Somguy:


The trolls on Somali sites have mostly been African American or Kenyan. I'm not making this up as I used to be very active on somalinet and some other forums many years ago. I never said that they were Nigerian. My point was that we get trolls from other African nationalities as well. We even get Ethiopian trolls.

I'm actually quite shocked that you haven't seen Nigerian/Somali couples in London. I know personally of two and have heard of others in the past. Yes, it's a problem that many Somalis will disown the couple, but I'm seeing progress. It takes time to change certain mentalities.

As for Arabs, then I'm cool with most of them. But certain Arab nationalities have some cultural vices such as wife beating, which is why I would never marry my own sister or daughters off to them unless the guys are exceptionally good. I know of far too many cases of domestic abuse in that community. Not all Arabs do this, but certain nationalities from amongst them are known for this. Same with Asians (of all religions).

Horners usually intermarry with Southern Yemenis who are culturally and genetically very similar to us (many of them are black or mixed). Northern Yemenis are closer to Saudis. Domestic abuse is very frowned upon in our community and the clan will usually take back their daughter if the husband mistreats her.

Oh yes ive known Yemenis to be close with Somalis, and I consider Yeminis to be more a bit more African than arab, they have cultural ties to the horn right?

Yes true, it'll be kenyans or others, but you'll barely find a Nigerian trolling your forums, we barely do that, but these somali trolls on nairaland could cause a wave of that actually happening. It has tempted me before, im being honest, you'd think trolls shouldn't effect how we perceive others, but it can actually work in their favour when they do it constantly.

TheTransformer:
And just because Somali Christians are virtually non-existent in Somalia does not mean they are not in Kenya, USA and UK where there is COMPLETE freedom of religion and in these areas grown up children live in their own apartments (accomodation)...

There are so many people from muslim families that are no longer muslims in USA and UK simply because they do not live with their families anymore... i mean a lot...for example i have a muslim friends that drinks and clubs... he doesn't go to mosque except he goes to his parents house during sallah - he is just a muslim in front of his family members... that is all.

People who drink and party can still be Muslim though. They're misguided but are still Muslim as long as they still believe and do the basics.

I'm aware of atheist/Christian ex-Muslims, but they are still a very small minority.

They might be small in population but if you know where to look, you can find Somali Christians:

http://somalichristians.org/
http://www.somalibiblebelievers.com/

Somguy:


The trolls on Somali sites have mostly been African American or Kenyan. I'm not making this up as I used to be very active on somalinet and some other forums many years ago. I never said that they were Nigerian. My point was that we get trolls from other African nationalities as well. We even get Ethiopian trolls.

I'm actually quite shocked that you haven't seen Nigerian/Somali couples in London. I know personally of two and have heard of others in the past. Yes, it's a problem that many Somalis will disown the couple, but I'm seeing progress. It takes time to change certain mentalities.

Religion is always going to be factor though, let's face it. I really don't see that as a problem and I would personally not get offended if a Christian woman rejected my advances based on my religion. Religion is about more than just colour, culture etc., it's about spirituality. People who share similar convictions are going to find it easier to get along in the long run.

As for Arabs, then I'm cool with most of them. But certain Arab nationalities have some cultural vices such as wife beating, which is why I would never marry my own sister or daughters off to them unless the guys are exceptionally good. I know of far too many cases of domestic abuse in that community. Not all Arabs do this, but certain nationalities from amongst them are known for this. Same with Asians (of all religions).

Horners usually intermarry with Southern Yemenis who are culturally and genetically very similar to us (many of them are black or mixed). Northern Yemenis are closer to Saudis. Domestic abuse is very frowned upon in our community and the clan will usually take back their daughter if the husband mistreats her.

TheTransformer:
They might be small in population but if you know where to look, you can find Somali Christians:

http://somalichristians.org/
http://www.somalibiblebelievers.com/

omg stop embarrassing yourself all you did was googled somali christian, you're so lost

OMG... get a brain and realise that Somali Christains do exist:

http://www.bpnews.net/46096/christmas-ban-no-surprise-somali-christians-say
http://www.lausanneworldpulse.com/perspectives-php/406/08-2006

not everybody has to reason like you.

And all you did was to google somali christians to know the figure "1000" Christians.

