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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 1:13pm On Apr 11, 2018
MitrikDenholm:
LMAO. The pistons second highest scorer was a bench player with 16, the bulls? Pippen with 20+ plus 10 assists and 9 rebounds. Ofcourse this kakpipe cosmonaut will give his bald crush all the credit.
Pippen's numbers were 5 assists and 7 rebounds. Oniro oshi! You must lie for a living

MitrikDenholm:
He doesn't have to. He just needs to guard the best or the people debald dejordan won't.
The GOAT was an accomplished defender winning more accolades than Pippen did. FYI in that Portland series the GOAT was more effective at guarding Clyde than Pippen was

MitrikDenholm:
Just wondering how a name I almost exclusively use when referring to ugly which has never been mentioned on this this thread or even forum until I did ends up on your tongue. But it's good, I'm very proud that I'm teaching you something little small fry. I am like the Dad you never had.
Lmaooo your stewpidity is relentless Quasimodo. It was a telepathic thing and clearly I nailed your appearance to a T. Hence your shock

MitrikDenholm:
Lol, if I'm an intellectual midget and I've been handing your arse to you on a consistent basis on every debate, what does that make you little small fry. Are you not ashamed? And insecurity? If anything the only thing I've ever been called is a narcissist small fry, I'm not feeble minded like you, ape!
Hehehe you must be concussed from all the blunt force trauma I've been dishing on your dome. You have taken more L's than the Cleveland Browns on every single argument on this thread.

The insecure little imp. Who was phoolish enough to call you narcissistic? You're more like a masochist suffering from Stockholm's syndrome

MitrikDenholm:
Wouldn't count your sister as one either. cheesy
Airball. Don't have one

Your left hand is not a peng ting.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:25pm On Apr 11, 2018
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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:35pm On Apr 11, 2018
A40:
Pippen's numbers were 5 assists and 7 rebounds. Oniro oshi! You must lie for a living
Pippen had 24 10 and 9 for game 1 you rotten piece of donkey sh it. I don't like, I only spit facts. But this mo Ron will come here and give Jordan all the credit.

The GOAT was an accomplished defender winning more accolades than Pippen did. FYI in that Portland series the GOAT was more effective at guarding Clyde than Pippen was
LOL. Regular season accolades but in finals the defense was Scottys job. He is one of the most versatile defenders of all time, he could guard 4 or even 5 positions. Don't disrespect him to appease that bald bum you friggin lizard.


Lmaooo your stewpidity is relentless Quasimodo. It was a telepathic thing and clearly I nailed your appearance to a T. Hence your shock
Stop plagiarizing you shameless ignoramus.

Hehehe you must be concussed from all the blunt force trauma I've been dishing on your dome. You have taken more L's than the Cleveland Browns on every single argument on this thread.
LMAO what an idiot. You haven't even made one reasonable statement since we started this and you think you've dished anything? Lmao. You're losing your damn mind.

The insecure little imp. Who was phoolish enough to call you narcissistic? You're more like a masochist suffering from Stockholm's syndrome
I don't see the word narcissist as a compliment, in fact I've been working very hard to better myself. Only a clueless ape will think it is.

Airball. Don't have one

Your left hand is not a peng ting.
Ooh come on, everyone knows you're lying dunderhead.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m):
MitrikDenholm:
LMAO! Dementia is real people. This knucklehead forgot he also mentioned Washington Jordan and called him a ninja, the inefficient pathetic ball hog. You're fat and you're effortlessly funny, you should consider stand up.
How many 38 year olds were shooting at 42% and averaging 5 assists a game. 38 year old Jordan was better than 85% of the league

You're obtuse and malnourished. I have not come across such a mentally challenged cretin like you before

MitrikDenholm:
How does playing 38 a game take away from the fact that he lost a step? How many minutes was that bald miserable Brick machine playing when he played for the wizards? Does that mean he's the same player he used to be? dunce! cheesy
Are you seriously comparing a 30 year old to a 38 year old? You must be a pathetic sodomite! Comparing a player one year removed from Finals MVP to a 38 year old that took a 3 year hiatus? Who did your ancestors offend? How whack could your gene pool be for you to have come out this stewpid. You lost the genetic lottery and have been losing ever since

MitrikDenholm:
No one cares what they were called yet you took exception to what I called them. Dementia at work again. I knew you were a shameless old man but I didn't know you were this old. Listen here you feeble minded weasel, the big 3 Celtics with or without Garnett were formidable and the fact that the magic beat them says a lot about them which is the point of This argument. I've had it with your dry jokes and cringy old people rhetorics.
STFU! They were not the same team. The least I would expect anybody with even elementary intelligence to do was to indicate they were missing a key piece and not loosely and phoolishly drop the Big 3 Celtics. Klutz!

