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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 7:14pm On May 08, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Bros if you gift Croatia the midfield what do you think would happen to your defence?

Bros calm down and understand my analysis...

My strategy is deceptive if you take it at face value.... If you literally follow the word "gift" then you will be lost. I think the word i should have used is "play through the sidelines and wings" whenever we have the possession.

Please try to understand the context... The context here is that whenever we have possession, we should take the ball to sidelines, from there we play to the wings before aiming for the goal. The key clause in my writeup indicates that we have to be in possession first before the idea of sidelines and wings come into play.

Now, i didn't say that our players should just stay put on the sidelines like stature while the Croats run riot.. No!!

But when we are not with possession, then we mark normally within the middle inorder to regain the ball.

Now if you read my first post about this strategy very well... You will notice that I suggested the formation that will suit this "gifting" of the midfield to Croatia which is the 3-5-2 formation. Naturally, 3-5-2 as a formation have already crowded your midfield by default, so your defense cannot be exposed when defending.

Also 3-5-2 and 4-3-3 formations are naturally counterattacking formations, which will favor very well "mas attack - mass defense" movement.

So you see, my strategy is well thought out,... You end up killing 3 birds by one stone.

If you try to play through the middle against an opponent stronger than you in the midfield, you will always meet brickwall.

Finally, i don't know why all of you riled up concerning my strategy because all the while we have been playing through the sidelines and wings, with mass attack - mass defense (which is the reason why teams struggle to play their game plan against us because we press them high up in their own half).

The only time tried to play through the middle by choking the midfield against Serbia, we all saw the results. We were beaten square and fair.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:16pm On May 08, 2018
forgiveness:



Awaziem is good but he is not a CB in my own estimation of his allround play.. He seems to be a midfielder and[b] I think he could perform more magic than Ndidi as a DMF [/b]which was his natural position before he was converted.
nawa for this ur assertion oo embarassed cry

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:25pm On May 08, 2018
Icon4s:


The coach didn't deploy Iwobi to the wings? Did he deploy himself there? He is free to roam from the wings is that not according to the coache's instructions?On Iheanacho putting in Duel's against Poland I cannot remember any through pass worthy of note as an AM in that game.
hehehehehe...This cracked me up
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:27pm On May 08, 2018
Humility017:

you're talking as if...he is in the same level with those players you mentioned...

without Moses the super eagles will win matches....him playing the wing back role is for the team and not for himself...

after all we not gonna play with that tactics in all matches just against teams like Croatia,Spain etc...when we need explore the wings and as well.choke the midfield.

Who is the best player in the Nigerian National team?

How many serious matches did you win without Victor Moses?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:28pm On May 08, 2018
Humility017:


we are not going to play 3-5-2 all the time...just certain games we play such...
you're talking as if without Moses on the pitch we not gonna win any world cup match...

if he can play that role for chelsea for close to 2 seasons why can't he play the wing back role for the super eagles just on few matches we play such...ebuehi can come in for him in the second half...if he burns out...

Moses can as well return to wings when we revert back to 4-2-3-1 team formation in other matches.....

so let's be flexible...

Haha, the way some of us propose formations. You don't play 4-5-1 in game 1, it works for you and you win the game and next game you switch to 3-5-2.

Instead what one can say is you start with 4-5-1 in a game and end up with 4-3-3, 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 depending on how the team faired during the course of the game.

National team coaches don't change starting formations per Match per match especially if you got a result with the formation for the previous game.

Talking also about bringing in Ebuehi when Moses burns out. I consider such more or less as a wasted substitution. You cannot be chasing a game and rather than making an attacking change like pulling out a midfielder, or a defender and introducing a striker or winger, you are changing WBs.

And if we are leading and you need to secure a result. You can pull out one of the forwards and introduce a midfielder or CB.

I can only change WBs, FBs or CB on the count of injuries or atrocious mistakes from the player involved.

