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CaptJeffry:
US military is on high alert right now. If anybody do sh1t, e go rain on him sharpally.

Russia na moi moi.

Russia na moi moi for where?

They might not enough fire power as america

But they can cause damage to america.

NdiaraIGBO:
I am sure you live in Nigeria swallowing all the BS you are fed by CNN! Like I said let USA try North Korea if they dare.

You think they are negotiating due to sanctions? Negotiating what? Have they given up anything? They are willing to talk now because they have completed their nuclear deterrence programme, they are negotiating from the the position of great power.

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War costs money. North Korea has nothing that US wants.
The only reason they are paying attention to NK is the nuclear weapon. Don't forget that US is not a charity organization.
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Russia is no inch close to America, if one could recall correctly.... Russia arsenal today was for the joint Soviet Union before. Americans are lone wolfs.. they made everything themselves.
please never compare America with thief Russians

simeonkoolluck:
If it were naija, all the bombs will land.. .no defense system SMH

who wants to waste their time launching a missile to Buhariland. When we already have an IBM as president.

Luiz1:
"Position of GREAT power..." Shuuuuu?

Yes suddenly the great USA accepted to talk to a so called dictator of a so called rogue state. Without reference or consultation with their allies!
Alaye, take it or leave it USA will never dream of going to war with North Korea.....Reason? Hwasong 15 monster intercontinental ballistic missile. 5 to 10 of that missile hitting the American homeland is Goodnight USA! NK is one of 4 countries with that military capability. Obviously NK will be wiped out but that is the nature of nuclear weapons - mutual annihilation!

Firgemachar:
Where and when did Trump ever say he was targeting Russian personnel for chrissake

Oversabi undergrad!

Oversabi graduate where and when did I say Trump would do that?

Russia said *if*

abduljabbar4:
What a dumb fool. how stupid can humans get? Those bombs will destroy the whole if Nigeria even if you drop them in Niger or cameroun but ipoop pigs like you are too ignorant to know that

abeg I reply to people with ambitions not to one useless worm infested miscreants without a cause

OAUTemitayo:
Oversabi graduate where and when did I say Trump would do that?

Russia said *if*

So why were you now expecting Trump to strike Russian personnel in Syria

How many logic courses have you taken so far?

Firgemachar:
So why were you now expecting Trump to strike Russian personnel in Syria

How many logic courses have you taken so far?

Bro, sense fall on you with due respect.
If you don't understand what a "reported speech" is, maybe we need to verify your academic credentials.
Nkan se yin ni?

OAUTemitayo:
Bro, sense fall on you with due respect.
If you don't understand what a "reported speech" is, maybe we need to verify your academic credentials.
Nkan se yin ni?

Olodo ni e!

Trump NEVER said he will strike Russian targets in Syria.

He NEVER did!

Russia said they would attack U.S. launch sites should the U.S. carry out a missile attack.

They NEVER did!

So what is your rationale for daring Trump in the first instance

I think you need to leave Nairaland and face your studies even more for your own good.

mojeer678:
the way they want it, NOT!

My initial conclusion last night, based on social media, was (mostly) correct
The only mistake is I thought S-400 missiles were used. Instead, S-200 and less expensive missiles were used. There is a false claim that only 12 cruise missiles were hit. In fact, 12 cruise missiles were shot down defending ONE base, which equaled 100 percent of what was fired at it. Sub sonic cruise missiles are obviously useless against Russia's missiles.

I am going to stick with my assessment that something big was going to happen that caused the U.S. to stop the attack. All the cruise missiles could report their status to the launch site, and the U.S. was sitting there watching them vanish before they reached their targets. "reporting back" was early 90's tech, that the cruise missiles had even then. So it would have been ominous to watch them vanish, And then suddenly, Russian planes were in the air, preparing to attack. That did happen, regardless of whatever any claims are. And within 20 minutes (before they reached their targets) it was suddenly announced that the attack which was supposed to last for days was suddenly over, after only about an hour. Something big happened, and no one is saying what. My guess is that Russia made the right threat. Here is the next day report from RT:

"The majority of rockets fired in Syria by the UK, US, and France were intercepted by Syrian air defense systems, the Russian Defense Ministry said. Russian air defense units were not involved in repelling the attack. The warplanes and vessels of the US and its allies launched over 100 cruise missiles and air-surface missiles on Syrian civil and military facilities, the ministry stated.

The strikes were conducted by two US ships stationed in the Red Sea, with tactical air support from the Mediterranean and Rockwell B-1 Lancer bombers from Al-Tanf coalition airbase in Syria's Homs province, according to the statement.

