Salvation102:
oh, government has to be involved before it is persecution? Was it d Roman government or the Jewish natives dat persecuted d early church?
Crisis is going on in d north east and u seem to be happy with the bloodshed as u sound. U believe ur society is more righteous dats y it hasn't gotten to dem, to send help to the displaced people nko? No way you can't. And you call ursef true followers of Jesus. Dat is not the Jesus i serve

Everyone agrees that d Roman government and the Jewish natives persecuted d early church. The crisis in the north affects everyone whether true or false Christian or true or false Moslem...

enimooko:
site your independent reliable sources and we will read from it

for your reading pleasure
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_the_Christian_biblical_canon

Salvation102:
its not Pentecostals fault dat ur GB members fly economy class .
Let ur governing body fraudsters perform a real miracle lets see abi is it only does and don't dat jehova tell dem to tell you

That how Jesus lived like an emperor and the apostle Paul was living large - Ode

enimooko:
Everyone agrees that d Roman government and the Jewish natives persecuted d early church. The crisis in the north affects everyone whether true or false Christian or true or false Moslem...

how many Jehova withness kingdom halls av been destroyed in d north so far? D war now affects everyone but wen it started out, it was solely Christians dat d insurgents were initially after. Muslims in dis country even has right to talk about persecution before you guys

Salvation102:
ur belove brother said John d Baptist birthed by Elizabeth was Elijah reincarnate .. Maybe he actually isn't a true Christian like u said

Judge him as you wish. But my question to you is: why a true christian will accept reincarnation instead of Resurrection.

enimooko:


That how Jesus lived like an emperor and the apostle Paul was living large - Ode

Ur GB members do not have a house of their own like Jesus right? Dey are currently in prison like Apostle Paul shay?... Brainwashed fellow

enimooko:
Judge him as you wish. But my question to you is: why a true christian will accept reincarnation instead of Resurrection.

its a surprising sontin ooo. Maybe u r still a kindergarten jw member sha, wen u get to his level, you will probably be taught by ur GB

Salvation102:
how many Jehova withness kingdom halls av been destroyed in d north so far? D war now affects everyone but wen it started out, it was solely Christians dat d insurgents were initially after. Muslims in dis country even has right to talk about persecution before you guys

hahaahaha. right to talk about persecution? You know folks like you who did not live in Maiduguri in 2013 and did not know how politicians and religious leaders shape conversations in the media, just sit in the cities in PH, Abuja or other cities to swallow the sewage spewed out to you by your priests!

the insurgents initially had nothing to do with Christians. it was a betrayal between the BH leader and the politicians. The BH leader felt deceived by Borno Governor........in Benue the government have been allowing cult kllings and terror to go on for a very long time. Most of the cult fights in Benue are groups populated by individual "Christians" - until the whole north was engulfed - but you are ignorant and clueless and you swaloow the persecution story by your daddy GOs

Salvation102:
its a surprising sontin ooo. Maybe u r still a kindergarten jw member sha, wen u get to his level, you will probably be taught by ur GB

Now that you have rejected reincarnation as a false doctrine...moving on

Salvation102:
Ur GB members do not have a house of their own like Jesus right? Dey are currently in prison like Apostle Paul shay?... Brainwashed fellow

Religious leaders should not be living large. Evidence of your Daddies are all over the regulated media. Provide a contrary proof

Salvation102:
for your reading pleasure
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_the_Christian_biblical_canon

/en.m.wikipedia.org Is this your independent, genuine and credible source
I tot salvation 101 will quote a genuine catholic encyclopoedia - please go to the University of Nigeria, Nsukka for consultation...

enimooko:
hahaahaha. right to talk about persecution? You know folks like you who did not live in Maiduguri in 2013 and did not know how politicians and religious leaders shape conversations in the media, just sit in the cities in PH, Abuja or other cities to swallow the sewage spewed out to you by your priests!