If you could shamelessly use Isiah Thomas who played 38mins as an excuse for the Bulls beating the Pistons then it is dishonest of you to claim a big 3 Celtics were the same team you hypocritical piece of shyte

MitrikDenholm:
Yeah when their best player lost a step, had health issues and retired soon after, their best players got traded later on it's mental weakness that killed them in this stupid deluded old fools head.
They were swept!! Came back the next year and were not even good enough to endure another L from the GOAT. They were weak. Facts Only you pathological oniro

MitrikDenholm:
There's a difference, one is late 20s and the other early thirties, the fact that you intentionally omitted that says a lot about the shameless liar that you are and only proves you've been lying through out your existence on this forum.
Early 30's? He turned 30 in April. 1 phuckin month! What a dangbana. Your brain is a cassava sieve incapable of retaining any form of intelligence

You're the only liar here

MitrikDenholm:
He played 48 games the season he lost to Jordan you ignorant ape! grin
But didn't miss a single playoff game

MitrikDenholm:
I said they never made the ecf after and couldn't even make the playoffs the next season. Read that however you want but however the sequence of events transpired it just fits my narrative that they weren't the same team you stupid idiot.
Shut up you shameless liar!! Who didn't know the Pistons never made the ECF after the GOAT obliterated them?


MitrikDenholm:
Stop trying to claim it wasn't. That was their last ECF appearance btw dum dum.
They didn't even make the playoffs the next year.
You've told so many lies your binary peabrain cannot keep up


MitrikDenholm:
And was worthy injured before the finals or not? Was worthy injured again during the finals or not? Did worthy play all the finals games? Does that count as him playing the finals? Just imagine the level of stupidity that exists in this idiots brain. cheesy
He was injured yet averaged almost 41mins per game in all 3 rounds leading to the finals and never missed a game.

You're a disgusting swine without honor a code or scruples.

Worthy missed just Game 5. When the series was done and dusted with the Bulls 3-1 up yet this shameless gibbon phoolishly claimed Worthy did not play?

A player recorded 80% appearance and you say he did not play. Warapa grip you there you lying mofo!

MitrikDenholm:
Naah. Their legacy was that in their prime they destroyed the bald fraud consistently and only lost to him when time took its toll. Whenever you hear people talking about bald bum getting his as s whooped you hear about the bad boys. cheesy
The GOAT effectively ended a back to back Championship team that was pushing to be a dynasty. When people are talking about dynasties they would mention the Showtime Lakers Kobe and Shaq, The Spurs, the double 3peat Bulls. No one is ever going to mention the Pistons for one reason. The GOAT!!
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 2:19pm On Apr 11, 2018
MitrikDenholm:
Pippen had 24 10 and 9 for game 1 you rotten piece of donkey sh it. I don't like, I only spit facts. But this mo Ron will come here and give Jordan all the credit.
Shut up!! Does an NBA series last for just one game. Anuofia!

Same facts that made you declare James Worthy didn't play the Finals. I'm surprised you don't crawl on your belly. Lying serpent.

MitrikDenholm:
LOL. Regular season accolades but in finals the defense was Scottys job. He is one of the most versatile defenders of all time, he could guard 4 or even 5 positions. Don't disrespect him to appease that bald bum you friggin lizard.
Shut up! For the Portland series the GOAT took on Drexler. Don't tell me about Pippen Captain Obvious

MitrikDenholm:
Stop plagiarizing you shameless ignoramus.
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You're not related to Victor Hugo last I checked peasant

MitrikDenholm:
LMAO what an idiot. You haven't even made one reasonable statement since we started this and you think you've dished anything? Lmao. You're losing your damn mind.
Yet you keep responding in record time. When I say you're mentally disturbed I don't say it out of spite. It's a professional opinion

MitrikDenholm:
I don't see the word narcissist as a compliment, in fact I've been working very hard to better myself. Only a clueless ape will think it is.
It's a misnomer you obtuse dingbat! You've been wrongly diagnosed and this is why your condition keeps degenerating

MitrikDenholm:
Ooh come on, everyone knows you're lying dunderhead.
Exhibit Z
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 2:20pm On Apr 11, 2018
Denver x Minnesota would be epic for the Season Finale! This is literally a Game 7
Re: The NBA Begins by tips234: 3:17pm On Apr 11, 2018
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Don't miss out.

