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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 3:45pm On Apr 08, 2018
CapitalCee:
He has been trying to wriggle himself out of trouble. The pummelling he has been receiving recently together with PEP is the reason. Same pep that could not replicate what his predecessor did despite spending 528m pounds in 18 months.
Leave the guy to be turning whatever it is that he turns.

At this rate, amala no go gree am turn again. Maybe it is lafun.

By the special grace of our creator Liverpool will complete that which they started on Tuesday. Maybe he will start roaming the streets by then.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 3:47pm On Apr 08, 2018
elrony:
Them ask you another thing you dey type another..

Lmao cheesygrin grin grin

Na so the bad belle dey purge you reach?
Pointless senseless hate will drive you to say nonsense.

Stick to the matter at heart: how is Pep's spending equal to Fergie?

Na so we begin dey see NPFL team of the season.

Issokay.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:48pm On Apr 08, 2018
CapitalCee:
He has been trying to wriggle himself out of trouble. The pummelling he has been receiving recently together with PEP is the reason. Same pep that could not replicate what his predecessor did despite spending [b]528m pounds [/b]in 18 months.
Give Diggz that money and he will hand you the FIFA Club World Cup
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 3:48pm On Apr 08, 2018
@afrodoc2,

Please come and respond to the graphic of team of the season and how it concerns the topic at heart.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m):
raumdeuter:
Guardiola lost 2 games in quick succession, Mourinho cannot lose in the CL again because he has been kncoked out by the 7th best team in Spain

The league Mourinho is trailing by double digits
He lost to the seventh team in Spain but rallied his team from 2 goals down away to fraudiola to trash him. Throwing your fan base into mourning.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilstjnr: 3:49pm On Apr 08, 2018
Ibime:
There is a difference between having experience of that era and reading about it later.

Your twisted perspective comes from viewing Cantona transfer through the lens of todays desperation where a desperate club might pay £200m for Neymar (which makes £50m for Kyle Walker look relatively cheap) . . . and lead you to compare Cantona transfer to Kyle Walker.

You are even comparing worldwide to equate Cantona to Walker which is nonsense. In 1992 Lentini, Vialli and Papin were sogned for upwards of 10m in Serie A. Intermilan also bought players in that price range. And you are busy comparing 1.8m for Cantona to that. You would have to compute about 30 transfers made in Serie A first before you start to think of British transfers. So no, Cantona was no Kyle Walker. He was more like Mario Lemina. That should give you some perspective first and foremost.

Then if you need better perspective, consider within Britain that Chelsea paid 3m for Robert Fleck, Arsenal paid the same 3m for Martin Keown, Leeds 3m for Rocastle, Man City 3m for Terry Phelan, Villa 3m for Dean Saunders, Blackburn 2m for Stuart Ripley, even 2m for phucking Kevin Gallacher. . . . you will see that you have goofed strongly comparing Cantona transfer to Kyle Walker. That was a peanut sum for that level of player and was a giveaway from Leeds who wanted Cantona off their books due to his attitude.

There is difference between real life experience and Wikipedia extrapolations and assumptions. Don't goof like the erudite trying to do Mathematics ontop football. Those who were around that era know where to place Cantona, it was a middling signing for peanuts and cannot make the top 30 worldwide signings of that year.

All you need to know about Roy Keane transfer fee of £3.75m is that Daniel Amokachi moved for not too dissimilar amount 12 months later. British transfer market has always been a conservative one where transfer prices move up by a couple of grand each year in the early 1990s. Roy Keane fee will not enter top 50 worldwide transfers to that date and was not dissimilar to what other EPL clubs were paying at the time.
Oga you are the one that is goofing and doing stronghead. As at 1991 English football was on par with Eridivisie today

Infact as at 1991, English clubs had just been allowed back into UCL after being banned for 6 good years from Europe.

Italian football was the EPL of the time. That's what people watched locally and in Europe. In fact, Sky just did a documentary last week about how the Italian football shows of the early to mid 90s were the first TV shows to broadcast football to many people in the UK

A lot of English people IN England watched Juventus and A.C.Milan on TV before they ever got to watch an English league match.

So of course, Italian transfers were more expensive. They had the TV money!

Flip it today, and show me Italian clubs outside Juve and Milan making transfers in the same market as ordinary West Ham today.

So that excuse has fallen flat on it's face.

say you too old, I give you 36 years on this earth, and given the TV restrictions of the time and and lack of internet, Thunder will fire you if you try to claim you followed EPL goings ons in 1991/1992. grin

Na the same internet resources we dey use nigga, so no dey try form historian on publicly available knowledge.


EPL was a new and poor league in 1991/1992 and Fergusom was immediately one of its biggest spenders.

Cantona deal was the 10th biggest deal then, and Roy Keane was a British Transfer record ffs. Nobody in England had ever spent that much on a footballer, not even the queen.

Guy hold this L for me abeg. I dey come sharp sharp.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:50pm On Apr 08, 2018
BushWickBill:
Pointless senseless hate will drive you to say nonsense.

