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Riofidelio:
Hmmmmmmmmm You said "Jesus' instructions NEVER change" are you talking about the same Jesus of Nazareth or the imaginary Jesus that some people formed? Remember it's each time He says something NEW that His followers start trying to practice it immediately,of course observers will surely notice that they're changing operations and those who can't cope amongst His followers will walk away! John 6:64-68 Moreover He's instructions at Matthew 10:10 and Luke 22:35,36 differs! Satan and his demons are targeting Christians my friend so Jesus do give NEW orders CHANGING OPERATIONS to confuse these unseen predators,so any sheep that fails to listen to the voice of the Shepherd is on his/her own. John 10:27

how did people walking away from the truth means Jesus standard changed? Dey simply were not able to take his standard. Can you point the standard dat changed

Riofidelio:
Hmmmmmmmmm i pray that you get a faithful man to hook up to one day so that you'll be happily spending time with your husband,children,work,friends and ministry(if you're also preaching and teaching like true Christians) perhaps by then you'll not be spending 90% of your time on social media again.

is it your spend? Am sure you box ur wife into one corner and she isn't free to do anything while you spend ur own time online too. Well we have heard about how women are oppressed in ur society so am not surprised

Riofidelio:
Jesus' sheep are one throughout the Earth,they speak in one accord,preaching and teaching the same thing. They can't recognize themselves by face but by faith as they're all taking the same orders from the same King! Hebrews 10:38

and dat King is the GB shay?

Salvation102:
hahaha. I don forget say na back of school u go
John the beloved d last apostle died in 98AD. Meaning Holy Spirit stopped using men in 98AD according to ur doctrine. 150AD is 52 years after and dat was wen d first compilation consisting of how many books.. (am just pretending like i agree with you ni oo. But u need to drop a link to where you got dat ir info from).

Here is whats wiki says.
The development of the New Testament canon was, like that of the Old Testament, a gradual process.

Irenaeus (died c. 202) quotes and cites 21 books that would end up as part of the New Testament, but does not use Philemon, Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 3 John and Jude.[4] By the early 3rd century Origen of Alexandria may have been using the same 27 books as in the modern New Testament, though there were still disputes over the canonicity of Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, and Revelation[5] (see also Antilegomena). Likewise by 200 the Muratorian fragment shows that there existed a set of Christian writings somewhat similar to what is now the New Testament, which included four gospels and argued against objections to them.[6] Thus, while there was plenty of discussion in the Early Church over the New Testament canon, the "major" writings were accepted by almost all Christian authorities by the middle of the second century.[7]

The next two hundred years followed a similar process of continual discussion throughout the entire Church, and localized refinements of acceptance. This process was not yet complete at the time of the First Council of Nicaea in 325, though substantial progress had been made by then. Though a list was clearly necessary to fulfill Constantine's commission in 331 of fifty copies of the Bible for the Church at Constantinople, no concrete evidence exists to indicate that it was considered to be a formal canon. In the absence of a canonical list, the resolution of questions would normally have been directed through the see of Constantinople, in consultation with Bishop Eusebius of Caesarea (who was given the commission), and perhaps other bishops who were available locally.

In his Easter letter of 367, Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, gave a list of exactly the same books that would formally become the New Testament canon,[8] and he used the word "canonized" (kanonizomena) in regard to them.[9] The first council that accepted the present Catholic canon (the Canon of Trent) may have been the Synod of Hippo Regius in North Africa (393). The acts of this council, however, are lost. A brief summary of the acts was read at and accepted by the Council of Carthage (397) and the Council of Carthage (419).[10] These councils took place under the authority of St. Augustine, who regarded the canon as already closed.[11] Pope Damasus I's Council of Rome in 382, if the Decretum Gelasianum is correctly associated with it, issued a biblical canon identical to that mentioned above,[8] or if not the list is at least a 6th-century compilation[12] claiming a 4th-century imprimatur.[13] Likewise, Damasus's commissioning of the Latin Vulgate edition of the Bible, c. 383, was instrumental in the fixation of the canon in the West.[14] In 405, Pope Innocent I sent a list of the sacred books to a Gallic bishop, Exsuperius of Toulouse. When these bishops and councils spoke on the matter, however, they were not defining something new, but instead "were ratifying what had already become the mind of the church."[15] Thus, from the 5th century onward, the Western Church was unanimous concerning the New Testament canon.[16]

The last book to be accepted universally was the Book of Revelation, though with time all the Eastern Church also agreed. Thus, by the 5th century, both the Western and Eastern churches had come into agreement on the matter of the New Testament canon.[17] The Council of Trent of 1546 reaffirmed that finalization for Catholicism in the wake of the Protestant Reformation.[18] The Thirty-Nine Articles of 1563 for the Church of England and the Westminster Confession of Faith of 1647 for English Calvinism established the official finalizations for those new branches of Christianity in light of the break with Rome. The Synod of Jerusalem of 1672 made no changes to the New Testament canon for any Orthodox, but resolved some questions about some of the minor Old Testament books for the Greek Orthodox and most other Orthodox jurisdictions (who chose to accept it).