Thank me later.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 3:33pm On Apr 11, 2018
A40:
Shut up!! Does an NBA series last for just one game. Anuofia!

Same facts that made you declare James Worthy didn't play the Finals. I'm surprised you don't crawl on your belly. Lying serpent.
LOL I am legit starting to think this frog has brain damage, you brought up game 1 you stupid ninny! cheesy


Shut up! For the Portland series the GOAT took on Drexler. Don't tell me about Pippen Captain Obvious
LOL! Jordan took on drexler with pippen on his side, for shame. what a bully. If jordan didnt have a hall of famer by his side itd be a fair fight.
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Yet you keep responding in record time. When I say you're mentally disturbed I don't say it out of spite. It's a professional opinion
i Respond in record time because its easy to respond to a bumbling idiot like you. Light work small fry.

It's a misnomer you obtuse dingbat! You've been wrongly diagnosed and this is why your condition keeps degenerating


Exhibit Z
LMAO! But small fry your diagnosis is clear as day, if only there was a cure for stupidity.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody:
A40:
How many 38 year olds were shooting at 42% and averaging 5 assists a game. 38 year old Jordan was better than 85% of the league

You're obtuse and malnourished. I have not come across such a mentally challenged cretin like you before
Ohh you friggin oaf, you claimed the man leading the league in shot attempts was a ninja. LMAO, hard to see with cum covering your eyeballs. That version of jordan was pathetic and anyone who brings him up to give him credit is an utter numskull, i think we've already established that you are so no surprise.


Are you seriously comparing a 30 year old to a 38 year old? You must be a pathetic sodomite! Comparing a player one year removed from Finals MVP to a 38 year old that took a 3 year hiatus? Who did your ancestors offend? How whack could your gene pool be for you to have come out this stewpid. You lost the genetic lottery and have been losing ever since
LOL The ape talking about genes again. cheesy

Thats the point you stupid dog, the minutes you play does not reflect on the quality you possess. Why wont this stupid ape understand a concept as simple as this one.


STFU! They were not the same team. The least I would expect anybody with even elementary intelligence to do was to indicate they were missing a key piece and not loosely and phoolishly drop the Big 3 Celtics. Klutz!
LMAO! keep dodging the point of the argument, if only you could dodge jeffreys semen the same way. The orlando magic were formidable, plan and simple.Debate jeffreys anus from here on you friggin poo pusher.

If you could shamelessly use Isiah Thomas who played 38mins as an excuse for the Bulls beating the Pistons then it is dishonest of you to claim a big 3 Celtics were the same team you hypocritical piece of shyte
I called them big 3 celtics, i would assume anyone who knows the NBA should know what it implies. I guess my mistake was assuming you knew anything about the NBA and apparently you dont know sh it. All you do is pull re tarded hay makers out of your filthy ape bum and throw it about like a true ape would.


They were swept!! Came back the next year and were not even good enough to endure another L from the GOAT. [b]They were weak. [/b]Facts Only you pathological oniro
Isnt this what i've been saying you confused dumb a'ss!

Early 30's? He turned 30 in April. 1 phuckin month! What a dangbana. Your brain is a cassava sieve incapable of retaining any form of intelligence
LOL! What is this ape saying? please, was isaiah thomas 29 or 30 when he faced the bulls? did you lie about it because you're a dimwitted weasel? positive. Then FOH with your stupid 5 cent excuses.

You're the only liar here
How many lies have you been caught in already? i'm sorry i've lost count Pinocchio.


But didn't miss a single playoff game
LMAO You said he missed only two games and now you're back tracking. You truly are a jester. Pinhead, my argument has always been his injury was the beginning of his decline.


Shut up you shameless liar!! Who didn't know the Pistons never made the ECF after the GOAT obliterated them?
Apparently you didnt. cheesy




You've told so many lies your binary peabrain cannot keep up
havent told a single lie, this dummy has been caught in a dozen and hes accusing me of lying. Your misdirection wont work nitwit.