Stick to the matter at heart: how is Pep's spending equal to Fergie?

Na so we begin dey see NPFL team of the season.

Issokay.
Lmao cheesygrin grin grin

Na here we dey... plenty things we shall see
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:50pm On Apr 08, 2018
elrony:
Give Diggz that money and he will hand you the FIFA Club World Cup
Diggz will add world cup to it
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:50pm On Apr 08, 2018
BushWickBill:
@afrodoc2,

Please come and respond to the graphic of team of the season and how it concerns the topic at heart.
It had no relevance, so i have ignored it as mere trolling.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 3:51pm On Apr 08, 2018
Meanwhile grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Cruxifizio: 3:51pm On Apr 08, 2018
A product of you scvmcvnts just missed an empty net.....

Welbeck!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Cruxifizio: 3:53pm On Apr 08, 2018
elrony:
Give Diggz that money and he will hand you the FIFA Club World Cup
CapitalCee:
Diggz will add world cup to it
I will just buy the entire eko Atlantic to start with..... cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 3:53pm On Apr 08, 2018
afrodoc2:
It had no relevance, so i have ignored it as mere trolling.
Ok sah.

Wisely done.

We need to be able to sift the necessary from the chaff in some of these arguments. The Pep choirboys are really flooding these pages with a lot of flotsam.

Opaks jus full everywhere.

Very soon we will begin to see 1970 World Cup team of the season in relation to what links Pep and Fergie in terms of spending.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:54pm On Apr 08, 2018
Leyqute:
Baba is still in the wiLLLderness grin
Bwahahahagrin grin grin grin

NihiLLLLLLListjnr

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 3:54pm On Apr 08, 2018
Nihilstjnr:
Why do you need to top spending chart when you already have the best team in the league?

All you have to do is keep adding a new superstar every year .

By that 2001 that You're talking about, Ferguson had already broken the British transfer record at least twice, and I think maybe even the world record for a defender sef...and that's before Rio Ferdinand.

Na Ferguson dey set transfer record those days. N.a. him go still come break the record, on top of already having the best team on the island.

PDP was the original PEP.
This is not true.
Ferguson didn't even start his career at United, and while at Aberdeen, Fergie's total spend and netspend is not up to that of Pep after adjustment for inflation, during Pep's years at Barca, where he started his first major coaching stint.

Fergie has thrived in cashless system and in bountiful system. Do you know even Fergie bought one of his players at Aberdeen with his own cash? That's to tell you the magic Fergie performed even without so much cash.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:55pm On Apr 08, 2018
Cruxifizio:
A product of you scvmcvnts just missed an empty net.....

Welbeck!!
He wasn't a product when he scored a screamer for the second goal abi?

Daddy Ibeji, is your eyes pains you? tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 3:55pm On Apr 08, 2018
Cruxifizio:
A product of you scvmcvnts just missed an empty net.....

Welbeck!!
We have since disowned Nii Tackey Mensah.

How he graduated from Carrington into United's first team is a mystery at par with how Pep cannot take an expensively assembled side past the quarter finals of the Champions League for the second straight year.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ibime(m): 3:57pm On Apr 08, 2018
afrodoc2:
Nihilist does not know what he is on about here. About 20 players in serie A cost more than Cantona that season, about 9 players in EPL cost more.
Actually Cantona's transfer was the 38th biggest transfer of that season worldwide, the 38th biggest transfer of this season is Andre Gray to Watford. LOL
And Andre Grey moved for exactly the same price (£18m) as Mario Lemina so my mathematical extrapolation was 100% correct when I said the below:

Ibime:
So no, Cantona was no Kyle Walker. He was more like Mario Lemina. That should give you some perspective first and foremost.
Nihilist, hold this L grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:57pm On Apr 08, 2018
Cruxifizio:
I will just buy the entire eko Atlantic to start with..... cheesy cheesy
After you win world cup na cheesy..

Sha gimme space for church HQ cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilstjnr: 3:57pm On Apr 08, 2018
sinizia:
This is not true.
Ferguson didn't even start his career at United, and while at Aberdeen, Fergie's total spend and netspend is not up to that of Pep after adjustment for inflation, during Pep's years at Barca, where he started his first major coaching stint.

Fergie has thrived in cashless system and in bountiful system. Do you know even Fergie bought one of his players at Aberdeen with his own cash? That's to tell you the magic Fergie performed even without so much cash.
Guy how can someone break British and World record multiple times despite already having the best team in the league, and you say he didn't spend?

Cashless system? what's that? You mean PDP was shopping with a credit card?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:58pm On Apr 08, 2018
Nobody has come up with the season Ferguson spent more than other EPL teams in the 90s. From 1992 to 2001 almost a decade can some one list the years Ferguson dominated the transfer market? We have 2 years out of 2 for Pep.

The story has changed from "Ferguson outspent other teams most of those seasons to win all those titles" to "no he already had the best team so he didn't have to outspend everybody.