the insurgents initially had nothing to do with Christians. it was a betrayal between the BH leader and the politicians. The BH leader felt deceived by Borno Governor........in Benue the government have been allowing cult kllings and terror to go on for a very long time. Most of the cult fights in Benue are groups populated by individual "Christians" - until the whole north was engulfed - but you are ignorant and clueless and you swaloow the persecution story by your daddy GOs

hahahahahaha...wat do u know about boko haram? Is dat wat ur awake published? U dat is hiding in one room somewhere in peaceful southern Nigeria is talking. U accused Christians of being behind d benue crisis? So d herdsmen are Christians? I see u av no honor and so u would distort fact in order to paint a good picture of ur already battered society image. Christians from d south send relief materials and aid workers to displaced people camp in war torn areas, what has your society done in dat regards?

enimooko:
/en.m.wikipedia.org Is this your independent, genuine and credible source
I tot salvation 101 will quote a genuine catholic encyclopoedia - please go to the University of Nigeria, Nsukka for consultation...

oh, Wikipedia has now become a religious organization cos you can't kiss the truth

Salvation102:
biblical_canon

- Since you like internet research and Wikipedia

150 to 170 C.E. -
Tatian, Greek Tatianos, (born 120 ce, Syria—died April 173), Syrian compiler of the Diatessaron (Greek: “Through Four,” “From Four,” or “Out of Four”), a version of the four Gospels arranged in a single continuous narrative that, in its Syriac form, served the biblical-theological vocabulary of the Syrian church for centuries. Its Greek and Latin versions influenced the Gospel text. Tatian also founded, or at least was closely associated with, the heretical sect of the Encratites, a community integrating a severe asceticism with elements of Stoic philosophy.
So a composite account of Jesus’ life compiled from the same four Gospels found in our present Bibles, indicated that he considered only those Gospels to be authentic and that they were already in circulation.

About 170 C.E.,
The Muratorian fragment is a copy of perhaps the oldest known list of most of the books of the New Testament. Hence, the earliest known catalog of “New Testament” books, called the Muratorian Fragment, was produced. It lists most of the books of the Christian Greek Scriptures.


Your 400AD Orthodox church huge brainwashing is M0ronic

Salvation102:
oh, Wikipedia has now become a religious organization cos you can't kiss the truth

So your non-religious independent source is Wikipedia, Ok. I have quoted the same Wikipedia that shows you how wrong you've been all along and how you have been fooled all along. When you read it don't use stubborn Pentecostal philosophy to dodge the truth oo - if you want to be educated from a catholic encyclopedia say it and I'll help you out

enimooko:
- Since you like internet research and Wikipedia

150 to 170 C.E. -
Tatian, Greek Tatianos, (born 120 ce, Syria—died April 173), Syrian compiler of the Diatessaron (Greek: “Through Four,” “From Four,” or “Out of Four”), a version of the four Gospels arranged in a single continuous narrative that, in its Syriac form, served the biblical-theological vocabulary of the Syrian church for centuries. Its Greek and Latin versions influenced the Gospel text. Tatian also founded, or at least was closely associated with, the heretical sect of the Encratites, a community integrating a severe asceticism with elements of Stoic philosophy.
So a composite account of Jesus’ life compiled from the same four Gospels found in our present Bibles, indicated that he considered only those Gospels to be authentic and that they were already in circulation.

About 170 C.E.,
The Muratorian fragment is a copy of perhaps the oldest known list of most of the books of the New Testament. Hence, the earliest known catalog of “New Testament” books, called the Muratorian Fragment, was produced. It lists most of the books of the Christian Greek Scriptures.


Your 400AD Orthodox church huge brainwashing is M0ronic

eeya, why don't you read further so dat u know the one dat ur society copied from. How many books were in these ones u av mentioned and how many book are in the one ur folks are using so we know whc person's brain is paining him .
Now also, in a bid to discredit the 400AD guys u just shot ursef on d foot much more. Am seeing 150 AD and 170 AD. Dis was long after the death of the last apostle. Do you believe those guys were under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wen dey compiled it? It just rubbished ur claims dat miracle ended after d death of the last apostle shey u know?

enimooko:
So your non-religious independent source is Wikipedia, Ok. I have quoted the same Wikipedia that shows you how wrong you've been all along and how you have been fooled all along. When you read it don't use stubborn Pentecostal philosophy to dodge the truth oo - if you want to be educated from a catholic encyclopedia say it and I'll help you out

yeah yeah. 150AD, 400AD, are still long years after the death of the last apostle. Can u see hoe u shot ursef in d foot?