And again on Moses, like you don't get our point. He is our most potent Winger. Why play him at WB?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:29pm On May 08, 2018
Icon4s:


It was a slip of the fingers. Henry Nwosu discovered Mikel but was sacked after the qualifiers and Eguavoen took the team to the 2003 U17 WC. No be so?
How do you know this. Were you the one that typed it?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:30pm On May 08, 2018
Humility017:

I trust rohr to go after him should the deal pulls through.... it is so sure some players in the super eagles really need up their games...otherwise many young guns may push them out....

I thought he changed his mind to play for Nigeria after Ebuehi success.

Anyway, I think it is good for the team if new players come into the fold to fight for a shirt.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:30pm On May 08, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
How do you know this. Were you the one that typed it?

I know the person that typed it too well to know her level of understanding of the game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:34pm On May 08, 2018
krattoss:
nawa for this ur assertion oo embarassed cry

Wetin do am?

I have watched Awaziem closely and I discovered he is also attack minded. In short, he knows how to shoot at goal and score with his head.

I think he is a box to box midfielder.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:43pm On May 08, 2018
realpoacher:


Bros calm down and understand my analysis...

My strategy is deceptive if you take it at face value.... If you literally follow the word "gift" then you will be lost. I think the word i should have used is "play through the sidelines and wings" whenever we have the possession.

Please try to understand the context... The context here is that whenever we have possession, we should take the ball to sidelines, from there we play to the wings before aiming for the goal. The key clause in my writeup indicates that we have to be in possession first before the idea of sidelines and wings come into play.

Now, i didn't say that our players should just stay put on the sidelines like stature while the Croats run riot.. No!!

But when we are not with possession, then we mark normally within the middle inorder to regain the ball.

Now if you read my first post about this strategy very well... You will notice that I suggested the formation that will suit this "gifting" of the midfield to Croatia which is the 3-5-2 formation. Naturally, 3-5-2 as a formation have already crowded your midfield by default, so your defense cannot be exposed when defending.

Also 3-5-2 and 4-3-3 formations are naturally counterattacking formations, which will favor very well "mas attack - mass defense" movement.

So you see, my strategy is well thought out,... You end up killing 3 birds by one stone.

If you try to play through the middle against an opponent stronger than you in the midfield, you will always meet brickwall.

Finally, i don't know why all of you riled up concerning my strategy because all the while we have been playing through the sidelines and wings, with mass attack - mass defense (which is the reason why teams struggle to play their game plan against us because we press them high up in their own half).

The only time tried to play through the middle by choking the midfield against Serbia, we all saw the results. We were beaten square and fair.


Still trying to find your point here with all due respect

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Petrobros: 7:43pm On May 08, 2018
realpoacher:


Bros calm down and understand my analysis...

My strategy is deceptive if you take it at face value.... If you literally follow the word "gift" then you will be lost. I think the word i should have used is "play through the sidelines and wings" whenever we have the possession.

Please try to understand the context... The context here is that whenever we have possession, we should take the ball to sidelines, from there we play to the wings before aiming for the goal. The key clause in my writeup indicates that we have to be in possession first before the idea of sidelines and wings come into play.

Now, i didn't say that our players should just stay put on the sidelines like stature while the Croats run riot.. No!!

But when we are not with possession, then we mark normally within the middle inorder to regain the ball.

Now if you read my first post about this strategy very well... You will notice that I suggested the formation that will suit this "gifting" of the midfield to Croatia which is the 3-5-2 formation. Naturally, 3-5-2 as a formation have already crowded your midfield by default, so your defense cannot be exposed when defending.

Also 3-5-2 and 4-3-3 formations are naturally counterattacking formations, which will favor very well "mas attack - mass defense" movement.

So you see, my strategy is well thought out,... You end up killing 3 birds by one stone.

If you try to play through the middle against an opponent stronger than you in the midfield, you will always meet brickwall.

Finally, i don't know why all of you riled up concerning my strategy because all the while we have been playing through the sidelines and wings, with mass attack - mass defense (which is the reason why teams struggle to play their game plan against us because we press them high up in their own half).

The only time tried to play through the middle by choking the midfield against Serbia, we all saw the results. We were beaten square and fair.


