

alliswell77:
Hello house, I applied to university of Cincinnati, and I was given admission without funding but I went for the visa interview yesterday, My visa was granted:::: my problem is, i don't know what to do since I don't have the fund to start even for the first semester:::: now I have the Visa but confused: please I need your candid advise cause I'm a confused man already

Bro I sent you a mail to contact you, please I need information about the school you recently go admitted, university of Cincinnati. Congrats bro

alliswell77:
Hello house, I applied to university of Cincinnati, and I was given admission without funding but I went for the visa interview yesterday, My visa was granted:::: my problem is, i don't know what to do since I don't have the fund to start even for the first semester:::: now I have the Visa but confused: please I need your candid advise cause I'm a confused man already

Try applying for a loan as someone suggested here

Prodigy

bigfrancis21:
I just wanted to say that you are getting emotional over this topic, and you sound like MBA is something you want to do. I didn't mean to get you upset if I did nor discourage you. You are also quite excited over the quoted figures you've seen online and you think it is that easy but you need to be aware of these:

1) I assume that you are in Nigeria and would be studying MBA on an F1 visa. MBA is not a STEM-designated course which means that you cannot be employed on an H1B visa after graduation by any company. You will not be eligible for OPT (3-year post-graduation work opportunity for STEM students). You would need to have permanent residency to be employable nowadays which may likely take you an extra 1 to 3 years post-graduation to obtain. By the time you obtain your residency, you would not have been 'fresh off from school' as some employers prefer. Even for STEM-designated courses, with Trump's administration, chances of H1B sponsorship nowadays are very very slim.
Full list of STEM courses: https://www.ice.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Document/2016/stem-list.pdf

2) You probably don't know this but connection/knowing someone or 'networking' as they call it here is just as common as it is in Nigeria. Most of these people with 6 figures from an MBA landed their positions through old-boy friendships, connections or networking, in addition to having their MBA of course. An average Joe with an MBA can still land such high-paying positions but you have to be truly exceptional at what you do.

3) Speaking about your much-touted ROI. Now let us do the math. You spent $150,000 on average in heavy student debt to get an MBA. Let us assume that you are one lucky son of the stars and as an F1 student you graduated and out of nowhere got 'H1B sponsorship' at a $120,000 per year position right after graduation. Now you've worked so hard in school, made As and landed that $120,000 per year dream job. Wonderful.

Now you probably forgot that a heavy chunk of your income is taken away in taxes. For a $120,000 per year income, nearly $40,000 is taken from your paycheck in taxes. Precisely, $81,790 is what is left over after taxes are accounted for, which is about $6,815 per month. That is even though on paper it says that you earn $120,000, your actual take-home pay is $81,790 which is not 6-figures that you expected. https://www.taxformcalculator.com/tax/120000.html

Now it is time to start paying back all that student loan. The total amount which you will end up paying is probably over $200,000 which includes interest payments. You've graduated and the bank or financial institution has sent you a staggering bill of over $200,000 at xy% interest for 20 years with a monthly payment of $3250. Out of $6815 per month pay check ($3,145.26 every 2 weeks), you have to

- pay your student loan debt (anywhere between $3000 to $3,500 for that loan amount) per month. Read up here on this American who originally borrowed $68,000 to go to school who has to pay $113,000 back including interest. http://www.businessinsider.com/budget-paying-student-loans-2016-7 For this lady, she has to pay $2230 in monthly student loan payment for a bill of $113,000. For a bill of over $200k, you can expect your monthly payments to be nearly twice as $2230.

- pay your house rent (anywhere from $700 to $3000 depending on the housing type, number of rooms in the apartment rented, level of luxurious living) or monthly mortgage payments (if you bought a home)
- pay your utilities (you pay for all the 24-hour light, gas, Internet and running water that you enjoy - $100 to $350 on average depending on your level of usage)
- pay your monthly phone bill ($50 on average)
- pay your monthly auto loan (anywhere from $250 to $400)
- pay your monthly car insurance (anywhere from $80 to as high as $500 depending on how often you get into accidents, if you constantly get police tickets for overspeeding, running the red/stop light/sign etc. which stay on your driving record and bump up your monthly payments)
- pay for gassing up for your car ($100 on average)
- pay for feeding/groceries ($100 on average, that is if you can cook, which saves you more money than eating out)
- credit card bills/debt (if you accumulate any)
- miscellaneous expenses (such as parking tickets, tolls, relatives back home etc.)