Syrian Al-Dumayr Military Airport, located 40 km north-east from Damascus, was attacked by 12 cruise missiles, the Russian MoD confirmed, adding that all missiles were intercepted by Syrian air defense systems.

To repel the attack, Damascus deployed Soviet-made surface-to-air missile systems, including S-125 (NATO reporting name: SA-3 Goa), S-200 (SA-5 Gammon), 2K12 Kub (SA-6 Gainful) and Buk.

Russia did not deploy its air defense systems located in Syria to intercept the American, British, and French missiles.

Earlier, the ministry issued a statement saying that none of the missiles launched by the US and its allies reached the Russian air defense zones that shield facilities in the port city of Tartus and Khmeimim Air Base.

MY SALIENT COMMENT THAT I HAVE MADE BEFORE: Gee, if all those trillions did not go missing from the Pentagon on 911, trillions of dollars, which were hit by that "plane" that impacted right where the records were kept maybe old Russian tech would not have had such a high kill rate against American missiles, which would have been a LOT BETTER if those trillions stayed in the budget!

The U.S. military can talk all it wants about blowing destroyed or totally weak nations away, and talk all about how great it is and how invincible it is, but if Russian tech even hit half the incoming missiles the U.S. military had better start thinking twice, and all the war hawks had better figure out where all that money went!

Syria hit 70 plus percent of America's "nice, new, "smart" missiles with 15+ years outdated Russian crap! Syria did not even use anything "good, " and it was Syria, not Russia, that repelled the attack. That dear folks equals DOOM. You can't win if a relatively small economy nation who bought old Russian toys was able to repel you with no help from Russia, and partied the next day!

The bottom line is that unlike the gulf war, where America had real superiority, this time around America went against technology that happened to be "enough". All it takes is "enough", it really does not matter if your missiles have 128 bit tech when 16 bit is "enough". The game has changed.

It appears Russia was going to attack, and the U.S. was threatened into stopping the attack
This is probably the case. When this started, it was "going to be sustained, lasting days". Then a large number of Russian planes took off, and suddenly America stopped attacking after only about an hour. Here's what that adds up to:

A threat was made that a 7000 MPH hypersonic missile was going to go into the center of the U.S. fleet with a megaton warhead. This is pure speculation, but think about it -
How do you go from "we are going to attack in waves, for days" to "an hour into the battle let's call it quits"? And it is now confirmed that the Russian missile systems knocked out virtually ALL American cruise missiles, resulting in a totally failed missile attack. A few planes dropped bombs and then went home, with nothing returning. I think America quit because:

1. Russian defenses worked perfect, and America was watching it's missiles go POOF on computer screens before they reached their targets, and

2. Russian war planes took off after the air defenses were very well proven, with confirmed destruction of practically all cruise missiles. That alone would not stop an American attack, but if any planes were carrying nukes it sure would, if it was proven Russian air defenses would escort those planes to their targets unscathed.

The big proof: the "days long attack" lasted about an hour. SOMETHING HAPPENED.

trash......

MrMystrO:
AMERICA HAS FAILED!!! UNCLE PUTIN IS THE BOSS

No Chemical Weapons ANYWHERE! Only Western Propaganda.
Thank God for Russia, America would have been pushing their imperialistic Agenda on this world anyhow they like if not for them. But Russia and the Syria situation has de-stabilized that Monopoly.

Before you quote me, Educate yourself first on the REAL reason for the war.. Read this:

http://affinitymagazine.us/2017/04/08/the-real-reason-why-theres-war-in-syria/

When you've become aware of the FACTS, then we can talk.

well i guess ur hatered for uncle sam has you hailing putin nd his kremelin (to be greater than usa bullshit).
gudluck communists.....

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DaAwesome1:
well i guess ur hatered for uncle sam has you hailing putin nd his kremelin (to be greater than usa bullshit).
gudluck communists.....

Loool

Uncle sam has been compromised, What we have now is the United states of Israel bro
Zionist puppets is what they are.

Firgemachar:
Olodo ni e!

Trump NEVER said he will strike Russian targets in Syria.

He NEVER did!

Russia said they would attack U.S. launch sites should the U.S. carry out a missile attack.

They NEVER did!

So what is your rationale for daring Trump in the first instance

I think you need to leave Nairaland and face your studies even more for your own good.

Ori yin ti Ku sa.

Russia made a threat and true to it, America avoided Russian positions within Syrian military sites.

Obagreatdatoye:
trash......

