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did_sofia_omidiji_played in the game?

Enoma222:
did_sofia_omidiji_played in the game?

She and Goalkeeper Onyinyechi Okeke didn't play,,

BascoVanVeli:
These girls play in league all around the world. It is not the league that should sit up but the NFF and coach.

I will disagree with you a little bit on that...Though the NFF and coach has a lot to do by organising friendlies, scouting, instilling technical knowledge into the girls, and creating an enabling environment for them....but take a look at countries with good national teams in female football and tell which one became successful by depending on foreign based players...the chunk of their players play locally...Is it Japan, USA, England, France, China, Germany, Sweden...pls name one.

And trust me, male football is different from female football, where you can camp them for a few days to a match and get a decent result, female players need time to gel...and for that to happen you need a vibrant league players who are to be complemented by few foreign based players on match days. My opinion though

blazer2018:
I will disagree with you a little bit on that...Though the NFF and coach has a lot to do by organising friendlies, scouting, instilling technical knowledge into the girls, and creating an enabling environment for them....Take a look at countries with good national teams in female football and tell which one became successful by depending on foreign based players...the chunk of their players play locally...Is it Japan, USA, England, France, China, Germany, Sweden...pls name one.

And trust me, male football is different from female football, where you can camp them for a few days to a match and get a decent result, female players need time to gel...and for that to happen you need a vibrant league players who are to be complemented by few foreign based players on match days. My opinion though

l agree. There was a time when we had the bulk of our players playing together at Rivers Angels and the local league and it was much better.

BascoVanVeli:
Please don't even start making up bogus excuses. How did he know to pick the one's that he picked? Are u saying the he didn't assess the team before he took the job? Lets get real. Against one of the most potent offenses in the world we played with 4 defenders and 6 attackers, that is just ridiculous and u know it. If this was Okon or Dedevbo people would be calling for heads.

Imagine, what was the coach thinking fielding an offensive team against an offensive but far more lethal attack...Imagine Arsenal playing an offensive game against Bayern or Barca or Man City....even with the defensive play, dem still dey chop am, but it won't be too embarrassing...

Daejoyoung:
l agree. There was a time when we had the bulk of our players playing together at Rivers Angels and the local league and it was much better.

Thank you

blazer2018:
Thank you...

You, PDPguy and Royalblak007 all tried.... lol

But eventually , complete sports didn't pick one word from all you guys spilled. They simply used "batter" or battered.

https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/france-batter-super-falcons-8-0-in-friendly/

blazer2018:
I will disagree with you a little bit on that...Though the NFF and coach has a lot to do by organising friendlies, scouting, instilling technical knowledge into the girls, and creating an enabling environment for them....but take a look at countries with good national teams in female football and tell which one became successful by depending on foreign based players...the chunk of their players play locally...Is it Japan, USA, England, France, China, Germany, Sweden...pls name one.

And trust me, male football is different from female football, where you can camp them for a few days to a match and get a decent result, female players need time to gel...and for that to happen you need a vibrant league players who are to be complemented by few foreign based players on match days. My opinion though

wrong suggestion ...every country need their foreign player or u loose them to another country ...see this your mentality is bad....if you loose today dose not mean you we loose tomorrow give the coach more time nigerians are too quick to judge and persecute......

Enoma222:
wrong suggestion ...every country need their foreign player or u loose them to another country ...see this your mentality is bad....if you loose today dose not mean you we loose tomorrow give the coach more time nigerians are too quick to judge and persecute......

Yeah but we must not depend on foreign based players but look deep within to discover new players from our local league.
The problem is not that we lost, but that we were disgraced.

TheSuperNerd:
You, PDPguy and Royalblak007 all tried.... lol

But eventually , complete sports didn't pick one word from all you guys spilled. They simply used "batter" or battered.

https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/france-batter-super-falcons-8-0-in-friendly/

Enoma222:
wrong suggestion ...every country need their foreign player or u loose them to another country ....

I don't think most of these foreign based players can represent any country other than Nigeria, since they have bn capped...Maybe Sophia Omidiji...So there's nothing like losing them to another country.

When you have very good players plying their trades locally as the spine of your team, foreign based players will work harder knowing that their status doesn't guarantee a starting shirt at the national team...For example now, most of the foreign based players (whether fit or not...whether bn benched at their clubs or not)are sure of a starting shirt when they return home.

Enoma222:
.see this your mentality is bad....if you loose today dose not mean you we loose tomorrow give the coach more time nigerians are too quick to judge and persecute......