Oga, calm down.No be play station strategy we dey discuss here. Your opponent will always watch you as you move the ball to the sidelines? If you lose the midfield you also lose control of the sidelines.

Wake up! This is the national team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:45pm On May 08, 2018
forgiveness:


Wetin do am?

I have watched Awaziem closely and I discovered he is also attack minded. In short, he knows how to shoot at goal and score with his head.

I think he is a box to box midfielder.

In what time did awaziem played as a box to box MD?

or you don turn pep wey dey convert player ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Petrobros: 7:45pm On May 08, 2018
forgiveness:


Wetin do am?

I have watched Awaziem closely and I discovered he is also attack minded. In short, he knows how to shoot at goal and score with his head.

I think he is a box to box midfielder.

O pari.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Petrobros: 7:47pm On May 08, 2018
Icon4s:


Haha, the way some of us propose formations. You don't play 4-5-1 in game 1, it works for you and you win the game and next game you switch to 3-5-2.

Instead what one can say is you start with 4-5-1 in a game and end up with 4-3-3, 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 depending on how the team faired during the course of the game.

National team coaches don't change starting formations per Match per match especially if you got a result with the formation for the previous game.

Talking also about bringing in Ebuehi when Moses burns out. I consider such more or less as a wasted substitution. You cannot be chasing a game and rather than making an attacking change like pulling out a midfielder, or a defender and introducing a striker or winger, you are changing WBs.

And if we are leading and you need to secure a result. You can pull out one of the forwards and introduce a midfielder or CB.

I can only change WBs, FBs or CB on the count of injuries or atrocious mistakes from the player involved.

And again on Moses, like you don't get our point. He is our most potent Winger. Why play him at WB?

Always on point baba.

Your possession of coaching certificate is always evident.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:50pm On May 08, 2018
charlesemeka85:


hmmmmmm tough question i must confess grin grin grin grin grin
Make We kukuma bench am lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:50pm On May 08, 2018
Joebie:
#TransferRumors

Kingsley Ehizibue on the verge of joining a Bundesliga club
Heard he is waiting for a Dutch invite.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:57pm On May 08, 2018
Petrobros:

Always on point baba.
Your possession of coaching certificate is always evident.
This man, you yav crawled out again. Hahaha.
Thanks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:58pm On May 08, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Make We kukuma bench am lol
And bench Mikel too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 7:59pm On May 08, 2018
forgiveness:


The best player in the Nigeria National team today is Victor Moses. It's like saying Neymar or Ronaldo should play left back or right back for Brazil and Portugal respectively.
lol....Victor who? Sometimes, Kelechi even outshines him. Victor Moses is not our best player, Mikel Obi is.

We lose games without Mikel, Moses can be on the pitch and we will still lose. When last did we lose a game Mikel played?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:15pm On May 08, 2018
He's played for their junior national sides so that's expected.. if we don't approach him, we'd never know.

edi287:

Heard he is waiting for a Dutch invite.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:36pm On May 08, 2018
forgiveness:


The best player in the Nigeria National team today is Victor Moses. It's like saying Neymar or Ronaldo should play left back or right back for Brazil and Portugal respectively.

It is not like saying that because those guys have no recent experience at that position. I don't get what the fuss is at left back Marcelo is still super offensive and so can Victor even more than Chelsea
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:38pm On May 08, 2018
andrew444:


In what time did awaziem played as a box to box MD?

or you don turn pep wey dey convert player ?

He started out as a DMF.

6 Awaziem can play in central defence or defensive midfielder. “I will play wherever the coach wants me to play to help the team,” he says

http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2017/06/10/10-things-we-need-to-know-about-eagles-new-boy-chidozie-awaziem/


This calmness carries over into his passing, which is tidy and calm; he's no Beckenbauer, but his distribution is reliable. No doubt, it helps that he was originally a defensive midfielder, and whereas his passing may have been considered limited in that position, it is very good for a centre-back.
http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/4079/features/2016/04/14/22273972/portos-chidozie-awaziem-deserves-olympic-chance

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:47pm On May 08, 2018
Joebie:
Aina rugged wetin Komekn u and I know say na only Echiejile Aina fit compete with for that team. U can’t even lie that he’s been outsounding this season.