Pentecostal brainwashing is achieved by blindly working to answer. From 100 CE the true Christians always knew the canon of the holy writings! It was not compiled for them by apostates. A state church in 400AD can start adopting positions as Church positions but this does not confer them with compiling authority for true Christians. Even during the prophesied era apostatizing, individual members that your forefathers persecuted disagreed with state church and continued preaching the truth! The canon of what to accept or what lies outside is not the dictation of some popes or bishops or holy fathers as you were brainwashed to to howl.

Now that you have revealed your non christian governing body of Wikipedia OR
shall I say your independent apostles of history on Wikipedia OR
your Unbiased controllers of faith and doctrines - ...... does this not show that you have been misled by the digital media giants

All your unbiased reporting are from the following references - Ode


Herbermann, Charles George (1908). The Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Robert Appleton Company,. pp. 272, 273. ISBN 978-1174601828. Retrieved 15 January 2017.
Reid, George. "Canon of the Old Testament". Catholic Encyclopedia. New Advent. Retrieved 15 January 2017.
These are one book in the Jewish Bible, called "Trei Asar" or "Twelve".
Bruce, F. F. The Books and the Parchments. (Fleming H. Revell Company, 1963) p. 109.
Both points taken from Mark A. Noll's Turning Points, (Baker Academic, 1997) pp. 36–37.
H. J. De Jonge, "The New Testament Canon", in The Biblical Canons. eds. de Jonge & J. M. Auwers (Leuven University Press, 2003) p. 315.
The Cambridge History of the Bible (volume 1) eds. P. R. Ackroyd and C. F. Evans (Cambridge University Press, 1970) p. 308.
Lindberg, Carter (2006). A Brief History of Christianity. Blackwell Publishing. p. 15. ISBN 1-4051-1078-3.
Brakke, David (October 1994). "Canon Formation and Social Conflict in Fourth-Century Egypt: Athanasius of Alexandria's Thirty-Ninth 'Festal Letter'". The Harvard Theological Review. 87 (4): 395–419. JSTOR 1509966.
McDonald & Sanders' The Canon Debate, Appendix D-2, note 19: "Revelation was added later in 419 at the subsequent synod of Carthage."
Everett Ferguson, "Factors leading to the Selection and Closure of the New Testament Canon", in The Canon Debate. eds. L. M. McDonald & J. A. Sanders (Hendrickson, 2002) p. 320; F. F. Bruce, The Canon of Scripture (Intervarsity Press, 1988) p. 230; cf. Augustine, De Civitate Dei 22.8
F. F. Bruce, The Canon of Scripture (Intervarsity Press, 1988) p. 234
Burkitt, F. C. (1913). "The Decretum Gelasianum". Journal of Theological Studies. 14: 469–471. Retrieved 2015-08-12.
F. F. Bruce, The Canon of Scripture (Intervarsity Press, 1988) p. 225
Everett Ferguson, "Factors leading to the Selection and Closure of the New Testament Canon", in The Canon Debate. eds. L. M. McDonald & J. A. Sanders (Hendrickson, 2002) p. 320, which cites: Bruce Metzger, The Canon of the New Testament: Its Origins, Development, and Significance (Oxford: Clarendon, 1987) pp. 237–238, and F. F. Bruce, The Canon of Scripture (Intervarsity Press, 1988) p. 97
F. F. Bruce, The Canon of Scripture (Intervarsity Press, 1988) p. 215
The Cambridge History of the Bible (volume 1) eds. P. R. Ackroyd and C. F. Evans (Cambridge University Press, 1970) p. 305; cf. the Catholic Encyclopedia, "Canon of the New Testament"
Catholic Encyclopedia,

Salvation102:
i asked a question wch you cannot answer. There is crisis in the north east. What has ur so called pure religion done to help those people who have been displayed by the war or helping those in need of help isn't part of your pure worship or you are waiting for God to tell ur governing body before you send help to the displaced people?
You have sworn a oath to not carry gun, but you know how to run to police wen u have disagreement with ur neighbors . Who is deceiving who. Yeye ppl

Your VP is a pastor in the RCCG and many members of your church are currently in several security apparatus in Nigeria and would know it if the government of the FRN is busy persecuting members of any church. The churches are only complaining about the seeming lack of protection given to the citizens, mosques and churches

The same way ISIS say its persecuting Christians when convenient, but kills off everyone in sight from Afghanistan to Syria - end times are here and the devil will use whatever method to remove peace from the earth.....