Quick to persecute? like seriously? In fact, apart from the players, both NFF and the coach needs more sticks abeg...A team have not played a single match for 16 months and they return with a 2-day training to face a lethal french side...not wise enough

And as for the coach; he got it all wrong tactically...some say he's new...my question is what has he bn doing since his appointment...are there no clips of these players in NFF's archives...or even youtube?...Setting up like that against France was asking for trouble to start with

Talk like a coach or at least someone that understands football. We had a 23 man list, 5 couldn't make it, we played with 18. Access players with how many days? They trained for just 2 days so what kind of accessment would be done in 2 days? How will he access players that haven't grouped for months going into years? How many of these players would you say we're 100% playing active football? If you're told to pick 23 man list for the falcons now, can you do that without having to Google them up?

Swipe this to the eagles, imagine Rohr getting appointed to coach an eagle that hasn't grouped for close to 2 years with majority of them not knowing each other or last played with each other close to 2 years ago, then you ask him to pick his squad to go face Spain or Germany. What would you think will happen?

BascoVanVeli:
Please don't even start making up bogus excuses. How did he know to pick the one's that he picked? Are u saying the he didn't assess the team before he took the job? Lets get real. Against one of the most potent offenses in the world we played with 4 defenders and 6 attackers, that is just ridiculous and u know it. If this was Okon or Dedevbo people would be calling for heads.

the nigerian girls did not have much time to blend together as a term we should blame NFF more....for this embarrassment

Enoma222:
the nigerian girls did not have much time to blend together as a term we should blame NFF more....for this embarrassment

My problem with this is.. They knew they wouldn't have much time to blend as a team, then why play Frances? why not start with Finland, Hungary, Mexico or even China? l have always been against this friendly with Frances because l knew we would be disgraced. Even our attackers had no chance to show their stuff in that game.

Daejoyoung:
My problem with this is.. They knew they wouldn't have much time to blend as a team, then why play Frances? why not start with Finland, Hungary, Mexico or even China? l have always been against this friendly with Frances because l knew we would be disgraced. Even our attackers had no chance to show their stuff in that game.

yeah i think so, France was just too much to play i guess it was a bad decision that why am blaming the NFF for dis embarrassment

Same thing i have been saying since, yet some people rather blame the wrong set of people.

Daejoyoung:
My problem with this is.. They knew they wouldn't have much time to blend as a team, then why play Frances? why not start with Finland, Hungary, Mexico or even China? l have always been against this friendly with Frances because l knew we would be disgraced. Even our attackers had no chance to show their stuff in that game.

blazer2018:
I will disagree with you a little bit on that...Though the NFF and coach has a lot to do by organising friendlies, scouting, instilling technical knowledge into the girls, and creating an enabling environment for them....but take a look at countries with good national teams in female football and tell which one became successful by depending on foreign based players...the chunk of their players play locally...Is it Japan, USA, England, France, China, Germany, Sweden...pls name one.

And trust me, male football is different from female football, where you can camp them for a few days to a match and get a decent result, female players need time to gel...and for that to happen you need a vibrant league players who are to be complemented by few foreign based players on match days. My opinion though

We have the best league in Africa. Our true captain Evelyn Nwabuoku plays for Rivers angels, Ajibade plays for FC Robo. We have plenty of talent in the league.

somehow:
Talk like a coach or at least someone that understands football. We had a 23 man list, 5 couldn't make it, we played with 18. Access players with how many days? They trained for just 2 days so what kind of accessment would be done in 2 days? How will he access players that haven't grouped for months going into years? How many of these players would you say we're 100% playing active football? If you're told to pick 23 man list for the falcons now, can you do that without having to Google them up?

Swipe this to the eagles, imagine Rohr getting appointed to coach an eagle that hasn't grouped for close to 2 years with majority of them not knowing each other or last played with each other close to 2 years ago, then you ask him to pick his squad to go face Spain or Germany. What would you think will happen?

Out of the 5 how many were midfielders. U are saying talk like a coach and yet u want me to accept going into a match against a big team like France without a DMF on the pitch? That is a sin against football.
You keep talking about time but if u are a coach who knows in advance that he won't have time to instill his methods on his wards but if so wouldn't u make sure that you keep it tight in the back and not get embarrassed? Why the he!! would u put out an offensive team when u know that time is against u? These girls know each other and they have been actively playing football at their clubs there is no reason why we should be getting disgraced like this in 2018.
U talk about Rohr but even against Tanzania in Uyo he didn't play 6 attacking players.

