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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 11:54pm On Apr 07, 2018
Eruditor:
It is simple: Rio was the best defender in 2001 (atleast in England). Fergie knew he had to pay heavy to price him out of Leeds.

VVD is regarded by many as the Rio of today (in England) and was purchased for £75M.
Wow! You are not living up to your name. VVD? he was never compared to Ferdinand. Holy Christ! People were screaming at his price because for one, a player from Southampton should never cost that much, how much more a defender who wasn't even consistent at the time. Back to our argument VVD's cost has nothing to do with Ferdinand, it is so absurd there's no relationship that will cause VVD's valuation by Southampton to be What Ferdinand will cost today. For all we know Ferdinand could still be the price of Bailly and still be very good. Prime Ferdinand could have cost 5, 30, or 100 million pounds.. no one will ever know so don't say this player will cost this now and make it fact. It can never be fact, just an observation based on current market trend
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 11:54pm On Apr 07, 2018
Eruditor:
I gave something logically sound above.

For example, Newcastle paid £15M for Shearer in 1996 making him most expensive English and world player at the time.

That value is equivalent to Neymar's value now or Pogba's last season.
Ehmmm.... If there's no fiscal proof to support this claim, it won't fly.

No way £15M of 1996 is technically equivalent to almost £200m in 2017.

If you can prove that, I'll be glad to learn a new thing today.

Where's Pa Ibime, I think he's good with real life valuation sef.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:55pm On Apr 07, 2018
Eruditor:
El Rony can as well ask why Pep did not win the EPL when he was in Barca. Or why he is yet to repeat as EPL champ.
Bros. I know you are trying to make an argument but what you typed up there is totally illogical, incoherent and out of context to what elrony said.

If the point was Arsenal's goalpost, you are sunkenPlace Morata.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 11:56pm On Apr 07, 2018
Leyqute:
grin

Apparently, to dominate has a different meaning in the world of some peeps
grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 11:56pm On Apr 07, 2018
joeace2020:
Wow! You are not living up to your name. VVD? he was never compared to Ferdinand. Holy Christ! People were screaming at his price because for one, a player from Southampton should never cost that much, how much more a defender who wasn't even consistent at the time. Back to our argument VVD's cost has nothing to do with Ferdinand, it is so absurd there's no relationship that will cause VVD's valuation by Southampton to be What Ferdinand will cost today. For all we know Ferdinand could still be the price of Bailly and still be very good.
To make Ferdinand the most expensive defender Fergie paid £30m. If he had offered less, Leeds would not take.

Same way, whoever wanted VVD so much paid £75M for him making him the same title Ferdie had. Simple.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 11:56pm On Apr 07, 2018
joeace2020:
We thought he could take Zabaleta, Sagna, Kolarov, Nolito and co to new levels. But dominance only means spending more than the rest 19 teams on a whole new 11. So much for dominating
Lol
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 11:57pm On Apr 07, 2018
elrony:
Ehmmm.... If there's no fiscal proof to support this claim, it won't fly.

No way £15M of 1996 is technically equivalent to almost £200m in 2017.

If you can prove that, I'll be glad to learn a new thing today.

Where's Pa Ibime, I think he's good with real life valuation sef.
What money do I need to spend today to make Kane the worlds most expensive player?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 11:58pm On Apr 07, 2018
Leyqute:
Bros. I know you are trying to make an argument but what you typed up there is totally illogical, incoherent and out of context to what elrony said.

If the point was Arsenal's goalpost, you are sunkenPlace Morata.
It is as out of context as asking why someone who is winning the league now did not win last season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 11:58pm On Apr 07, 2018
odizeey:
that guy deserves all the madness I can give. Only a mad man will enjoy mourhino present style of football. Sorry to say
Either he is mad, used to mediocrity or he started supporting UTD during Moyes's era.

I just can't understand how a sane human being could even try to defend this shyte Mourinho has served us so far after TWO SUCCESSFUL SUMMER TRANSFERS.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:58pm On Apr 07, 2018
elrony:
Na true sef... where's Skimpledawg sef?
E go visit co-ed. She needs to be taught some lessons.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 11:58pm On Apr 07, 2018
Eruditor:
You asked why he did not win the league last season. How does it correlate to winning it now?

Did Fergie win in his first season?
Nah, you totally missed the point by a very wide margin! grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 12:00am On Apr 08, 2018
Leyqute:
E go visit co-ed. She needs to be taught some lessons.
Lol... cheesy grin grin

He must give us results of his efforts!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:00am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:
How much will the worlds most expensive defender cost today?
According to Dayo, Ferdie should not be more than $50m
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 12:00am On Apr 08, 2018
elrony:
Nah, you totally missed the point by a very wide margin! grin
Or you made none by a very wide margin?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 12:00am On Apr 08, 2018
chic2pimp:
Have you adjusted for inflation or taken into account the ridiculous transfer market we currently find ourselves in where Average joes cost 40Million+?
Okay lets buy all the average joe's we can find at 40 mil+.. Youth team? Fvck them! Pep Guardiola the master dominator
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 12:01am On Apr 08, 2018
eph12:
According to Dayo, Ferdie should not be more than $50m
Same way, Pogba is not worth £89m but that is what United paid to get him.

Now you get.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 12:01am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:
United Treble the team had 78points to Arsenal's 77.
Beat Arsenal 2-1 after Dennis Berg missed a penalty FA Cup semis.
Scored 2 late goals to win the UCL.

Arsene could very well have done that double.