SOmeone made a well-stated case and your reply Is "trash", please can you be more explanatory than an unsubstantiated dismissal else you are the exact definition of what Trump said about Nigeria.

We need to be more educative in our assessment other than just wishful thinking...

You might want to abuse me but I challenge you to use your facts and prove him wrong

OAUTemitayo:
Ori yin ti Ku sa.

Russia made a threat and true to it, America avoided Russian positions within Syrian military sites.

Arindin!

Trump NEVER said he will attack Russian positions.

How many times will I reiterate this fact

So ma graduate bayi sha

On the radio now: reported strikes on Iranian territory by unidentified aircraft- educated guess, Israel.

I'll repeat my thoughts and it is one few people seem to conclude even with historic evidence in front of their noses. And this is it: the war in Syria was orchestrated by the West in order to remove Asad from power to favour Israel interest. Before the democratic movements and protests in Syria was exploited to topple Assad, as was done in Libya to topple Gadaffi, Assad was continually in the media threatening Israel just as Iran's, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad often did, threatening Israel with annihilation. Another of Syria's aims was the return of golan heights. The Western powers hoped that the democratic forces would topple Assad unfortunately for the Western Powers, many of the forces ranged against Assad were revealed in the media as extremists. Supporting these forces ranged against Assad became untenable and I believe that Obama did the humane thing and decided that Assad's rule was the lesser of two Wickeds. He Obabama likely felt that better Syrians lived under the tyranny of Assad as they once did, with their heady cafe culture, arts, music,spices and otherwise normal life, excepting democracy, than continue to loose their lives daily, like now, bombs destroying their ones proud nation.

This probably did not please the Israelis, worst Obama rehabilitated the Iranians into the world community by working out the nuclear deal. In any case, soon as Trump became leader with right wing, Christian fundamentalist, Tea-party pro-Isreil hawks whispering in his ears, the Agender to remove Assad was rejuvenated.

In any case, to cut to the upshot: it seems unlikely, in spite of all the noises that Trump makes about withdrawing American troops and letting the situation in Syria resolve itself in whatever way events were taking, which is with the Russia,Syria and Iranian coalition defeating the rebellion, that the West will let things rest. At least not while Israel fears a Victorious Assad returning his nation to how things were and in alliance with rejuvenated Iran grown in influence.

I believe that the only thing acceptable to the West, short of regime change, is a Syrian nation weakened by factional fighting after the West manoeuvrers her, post war, into a split.

mojeer678:
the way they want it, NOT!

My initial conclusion last night, based on social media, was (mostly) correct
The only mistake is I thought S-400 missiles were used. Instead, S-200 and less expensive missiles were used. There is a false claim that only 12 cruise missiles were hit. In fact, 12 cruise missiles were shot down defending ONE base, which equaled 100 percent of what was fired at it. Sub sonic cruise missiles are obviously useless against Russia's missiles.

I am going to stick with my assessment that something big was going to happen that caused the U.S. to stop the attack. All the cruise missiles could report their status to the launch site, and the U.S. was sitting there watching them vanish before they reached their targets. "reporting back" was early 90's tech, that the cruise missiles had even then. So it would have been ominous to watch them vanish, And then suddenly, Russian planes were in the air, preparing to attack. That did happen, regardless of whatever any claims are. And within 20 minutes (before they reached their targets) it was suddenly announced that the attack which was supposed to last for days was suddenly over, after only about an hour. Something big happened, and no one is saying what. My guess is that Russia made the right threat. Here is the next day report from RT:

"The majority of rockets fired in Syria by the UK, US, and France were intercepted by Syrian air defense systems, the Russian Defense Ministry said. Russian air defense units were not involved in repelling the attack. The warplanes and vessels of the US and its allies launched over 100 cruise missiles and air-surface missiles on Syrian civil and military facilities, the ministry stated.

The strikes were conducted by two US ships stationed in the Red Sea, with tactical air support from the Mediterranean and Rockwell B-1 Lancer bombers from Al-Tanf coalition airbase in Syria's Homs province, according to the statement.

Syrian Al-Dumayr Military Airport, located 40 km north-east from Damascus, was attacked by 12 cruise missiles, the Russian MoD confirmed, adding that all missiles were intercepted by Syrian air defense systems.

To repel the attack, Damascus deployed Soviet-made surface-to-air missile systems, including S-125 (NATO reporting name: SA-3 Goa), S-200 (SA-5 Gammon), 2K12 Kub (SA-6 Gainful) and Buk.