Joebie,Aina not outstanding?with over 45 appearances and still counting this season wiith MOTM and making team of the week several time.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:51pm On May 08, 2018
who made TOTW for the week's he didn't? If he is the best RB in the Championship I'm sure Wolves or Cadiff would be interested in loaning him from Chelsea for next season. I doubt he's considered among the top 3 right backs in the Championship.

Modified
Sir you have seen him play.. would u describe him as rugged?

Kog45:
Joebie,Aina not outstanding?with over 45 appearances and still counting this season wiith MOTM and making team of the week several time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:52pm On May 08, 2018
Icon4s:


Haha, the way some of us propose formations. You don't play 4-5-1 in game 1, it works for you and you win the game and next game you switch to 3-5-2.

Instead what one can say is you start with 4-5-1 in a game and end up with 4-3-3, 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 depending on how the team faired during the course of the game.

National team coaches don't change starting formations per Match per match especially if you got a result with the formation for the previous game.

Talking also about bringing in Ebuehi when Moses burns out. I consider such more or less as a wasted substitution. You cannot be chasing a game and rather than making an attacking change like pulling out a midfielder, or a defender and introducing a striker or winger, you are changing WBs.

And if we are leading and you need to secure a result. You can pull out one of the forwards and introduce a midfielder or CB.

I can only change WBs, FBs or CB on the count of injuries or atrocious mistakes from the player involved.

And again on Moses, like you don't get our point. He is our most potent Winger. Why play him at WB?
Thank you Chief,how on earth will Moses play as WB when we have Ebuehi

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:59pm On May 08, 2018
Joebie:
who made TOTW for the week's he didn't? If he is the best RB in the Championship I'm sure Wolves or Cadiff would be interested in loaning him from Chelsea for next season. I doubt he's considered among the top 3 right backs in the Championship.

Modified
Sir you have seen him play.. would u describe him as rugged?


I have seen him play up close and personal and he us strong, rugged and tenacious.

You really can not compare him to Ebuehi or Shehu because he has not played in the RB position for Nigeria to make a fair comparison.

Ola Aina is arguably the best RB in the championship.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:00pm On May 08, 2018
Joebie:
who made TOTW for the week's he didn't? If he is the best RB in the Championship I'm sure Wolves or Cadiff would be interested in loaning him from Chelsea for next season. I doubt he's considered among the top 3 right backs in the Championship.

Sir did you read my comment very well cos my point is about not outstanding.A player had over 45 appearances for his club and you said is not outstanding.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:01pm On May 08, 2018
safarigirl:
lol....Victor who? Sometimes, Kelechi even outshines him. Victor Moses is not our best player, Mikel Obi is.

We lose games without Mikel, Moses can be on the pitch and we will still lose. When last did we lose a game Mikel played?

In which match did Iheanacho outshined Victor Moses?

Mikel Obi is important too. However, Victor can single handedly change a game. We have seen that several times.

Can you please tell me the match we lost with Victor on the pitch?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:04pm On May 08, 2018
It's expected na.. no be second tier league grin

Modified
Did Hull City finish in the top 10 of the Championship table? I'll have to confirm

Kog45:
Sir did you read my comment very well cos my point is about not outstanding.A player had over 45 appearances for his club and you said is not outstanding.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:08pm On May 08, 2018
About 80 minutes gone. Waregem lead Waasland 7-0
Olayinka scored the opener

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:10pm On May 08, 2018
Joebie:
It's expected na.. no be second tier league grin

Modified
Did Hull City finish in the top 10 of the Championship table? I'll have to confirm

Sir am sorry,you are taking it to another level,so let me stop here.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:18pm On May 08, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Or don't you think that if Moses plays as wingback he'll have very limited chance to initiate or orchestrate attack, which we all know he's the only one why has such ability? He'll have very limited time in the opponent's goal area. Those driving runs and final balls that confuse and unsettle defenders... Its very vital bro
When Rohr no dey craze Moses as WB,pls is Ebuehi not going to WC that Moses will play as WB.

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