You can't have it both ways, it is either he outspent everybody to win the titles or he built great teams so he didn't have to outspend everybody.

Choose one side, in the immortal words of Skimpledawg, "YOU CAN'T EAT YOU L AND HAVE IT".
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:59pm On Apr 08, 2018
cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilstjnr: 3:59pm On Apr 08, 2018
Ibime:
And Andre Grey moved for exactly the same price (£18m) as Mario Lemina so my mathematical extrapolation was 100% correct when I said the below:



Nihilist, hold this L grin grin
Nahhh na you get the L bro. Hold am make I reach bus stop sharp sharp.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:59pm On Apr 08, 2018
Ibime:
And Andre Grey moved for exactly the same price (£18m) as Mario Lemina so my mathematical extrapolation was 100% correct when I said the below:



Nihilist, hold this L grin grin
You meant Nihi- LLLLLLL -ist, he has affinity for L's

E dey him name cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Cruxifizio: 3:59pm On Apr 08, 2018
BushWickBill:
We have since disowned Nii Tackey Mensah.

How he graduated from Carrington into United's first team is a mystery at par with how Pep cannot take an expensively assembled side past the quarter finals of the Champions League for the second straight year.
He just scored the third one for arsene...

elrony:
He wasn't a product when he scored a screamer for the second goal abi?

Daddy Ibeji, is your eyes pains you? tongue
I came to look for trouble ojare...but the yeye boy don score again sef...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 4:00pm On Apr 08, 2018
afrodoc2:
Nobody has come up with the season Ferguson spent more than other EPL teams in the 90s. From 1992 to 2001 almost a decade can some one list the years Ferguson dominated the transfer market? We have 2 years out of 2 for Pep.

The story has changed from "Ferguson outspent other teams most of those seasons to win all those titles" to "no he already had the best team so he didn't have to outspend everybody.

You can't have it both ways, it is either he outspent everybody to win the titles or he built great teams so he didn't have to outspend everybody.

Choose one side, in the immortal words of Skimpledawg, "YOU CAN'T EAT YOU L AND HAVE IT".
You know we have several people auditioning for the Loki shape Shifter role.

All na just to shift narrative to sustain dead point.

And the sad thing is they think they are making sense.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 4:01pm On Apr 08, 2018
Cruxifizio:
He just scored the third one for arsene...



I came to look for trouble ojare...but the yeye boy don score again sef...
Shey Oasis007 tell you make you calm down since, ehn? cheesy grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 4:02pm On Apr 08, 2018
Nihilstjnr:
Guy how can someone break British and World record multiple times despite already having the best team in the league, and you say he didn't spend?

Cashless system? what's that? You mean PDP was shopping with a credit card?
How many British and World record did he break at Aberdeen?

By cashless I mean Aberdeen wasn't rich or gave Fergie money to outspend his rivals before he destroyed the Celtic-Rangers hegemony.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by neezar: 4:02pm On Apr 08, 2018
Umu Obiligbo

Now playing wink wink cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilstjnr: 4:03pm On Apr 08, 2018
afrodoc2:
Nobody has come up with the season Ferguson spent more than other EPL teams in the 90s. From 1992 to 2001 almost a decade can some one list the years Ferguson dominated the transfer market? We have 2 years out of 2 for Pep.

The story has changed from "Ferguson outspent other teams most of those seasons to win all those titles" to "no he already had the best team so he didn't have to outspend everybody.

You can't have it both ways, it is either he outspent everybody to win the titles or he built great teams so he didn't have to outspend everybody.

Choose one side, in the immortal words of Skimpledawg, "YOU CAN'T EAT YOU L AND HAVE IT".
my own argument was that.

1. He already had the best team

And

2. On top of that continued to break Club, British and World Record especially in the 90s.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Features/2016/Aug/manchester-united-record-signings-in-premier-league-era.aspx


Of the 8 times Ferguson broke the spending record on that list above, 7 of those signings were made between 93 and 2002.

PDP = PEP easily.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 4:04pm On Apr 08, 2018
afrodoc2:
Nobody has come up with the season Ferguson spent more than other EPL teams in the 90s. From 1992 to 2001 almost a decade can some one list the years Ferguson dominated the transfer market? We have 2 years out of 2 for Pep.

The story has changed from "Ferguson outspent other teams most of those seasons to win all those titles" to "no he already had the best team so he didn't have to outspend everybody.

You can't have it both ways, it is either he outspent everybody to win the titles or he built great teams so he didn't have to outspend everybody.

Choose one side, in the immortal words of Skimpledawg, "YOU CAN'T EAT YOU L AND HAVE IT".
Nihi- L -ist ate his L and is still having it.

E still dey him name.. check well

cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilstjnr: 4:04pm On Apr 08, 2018
sinizia:
How many British and World record did he break at Aberdeen?

By cashless I mean Aberdeen wasn't rich or gave Fergie money to outspend his rivals before he destroyed the Celtic-Rangers hegemony.
Guy wetin concern me with Aberdeen na? grin grin grin
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