In this thread the question is about a constituted authority persecuting its citizens or a government becoming paranoid about its citizens...only very few big religious organizations are persecuted in that way...others just melt.

Your churches have so much battered image from God and from men that your religion is called the-opium-of-the-people and many have become atheist and your history is filled with blood.

During the Nigeria Civil war your pastors of northern origin in the North melted away while the igbos and others were slaughtered and Gowon the man behind the massacre during the war is now one of your singing pastor. Everyone finds solace in the blood-filled church of demons - Ode

CAN collected 40 million from PMB

Salvation102:
no Pentecostal will claim dey determined d canon ooo. But we would not also try to rewrite history . We didn't determine the canon, we accept it as an authority and we believe Holy Spirit used the men who compiled it as he is still using men today. Miracle still happens cos our God we serve is God of miracle

Governing Body Disgraced in Miracle Event:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQnI4eoSvwo

God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO

This is the only instance where miracles occurred in the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQnI4eoSvwo

Salvation102:
no Pentecostal will claim dey determined d canon ooo. But we would not also try to rewrite history . We didn't determine the canon, we accept it as an authority and we believe Holy Spirit used the men who compiled it as he is still using men today. Miracle still happens cos our God we serve is God of miracle

no Church should claim dey determined d canon ooo.

enimooko:
Pentecostal brainwashing is achieved by blindly working to answer. From 100 CE the true Christians always knew the canon of the holy writings! It was not compiled for them by apostates. A state church in 400AD can start adopting positions as Church positions but this does not confer them with compiling authority for true Christians. Even during the prophesied era apostatizing, individual members that your forefathers persecuted disagreed with state church and continued preaching the truth! The canon of what to accept or what lies outside is not the dictation of some popes or bishops or holy fathers as you were brainwashed to to howl.

Now that you have revealed your non christian governing body of Wikipedia OR
shall I say your independent apostles of history on Wikipedia OR
your Unbiased controllers of faith and doctrines - ...... does this not show that you have been misled by the digital media giants

All your unbiased reporting are from the following references - Ode


Herbermann, Charles George (1908). The Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Robert Appleton Company,. pp. 272, 273. ISBN 978-1174601828. Retrieved 15 January 2017.
Reid, George. "Canon of the Old Testament". Catholic Encyclopedia. New Advent. Retrieved 15 January 2017.
These are one book in the Jewish Bible, called "Trei Asar" or "Twelve".
Bruce, F. F. The Books and the Parchments. (Fleming H. Revell Company, 1963) p. 109.
Both points taken from Mark A. Noll's Turning Points, (Baker Academic, 1997) pp. 36–37.
H. J. De Jonge, "The New Testament Canon", in The Biblical Canons. eds. de Jonge & J. M. Auwers (Leuven University Press, 2003) p. 315.
The Cambridge History of the Bible (volume 1) eds. P. R. Ackroyd and C. F. Evans (Cambridge University Press, 1970) p. 308.
Lindberg, Carter (2006). A Brief History of Christianity. Blackwell Publishing. p. 15. ISBN 1-4051-1078-3.
Brakke, David (October 1994). "Canon Formation and Social Conflict in Fourth-Century Egypt: Athanasius of Alexandria's Thirty-Ninth 'Festal Letter'". The Harvard Theological Review. 87 (4): 395–419. JSTOR 1509966.
McDonald & Sanders' The Canon Debate, Appendix D-2, note 19: "Revelation was added later in 419 at the subsequent synod of Carthage."
Everett Ferguson, "Factors leading to the Selection and Closure of the New Testament Canon", in The Canon Debate. eds. L. M. McDonald & J. A. Sanders (Hendrickson, 2002) p. 320; F. F. Bruce, The Canon of Scripture (Intervarsity Press, 1988) p. 230; cf. Augustine, De Civitate Dei 22.8
F. F. Bruce, The Canon of Scripture (Intervarsity Press, 1988) p. 234
Burkitt, F. C. (1913). "The Decretum Gelasianum". Journal of Theological Studies. 14: 469–471. Retrieved 2015-08-12.
F. F. Bruce, The Canon of Scripture (Intervarsity Press, 1988) p. 225
Everett Ferguson, "Factors leading to the Selection and Closure of the New Testament Canon", in The Canon Debate. eds. L. M. McDonald & J. A. Sanders (Hendrickson, 2002) p. 320, which cites: Bruce Metzger, The Canon of the New Testament: Its Origins, Development, and Significance (Oxford: Clarendon, 1987) pp. 237–238, and F. F. Bruce, The Canon of Scripture (Intervarsity Press, 1988) p. 97
F. F. Bruce, The Canon of Scripture (Intervarsity Press, 1988) p. 215
The Cambridge History of the Bible (volume 1) eds. P. R. Ackroyd and C. F. Evans (Cambridge University Press, 1970) p. 305; cf. the Catholic Encyclopedia, "Canon of the New Testament"
Catholic Encyclopedia,