Who and who know eachother and have been actively playing football together apart from the old names that didn't even play together since 2016?

Apart from the midfielders we fielded yesterday, mention 5 known midfielders that should have been there.

Thanks

BascoVanVeli:
Out of the 5 how many were midfielders. U are saying talk like a coach and yet u want me to accept going into a match against a big team like France without a DMF on the pitch? That is a sin against football.
You keep talking about time but if u are a coach who knows in advance that he won't have time to instill his methods on his wards but if so wouldn't u make sure that you keep it tight in the back and not get embarrassed? Why the he!! would u put out an offensive team when u know that time is against u? These girls know each other and they have been actively playing football at their clubs there is no reason why we should be getting disgraced like this in 2018.
U talk about Rohr but even against Tanzania in Uyo he didn't play 6 attacking players.

somehow:
Who and who know eachother and have been actively playing football together apart from the old names that didn't even play together since 2016?

Apart from the midfielders we fielded yesterday, mention 5 known midfielders that should have been there.

Thanks

So because they haven't played together in 2 years that means they don't know each other?
See 50 Cent 21 questions. Ok let me humor u for a second Igbinovia, Ayinde, Cecilia Nku, Joy Bokiri and Evelyn Nwabuoku all workman midfielders that love the defensive side of the game. If that is not good for u good enough we have a whole league and U20 players to select from. Also there are plenty of Nigerians in Sweden, the coach is Swedish and he coached in Sweden so no excuses.

blazer2018:
I will disagree with you a little bit on that...Though the NFF and coach has a lot to do by organising friendlies, scouting, instilling technical knowledge into the girls, and creating an enabling environment for them....but take a look at countries with good national teams in female football and tell which one became successful by depending on foreign based players...the chunk of their players play locally...Is it Japan, USA, England, France, China, Germany, Sweden...pls name one.

And trust me, male football is different from female football, where you can camp them for a few days to a match and get a decent result, female players need time to gel...and for that to happen you need a vibrant league players who are to be complemented by few foreign based players on match days. My opinion though

True talk. Let's improve our league first.

Oparanozie: Nigeria's lack of 'adequate preparation' to blame for drubbing
By Oluwashina Okeleji
BBC Sport, Reims
7 Apr
Nigeria's players ahead of their friendly international against France in Le Mans on Friday night
Nigeria striker Desire Oparanozie says a lack of "adequate preparation" was to blame for their 8-0 drubbing by France in a women's friendly international in Le Mans on Friday night.
Valérie Gauvin's hat-trick, plus goals from Eugénie Le Sommer, Gaetane Thiney, Aminata Diallo, Marie-Charlotte Léger and Faith Ikidi's own goal resulted in Nigeria equalling their record defeats against Norway (1995) and Germany (2010).
It was a blow for Thomas Dennerby in his first real test as Nigeria coach.
The bulk of us came from outside France and had just one full day of training together before match day
Desire Oparanozie
Nigeria striker
The Super Falcons were playing their first match since winning an eighth Women's Africa Cup of Nations title in December 2016.
"To be honest, I think we didn't have adequate preparation going into this game, taking into consideration the fact that we were inactive for as long as we were - 16 months," France-based Nigeria striker Desire Oparanozie told BBC Sport.
"We are the champions of Africa and we can all say it was rightly deserving. However, we can't deny the fact that while we were out, our opposition have been busy getting stronger.
"They were definitely more prepared than we were. They began camping before us even though most of them are home based. The bulk of us came from outside France and had just one full day of training together before match day.
"I admit it might not be a good enough reason for the scoreline but France were bound to put in a better showing than us," Oparanozie added.
Decimated by late withdrawals and without reigning African footballer of the year, Asisat Oshoala, Nigeria were forced to include five new players into the 18-team squad.
The French side, who beat the Black Queens of Ghana by the same scoreline last October, dominated play to prove that continental giants Nigeria are still way behind Europe's best.
Despite the result, Oparanozie insisted there are some positives to take from their time in France.
"It's been good here and I also have to note the introduction of some new young players into the squad for the very first time," said Oparanozie of their training camp.
"They are definitely good additions and one thing is certain, as long as they continue to work hard they would only serve to make the team stronger.
"Importantly, the fact that this is our first training camp with the coach, we have started to get his idea of football and that's a positive."
As the players return to their different clubs, focus will switch to securing a qualifying spot at the 2018 Africa Women Cup of Nations in Ghana as they aim to retain their continental title.
This year's Women's Nations Cup will take on extra significance as it will also decide the continent's teams for the 2019 Women's World Cup - in what could be Nigeria's eighth record appearance at the tournament.
Oparanozie welcomes the latest friendly against France but insists they need more games to progress.
"We deserve consistent engagements with Grade A opposition just as we hope to compete against them on the global stage.
"We also need proper facilities...and women teams need adequate, documented and properly planned logistical arrangements, preferably before tournaments/camping to ensure seamless experiences."
Nigeria are the only African team to have played in all of the Women's World Cup tournaments since 1991.
They have failed to translate their continental dominance on the world stage, their best performance coming in USA in 1999 when they reached the quarter-finals.