He was injured yet averaged almost 41mins per game in all 3 rounds leading to the finals and never missed a game.
again this idiot equating minutes with quality. You are hopeless.


You're a disgusting swine without honor a code or scruples.

Worthy missed just Game 5. When the series was done and dusted with the Bulls 3-1 up yet this shameless gibbon phoolishly claimed Worthy did not play?
Worthy suffered a high ankle sprain in Game 5 of the Western Conference Finals against the Blazers and was very limited heading into the Finals against the Bulls. Despite LA pulling out a Game 1 victory in Chicago, it ultimately wasn't enough against a hot Chicago Bulls squad led by Michael Jordan. The Lakers fell in five games. Worthy sat out Game 5 after re-injuring the ankle in Game 4.

Just so everyone can see how much of a shameless lying sack of sh it you are.


A player recorded 80% appearance and you say he did not play. Warapa grip you there you lying mofo!
4 (3.5) out of a possible 7 is 80% in your village? who said it will have ended the same way if he appeared fully healthy in all four priori and apriori? again this mo ron keeps shamelessly accusing me of lying while i keep exposing him cheesy

The GOAT effectively ended a back to back Championship team that was pushing to be a dynasty. When people are talking about dynasties they would mention the Showtime Lakers Kobe and Shaq, The Spurs, the double 3peat Bulls. No one is ever going to mention the Pistons for one reason. The GOAT!!
Because they werent flat track bullies who dominated a watered down extension league? you mentioned bulls, not jordan dynasty you bonehead. Your tiny brain lives to entertain.
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 4:41pm On Apr 11, 2018
Eruditor:
It is clear. 103-58 now. The small ball line up we used to abuse them last year and PnRs not being used. I think Kerr is avoiding them or OKC in the first round. Either that or he is hiding his hands.

Or perhaps he wants them to lose badly to be motivated in the playoffs.
If Warriors like; get Michael Jordan and the Dream Team, they'll still lose to Jazz yesterday. Like say Kerr never lose 30+ points to Lakers sef

All these excuses na wash...
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 4:45pm On Apr 11, 2018
Roland17:
Donovan Mitchell is making a logical case for the rookie of the year award with his hoodie. He is the clear definition of a rookie and that is the fact.


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If that's his argument and not his stats or his team's standings or best record since January, then Ben Simmons is winning it...
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 4:53pm On Apr 11, 2018
Decale:
If Warriors like; get Michael Jordan and the Dream Team, they'll still lose to Jazz yesterday. Like say Kerr never lose 30+ points to Lakers sef

All these excuses na wash...
We also lost to them last season just before the playoffs.

When Curry is out, we use D to win. But what I saw yesterday was a bunch of players not interested in playing or getting hurt.

Whether Jazz would have beat us if we wanted it, nobody knows. It is clear we tanked that game.

As per Kerr, still a great coach. I would judge him only after the Playoffs. Some "geniuses" who beat Raptors without starters lost to the same Raptors (by 20+ points) earlier on with the starters. Basket ball dey like that.
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 5:00pm On Apr 11, 2018
Eruditor:
We also lost to them last season just before the playoffs.

When Curry is out, we use D to win. But what I saw yesterday was a bunch of players not interested in playing or getting hurt.

Whether Jazz would have beat us if we wanted it, nobody knows. It is clear we tanked that game.

As per Kerr, still a great coach. I would judge him only after the Playoffs. Some "geniuses" who beat Raptors without starters lost to the same Raptors (by 20+ points) earlier on with the starters. Basket ball dey like that.
I understand your point but you guys had a formidable team against Pacers and still yet...

I hope you guys get Pelicans, to prepare for Curry's return

If not, any bet on a Warriors team will continue to be avoided angry
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 5:03pm On Apr 11, 2018
Decale:
I understand your point but you guys had a formidable team against Pacers and still yet...

I hope you guys get Pelicans, to prepare for Curry's return

If not, any bet on a Warriors team will continue to be avoided angry
I would be the first to admit we have been rubbish.

I wanted to avoid Jazz and OKC for now.

I can manage Spurs without Kawhi or Nuggets with lack of experience.
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 6:20pm On Apr 11, 2018
If Brodie doesn't get 25 rebounds today just to be safe grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:30pm On Apr 11, 2018
Just in case we need to break James Hardens legs in the finals.

Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 6:30pm On Apr 11, 2018
Decale:
If that's his argument and not his stats or his team's standings or best record since January, then Ben Simmons is winning it...
Baba, you are deviating from the onus of Donovan's argument here. This has nothing to do with stats but the legitimacy of the contestants based on the definition of the word "Rookie".
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 7:04pm On Apr 11, 2018
Season has basically ended and i'm hearing Bron should be MVP cos he's almost averaging TD in his 15th yr, Russ should also be MVP cos he'll average another triple double which has never been done before. I'm like these stats guys and blog boys done start again.

Shannon Sharpe came out today to strongly say Russ is a non repentant stat-padder though the same guy said Lebron doesn't hunt stats. Typical LeMinion double standard in action. Melo, also said it clearly in an interview today that Russ steals rebounds and sometimes they let him get it so he can lead the fast break. Lol.. When Russ was asked about stat padding, he said if you don't want the rebounds, i'll take it.
(Like guy!! we see you fighting your teammates for it). I imagine Lebron making this comments. We would rip him for it but Russ does it, it's automatic MVP and is one his way to average another TD. If he does average another TD, they must give him that MVP ooo or Lebron since those two have something in common..

Since it's a stats driven league now, if Westbrook averages a triple double this season, they better give him the MVP. Cos we've been glorifying stat padders all along.


In case the media and other divert the narrative and give the wrong person this MVP thing, (We know who the real MVP was last season and this season only further exposed the stat chasers).
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 7:11pm On Apr 11, 2018
SmooshCHN:
Season has basically ended and i'm hearing Bron should be MVP cos he's almost averaging TD in his 15th yr, Russ should also be MVP cos he'll average another triple double which has never been done before. I'm like these stats guys and blog boys done start again.

Shannon Sharpe came out today to strongly say Russ is a non repentant stat-padder though the same guy said Lebron doesn't hunt stats. Typical LeMinion double standard in action. Melo, also said it clearly in an interview today that Russ steals rebounds and sometimes they let him get it so he can lead the fast break. Lol.. When Russ was asked about stat padding, he said if you don't want the rebounds, i'll take it.
(Like guy!! we see you fighting your teammates for it). I imagine Lebron making this comments. We would rip him for it but Russ does it, it's automatic MVP and is one his way to average another TD. If he does average another TD, they must give him that MVP ooo or Lebron since those two have something in common..

Since it's a stats driven league now, if Westbrook averages a triple double this season, they better give him the MVP. Cos we've been glorifying stat padders all along.


In case the media and other divert the narrative and give the wrong person this MVP thing, (We know who the real MVP was last season and this season only further exposed the stat chasers).
I told you we will steal that MVP award. You just wait and see.
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 9:07pm On Apr 11, 2018
Roland17:
Baba, you are deviating from the onus of Donovan's argument here. This has nothing to do with stats but the legitimacy of the contestants based on the definition of the word "Rookie".
An athlete playing his FIRST SEASON as a member of a professional sports team


English can be reconstructed anyhow...


What is Ben Simmons' first season as an NBA player? Which season did he first play? Is this his second season?

Which season does NBA recognise Simmons' professional career? It's clearly on their official site: ROOKIE


If Mitchell had a fractured foot in his draft year and put up his stats the following season, he won't be wearing shade outfits. Flip these players and we'll still get the same reaction.


Like I said if Mitchell wants to argue his ROY case with a definition the whole NBA organization and more don't agree on, he's not helping his case. At all, at all...
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 9:27pm On Apr 11, 2018
SmooshCHN:
In case the media and other divert the narrative and give the wrong person this MVP thing, (We know who the real MVP was last season and this season only further exposed the stat chasers).
The real MVP last season was Kawhi, no be this Harden you people won't let us rest. He's both offensive and defensive top 5 and got his team (60+ wins) with farmers and pensioners to NBA finals . 3 of them deserve it and I was glad Westbrook did get it


Westbrook's triple double season is clearly different from this season. This season, he had all the help he ever wanted and a rejuvenated Steve Adams. Their ceiling should be 60 wins at the least.

Harden on the other hand got his help, reached his ceiling (65+) and he's playing the best ball in his career. He's the most lethal guy in ISO and most offensive. Even his historic games have been triple doubles, so let's act as we don't see it.


If anybody is using LeBron's triple double as a point, it's because he's the only one close to Harden for the chase. So, there's bound to be some reasons to help push his case. Sadly, his team won't give him the award.

