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sureteeboy:
Hmm... Brainstorming? Yet your explanation was lifted off the English dictionary verbatim.

Verbatim? No, not everything, just the definition of idiom.. And explaining it is the 'brainstorming'

lonikit:
I hav used google but didnt get a satisfactory answer

. So you're expecting us to give satisfactory answer abi??

U must be mad

Okay.. Figures of speech are the likes of Simile, Metaphor, Oxymoron, and so on.
It isn't straightforward, it deviates from the norm of literal language owing to it's structure.
Like under Simile, there's the comparison of one thing with another, e.g., "He's as dull as our President."
The writer in a way, is saying a fact but not straight up, instead of saying, "He's dull, our president too is dull."
There's the conciseness in figures of speech. Same goes for others, Oxymoron where there is the placing side by side two contradictory words or facts, for example, it was a "painful pleasure."


While on the other hand idioms are phrases, like proverbs, but not in the deeper sense of it.
Let me cull from a site to buttress that.
http://examples.yourdictionary.com/idiom.html

Idiom also refers to a dialect or jargon of a group of people, either in a certain region or a group with common interests, like in science, music, art, or business.
Common idioms that refer to people include:
A chip on your shoulder - means you are holding a grudge
High as a kite - means you are drunk or on drugs
Sick as a dog - means you are very ill
Idioms that refer to your actions would be:
Rub someone the wrong way - meaning to annoy or bother
Jump the gun - would mean to be doing something early
Pay the piper - means you need to face the consequences of your actions
Some idioms use color words to convey other meanings. For example, there are several that use the word “blue:”
“The blues” can refer to both a style of music and feeling sad.
If something occurs rarely, it is said to happen “once in a blue moon”, because a blue moon is two full moons in one month, which doesn’t happen often.
“Out of the blue” means something happens that was unexpected.

Checked86:
They are not even related or near

an idiom is part of the figures of speech we have. examples of idiom are
(1)shuberu kicked the bucket
(2)buhari is a square in a round hole
and on the other hand,we have types of figures of speech which includes
oxymoron
pun
idiom
simile
hyperbole
e. t. c

PurplePatch:
I'd like to know too. I know Google is my friends but let's do it here for all.

..it shouldn't always be about celebs.

figures of speech have more to do with literature while idiomatic expression is promintent in English language.

IDIOM.....

An idiom is an expression that conveys something different from its literal meaning, and that cannot be guessed from the meanings of its individual words. “Between a rock and a hard place” is an idiom that means “in a difficult or bad position with no good way of getting out of it.” What makes an idiom different from a figure of speech is that its nonliteral meaning is already familiar to speakers of the language.

Figures of speech

A figure of speech is a phrase or an expression that expresses an idea by using words in a nonliteral and imaginative way. Unlike an idiom, it is possible to understand a figure of speech even if you have never heard it before. Metaphors and similes are figures of speech.

in a layman's term, an idiom is a regularly used word which can also be a figure of speech but they're not easily understood like our day-to-day words. it is good the speaker understands an idiom before using it to avoid embarrassing himself in public like buhariguy, sarrkki and all other APC brainless zombies.

for instance, "a stitch in time saves nine" is an idiom which suggests sorting out a problem in time to avoid stories that touch. the meaning is not clear as expressed.

in figure of speech, although the word or phrase has meaning other than the literal meaning, the difference is that it's clearly understandable unlike idioms. it can be an alliteration, simile, metaphor or hyperbole.

for instance, "this has to be the 100th time i'll tell you to stop shouting 'sai baba!'". here, i exaggerated (i used a hyperbole) but my listener/reader would understand that i meant i've warned you "several times" to stop being a zombie.

another example of a figure of speech, metamorphically, is "boooohari has a heart of stone". of course, we all know the president is strong-willed, stubborn and wicked but there's no way his heart is made of stone. you don't have to interpret this to a layman.