Miscellaneous expenses: maybe in some months you manage to squeeze out $100 per month to save $500 and before you know it your family relative calls you from Nigeria telling you how they are suffering asking you to send them ordinary $1,000 so that they can start enjoying life. You look at your savings and you barely have $500 saved up and you don't know how to communicate this to your relative after all you already boasted to them sometime ago that you earn 6 figures per year. These calls just never stop coming in regularly. Now you are stuck in the rat race of majority of Americans - living from paycheck to paycheck and you dare cannot afford to lose your job.

At the end of the month, you are left with nothing as you struggle month to month servicing your $200k debt in student loans. High ROI isn't it?
It would be so easy for you to imagine an adjusted $81,000 per annum salary on a debt of over $200,000 as good ROI.

Bravo. People on here get seduced by packaging. Hopefully those who have ears will hear word. Speaking of top schools, I know a Nigerian a few years ago who used his life savings to go to IMD MBA with hopes of relocating. He couldn't find a job and returned to Nigeria to the same company he was trying to leave. Before someone starts blaming the guy, let me say we need to stop looking down on people who struggle overseas. Until you have walked in their shoes, you have no idea how tough it is. Let me tell you that a Harvard MBA who got a job at Goldman is not going to be half as judgemental of his fellow alumni who are struggling as people on Nairaland who never smell Cambridge.

alliswell77:
Hello house, I applied to university of Cincinnati, and I was given admission without funding but I went for the visa interview yesterday, My visa was granted:::: my problem is, i don't know what to do since I don't have the fund to start even for the first semester:::: now I have the Visa but confused: please I need your candid advise cause I'm a confused man already

Let hear your transcript..

EMMAACHILE:
What has the poster done wrong? Is he giving false information? He is only enlightening many others who may be on the fence. The MBA stats are very detailed to the core. A small Google search from the top sites will do to correct the wrong info given on this thread.

Anyone who does not know much about his/her courses should better remain in Nigeria instead of wasting his time and money in the USA or elsewhere. Many of these folks who are not fully educated about the choices may regret their options after years of hard work.



The world is now a smart one. No way I go for any course without knowing why I am going for that. Thank you. This argument should end here.

Oh! If only you understood me.I said I admire his zeal,but the way he drives it,is an ill wind that blows no one any good.I said in my post that it is the YOU that matters.There is a difference between intelligence and wisdom. Wisdom is to accept the opinions of others and sift the grains.Doing this,will prevent us from being careless. Because to be careless,is to care less!

My bosom friend who is a Forbes under 30 scholar(Kenneth Okwor ) attends Harvard Law School.Yet it is not the Harvard that will make him great,rather it is the stroke of FAVOR, intermingled with his great personality which he has,that will make him shine regardless.

PS: Those who spurn even the least advise of others have the tendency to abide in the assembly of shadows. Peace!

[quote author=Scholastica16 post=66414298]You need to understand that talk is cheap because the supply for it outweighs the demand.

That is why I laugh hard when I see ignoramuses hyperventilate. I know they are trying to use words to make up for the intelligence that nature did not grant them.

There was some other guy who was questioning my intelligence on this same thread when I recommended caution in the way he was blowing hot air. Few weeks later, Mr Man came here to post 278 GRE.

One trait of an intelligent person is caution. They know that the right answers or decisions are seldomly in the extremes. Even the standardized tests tell you: if the answer is too easily got, you are probably being trapped. If the solution is taking so long a time, you are taking a wrong step. There is always moderation in wisdom




My brother you have written well.Let's all allow the sleeping dog to lie.

Scholastica or what did you call yourself?
You must be daft for this rude and unmannered comment.
Why is it that you keep on being belligerent and fight all and sundry on this forum.
It appears your brain is little as that a fish.a shoulder high and good for nothing brat.i think I'm ready for you today.
If they born you well reply.

Scholastica16:
You need to understand that talk is cheap because the supply for it outweighs the demand.

That is why I laugh hard when I see ignoramuses hyperventilate. I know they are trying to use words to make up for the intelligence that nature did not grant them.