wow, dis one seems braindead ooo. U will even argue with evidence set before you yet you are yet to provide the sources to ur claim.
Perhaps ur eyes were too blind to see d academic references from Cambridge. Or maybe a church bribed dem to twist it
Ur actually a dullard, probably like ur buhari .. Go and ask ur society members the canon of scripture dey are using if its not the Council of Carthage canon

enimooko:
Your VP is a pastor in the RCCG and many members of your church are currently in several security apparatus in Nigeria and would know it if the government of the FRN is busy persecuting members of any church. The churches are only complaining about the seeming lack of protection given to the citizens, mosques and churches

The same way ISIS say its persecuting Christians when convenient, but kills off everyone in sight from Afghanistan to Syria - end times are here and the devil will use whatever method to remove peace from the earth.....

In this thread the question is about a constituted authority persecuting its citizens or a government becoming paranoid about its citizens...only very few big religious organizations are persecuted in that way...others just melt.

Your churches have so much battered image from God and from men that your religion is called the-opium-of-the-people and many have become atheist and your history is filled with blood.

During the Nigeria Civil war your pastors of northern origin in the North melted away while the igbos and others were slaughtered and Gowon the man behind the massacre during the war is now one of your singing pastor. Everyone finds solace in the blood-filled church of demons - Ode

CAN collected 40 million from PMB

its actually been proven from my last post dat ur a dullard . Someone dat can't reason independently, is dat one even qualified to be called a human being? Robot fits u best, so let me stick with dat.
Bot, incase u don't know, most Pentecostal churches aren't even members of CAN, dey are political and do not represent the entire Christian body. During civil war, last i checked, it was catholics and Orthodox dat were providing relief materials and treatments to victims or the war, JW were no place to be found. Pentecostalism was almost non existent as at dat time. The Pentecostal churches today started late 70s and early 80s in case dey didn't tell you. Ur society is a disgrace to Jesus Christ, self centered and non sacrificing. U rather sit in ur kingdom halls and spread biles and make ur self feel self righteous dan to reach out to victims of crisis. Shame on you

Salvation102:
wow, dis one seems braindead ooo. U will even argue with evidence set before you yet you are yet to provide the sources to ur claim.
Perhaps ur eyes were too blind to see d academic references from Cambridge. Or maybe a church bribed dem to twist it
Ur actually a dullard, probably like ur buhari .. Go and ask ur society members the canon of scripture dey are using if its not the Council of Carthage canon

Salvation is far from 102 ooo wow, dis one seems braindead ooo.
U will even argue with evidence set before you, yet you are yet to provide the sources to ur claims that you have ann INDEPENDENT source, when your new GB is only Wikipedia.
Perhaps ur eyes were too blind to see d church references from the catholic. Or maybe a JWs bribed dem to twist it. How can a dullard reason intelligently, probably like ur GEJ and CAN who are collecting 40 Million from ur PMB

Go and ask ur theological pastor members if they are not simply an appendage of the roman catholic church who accept every thing their church history offer. and for clueless howlers like you, you have no other source of information;

You first have have to read the JWs literature and after understanding it, you will now go to your apostates friends and see what counter excuses they have to offer. no be so? that why you are shouting about "Council of Carthage canon"

The catholic church library and the pope as well as the catholic church are your masters because your pastors can't afford the research and institutional resources to question history and see how doctrines and cultures are been controlled by the powerful organizations that existed before Protestantism and Pentecostalism! Instead your pastors only chase after money, fame, deceitful miracles and human glory.

The references of Wikipedia are both academic and religious and you have Pentecostaly lied AGAIN

Salvation102:
its actually been proven from my last post dat ur a dullard . Someone dat can't reason independently, is dat one even qualified to be called a human being? Robot fits u best, so let me stick with dat.
Bot, incase u don't know, most Pentecostal churches aren't even members of CAN, dey are political and do not represent the entire Christian body. During civil war, last i checked, it was catholics and Orthodox dat were providing relief materials and treatments to victims or the war, JW were no place to be found. Pentecostalism was almost non existent as at dat time. The Pentecostal churches today started late 70s and early 80s in case dey didn't tell you. Ur society is a disgrace to Jesus Christ, self centered and non sacrificing. U rather sit in ur kingdom halls and spread biles and make ur self feel self righteous dan to reach out to victims of crisis. Shame on you

1. Bot, incase u don't know, most Pentecostal churches aren't even members of CAN - Yeee, you are always divided until when 40 Million is to be shared!

until Gods Kingdom JWs will be accused of pacifism, thought his is a characterization by your people. https://www.nairaland.com/1475222/jehovahs-witnesses-war

2. catholics and Orthodox dat were providing relief materials and treatments to victims or the war, JW were no place to be found.

