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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 4:41pm On May 08, 2018
For his sake, Martial should leave because he's playing for a manager who doesn't believe in him and who wont develop him.

I'm a huge fan of Martial but its not going to work with Jose. Jose clearly doesn't fancy him so its best he goes where his talents can be appreciated and developed. I'll be sad to see him go.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:46pm On May 08, 2018
MRTA7:
For his sake, Martial should leave because he's playing for a manager who doesn't believe in him and who wont develop him.

I'm a huge fan of Martial but its not going to work with Jose. Jose clearly doesn't fancy him so its best he goes where his talents can be appreciated and developed. I'll be sad to see him go.
Well said. Instead of all these he should learn to play left back, he is lazy stuff people are peddling about just sell him
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:57pm On May 08, 2018
MRTA7:
For his sake, Martial should leave because he's playing for a manager who doesn't believe in him and who wont develop him.

I'm a huge fan of Martial but its not going to work with Jose. Jose clearly doesn't fancy him so its best he goes where his talents can be appreciated and developed. I'll be sad to see him go.
Correct. Thumbs up.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 5:32pm On May 08, 2018
Because one player can play several positions and give decent performances does not mean the other player must be able to do so.

When a coach asks a player to play a different position from where he originally plays its because the coach has seen something in that player that he feels he would be able yo do it.

Asking a matic to be a center forward is either the coach is blind or a whole lotta players are dead for it to fall on magic. grin

Martial should fight for his position except he is saying Mourinho no like him face or doing tribalism or mourinho and Sanchez are in the same denomination in churh grin hence the favouritism.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:18pm On May 08, 2018
codedguy1:
Because one player can play several positions and give decent performances does not mean the other player must be able to do so.

When a coach asks a player to play a different position from where he originally plays its because the coach has seen something in that player that he feels he would be able yo do it.

Asking a matic to be a center forward is either the coach is blind or a whole lotta players are dead for it to fall on magic. grin

Martial should fight for his position except he is saying Mourinho no like him face or doing tribalism or mourinho and Sanchez are in the same denomination in churh grin hence the favouritism.
dats d truth. No be everybody fit play different roles.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:44pm On May 08, 2018
raumdeuter:
Well said. Instead of all these he should learn to play left back, he is lazy stuff people are peddling about just sell him
List the people who said Martial should learn how to play left back.

You go just dey shuk mouth for matter anyhow
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:50pm On May 08, 2018
odizeey:
dats d truth. No be everybody fit play different roles.
Codedguy1

Can Martial play RW? Or any other attacking position?

I don't know what the problem is. This matter is simple. Whoever performs best in a position should play that position.

If Martial causes more damage from the left side, Martial should play there and Sanchez should go to RW or AM. And vice versa.

Wherever you find yourself in the team, try to create, assist or score goals from there instead of sulking that someone ousted you from your position. Sulking and being lackadaisical won't get you back that position. Unless you want to leave.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:58pm On May 08, 2018
I know I didn't fancy Sanchez's arrival because he might disrupt things, especially with Rashford and Martial. I remember stating clearly that he should be on the RW unless he can provide a goal or assist per match at LW.

But he's here already and Jose clearly prefers him on the left. This shouldn't stop Antony Martial from performing whenever he plays.

That's the best way to heap coals on Mourinho's head. He'd be a fool not to start him. And whatever happened to swapping positions?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by stylochime: 10:39pm On May 08, 2018
raumdeuter:
Yes Messi should be played in central defence and Matic should be played in center forward.

Why has Alexis not been sent to right back

I wonder why Mourinho didn't think of the genius idea to try Pogba as striker when Lukaku was struggling
You are just being unecessarily obtuse! Did Mou play Martial in midfield abi defence? Stop talking like little child.
Messi has played as a striker a wingereven as a midfielder. CR7 has played across the forward line from left to right. Sane has played left and right wing. Raheem sterling started his carreer as a no10. Harzard has been deployed as loan striker. De Bruyne plays as box to box cm under pep. Giggs! A winger has played as CM under SAF. The list is freaking endless. Jose didn‘t deploy Martial a wingback. He just shifted the boy from left to right.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 10:50pm On May 08, 2018
Leyqute:
Codedguy1

Can Martial play RW? Or any other attacking position?

I don't know what the problem is. This matter is simple. Whoever performs best in a position should play that position.

If Martial causes more damage from the left side, Martial should play there and Sanchez should go to RW or AM. And vice versa.