Rivertemz:

omg stop embarrassing yourself all you did was googled somali christian, you're so lost

TheTransformer:
OMG... get a brain and realise that Somali Christains do exist:

http://www.bpnews.net/46096/christmas-ban-no-surprise-somali-christians-say
http://www.lausanneworldpulse.com/perspectives-php/406/08-2006

not everybody has to reason like you.

And all you did was to google somali christians to know the figure "1000" Christians.

I've known that for years, because ive discussed that with my Somali friends, do you even know any Somalis in person ??

Rivertemz:

Oh yes ive known Yemenis to be close with Somalis, and I consider Yeminis to be more a bit more African than arab, they have cultural ties to the horn right?

Yes true, it'll be kenyans or others, but you'll barely find a Nigerian trolling your forums, we barely do that, but these somali trolls on nairaland could cause a wave of that actually happening. It has tempted me before, im being honest, you'd think trolls shouldn't effect how we perceive others, but it can actually work in their favour when they do it constantly.

Yemenis (especially in the South) carry our genes. There's also been a lot of cultural exchange over the centuries.

Yeah I know how trolls can negatively effect you. At one point I kept seeing a lot of hate against Somalis from African Americans, Caribbeans and other Africans who didn't even live around Somalis. Then I noticed that there were Somali losers on their websites who were insulting them for no reason.

This whole thing started way back in the day when African Americans started to fetishise East African women. I remember a thread from like 2002 on a UK based Pan-Africanist forum where some African American guy was degrading his own women and praising Ethiopian and Somali women. All hell broke loose as you would imagine.

Insecure Somali trolls started attacking him. African American women and women of West African descent began insulting East African women, EA women got involved. That thread was literally hundreds of pages long. It also spawned numerous similar threads.

The egos of HOA women were naturally inflated. Insecure HOA men began to attack WA men and this crap spilled into every black forum lol.

Add to that the fact that race and DNA forums began to fixate on Horners and many whites began to differentiate between Horners and West African, claiming that the former were mixed and not really "Negro". Again this caused plenty of petty conflicts.

A guy that has openly told me he is no longer a muslim but just has to pretend for his mother and father is still a muslim right?

i asked him does he want to be a Christian, he said he wants to be a "floater" (according to his own words)... that is the person you are saying he is still a muslim?

This is Nigeria, to be particular Southern Nigeria, we have freedom to abandon any religion - there are no consequences whatsoever!

Somguy:


People who drink and party can still be Muslim though. They're misguided but are still Muslim as long as they still believe and do the basics.

I'm aware of atheist/Christian ex-Muslims, but they are still a very small minority.

TheTransformer:
A guy that has openly told me he is no longer a muslim but just has to pretend for his mother and father is still a muslim right?

i asked him does he want to be a Christian, he said he wants to be a "floater" (according to his own words)... that is the person you are saying he is still a muslim?

This is Nigeria, to be particular Southern Nigeria, we have freedom to abandon any religion - there are no consequences whatsoever!

I never said that he was Muslim. Re-read my post. I said that drinking and partying does not take you out from the fold of Islam. If your friend says that he is a disbeliever, I believe him.

I'm not really sure why you expect me to be surprised that some Muslims are leaving Islam. Many atheists and Christians are coming to Islam as well. What's the big deal? There have always been people who adopt different religions and ideologies.

TheTransformer:
A guy that has openly told me he is no longer a muslim but just has to pretend for his mother and father is still a muslim right?

i asked him does he want to be a Christian, he said he wants to be a "floater" (according to his own words)... that is the person you are saying he is still a muslim?

This is Nigeria, to be particular Southern Nigeria, we have freedom to abandon any religion - there are no consequences whatsoever!

you're just stringing random reasons together, no one understands what you're trying to say or how you're inputting to this discussion, just stop wasting your time, we're all confused with what you're adding to this

Somguy:


Yemenis (especially in the South) carry our genes. There's also been a lot of cultural exchange over the centuries.

Yeah I know how trolls can negatively effect you. At one point I kept seeing a lot of hate against Somalis from African Americans, Caribbeans and other Africans who didn't even live around Somalis. Then I noticed that there were Somali losers on their websites who were insulting them for no reason.

This whole thing started way back in the day when African Americans started to fetishise East African women. I remember a thread from like 2002 on a UK based Pan-Africanist forum where some African American guy was degrading his own women and praising Ethiopian and Somali women. All hell broke loose as you would imagine.