Those who promote violence will meet with violence and they are very dangerous people because they put other innocent worshipers at risk. dring the civil war Alex. madiebo said that some of the groups promoting the idea of saboteurs among the biafran army were religious leaders.....JWs will never share in blood of these people - Ode

enimooko:
Governing Body Disgraced in Miracle Event:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQnI4eoSvwo

God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO
God of miracle na my papa OOOO

This is the only instance where miracles occurred in the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQnI4eoSvwo

and some of ur folks are beating their chest dat miracle ended after d last apostle.. Dey really need to see dis

enimooko:
no Church should claim dey determined d canon ooo.

hehe hehe.. E dey pain u say no be ur watchtower society compile am ba? D fact is u are using dat compiled work and still accusing those who did d job to be apostates

enimooko:
Salvation is far from 102 ooo wow, dis one seems braindead ooo.
U will even argue with evidence set before you, yet you are yet to provide the sources to ur claims that you have ann INDEPENDENT source, when your new GB is only Wikipedia.
Perhaps ur eyes were too blind to see d church references from the catholic. Or maybe a JWs bribed dem to twist it. How can a dullard reason intelligently, probably like ur GEJ and CAN who are collecting 40 Million from ur PMB

Go and ask ur theological pastor members if they are not simply an appendage of the roman catholic church who accept every thing their church history offer. and for clueless howlers like you, you have no other source of information;

You first have have to read the JWs literature and after understanding it, you will now go to your apostates friends and see what counter excuses they have to offer. no be so? that why you are shouting about "Council of Carthage canon"

The catholic church library and the pope as well as the catholic church are your masters because your pastors can't afford the research and institutional resources to question history and see how doctrines and cultures are been controlled by the powerful organizations that existed before Protestantism and Pentecostalism! Instead your pastors only chase after money, fame, deceitful miracles and human glory.

The references of Wikipedia are both academic and religious and you have Pentecostaly lied AGAIN

hello bot, ur brain is paining you.
I have dropped evidences for my claim that the canon i r using now was compiled by the council at Carthage, its truth too bitter to swallow. Dey must av told u dat ur Bible fell from heaven or dey got it from angel Michael .. U see religious and academic references and u r still arguing. Buhari like u

Riofidelio:
AGREED! So let's stop dividing the Church of Christ with that evil word "denomination" Since the Christ is ONE.1Corinthians 1:12,13 Which of all these different religions (including JWs) claiming Christians is the ONE and ONLY group for Christ? I'll suggest Jesus' approach "going to meet people at home one on one for presentation and cross examination" Matthew 10:3-26,28:19,20 compared to Malachi 3:16-18 and Isaiah 54:17 But if you know a better way to solve this problem please let's hear it!

Please read carefully!!!!!!
WHAT CONSTITUTE SACRED SERVICE

If we read the account that follows those words, as well as all the rest of the Christian Scriptures, we will find that Christianity is not presented as either a system-oriented or building-oriented way of life and worship; nor is it defined by creeds or law codes. Neither is it centered upon specific activities viewed as specially and distinctly devotional and religious and therefore as having superior merit before God over other activities not so viewed. It is a way of life that embraces all of life and all of life’s activities. In reading the words of God’s Son and the writings of his apostles we find that it is not a matter of belonging to some religious system, practicing certain religious acts at certain times and certain places, but what we are as persons in our daily life that shows whether we are his followers or not. Only because this is true could his apostle say, “Whatever you are doing, whether you speak or act, do everything in the name of [as representative of, Living Bible] the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.” He could even say to those then slaves, “Whatever you are doing, put your whole heart into it, as if you were doing it for the Lord and not for men, knowing that there is a Master who will give you your heritage as a reward for your service.”

Riofidelio:
AGREED! So let's stop dividing the Church of Christ with that evil word "denomination" Since the Christ is ONE.1Corinthians 1:12,13 Which of all these different religions (including JWs) claiming Christians is the ONE and ONLY group for Christ? I'll suggest Jesus' approach "going to meet people at home one on one for presentation and cross examination" Matthew 10:3-26,28:19,20 compared to Malachi 3:16-18 and Isaiah 54:17 But if you know a better way to solve this problem please let's hear it!