Wherever you find yourself in the team, try to create, assist or score goals from there instead of sulking that someone ousted you from your position. Sulking and being lackadaisical won't get you back that position. Unless you want to leave.
I can't really answer those your questions.

But let me say something maybe it will help.

As a coach, before I tell a player to go play a position that is probably not his main or comfortable position it is believed that I expect or believe he will at least give a decent performance, it does not have to be perfect but at least I expect he puts in a shift.

As a player if my coach asks me to play an unfamiliar position I will psych myself to do my best there and stop sulking or complaining.

The first statement is for Mourinho, why is he playing martial on the right? To accommodate Sanchez, because he gast to play him somewhere, because he believes martial can do a good job there etc only mou can answer that question, remember this is a RW where almost everyone has played from martial, sanchez, rashford, mata, Lingard, Lukaku, i coulda sworn i saw de gea there at some point. We as fans are hoping against hope that oga Mourinho will somehow get a proper RW player to help reduce our bp levels whenever we see people like pogba showboating in the RW grin

The 2nd statement is for martial who clearly feels he must play because he is martial and when played out of his normal position starts to sulk instead of taking it as a challenge.

My conclusion both Mourinho and martial need to be flogged. Mourinho more.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:30pm On May 08, 2018
Does anyone remeber my last 3 recent accounts...Mans wanna post in a section but the anti-spam bot is being rather foolish.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pharod(m): 5:12am On May 09, 2018
codedguy1:
I can't really answer those your questions.

But let me say something maybe it will help.

As a coach, before I tell a player to go play a position that is probably not his main or comfortable position it is believed that I expect or believe he will at least give a decent performance, it does not have to be perfect but at least I expect he puts in a shift.

As a player if my coach asks me to play an unfamiliar position I will psych myself to do my best there and stop sulking or complaining.

The first statement is for Mourinho, why is he playing martial on the right? To accommodate Sanchez, because he gast to play him somewhere, because he believes martial can do a good job there etc only mou can answer that question, remember this is a RW where almost everyone has played from martial, sanchez, rashford, mata, Lingard, Lukaku, i coulda sworn i saw de gea there at some point. We as fans are hoping against hope that oga Mourinho will somehow get a proper RW player to help reduce our bp levels whenever we see people like pogba showboating in the RW grin

The 2nd statement is for martial who clearly feels he must play because he is martial and when played out of his normal position starts to sulk instead of taking it as a challenge.

My conclusion both Mourinho and martial need to be flogged. Mourinho more.
grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Cadec007(m): 6:15am On May 09, 2018
Oasis007:
We may not need to spend on the Full-backs if Mou can trust and develop Mensah and Mitchell. They are as talented as Arnold and Robertson of Liverpool.

Andreas Perreira plays much as a RW at Valencia. I hope Mou can trust him (as a backup though) and perhaps try him out in the Position during the Pre-Season Games.

Savic gonna be a great Addition in my Opinion, but I'm more concerned with United getting a solid DM. Matic is ageing, hence needs a replacement asap, except Mou gonna fully convert Herrera to a DM.
thats y we needed that fabinho of a guy but sha my 2nd team snapped him up
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Cadec007(m): 6:32am On May 09, 2018
slimghost:
Chineke Nna! Guys, are we talking about the same Martial that was our best player over 7 matches before we signed Mercenary Sanchez?

Chai! I don't even know what to type again. I don't pray he leaves us but I think it's important so we can finally see how good this boy can be under a good manager.
Was Martial lazy under LVG? All of a sudden he is now lazy because we have a scam as a manager. An Idiot that always shifts blames to his players.

Was this not the same Martial that the scam took his shirt number without informing him? who does that?.