There was some other guy who was questioning my intelligence on this same thread when I recommended caution in the way he was blowing hot air. Few weeks later, Mr Man came here to post 278 GRE.

One trait of an intelligent person is caution. They know that the right answers or decisions are seldomly in the extremes. Even the standardized tests tell you: if the answer is too easily got, you are probably being trapped. If the solution is taking so long a time, you are taking a wrong step. There is always moderation in wisdom.

The OP who hastily generalized about HBS, realized his mistake and kept mum. He will re-evaluate what he believes and add to his knowledge. But trust a fool to use every opportunity to advertise his folly.

That guy is a packaged pseudo-Intellectual that is garmented in folly and delusion. It is not zeal, he is a misdirected dingbat. See how people who are in USA (some working and earning, others on full govt scholarships down to a return flight) are envying a rat that does not even know GRE or GMAT words.

platypelloid:
Scholastica or what did you call yourself?
You must be daft for this rude and unmannered comment.
Why is it that you keep on being belligerent and fight all and sundry on this forum.
It appears your brain is little as that a fish.a shoulder high and good for nothing brat.i think I'm ready for you today.
If they born you well reply.

...and I think we have a winner on that GRE story.

Baba don divert to street level oooo

platypelloid:
Scholastica or what did you call yourself?
You must be daft for this rude and unmannered comment.
Why is it that you keep on being belligerent and fight all and sundry on this forum.
It appears your brain is little as that a fish.a shoulder high and good for nothing brat.i think I'm ready for you today.
If they born you well reply.

Anyone studying in Rutgers University or intending to? I need opinions on the university.

Thanks

damzy88:
Anyone studying in Rutgers University or intending to? I need opinions on the university.

Thanks

Great University but living in New Jersey would not be cheap.

Who is attacking our great elder on this forum? Mind yourself o. The person you are attacking has single handedly taken different people to the US o. Sorry if he came off as harsh. He is not normally like that. We all can testify to that.

platypelloid:
Scholastica or what did you call yourself?
You must be daft for this rude and unmannered comment.
Why is it that you keep on being belligerent and fight all and sundry on this forum.
It appears your brain is little as that a fish.a shoulder high and good for nothing brat.i think I'm ready for you today.
If they born you well reply.

damzy88:
Anyone studying in Rutgers University or intending to? I need opinions on the university.

Thanks

Top notch!But you must get money o.

alliswell77:
Hello house, I applied to university of Cincinnati, and I was given admission without funding but I went for the visa interview yesterday, My visa was granted:::: my problem is, i don't know what to do since I don't have the fund to start even for the first semester:::: now I have the Visa but confused: please I need your candid advise cause I'm a confused man already

Transcript please

alliswell77:
Hello house, I applied to university of Cincinnati, and I was given admission without funding but I went for the visa interview yesterday, My visa was granted:::: my problem is, i don't know what to do since I don't have the fund to start even for the first semester:::: now I have the Visa but confused: please I need your candid advise cause I'm a confused man already

Transcript please

Ijebuboy525:
Bro please check your PM

pm replied

chism440:
ok ..THANK you soo much

Let's give all the thanks to God

@Scholastica16 and @Chidinho10

I wonder how you will be coping with your babes or fiance because of the way both of you keep on perambulating and repeating same thing.

The truth is no one can win all argument and it seems that both of you are not seeing things in that angle..

I must confess that I for one gained admission to an MBA program with full funding and I didnt even know what study abroad was until I came in touch with Scholastica16. Took his advice hook line and sinker and it worked for me.

Just worthy of note since this same course is the subject of argument here. The positive though is that through this, more light has been shed on the subject and a lot of people can learn from it.

There are so many behind the scenes in choosing a school, funding and G.As that are not posted on the pages of school websites and my journey in this same regard for the past couple of months have been very challenging but rewarding. Had to quit my job at some point and focus squarely on my plans. Many of the decisions I took worked for me. I guess everyone just has to find his own path based on different advice from different places.

Though I'm known to always aggressively stick my neck out for courses I believe in, which turns out to be cantankerous in effect at times, I think you guys should just maintain a state of halcyon and let's focus on helping others achieve what we have achieved.

gokuu:
...and I think we have a winner on that GRE story.

What?