Insecure Somali trolls started attacking him. African American women and women of West African descent began insulting East African women, EA women got involved. That thread was literally hundreds of pages long. It also spawned numerous similar threads.

The egos of HOA women were naturally inflated. Insecure HOA men began to attack WA men and this crap spilled into every black forum lol.

Add to that the fact that race and DNA forums began to fixate on Horners and many whites began to differentiate between Horners and West African, claiming that the former were mixed and not really "Negro". Again this caused plenty of petty conflicts.

omg that makes so much sense now, AA men did fetishize on East-Africans back in the day and still a bit today. it always confused me how West-Africans got into the spark. Somalis in America tend to isolate themselves away from AA, but in the UK it's a little different.
But with Nigerians in Nigeria, they barely had idea of the HOA association when it came to culture and relationship, that came out of nowhere, so to be honest the AA started this loool what a mess, but we have to deal with it and clean up this mess somehow

You are obviously a liar... since you previously said you researched it in your previous comments.

You litereally just put random words together to reply to me, stop wasting my time you sound like an i.d.i.o.t
your grandparents? moved to lagos? and haven't been back to their village what does that have to do with culture? WTF.... shut the hell up
and w.t.f... Do you even know what Somalis are have you ever met Somalis? shut up
You will never meet a Somali christian in your life, I swear to you, there are under 1000 somalis in the world that are christian under 1000, [size=18pt](research this now)[/size] and shut up, stop wasting my bloody time

Rivertemz:

I've known that for years, because ive discussed that with my Somali friends, do you even know any Somalis in person ??

TheTransformer:
You are obviously a liar... since you previously said you researched it in your previous comments.

LOOL i was telling you to Research it now

Not that I researched it just now you're heavily reaching for a reason to stay relevant.
I'll repeat myself, do you know any Somalis in person ??

Since you are also not smart enough to figure it out... i was pointing to him that Somalis outside Somalia change their religion (Islam) without any consequences because in these countries (USA, UK and Kenya) there are no penalties for abandoning any religion be it Islam or Christianity... you get it... my friend's case was just an example of what happens in a free society.

Rivertemz:

you're just stringing random reasons together, no one understands what you're trying to say or how you're inputting to this discussion, just stop wasting your time, we're all confused with what you're adding to this

TheTransformer:
Since you are also not smart enough to figure it out... i was pointing to him that Somalis outside Somalia change their religion (Islam) without any consequences because in these countries (USA, UK and Kenya) there are no penalties for abandoning any religion be it Islam or Christianity... you get it... my friend's case was just an example of what happens in a free society.

*sigh* you've proven nothing my friend, you're just wasting precious time.
Go and look for that Somali Christian. they exist but there's no point in you mentioning them, all ethnic groups have one religion on the other, from experience growing up with somalis i know their community is >99% islamic, idk why this is going over your head, it's not important to you
To be honest, you're more likely to find either a muslim somali, a non-practicing muslim somali or an athiest somali, i have met all three of these types, i have never met a somali christian.
I am 100% sure you've never met a Somali before, just from replying to them online, so all your comments are irrelavant in this discussion, that is my point, that's why i couldn't take you seriously from the beginning

On the Internet I can tell you I know Putin and Obama... how do you prove it?
My stance has not changed... there are Somali Christians simple... minority or not, they exist.

Rivertemz:

LOOL i was telling you to Research it now

Not that I researched it just now you're heavily reaching for a reason to stay relevant.
I'll repeat myself, do you know any Somalis in person ??

TheTransformer:
On the Internet I can tell you I know Putin and Obama... how do you prove it?
My stance has not changed... there are Somali Christians simple... minority or not, they exist.

again
this is not the discussion, it was never about Somali christians, idk why you're focused on that. why you've forced yourself to this point.
Its about how much do YOU know about Somalis.
BARELY
So just get off the paddle of defending whatever you're claiming and go to bed.

This is my last reply to you since it is obvious you are either a child or a really st.u.pid person... this whole debate started because you are acting as the mouth piece of over 150 million Nigerians saying we dont marry Somalis...

My stance is we marry whoever the hell we want to marry, Nigerians dont take instructions from hateful and ignorant people like you.

You claim your mother would reject a girl you bring home just for being Somali and that Nigerian mothers are like that... I replied you that my own Mother doesn't see things that way, she would just ask a few questions - one of which is "is the girl a christian?"