Between Martial and the special scam, I will choose Martial anyday anytime.
when i called sanchez a mercenary, u needed to see how all the kings, lords, emperors, and generals where shooting kalashinov, RPGs at me brother!! Backup were even coming with merkava iv tanks!!!! I had to raise my white singlet to appease the angry landowners.......anyways now i stand by my word! Sanchez is a mercenary, what has he contributed since that the axed martial wouldn't have done? SANCHEZ ISSA MERCENARY AND HE BROUGHT INSTABILITY TO THE CANTONEMENT!!!!! U can shoot at random
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Cadec007(m): 6:41am On May 09, 2018
GloryIsaac:
Don't misunderstand my stance on this. Since Mou keeps wailing about the quality of players available to him, then he should be allowed to sell and renew whoever he wants. That way, any success or mishap would solely be on him.
On the flip side, if I was in Martials shoes, I would leave, it's not like as if what Mou is doing is new to anyone... The bus, the blame game, taking shots at coaches etc. KDB left, Salah left, even Lukaku left....
If Martial is really serious about his personal ambition, then it's best he leaves. E go pain me but that's the best logical decision he can take.
Even Luke Shaw should pack out, all these blame game is nauseating..
Let Mou get the players he wants and kick out those he doesn't instead of this stupid back and forth talks..
i dont know if he realizes but he is destabilizing his players mentally and emotionally
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Cadec007(m): 6:42am On May 09, 2018
slimghost:
Allowing the special scam a free hand means Man Utd turning into into a 'father christmas' club for mercenaries. The scam will just flood the team with mercenaries, probably win the league,leave and then we start rebuilding afresh.
exactly!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m):
Honestly, I'm really pitying Martial coz it seems the Lad doesn't know what's good for him. He's at his developmental Stage unlike Sanchez who has reached his Peak already.

Mou asking him to play on the right Wing is simply doing him a huge favor to become a world-class Attacker, however he's failing himself not the Fans or the Club for reluctantly making attempt to grab the Opportunity.

Sane and Sterling can conveniently play on the either Wings, they ain't crying upandan that; I'm only programmed to be played on a particular Position like a Robot. How old is he ffs?! Martial needs to wake up, before he ends up a waste Talent.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 6:53am On May 09, 2018
Zizou played Lucas Vasquez as a RB twice, yet the Lad did his best to adjust and play well. Is Lucas a defensive-minded Player?!

Fans should stop pampering Martial because of his Talent. What's the Essence of Crude Oil that ain't drilled, processed and probably refined to boosting the Economy of a Nation?!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:19am On May 09, 2018
Oasis007:
Zizou played Lucas Vasquez as a RB twice, yet the Lad did his best to adjust and play well. Is Lucas a defensive-minded Player?!

Fans should stop pampering Martial because of his Talent. What's the Essence of Crude Oil that ain't drilled, processed and probably refined to boosting the Economy of a Nation?!
when did he say he can't play RW sef. How many chances has he been given to prove himself?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 7:21am On May 09, 2018
Oasis007:
Zizou played Lucas Vasquez as a RB twice, yet the Lad did his best to adjust and play well. Is Lucas a defensive-minded Player?!

Fans should stop pampering Martial because of his Talent. What's the Essence of Crude Oil that ain't drilled, processed and probably refined to boosting the Economy of a Nation?!
Allow them na .i remember a match where Di Maria played lb at Madrid against Sevilla ND he didn't complain... Martial is asked to play on the rw,still an attacking role oo..but he's sulking.. How did ronaldo get to where he's at now.. Was it not by alternating wings? Mou likes his wingers to have that ability to switch positions at intervals to make them less predictable, but no, we should pamper players..

Great players are not made by their talents, but their cojones
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:26am On May 09, 2018
Before you crucify him. How many trials has he had on d right to develop himself there.? I need an answer please.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:31am On May 09, 2018
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/10037483/man-utd-boss-van-gaal-hails-anthony-martials-versatility.

Even lvg hailed his versatility. The problem is if Mourinho will guve him d chance to prove himself.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:34am On May 09, 2018
codedguy1:
I can't really answer those your questions.

But let me say something maybe it will help.
.

My conclusion both Mourinho and martial need to be flogged. Mourinho more.
LMAO. grin

We're on the same page.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:15am On May 09, 2018
odizeey:
when did he say he can't play RW sef. How many chances has he been given to prove himself?
grin

Are you a Learner?! Don't you know Action speaks louder than Voice?! His Lackadaisical, Lackluster Performance anytime he plays on the RW has said it all.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m):
dubylhover:
Allow them na .i remember a match where Di Maria played lb at Madrid against Sevilla ND he didn't complain... Martial is asked to play on the rw,still an attacking role oo..but he's sulking.. How did ronaldo get to where he's at now.. Was it not by alternating wings? Mou likes his wingers to have that ability to switch positions at intervals to make them less predictable, but no, we should pamper players..

Great players are not made by their talents, but their cojones
cheesy


The Lad thinks Talent alone can earn him Balon D'Or. Messi can play across the Attacking Lines as well as the AM same as Ronaldo, coz they build their selves professionally and do adjust to Managers' Instructions.