In summary, then, even as I am convinced that the one true religion is Christianity itself, not some religious system claiming to represent and exemplify it, I also believe that the truth is found in the Scriptures, not in any particular set of interpretations that men have developed or may yet develop. That truth is not only in the words themselves but also in the revelation they bring to us of God and of his Son. We will almost inevitably differ in our understanding on some points but, if governed by God’s spirit, should have no great difficulty in agreeing on those teachings clearly and plainly stated.

What do you know about Jehovah’s Witnesses? Some people have called them Christian propagandists, a new Christian cult, a Christian sect influenced by Judaism, or fanatics who reject medical treatment. Actually, the Witnesses are none of these things. Why do some people think such things about them? Mostly because those people have been given wrong information.

As their name shows, Jehovah’s Witnesses are Witnesses for Jehovah. Who is Jehovah? Jehovah is the name that Almighty God gives to himself in the pages of the Bible.* It is a personal name, not a title like God or Lord. In a general sense, throughout history anyone who witnesses to God’s glory could be called a witness of Jehovah.—Exodus 3:13, 15; Isaiah 43:10.

Thus, the Bible, when listing a long line of faithful men of old starting with Abel, calls them “so great a cloud of witnesses.” (Hebrews 11:4; 12:1) Outstanding individuals, such as Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, and David, are listed as God’s witnesses—witnesses of Jehovah. Jesus Christ is called “the faithful and true witness.”—Revelation 3:14.

Why Witnesses Are Needed

The Bible says that man was created perfect and placed in a paradise. The Creator made him with the ability to live forever, to have children, and to extend the boundaries of his Paradise home worldwide. At that time man knew his God, and there was no need for witnesses.—Genesis 1:27, 28.

God endowed man with free will, but our first parents made a wrong decision. They chose to be independent of him. Hence, while God remains perfect, just, and pure, mankind on earth became sinful and unrighteous. Nevertheless, our holy God will allow sin and wickedness to continue only for a limited period of time. The Bible indicates that we are near the end of that divinely permitted time period. So that mankind can know these things, He has preserved His Word—the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel—down to our day.

Since most humans do not know God, he has commanded faithful humans to witness about him. To such faithful ones he says: “You are my witnesses.” (Isaiah 43:10) About the work they accomplish, he says: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations.”—Matthew 24:14.

Today, more people than ever before, from all races, languages, and nations, are honestly investigating God’s Word. They have found that many religious customs are of pagan origin and are displeasing to God.

As you may know, some have used religion for commercial purposes. Others have used it to further their political ends or to get rich at the expense of the poor. How do you think such religious profiteers react when a true witness about God is given? Obviously, they feel threatened. That is one reason why you may hear some speak evil of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Whatever the cost, Jehovah’s Witnesses adhere closely to the Bible. They have not invented a new religion. They merely follow what is written in the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel, which is the foundation of true religion. What, then, do they believe? Below are listed some of their teachings. Read and see whether these have the ring of truth or not.

No Trinity

The Bible does not teach the Trinity doctrine. Rather, it says that there is only one true and eternal God. “Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.” (Deuteronomy 6:4) He is the Creator—eternal, almighty, without equal. Jesus is not Almighty God. Jesus lived on earth as a perfect man and died for imperfect mankind. God kindly accepted the life of Jesus as a ransom, and thus through him is the salvation of the faithful. This is God’s will.—Luke 22:42; Romans 5:12.

No Immortal Soul

What happens to people when they die? God’s Word says: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.” (Ecclesiastes 9:5) Man does not have an immortal soul. People who think they are talking to the dead are really communicating with demons. Similarly, prayers for the dead benefit no one except the clergy who are paid to utter them.

Resurrection

Man’s real hope is the resurrection, the coming forth of the dead to an earth restored to Paradise conditions. Those who have served God will be blessed for their faithfulness. Those who have died without finding God will have that opportunity then. Thus, “there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” (Acts 24:15) Only those whom God judges unworthy will not receive a resurrection.

No Hellfire

A loving God would not create a place where the dead suffer eternally. God himself described the burning and torturing of humans as “a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.”—Jeremiah 7:31.

No Fate

God does not write anything on the foreheads of people. There is no fate that determines our future before we are born. We are responsible for what we do, for the choices we make. “Each of us will render an account for himself to God.”—Romans 14:12.

No Clergy Class

Everyone dedicated to God is equal in His eyes. True worshipers are all brothers and sisters. God did not appoint an elevated clergy class. Jesus said: “Everyone that exalts himself will be humiliated, but he that humbles himself will be exalted.” (Luke 18:14) God will judge adversely those who through religion elevate themselves over others.—Matthew 23:4-12.