And that is when you fish brain activated itself and you stared acting like a small pikin starving of bre.ast milk. Making assumptions again that there are no Somali Christians in the whole world which shows your ignorance and childishness.(because there are even Somali Christian converts in neighbouring country Kenya before we talk of US and UK)..

A smart person would see it for what it is - this guy (me) has no qualms marrying a Somali, it is just that her religion has to be similar to his family's own - period that would have ended it all but you are just too st.u.p.id to realise the bottom.line of my whole point of view!

And then you are trying to act as if having a somali friend is an achievement I should aim for...

My man have some sense... you are just plain du.mb and childish.

Rivertemz:

again
this is not the discussion, it was never about Somali christians, idk why you're focused on that. why you've forced yourself to this point.
Its about how much do YOU know about Somalis.
BARELY
So just get off the paddle of defending whatever you're claiming and go to bed.

TheTransformer:
This is my last reply to you since it is obvious you are either a child or a really st.u.pid person... this whole debate started because you are acting as the mouth piece of over 150 million Nigerians saying we dont marry Somalis...

My stance is we marry whoever the hell we want to marry, Nigerians dont take instructions from hateful and ignorant people like you.

You claim your mother would reject a girl you bring home just for being Somali and that Nigerian mothers are like that... I replied you that my own Mother doesn't see things that way, she would just ask a few questions - one of which is "is the girl a christian?"

And that is when you fish brain activated itself and you stared acting like a small pikin starving of bre.ast milk. Making assumptions again that there are no Somali Christians in the whole world which shows your ignorance and childishness.(because there are even Somali Christian converts in neighbouring country Kenya before we talk of US and UK)..

A smart person would see it for what it is - this guy (me) has no qualms marrying a Somali, it is just that her religion has to be similar to his family's own - period that would have ended it all but you are just too st.u.p.id to realise the bottom.line of my whole point of view!

And then you are trying to act as if having a somali friend is an achievement I should aim for...

My man have some sense... you are just plain du.mb and childish.

Oh wow I told you to go to bed and you woke up from your stumbler to continue with your Bs'ing LMAO typical mumu
Good Good we're all very happy that this will be your last reply. Thank God we don't have to deal with ignorances, blessing and praises to sanity.

Rivertemz:

*sigh* you've proven nothing my friend, you're just wasting precious time.
Go and look for that Somali Christian. they exist but there's no point in you mentioning them, all ethnic groups have one religion on the other, from experience growing up with somalis i know their community is >99% islamic, idk why this is going over your head, it's not important to you
To be honest, you're more likely to find either a muslim somali, a non-practicing muslim somali or an athiest somali, i have met all three of these types, i have never met a somali christian.
I am 100% sure you've never met a Somali before, just from replying to them online, so all your comments are irrelavant in this discussion, that is my point, that's why i couldn't take you seriously from the beginning

Maybe him.
But in Nairobi,where I happen to live, there are even Somali Pastors leave alone converts. For some reason, they are either Orthodox, or evangelicals.

Nigerian men and Ethiopian women

should I revive this thread? I think it trended on ethiopian social-media if it got 50,000 view ?!? woww

Somali Christians are a rare sight, just like winning the lottery.

Rivertemz:
should I revive this thread? I think it trended on ethiopian social-media if it got 50,000 view ?!? woww

Glad I came to see this topic. Ethiopian women are beautiful and Nigerian men are handsome. It seems a great combination.

I recently found this beautiful Ethiopian girl on the Internet.

Hati13:

Glad I came to see this topic. Ethiopian women are beautiful and Nigerian men are handsome. It seems a great combination.

I recently found this beautiful Ethiopian girl on the Internet.

Are you a pedophile ?

Rivertemz:

Are you a pedophile ?

Just looked what pedophile means. I’m shocked you ask this. No, I’m not sexually attracted to children but just like them in a normal sense.

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Hati13:

Glad I came to see this topic. Ethiopian women are beautiful and Nigerian men are handsome. It seems a great combination.

I recently found this beautiful Ethiopian girl on the Internet.

For sure walal, especially the ones with big eyes.

Ethiopian and Nigerian wedding


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__KFd_Shfhw

Rivertemz:
Ethiopian and Nigerian wedding


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__KFd_Shfhw

Nice!

Update on their life, they have a baby!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV1cKprzPn8

Mission accomplished. It's sick