We love him, but he shouldn't let the hype get to his Head, rather he should train harder, hone his Skills sharply and professionally to become a World-Beater.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:27am On May 09, 2018
The thing is if Sanchez came into the team and started doing so well, even Martial would've accepted inside him that he was being benched for a superior player but Sanchez came and wasn't playing well by any standard but Mourinho stuck with him, something he wouldn't do for a Martial or a Shaw.
It is very frustrating when your efforts are not appreciated, even in our respective place of work, we'd feel really bad if a new guy comes in and is chosen to lead the team you once led even when he is not as efficient as you.
Mourinho is far from fair in this game, his presser after the Brighton match was more of one of a coach who was hoping Martial and Rashford have bad games just so he use the 'I told you so' line, that's petty, really petty.
Finally, Martial has regressed, Shaw has regressed, Rashford has regressed, Pogba same, even Lukaku's number has dropped only Lingard, Young have improved under Mourinho and this is about 2 of the most technically limited players players in the squad, it gives credence to the school of thought that posites that "Mou is a very mechanical coach" he prefer brawn to brain...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:32am On May 09, 2018
patrickmuf:
The thing is if Sanchez came into the team and started doing so well, even Martial would've accepted inside him that he was being benched for a superior player but Sanchez came and wasn't playing well by any standard but Mourinho stuck with him, something he wouldn't do for a Martial or a Shaw.
It is very frustrating when your efforts are not appreciated, even in our respective place of work, we'd feel really bad if a new guy comes in and is chosen to lead the team you once led even when he is not as efficient as you.
Mourinho is far from fair in this game, his presser after the Brighton match was more of one of a coach who was hoping Martial and Rashford have bad games just so he use the 'I told you so' line, that's petty, really petty.
Bro..... we ain't defending Mou's stupidity in Players Management. We all agree Mou is a capital Cùnt when it comes to man-management, but that shouldn't weaken the Morale of Martial.

He's a professional, his Career is gonna be at Stake if he lets it get to him, hence he should stop acting like a Sore-dick. He should keep fighting and anytime he gets opportunity on either Wings, he should endeavor to give 100%.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:39am On May 09, 2018
Oasis007:
Bro..... we ain't defending Mou's stupidity in Players Management. We all agree Mou is a capital Cùnt when it comes to man-management, but that shouldn't weaken the Morale of Martial.

He's a professional, his Career is gonna be at Stake if he lets it get to him, hence he should stop acting like a Sore-dick. He should keep fighting and anytime he gets opportunity on either Wings, he should endeavor to give 100%.
It's easy to sit wherever you are and say he should keep fighting, if only you know how it feels...Those who have experienced anything of this sort in their place of work will tell you better.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 9:03am On May 09, 2018
patrickmuf:
It's easy to sit wherever you are and say he should keep fighting, if only you know how it feels...Those who have experienced anything of this sort in their place of work will tell you better.
grin


Dude..... some of us wanted Science Class but we ended up either in Art or Commercial Class, yet we didn't let it get to us.

Lol!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:10am On May 09, 2018
Exactly. @oasis

When you're dealt with lemon, make lemonade.

Doing otherwise won't help you get where you want to be.

Na d koko wey we dey yarn be this. MartialFC players, shey una dey hear.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 9:12am On May 09, 2018
patrickmuf:
[s] The thing is if Sanchez came into the team and started doing so well, even Martial would've accepted inside him that he was being benched for a superior player but Sanchez came and wasn't playing well by any standard but Mourinho stuck with him, something he wouldn't do for a Martial or a Shaw.
It is very frustrating when your efforts are not appreciated, even in our respective place of work, we'd feel really bad if a new guy comes in and is chosen to lead the team you once led even when he is not as efficient as you.
Mourinho is far from fair in this game, his presser after the Brighton match was more of one of a coach who was hoping Martial and Rashford have bad games just so he use the 'I told you so' line, that's petty, really petty.
Finally, Martial has regressed, Shaw has regressed, Rashford has regressed, Pogba same, even Lukaku's number has dropped only Lingard, Young have improved under Mourinho and this is about 2 of the most technically limited players players in the squad, it gives credence to the school of thought that posites that "Mou is a very mechanical coach" he prefer brawn to brain..[/s]
as usual. undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:21am On May 09, 2018
weedtaker:
as usual. undecided
You don't exist.
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