But that team was miles ahead of a City team that has 84 by Match day 32.
I don't think some of these Pephaters know how ridiculous they sound at times. If He wins na trouble, draw na trouble, loose nko more trouble. If they were that demanding of their respective coaches, they'll win the treble every SINGLE year.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 12:01am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:
What money do I need to spend today to make Kane the worlds most expensive player?
More than £200m cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 12:02am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:
It is as out of context as asking why someone who is winning the league now did not win last season.
If, as an erudite, you can't figure out your goof by yourself, your moniker needs to be demoted to "Dejo".

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 12:02am On Apr 08, 2018
chic2pimp:
I don't think some of these Pephaters know how ridiculous they sound at times. If He wins na trouble, draw na trouble, loose nko more trouble. If they were that demanding of their respective coaches, they'll win the treble every SINGLE year.
Exactly. It is now why he has not won another Treble or else he is a fraud. LOL
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 12:04am On Apr 08, 2018
elrony:
Lol... cheesy grin grin

He must give us results of his efforts!
By force and faya! Else we go sack am from the ministry!!

cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 12:04am On Apr 08, 2018
Leyqute:
If, as an erudite, you can't figure out your goof by yourself your moniker needs to be demoted to "Dejo".
The person who goofed needs you to bail him out.

Managers are not judged by when they won anything. Or else, if Pep wins UCL this season El Rony is allowed to ask why he did not win it last season?

Kapische?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:05am On Apr 08, 2018
chic2pimp:
It was Pep's Foresight and brilliance that made Him promote Busquets from La Masia when most were still saying Yaya was better. Left to another coach, CryChokeWack as Dayo calls Him might be Barca's defensive midfielder as we speak.

It was due to Pep's brilliance that Xavi and Iniesta became Core members of that team. Xavi was pretty much half way through the door prior to his appointment and Iniesta was neither here nor there alternating between several positions in that team.

That's besides the point however as no one calls Aragones a Fraud.
I don't get you. Aragones has already won euros with Spain with Xavi as the best player. Iniesta was close second, Puyol is already there even before pep took over. Even a fool will not not ofload them. It doesn't require genius to build your team around Xavi and Iniesta. Added that Messi one of the greatest players to ever exist was added fell on him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 12:05am On Apr 08, 2018
chic2pimp:
I don't think some of these Pephaters know how ridiculous they sound at times. If He wins na trouble, draw na trouble, loose nko more trouble. If they were that demanding of their respective coaches, they'll win the treble every SINGLE year.
Pep lovers should stop telling us he is dominating.. By the way were where they last year? Glory hunting minions crawling out from their cess pits now trying to rewrite history as if last season didn't happen.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 12:05am On Apr 08, 2018
elrony:
More than £200m cheesy
Exactly.

So when Fergie did that for Ferdie. It means he would have needed same amount this season if he wanted VVD.

Thus, rubbishing the Fergie spent bla bla in 26 years.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 12:09am On Apr 08, 2018
elrony:
More than £200m cheesy
So finally we have the newly invented device for Player valuation. Throw in the name of any player from an era and it will calculate. Please Eruditor how much will cryuff cost now, pele, gerd muller...how much will they cost now?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 12:09am On Apr 08, 2018
Leyqute:
UnkuChik, Pep is yet to dominate the EPL. You can't summarily announce that someone has dominated a league when he hasn't even won it in his lifetime.

Even after winning the league this season, pep won't have dominated the EPL. Else, you can say Conte and Ranieri also dominated the EPL.

The only person who has dominated the EPL is SAF, and that is because he won the league time after time again.
He has already won it abi are you willing to stake £500 only?

Yes Conte and Claudio won the league but both teams were no where as Dominant as Pep's team currently is.

I disagree. You don't have to win time and again to be Dominant. The Arsenal Invincibles for example were Dominant in that 03/04 Season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:10am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:
United Treble the team had 78points to Arsenal's 77.
Beat Arsenal 2-1 after Dennis Berg missed a penalty FA Cup semis.
Scored 2 late goals to win the UCL.

Arsene could very well have done that double.

But that team was miles ahead of a City team that has 84 by Match day 32.
How can an Arsenal that went out in the 2nd qualifying round of the ucl win treble?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 12:11am On Apr 08, 2018
elrony:
Uncle, you wan confuse me more sef.

Helep me with wetin I askings you na!

Which one you dey do like APC people sef! angry
My pastor wetin be the question nah? Abi you sef don deviate to the Mami water side ni?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 12:11am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:
Or you made none by a very wide margin?
Nah, you're just trying to create an argument in your sub.

I was on to my Uncle's opinion that Pep has dominated the PL.
Never downplaying his achievement but emphasis on "dominate" which for now is far fetched!

For all it's worth, he's no different from Ranieri & Conte of previous seasons.

Heck, I might even call this league title a fluke when City wins it and still be correct in the premise of "awaiting a repeat of another title win"

Case in point , Leicester City! grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 12:12am On Apr 08, 2018
joeace2020:
So finally we have the newly invented device for Player valuation. Throw in the name of any player from an era and it will calculate. Please Eruditor how much will cryuff cost now, pele, gerd muller...how much will they cost now?
You are trying hard not to get the point.

Denilson the dribbler was once most expensive player ever at £21M. The coach that bought him then cannot say I spent way less than Unai Emery. Got it?

Because £21M then did what £200M did this season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 12:14am On Apr 08, 2018
chic2pimp:
My pastor wetin be the question nah? Abi you sef don deviate to the Mami water side ni?
LMAOOOgrin grin grin

When I fess quote you na
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