Russia did not deploy its air defense systems located in Syria to intercept the American, British, and French missiles.

Earlier, the ministry issued a statement saying that none of the missiles launched by the US and its allies reached the Russian air defense zones that shield facilities in the port city of Tartus and Khmeimim Air Base.

MY SALIENT COMMENT THAT I HAVE MADE BEFORE: Gee, if all those trillions did not go missing from the Pentagon on 911, trillions of dollars, which were hit by that "plane" that impacted right where the records were kept maybe old Russian tech would not have had such a high kill rate against American missiles, which would have been a LOT BETTER if those trillions stayed in the budget!

The U.S. military can talk all it wants about blowing destroyed or totally weak nations away, and talk all about how great it is and how invincible it is, but if Russian tech even hit half the incoming missiles the U.S. military had better start thinking twice, and all the war hawks had better figure out where all that money went!

Syria hit 70 plus percent of America's "nice, new, "smart" missiles with 15+ years outdated Russian crap! Syria did not even use anything "good, " and it was Syria, not Russia, that repelled the attack. That dear folks equals DOOM. You can't win if a relatively small economy nation who bought old Russian toys was able to repel you with no help from Russia, and partied the next day!

The bottom line is that unlike the gulf war, where America had real superiority, this time around America went against technology that happened to be "enough". All it takes is "enough", it really does not matter if your missiles have 128 bit tech when 16 bit is "enough". The game has changed.

It appears Russia was going to attack, and the U.S. was threatened into stopping the attack
This is probably the case. When this started, it was "going to be sustained, lasting days". Then a large number of Russian planes took off, and suddenly America stopped attacking after only about an hour. Here's what that adds up to:

A threat was made that a 7000 MPH hypersonic missile was going to go into the center of the U.S. fleet with a megaton warhead. This is pure speculation, but think about it -
How do you go from "we are going to attack in waves, for days" to "an hour into the battle let's call it quits"? And it is now confirmed that the Russian missile systems knocked out virtually ALL American cruise missiles, resulting in a totally failed missile attack. A few planes dropped bombs and then went home, with nothing returning. I think America quit because:

1. Russian defenses worked perfect, and America was watching it's missiles go POOF on computer screens before they reached their targets, and

2. Russian war planes took off after the air defenses were very well proven, with confirmed destruction of practically all cruise missiles. That alone would not stop an American attack, but if any planes were carrying nukes it sure would, if it was proven Russian air defenses would escort those planes to their targets unscathed.

The big proof: the "days long attack" lasted about an hour. SOMETHING HAPPENED.

Bros you tried, you mean you wrote all this speculations based on your thoughts only.

lets assume you were right that something happened which definitely didn't, you need to understand that both countries (US & Russia) try hard to avoid an avoidable war. The US avoids Russia just as Russia avoids the US. but still, the US keeps making it clear who the boss is and Russia gets it. They would never have attacked the US ships,without enough warnings, cautions and more warnings, common "THEY KNOW THE REPERCUSSION" that is the end of the world nah moreover that is the essence of a deterrent. remember last month, about 200 russian backed militias were killed when they tried to attack a US base in Syria, it was "a slaughter" as the Russians claimed.

as much as both countries try to avoid direct confrontations, the US has always shown they are the boss even in the clouds of syria.

moreover, the US made the strikes as precise as possible so no one would see reasons to escalate. I conclude by saying I think Trump truly wants out of Syria.

OneKinGuy:
You shouod understand that a war on North Korea is a war on china too. Not because of they are alies ooo. But cos NK boarders China. There is no way you will attack any country that boarders china without china being involvedd

Makes sense.

slimdamatrix1:
And who is gonna show America anyhow? Russia ?
Don’t be too quick to jump into conclusions because you hate America. Russia cannot still stand the U.S and as imperfect as America is, I still prefer them as super power compared to Russia or China.
Btw they will stay on as super power till the world ends.

Forget Western Media brain wash, Russia will checkmate America. America is the problem in the world and they are in check cos of Russia. I stay with a Syrian and speak to someone in Aleppo on a daily basis. US are actually the ones sponsoring the bad guys. You know why?? It’s the oil. They want access to it.

Uncle Putin is pissed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gt71ywPT7k

Pro-Assad supporters rally against US, UK and France after Syria air strikes


Supporters of Bashar Assad have rallied against the US, UK and France after the three countries launched a series of airstrikes in Syria.

It now appears that President Assad is even more determined than ever to crush his enemies.