I know we will lose but not by this scoreline

Any way the match has come and gone,we need more friendly for the girls,the NFF shall organized two more friendly for the girls among the following countries before the next rankings in June
Ireland, Iceland,Thailand, Vietnam, Portugal, italy,Poland,new Zealand, russia,scotland. Or wales

Match highlights (basically France goals only)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmWbO4pKEwE

It was a poor showing from an obviously rusty team. However, I think a few things became clear.
1. Rita Chikwelu is not the agile midfielder she used to be. It is not enough to just be a slow midfielder spraying passes around. That can work against Kenya, but a physically good team will isolate her. For me, Rita Chikwelu is past it and should allow a much younger, agile midfield enforcer. We have them aplenty. Osas Igbinovia would slot into that role with no fuss.
2. The defense is poor and we need to overhaul the defensive personnel totally. I dont mean bringing back Onome, but I mean replacing players like Ikidi and finding a good competitor for Ohale.
3. The attack is still very potent, and world class. They need understanding and only frequent friendly matches can help that.

Finally, I propose that the NFF should arrange friendlies for the Falcons against lesser European, Asian and even Carribean teams. However, knowing who Pinnick is, the falcons may not play another friendly till they're preparing for Afcon in Ghana. That time, they may play an U17 boys team in Abuja.

And you for sure believe these players were available or in-form and the coach didn't reach out to them? can you prove that? he should pick from U20? well it's easy to drum with your mouth when you're not on the drum.

BascoVanVeli:
So because they haven't played together in 2 years that means they don't know each other?
See 50 Cent 21 questions. Ok let me humor u for a second Igbinovia, Ayinde, Cecilia Nku, Joy Bokiri and Evelyn Nwabuoku all workman midfielders that love the defensive side of the game. If that is not good for u good enough we have a whole league and U20 players to select from. Also there are plenty of Nigerians in Sweden, the coach is Swedish and he coached in Sweden so no excuses.

olapluto:
Match highlights (basically France goals only)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmWbO4pKEwE

It was a poor showing from an obviously rusty team. However, I think a few things became clear.
1. Rita Chikwelu is not the agile midfielder she used to be. It is not enough to just be a slow midfielder spraying passes around. That can work against Kenya, but a physically good team will isolate her. For me, Rita Chikwelu is past it and should allow a much younger, agile midfield enforcer. We have them aplenty. Osas Igbinovia would slot into that role with no fuss.
2. The defense is poor and we need to overhaul the defensive personnel totally. I dont mean bringing back Onome, but I mean replacing players like Ikidi and finding a good competitor for Ohale.
3. The attack is still very potent, and world class. They need understanding and only frequent friendly matches can help that.

Finally, I propose that the NFF should arrange friendlies for the Falcons against lesser European, Asian and even Carribean teams. However, knowing who Pinnick is, the falcons may not play another friendly till they're preparing for Afcon in Ghana. That time, they may play an U17 boys team in Abuja.

no good coach,will drop Faith ikidi to the Bench. she is among the top3 defenders in the Swedish women football Leagues.

somehow:
And you for sure believe these players were available or in-form and the coach didn't reach out to them? can you prove that? he should pick from U20? well it's easy to drum with your mouth when you're not on the drum.

This is not a court room stop trying to defy common sense with technicalities. U asked for 5 midfielders and I gave you 5 now just because I also added that we have midfielders in our U20 you are trying to save your self/coach with form talk. U are the same person who said he didn't have enough time to know players but yet u are saying he had time to judge the form of our U20 girls? The coach screwed up accept it and move on.

Yes he didn't have enough time to know his players which is the gospel truth, most of the players he used were people on ground already and those recommended by the NFF except you think otherwise.