AD is in the 3rd position cos he's doing something similar to what Westbrook did last season but his standings can't help him especially if he doesn't have a record to his name.

Curry shoulda been the guy that would chase Harden for the MVP but we know how that turned out...


The whole MVP discussion will be different if Westbrook had 60+ wins and the triple double, Curry and Kawhi were healthy and Cavs were 1st in the east.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 9:30pm On Apr 11, 2018
Decale:
An athlete playing his FIRST SEASON as a member of a professional sports team


English can be reconstructed anyhow...


What is Ben Simmons' first season as an NBA player? Which season did he first play? Is this his second season?

Which season does NBA recognise Simmons' professional career? It's clearly on their official site: ROOKIE


If Mitchell had a fractured foot in his draft year and put up his stats the following season, he won't be wearing shade outfits. Flip these players and we'll still get the same reaction.


Like I said if Mitchell wants to argue his ROY case with a definition the whole NBA organization and more don't agree on, he's not helping his case. At all, at all...
You see, you guys are making subjective definitions and inferences from the definition of a rookie. So what was Ben Simmons last season? In truth, Ben is a red shirt player and this is why I like the NCAA. They understood there was a clear difference and that is why you have "Red shirt freshmen and True freshmen". The definition and the flexibility of the NBA to accommodate these does not justify the fact that it is illogical.

Was Ben a member of the Sixers last season? Did he sign a rookie contract with a professional team despite being injured? was the organization building its roster around Ben despite the fact that he was injured? When Embiid was talking about "trusting the process", did you think he was speaking about himself alone or he had seen what Ben was bringing?

Ben was exposed to the running of the team, practice, travels, films of opponents, improved his strength and conditioning with a professional team. I don't want to beat this but it is clear the NBA prefers its definition over what a rookie truly is. My argument here is the fact that there is a tangible/ intangible advantage Ben enjoyed last season that has made adapting to the league easier for him.
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 10:57pm On Apr 11, 2018
Roland17:
They understood there was a clear difference and that is why you have "Red shirt freshmen and True freshmen". The definition and the flexibility of the NBA to accommodate these does not justify the fact that it is illogical.

Was Ben a member of the Sixers last season? Did he sign a rookie contract with a professional team despite being injured? was the organization building its roster around Ben despite the fact that he was injured? When Embiid was talking about "trusting the process", did you think he was speaking about himself alone or he had seen what Ben was bringing?

Ben was exposed to the running of the team, practice, travels, films of opponents, improved his strength and conditioning with a professional team. I don't want to beat this but it is clear the NBA prefers its definition over what a rookie truly is. My argument here is the fact that there is a tangible/ intangible advantage Ben enjoyed last season that has made adapting to the league easier for him.
If they do give these college students freshmen of the year awards, I'm sure the redshirt freshmen will be eligible. And isn't that redshirt word coined mostly for extra year playtime for HEALTHY athletes. Even the NCAA try eliminate the medical redshirt (injured students)

Simmons signed a contract, yes. When did he PLAY his first game? Building a team around someone can be done to your "true rookies" e.g. Lonzo. That argument no follow. When Embiid was talking about process, he included Fultz too, a rookie that PLAYED in his first season.

Ben was exposed to this and that. So did other "true rookies" in their tryouts, camps and preseason.

Most of these injured drafted players (at least 90%) never use the tangible advantage you so claim when they get healthy. Why should that advantage be used for Ben Simmons cos he's good? Doesn't that make that advantage you so claim meaningless?


The truth of the matter and fact still remains that:

1) Ben Simmons is a rookie regardless of his draft class. He's playing for the first time. If you like, call am redshirt, he's still a freshman.

2) If Mitchell was in Simmons position, he'd bring heaven and earth down to make his case for ROY.


If Mitchell wants to argue this thing further, he's on a losing turf. No way in hell will the NBA or any organization for that matter not include players especially injured ones with career ending injuries a chance at ROY.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 12:02am On Apr 12, 2018
Decale:
If they do give these college students freshmen of the year awards, I'm sure the redshirt freshmen will be eligible. And isn't that redshirt word coined mostly for extra year playtime for HEALTHY athletes. Even the NCAA try eliminate the medical redshirt (injured students)

Simmons signed a contract, yes. When did he PLAY his first game? Building a team around someone can be done to your "true rookies" e.g. Lonzo. That argument no follow. When Embiid was talking about process, he included Fultz too, a rookie that PLAYED in his first season.