MrMystrO:
True, but America is has turned into an Imperialist Terrorist Organization and their Leaders have become nothing but Jewish puppets only loyal to the state of Israel. Their Legitimate Right to be the leader of the Free world has been compromised by all the Atrocities they've committed over the years. It's high time they Are checked or else if Left unchecked, their imperialistic monopolistic tendencies Could turn into something Else which could prove dangerous for the world and I'm Glad Russia and China is there to check them. In other words, These checks and Balance is Good for both America and also for the world at large. Have a great morning.

You really trust Russia and China to checkmate the excesses of America?
Isn't that jumping from the frying pan to hell fire?

MrMystrO:
What is this one even saying? Can't you Read? 13 Of their Missiles just got DESTROYED and you're here spitting gibberish. How do you think those missiles were destroyed? by Syrian air power alone? The era of US dominance is over and special Thanks to Vladmir Putin and Russia for making that happen. And if them try "Anyhow" them go see "Anyhow". THIS IS NOT LIBYA!!!

Lol.....My guy this is international politics. Those missiles the US fired were just duds and nothing more. They just want to start a war and send a signal thereby starting it with cheap weapons. Wait till the real thing comes then you'll know the best scientists in the world are working for the US weapons industry. The same thing happened during the gulf war. They started it with dud missiles and Russia (in order to test their latest missiles) came in to arm Saddam and Iraq. But when the real thing started, no Russian weapon could hold out any American weapon.

My advice for Russia and Syria: "Don't be deceived"

SalamRushdie:
Russian built air defence scored a pass here..lets see how these goes while we expect a rise in oil prices

You guys shouldn't be deceived. America wants war, and they have just given the Russians a fake impression that their new weapons defence are superb. A typical way of luring a blow hard into a fight. I have seen this play out before. This is just a repetition.

slimdamatrix1:
In this case, they weren’t particularly shut down. The defense system did its work. I meant a full confrontation with US forces was at the back of my mind when I expressed my desires for Russia’s response. Tired of arguments between Trump and Putin and as inhumane as I may sound, Syria is already at war- US and Russia might as well use Syria as a venue for the battle.



I’m being silly.

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slimdamatrix1:
In this case, they weren’t particularly shut down. The defense system did its work. I meant a full confrontation with US forces was at the back of my mind when I expressed my desires for Russia’s response. Tired of arguments between Trump and Putin and as inhumane as I may sound, Syria is already at war- US and Russia might as well use Syria as a venue for the battle.



I’m being silly.

No you're not being silly. Exaclty my point. You're the only person making sense here. These two nations will never fight each other cos of the grave consequences. Rather they use a smaller nation to test their latest weapons in a proxy war. I repeat myself: "This is a repetition of 1991 Gulf war in Kuwait.

Reelectbuhari:
If u don't know what to say shut up....

Nigeria should never have existed in the first place.....

i wonder why America, Russia should be wasting weapons wen places like north, sw are available......atleast it will lead to quick disintegration of this country.....

I even wonder if Nigeria has an airforce....

the last time I cheecked, they bought a jet America used in 1945 war.....lolzzzz....

Why not have your father come teach me what to say on NL.

wildkat:
Lol.....My guy this is international politics. Those missiles the US fired were just duds and nothing more. They just want to start a war and send a signal thereby starting it with cheap weapons. Wait till the real thing comes then you'll know the best scientists in the world are working for the US weapons industry. The same thing happened during the gulf war. They started it with dud missiles and Russia (in order to test their latest missiles) came in to arm Saddam and Iraq. But when the real thing started, no Russian weapon could hold out any American weapon.

My advice for Russia and Syria: "Don't be received"

probably they didn't get that part that those missiles where the early versions of cruise developed in the early 70's & 80's.

tellmemore15:
probably they didn't get that part that those missiles where the early versions of cruise developed in the early 70's & 80's.

Lol...don't mind them. Let's just seat and watch Russia recycle their own mumurity, because they never learn.
It's not by showcasing missiles in Red Square with military parades. We are watching.

SternProphet:
Trump is scared of the deep state ( secret, non politician leaders inside pentagon, state department and CIA) in the US. They will boot him out of power very fast if he does not start opposing Putin. All the diplomat expulsion, sanctions and now these strikes are to save his own neck. The man is quarter to go and they have many tracks to get him out of office. He will be a good boy and do the needful.

Nobody can do sh.it about Trump.
The so-called deep state are are made of biased officials appointed mainly by Obama to fundamentally change America. I repeat America's biggest enemy isn't Russia or Iran.... It is the radical left which Obama represented