If you want to know the real difference between the two, ask Nigeria minister of Sport

Idiom is mostly used by idiots while figure of speech is mostly used byVIPS especially during broadcast

for instance, "this has to be the 100th time i'll tell you to stop shouting 'sai baba!'". here, i exaggerated (i used a hyperbole) but my listener/reader would understand that i meant i've warned you "several times" to stop being a zombie.

another example of a figure of speech, metamorphically, is "boooohari has a heart of stone". of course, we all know the president is strong-willed, stubborn and wicked but there's no way his heart is made of stone.[/quote]You are one very mad guy! LMAO!!!

lonikit:
Pls nairalanders, wht are the main differences BTW idiomatic expression and figure of speech.

what a lovely question! idioms are body of phrases which are impregnated with meaning. while figures of speech tells about the meaning of a sentence in a connotative way.

for example
ade is a snake (that's a metaphor )
ade is a snake under a green grass ( snake under a green grass is an idiom )

Everyone has tried but not so well Idioms and Figures of speech are more African than you think.

Idiom are a group of words spoken in a wonderful energetic and sycophantic way by the pppl of idoma while figures of speech is always used by terrorists against the Nigerian Army.

For example, when a book haram sees a Nigerian soldier and says " what an infidel of a shithole country" that's a figure of speech.

I have not eaten since morning in case what I have typed is not in relevance with what the thread is all about. On my way to eaten, I mean to eaten. eat rather.



Forgot to tell you I got a pass in Waec English.

go to the bible genesis to mark u Wil c d difference

sureteeboy:
Lots of comments, and yet no single response so far
An idiomatic expression is any kind of phrase whose meaning differs from the literal meaning of the words that make it up. e.g, to let the cat out of the bag would have literally meant "releasing a cat from a bag" as the phrase suggests, but since it's not used in such context, it is tagged an idiom.
A Figure of speech is just like an idiom as well, however, their non literal meanings are quite easier to decipher than idioms

This guy sureteeboy is definitely not a lazy Nigerian youth.

With an idiom, the meaning of the combined words are not deducible from the sentence eg 'kick the bucket' , 'hot potato', 'hear from the horses mouth', 'once in a blue moon'. This implies that you must learn idioms, their meaning is not apparent.
Figure of speech is a literary device that employs phrases in a non literal sense. There are over 20 classes of figure of speech from alliteration to understatement. See here for a list: https://www.thoughtco.com/top-figures-of-speech-1691818

I think idiom is for the Idoma people, but figure of speech, O.P that I cannot guarantee you an answer.

First off, let's begin with what they have in common: idioms and figures of speech both have special meaning. In other words, they don't mean exactly what they say. They say one thing and mean something else. In summary therefore, idioms and figures of speech both have figurative value (conveying meaning different from the ordinary words used).

That said, idioms are fixed, formulaic expressions that convey meaning that can not be deduced from the individual, or collective, meaning of the words that make up the idiom. For example, the idiom 'to kick the bucket' has nothing to do with buckets or the act of kicking. It talks about death, instead.

Figures of speech, on the other hand, are devices of literature that are employed to add colour and imaginative creativity to works of literature. They range from devices such as metaphor, personification, simile to synecdoche, etc. For example, 'this shirt makes me hot' interpreted literally means that the shirt makes me sweat. However, interpreted literarily (metaphorically), it means that the shirt makes me sexy.

I hope that helped?

sureteeboy:
Hmm... Brainstorming? Yet your explanation was lifted off the English dictionary verbatim.

how do you get know he lifted it from the dict. I guess you were about doing the same thing then you realise it had already bin done

Saintsammy59:
. So you're expecting us to give satisfactory answer abi??

U must be mad

if u later hav problem nw, they wil be blaming village pple not knowing wht u av caused for ursev. what warranted this trash u spilled

Saintsammy59:
. So you're expecting us to give satisfactory answer abi??

U must be mad

if u later av problems now they won't knw where u hav erred and they wil be blaming ur village pple. I'm sure nobody forced u to comment

lonikit:
I hav used google but didnt get a satisfactory answer

You cannot know it by searching Google,unless you just want to cram the definition, unfortunately, that's what education has been reduced in Africa. Things like that are best studied within a native language. Its what we miss by fooling ourselves in white man's education.