The names you dropped are the random ones we already know, question I should ask you is, how did you know they were available and he didn't call them? Even when 5 couldn't make it, do you think if any of them were available, they wouldn't have called them?

In a nutshell, playing France yesterday was a bad decision. The deed has been done. Now the coach can go ahead to assemble his own set of players just as Rohr is currently doing. Then and then will you know if it's the fault of the coach or not.

The names you dropped can't be ascertained to be available or active or can you prove they were available and he didn't call them? This question you can't ignore.

BascoVanVeli:
This is not a court room stop trying to defy common sense with technicalities. U asked for 5 midfielders and I gave you 5 now just because I also added that we have midfielders in our U20 you are trying to save your self/coach with form talk. U are the same person who said he didn't have enough time to know players but yet u are saying he had time to judge the form of our U20 girls? The coach screwed up accept it and move on.

somehow:
Yes he didn't have enough time to know his players which is the gospel truth, most of the players he used were people on ground already and those recommended by the NFF except you think otherwise.

The names you dropped are the random ones we already know, question I should ask you is, how did you know they were available and he didn't call them? Even when 5 couldn't make it, do you think if any of them were available, they wouldn't have called them?

In a nutshell, playing France yesterday was a bad decision. The deed has been done. Now the coach can go ahead to assemble his own set of players just as Rohr is currently doing. Then and then will you know if it's the fault of the coach or not.

The names you dropped can't be ascertained to be available or active or can you prove they were available and he didn't call them? This question you can't ignore.

This is were I have a problem with your reasoning. This is a professional coach who has coached and scouted for Sweden. Why in god's name would u think he would take a job without knowing what type of players he is about to manage? Can he not watch old tapes to at least know of the players?
Anyone with knowledge of our women's football know's those names, they are not random at all. If the coach had called any holding midfielders and they couldn't come then that is a different matter but even the extra 5 were either defenders or strikers what can't u get about that? Our next question should be why not put a defender in that position at least to protect your CB's? Because we should never field a team without a DMF.

olapluto:
Match highlights (basically France goals only)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmWbO4pKEwE

It was a poor showing from an obviously rusty team. However, I think a few things became clear.
1. Rita Chikwelu is not the agile midfielder she used to be. It is not enough to just be a slow midfielder spraying passes around. That can work against Kenya, but a physically good team will isolate her. For me, Rita Chikwelu is past it and should allow a much younger, agile midfield enforcer. We have them aplenty. Osas Igbinovia would slot into that role with no fuss.
2. The defense is poor and we need to overhaul the defensive personnel totally. I dont mean bringing back Onome, but I mean replacing players like Ikidi and finding a good competitor for Ohale.
3. The attack is still very potent, and world class. They need understanding and only frequent friendly matches can help that.

Finally, I propose that the NFF should arrange friendlies for the Falcons against lesser European, Asian and even Carribean teams. However, knowing who Pinnick is, the falcons may not play another friendly till they're preparing for Afcon in Ghana. That time, they may play an U17 boys team in Abuja.

Watch that video again, in every open play goal there were only 4 Nigerians in the picture. The defense had zero protection.

BascoVanVeli:
Watch that video again, in every open play goal there were only 4 Nigerians in the picture. The defense had zero protection.

Rita Chikwelu= Defensive midfielder. The first goal was particularly damning for Faith Ikidi. Seems the ladies who play in Sweden have not improved much.

You still failed the question. How are you sure these names you listed were available? Are you also sure they didn't reach out to these names before drafting the 23 man list?

This is female football, not male, alot would have happened to these "ladies/women" within 2 years of not playing together, some might have even gotten pregnant or some women issues. You don't know. So saying the coach left them out is pure assumption. BTW, watching videos solve nada except If these names play in clubs that can be seen on tapes. You're talking like female leagues in most countries are easily accessible.

In a nutshell, the coach didn't make us lose 8:0, it's the wrong timing and bad judgement from the NFF that caused it. Pure and simple!

BascoVanVeli:
This is were I have a problem with your reasoning. This is a professional coach who has coached and scouted for Sweden. Why in god's name would u think he would take a job without knowing what type of players he is about to manage? Can he not watch old tapes to at least know of the players?
Anyone with knowledge of our women's football know's those names, they are not random at all. If the coach had called any holding midfielders and they couldn't come then that is a different matter but even the extra 5 were either defenders or strikers what can't u get about that? Our next question should be why not put a defender in that position at least to protect your CB's? Because we should never field a team without a DMF.