No Idolatry

“God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.” (John 4:24) True worshipers do not use idols.

Neutral in Politics

Jesus said his followers would be “no part of the world.” (John 17:16) Hence, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not interfere in national or local politics. Further, they are a law-abiding people.—Romans 13:1, 5-7.

High Moral Standards

Jesus described how to recognize true worshipers when he said: “This is my commandment, that you love one another just as I have loved you.” (John 15:12, 13) Another chapter in the Bible says: “The fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control.” (Galatians 5:22, 23) Those manifesting these qualities do not lie, steal, gamble, abuse drugs, or commit sexual immorality. (Ephesians 4:25-28) They love God, so they avoid things that God hates. These principles govern the lives of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

The Approaching End of This World

What makes our time different from other times? Fulfillment of prophecy shows that we are living in the last days of this system of things, this world. (Daniel 2:44) Today, the issue is, Do the things we do please God? God is one, and there can be only one true religion. This religion cannot be out of harmony with the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel. Hence, we must examine that Word.

That is what Jehovah’s Witnesses do. Whatever your religion, you need to do the same. Nobody can make a decision for you in this regard. Remember: “Each of us will render an account for himself to God.”—Romans 14:12.

No individual is born a Witness of Jehovah. Every single Witness makes a personal decision. After making an honest search of God’s Word, the searcher recognizes truth, and on this basis he dedicates himself to the true God, whose name is Jehovah. If you would like to make a similar investigation, please write to one of the addresses below.

Unless otherwise indicated, all Bible quotations are from the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures.


In the world of Islam, the Bible consists of the books known as the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel. At least 64 verses of the Koran speak of these books as the Word of God and emphasize the need to read them and to carry out their commands. Some assert that the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel have been changed. However, to say this is to ignore the words of the Koran and to say that God cannot preserve his Word.

All lies. Jehovah witnesses are ministers of the devil disguised as angels of light.

They are not believers in Christ as they don't believe in the bodily resurrection of our Lord Jesus.

Please, don't listen to them before they brainwash you with their ever changing dogmas.

Riofidelio:
AGREED! So let's stop dividing the Church of Christ with that evil word "denomination" Since the Christ is ONE.1Corinthians 1:12,13 Which of all these different religions (including JWs) claiming Christians is the ONE and ONLY group for Christ? I'll suggest Jesus' approach "going to meet people at home one on one for presentation and cross examination" Matthew 10:3-26,28:19,20 compared to Malachi 3:16-18 and Isaiah 54:17 But if you know a better way to solve this problem please let's hear it!

Some indeed focus on and magnify faults or errors found within the many religious organization(Jehovah’s organisation included) which are essentially superficial. They see surface problems but fail to see the more consequential underlying problems. They condemn only in those areas where they feel that their own (generally opposite) position and claims will come off looking superior, to the advantage of the particular religious systems they advocate. They fail to see where the crucial principles involved may call for adjustments in their own attitudes, positions and claims. This resembles Pharisaism more than Christianity. In similar fashion, Witnesses just like other religious denominations when defending their ORGANIZATION often place great emphasis on what amounts to APPEARANCE more than SUBSTANCE , on CLAIM as opposed to REALITY , perhaps on INTENT as compared to ACTUAL RESULT.

Ken4Christ:
All lies. Jehovah witnesses are ministers of the devil disguised as angels of light.

They are not believers in Christ as they don't believe in the bodily resurrection of our Lord Jesus.

Please, don't listen to them before they brainwash you with their ever changing dogmas.

ken4christ: See as U dey deceive your self with your lie, lie. Your pastorpreneurs no try at all. JWs believe in Jesus,our Redeemer & Messiah, the only begotten son of God. (John3:16, 1Cor15:45,47). In fact ,your Bible tells me U are a LIAR. "If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the son of God God lives in him & he in God"-1John4:14,15. (where U see God the son dey for bible? ) Go argue & quarrel with your Bible . Pls stop yarning trash & leave JW alone .

Jozzy4:
Your silence is a blow to the heaven and hell doctrine.

heaven or hell .. Where did he go ? You can't go further, because You know you are deceiving yourself, Did Bible tell you anyone of Abraham or Noah go to heaven when they die,Yet you people would boast that they are in heaven , You didn't decide to be silent then.

Fact : Enoch died - Heb 11:13

oh duh jozz, your facts are as false as your religion
the elders, abel, noah, abraham, isaac, jacob, sara etc.
all had faith but died

enoch also had faith but he never died because he obviously pleased God even more than others of faith:
Heb 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Jozzy4:
ALL , I repeat ALL of these died. ALL clearly refer to all the men of faith mentioned. - Heb 11:13, unknown to you , You just contradict Romans 5:12 that said death spread to ALL MEN, Is it lying ?