Well, let me see whether I can help.

IDIOM: If pikin chop the thing whey mek am no sleep, im go go sleep.
IDIOM: Death whey go kill dog, no dey allow am to smell shit.

FIGURE OF SPEECH: If Buhari win the 2019 election mek I die.

While you can manufacture figure of speech, but you can't just create a brand new idiom.

As you can see, the difference is that IDIOM is something you can say and it's somebody who understands that language will understand what you mean. Its cultural, traditional saying. Our native African languages have such rich idioms, far more than English, but we fool ourselves studying English.

In figure of speech, anybody can understand what I mean.

sureteeboy:
Lots of comments, and yet no single response so far
An idiomatic expression is any kind of phrase whose meaning differs from the literal meaning of the words that make it up. e.g, to let the cat out of the bag would have literally meant "releasing a cat from a bag" as the phrase suggests, but since it's not used in such context, it is tagged an idiom.
A Figure of speech is just like an idiom as well, however, their non literal meanings are quite easier to decipher than idioms

Are proverbs or parables parts of idiomatic expression?

chloedogie:
For example is I say ''jump the gun'', it doesn't make any sense as...

This makes absolutely sense, you can actually quite literally jump a/the gun.

Kenmatt:
while Idiomatic expression has much deep meaning that has nothing to do with the simple comprehension of the sentence as it is conveyed on the sentence. Thus; you do not have to understand it literally as it looks or sounds

would someone say am not intelligent or brilliant if perhaps he utters an idiomatic expression and I couldn't understand the meaning?? cos, considering your point and someone that equates it to Allusion plus someone that said it's drawn from Greek and Latin words, what's the tendency of understanding the meaning, especially if the non commons are used in novels or other books. If am gonna be right, I think I can also equate Idiom being Allusion to Encryption considering my intelligence as a computer science student lol. Also, would I be right to say it may mean "owe" in Yoruba? cos if Yoruba say "igi gogoro maagunmiloju, atokelaatinwo", that's not what it means literally. it could mean that "one has to be prepared for any challenges". am just brainstorming though :p

kuljayms1:
Awon olodo gbogbo....

Eyin omowe e wa yaa wa ni imo.

theunnamed:
This makes absolutely sense, you can actually quite literally jump a/the gun.

Didn't get that very well. Can you re-phrase?

chloedogie:
Didn't get that very well. Can you re-phrase?

I'm saying you can literally jump a gun

Figure of speech are personification,similey,etc while idomatic expression is expressing something in a proverbial way e.g Look before you leap, All that glitters are no gold etc

Ask Icheoku

Answer Readers often ask about these terms. Here are some simple explanations. Idioms An idiom is an expression that conveys something different from its literal meaning, and that cannot be guessed from the meanings of its individual words. “Between a rock and a hard place” is an idiom that means “in a difficult or bad position with no good way of getting out of it.” What makes an idiom different from a figure of speech is that its nonliteral meaning is already familiar to speakers of the language. Figures of speech A figure of speech is a phrase or an expression that expresses an idea by using words in a nonliteral and imaginative way. Unlike an idiom, it is possible to understand a figure of speech even if you have never heard it before. Metaphors and similes are figures of speech.

fixedhollies:
Lots of differences!


Figures of speech are open ended... Depending on ur use of language. Idioms are norms, there is what acceptable. You can't construct it the way you like.


Figures of speech include irony, simile, personification etc... Idioms on d other hand are technical in nature, if u know d meaning u do, if not no idea... But figures of speech are literary I.e a feature of literature

Science teacher.

Idiom is “ilu” while figure of speech is “akpala okwu”

Ilu bu mmanu ndi igbo ji eri okwu. onye aturu ilu kowara ya, ego eji luo nne ya furu ohia.

Igbo Amaka

saabright:
how do you get know he lifted it from the dict. I guess you were about doing the same thing then you realise it had already bin done

lol. I just consulted the dictionary to be sure of my answer before misleading the general public . Bet you've heard about the "illusion of knowledge".