Ben was exposed to this and that. So did other "true rookies" in their tryouts, camps and preseason.

Most of these injured drafted players (at least 90%) never use the tangible advantage you so claim when they get healthy. Why should that advantage be used for Ben Simmons cos he's good? Doesn't that make that advantage you so claim meaningless?


The truth of the matter and fact still remains that:

1) Ben Simmons is a rookie regardless of his draft class. He's playing for the first time. If you like, call am redshirt, he's still a freshman.

2) If Mitchell was in Simmons position, he'd bring heaven and earth down to make his case for ROY.


If Mitchell wants to argue this thing further, he's on a losing turf. No way in hell will the NBA or any organization for that matter not include players especially injured ones with career ending injuries a chance at ROY.
If that is the case, why are experienced foreign players like 30-year-old Milos Teodosic (Clippers) termed "Rookies"? Afterall "An athlete playing his FIRST SEASON as a member of a professional sports team" is the definition of a rookie. Is it logical based on the definition of the term rookies? Teodosic and other experienced foreign players have earned thousands and sometimes millions playing "PROFESSIONAL" basketball. Please don't even try to excuse the NBA in this instance because I am going strictly by the definition of the term rookie which you highlighted.

Again, by next year, Ben Simmons will be eligible for an extension on his current rookie contract, so does that mean the league agrees he is not a rookie but for technicalities should be termed a rookie in his sophomore year? Again, what was Ben Simmons last year? Just to remind you, Fultz was drafted this season not the previous season like Simmons and the Sixers traded up with my Celtics to get him. Consequently, they were not planning any roster around him. Trust the process was with Embiid and progressed after Embiid saw what Ben was doing in practice. As far as I know, establishing the difference between the red shirt and a true freshman was important as it provides clarity for the NCAA.

For me, this is not an argument for or against Mitchell or Ben winning the award. It is the lack of clarity and ambiguity in the definition of a rookie in the NBA and how illogical it is.
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LOL. The bucks trying to avoid us in the first round.



LeBron throwing the towel in the first. It's all good. We'll get them all. I actually want the Pacers more than any other eastern playoff team. cheesy
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 3:31am On Apr 12, 2018
This Nuggets game is doing my chest somehow cheesy
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:11am On Apr 12, 2018
Interesting matchups

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Cavs finish the season with an identical record without Kyrie and with love and IT out a good chunk of the season. We have the best player in the game.

Cavs make history by becoming the first team to go a whole season unbeaten when carrying a third quarter lead (39-0). We have the best closer in the game.

Leads every plausible MVP candidate in all stat categories.

This is a 33 year old man in year 15.

Give this man his MVP Goddammit!

Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 5:22am On Apr 12, 2018
This guy is phenomenal. No lies.

Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 6:02am On Apr 12, 2018
Roland17:
If that is the case, why are experienced foreign players like 30-year-old Milos Teodosic (Clippers) termed "Rookies"? Afterall "An athlete playing his FIRST SEASON as a member of a professional sports team" is the definition of a rookie. Is it logical based on the definition of the term rookies? Teodosic and other experienced foreign players have earned thousands and sometimes millions playing "PROFESSIONAL" basketball. Please don't even try to excuse the NBA in this instance because I am going strictly by the definition of the term rookie which you highlighted
I just remembered Arvydas Sabonis, that guy nearly took ROY from Damon after playing years in Serbian league grin

Okay, I admit the ambiguity seems unfair especially to those foreign players and NBA can do something about it. But I'm not making arguments for Teodosic or the foreign players but for Simmons who hasn't played for any professional sports team, EVER!!!! even if his rookie contract starts 1989.

Ben Simmons fits the same definition as Mitchell, having the same exposure; with Mitchell getting the offensive play built more around him. So, how did Simmons sitting out a year with a career ending injury an advantage for his case? These 2 have *played 82 games* in their professional careers, no one played more.

This table you're shaking has plenty awards on it: Sixth Man (where they sometimes start), MVP (the definition isn't used), DPOY and All NBA team. If NBA listened to Mitchell about ruling out players recovering from injuries, they better listen to us with these other awards they dash out.
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 6:21am On Apr 12, 2018
Man risked it all... grin

Congrats Brodie. That's some feat...

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