Simple IQ test, if you insist he didn't die despite Heb 11:13, Tell us where he was transferred to ?

Gen_5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

Heb_11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.


because enoch walked with God-pleased God, God took enoch-translated enoch so that he would not die


false jw jozzy would say:

because enoch walked with God-pleased god, God took enoch-translated enoch so that he would die



duh jozzy, simple IQ test would leave you out of knowing it
and what has an IQ test to do with where God translated enoch to
it's just a matter of searching the scriptures and seeing if it's there,
nothing to do with IQ, oh one lacking in IQ

Jozzy4:
ALL , I repeat ALL of these died. ALL clearly refer to all the men of faith mentioned. - Heb 11:13, unknown to you , You just contradict Romans 5:12 that said death spread to ALL MEN, Is it lying ?

Simple IQ test, if you insist he didn't die despite Heb 11:13, Tell us where he was transferred to ?

duh, death has spread to all men, with exception of course to one or two who God
spared from death

it has been reported in the past that all of ethopia is in drought and suffering,
but there were some who had plenty, not a contradiction, just a bit of understanding needed,
which you very much lack



i was going to say to you jozzy: learn how to understand the scriptures,
but then remembered false jw even change what God's word says

Jozzy4:
Reply my mentions and let's see who hold false doctrines dear

you false jw's hold false doctrines,
you say the Lord Jesus Christ is an angel,
you say angels are in your headquarters telling your elders things.

however the Holy Spirit tells Christians things, there is no need since pentecost for God to send angels to Christians with messages

false jw think the Holy Spirit is just God's power

Act 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.


God is a Spirit, who might the Holy Spirit be, ummmmm

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Salvation102:
hehe hehe.. E dey pain u say no be ur watchtower society compile am ba? D fact is u are using dat compiled work and still accusing those who did d job to be apostates

no Church should claim dey determined d canon ooo.

johnw47:
Blalalabalalblalal.....

Forever sickly John

johnw47:
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always making up stories and answering them on his own...welcome

Ken4Christ:
Please, don't listen to them before they brainwash you with their ever changing dogmas.

But you are brainwashed by stagnated outdated dogmas of hellfire, infant baptism, limbo....all proved false and outdated and without scriptural backing...why should I trust you and your lying pastors

...and why are your pastors always making failed predictions....https://www.news24.com/Africa/News/nigerias-prophet-tb-joshua-says-clinton-will-win-us-election-20161107

achorladey:
In summary, then, even as I am convinced that the one true religion is Christianity itself, not some religious system claiming to represent and exemplify it, I also believe that the truth is found in the Scriptures, not in any particular set of interpretations that men have developed or may yet develop. That truth is not only in the words themselves but also in the revelation they bring to us of God and of his Son. We will almost inevitably differ in our understanding on some points but, if governed by God’s spirit, should have no great difficulty in agreeing on those teachings clearly and plainly stated.

L I E S

achorladey:
Please read carefully!!!!!!
WHAT CONSTITUTE SACRED SERVICE

If we read the account that follows those words, as well as all the rest of the Christian Scriptures, we will find that Christianity is not presented as either a system-oriented or building-oriented way of life and worship; nor is it defined by creeds or law codes. Neither is it centered upon specific activities viewed as specially and distinctly devotional and religious and therefore as having superior merit before God over other activities not so viewed. It is a way of life that embraces all of life and all of life’s activities. In reading the words of God’s Son and the writings of his apostles we find that it is not a matter of belonging to some religious system, practicing certain religious acts at certain times and certain places, but what we are as persons in our daily life that shows whether we are his followers or not. Only because this is true could his apostle say, “Whatever you are doing, whether you speak or act, do everything in the name of [as representative of, Living Bible] the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.” He could even say to those then slaves, “Whatever you are doing, put your whole heart into it, as if you were doing it for the Lord and not for men, knowing that there is a Master who will give you your heritage as a reward for your service.”

Too much dogma kicked 1Peter out

Salvation102:
and some of ur folks are beating their chest dat miracle ended after d last apostle.. Dey really need to see dis

Ode X 2

enimooko:
Forever sickly John always making up stories and answering them on his own...welcome

forever fearful enim kook koo, not replying to the subject
but running away from it, and running away at the mouth, funny

enimooko:
L I E S

duh, it's already known that a big mouth is all you have

enimooko:
Ode X 2

a picture paints a thousand words, and with you they are all the same word:

fool, etc. etc. etc.