Salvation102:
hahahahahaha...wat do u know about boko haram? Is dat wat ur awake published? U dat is hiding in one room somewhere in peaceful southern Nigeria is talking. U accused Christians of being behind d benue crisis? So d herdsmen are Christians? I see u av no honor and so u would distort fact in order to paint a good picture of ur already battered society image. Christians from d south send relief materials and aid workers to displaced people camp in war torn areas, what has your society done in dat regards?

Your pastors are guilty of lying to you. The government of Nigeria is not attacking the churches. Your VP is a pastor in the RCCG and many members of your church are currently in several security apparatus in Nigeria and would know it if the government of the FRN is busy persecuting members of any church. The churches are only complaining about the seeming lack of protection given to the citizens, mosques and churches

The same way ISIS say its persecuting Christians when convenient, but kills off everyone in sight from Afghanistan to Syria - end times are here and the devil will use whatever method to remove peace from the earth.....In this thread the question is about a constituted authority persecuting its citizens or a government becoming paranoid about its citizens...only very few big religious organizations are persecuted in that way...others just melt. Your churches have so much battered image from God and from men that your religion is called the-opium-of-the-people and many have become atheist and your history is filled with blood. During the Nigeria Civil war your pastors of northern origin in the North melted away while the igbos and others were slaughtered and Gowon the man behind the massacre during the war is now one of your singing pastor. Everyone finds solace in the blood-filled church of demons - Ode

Salvation102:
yeah yeah. 150AD, 400AD, are still long years after the death of the last apostle. Can u see hoe u shot ursef in d foot?

is 150AD same as 400AD?
And can you see that the canon is not a decision of apostates? or you have a different proof. Accept the facts and be cured of this disease in your church. 400AD!

Salvation102:
eeya, why don't you read further so dat u know the one dat ur society copied from. How many books were in these ones u av mentioned and how many book are in the one ur folks are using so we know whc person's brain is paining him .
Now also, in a bid to discredit the 400AD guys u just shot ursef on d foot much more. Am seeing 150 AD and 170 AD. Dis was long after the death of the last apostle. Do you believe those guys were under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wen dey compiled it? It just rubbished ur claims dat miracle ended after d death of the last apostle shey u know?

Some church will like to say they determined the canon! i.e. determined the library that is now the bible...
The Christians living between 31CE to 100CE will have known who-and-who to accept as anointed brothers. So what miracle is needed to know which apostle is authentic and which books were inspired. You mean the holy spirit will not guide the congregation towards using only the texts meant to be part of the canon. Because you are a Pentecostal you can't accept the reality of compiling the bible: The bible says those under inspiration were the writers. According to your Pentecostal interpretation the compilers are also under inspiration. And you wish your pastors to be the compilers. keep dreaming, it is free......

BTW, lets have the new lies from your researchers confirming to you the record of the miracles that were occurring after 100CE?! the new 400AD Bible

Salvation102:
there is nothing pure about the worship of man judged by man's ever changing standards

"Ever changing standards" It's a pity you don't understand the word "Bible students"! Imagine what a first century observer would say as Christians do join in stoning wrongdoers,they do pray in public places,they do curse those cursing them,they do give their wives divorce papers,they love prominent seats in synagogue and parties,they use weapons to defend themselves,they only go to synagogues on Sabbath all these and many more they were CHANGING one after the other ANY MOMENT Jesus whom they accepted as the Messiah(Christ) says "stop doing it that way" Of course an observer watching from afar would say "i hate their EVER CHANGING STANDARDS" Hellooooo! it's that same Jesus(in Spirit) that we're saying is still directing today for He said "i'm with you till the end" Matthew 28:20 A WISE student of the scriptures will never say "why is He always giving or changing orders".READ Matthew 10:10 compared to Luke 22:35,36

Salvation102:
Ur GB members do not have a house of their own like Jesus right? Dey are currently in prison like Apostle Paul shay?... Brainwashed fellow

Hmmmmmmmmm why are you always against the governing body? Well if you must know they're free to acquire properties for themselves but because their main focus is to oversee Jesus' work to be thoroughly done,they're always working tirelessly for that purpose. Many times they've been thrown in prison, but it's a pity those giving you info will deliberately omit that part. There are many of our brothers across the globe imprisoned because of their Faith, what do you think their persecutors will do if they're able to lay hands on those leading them(GB)? We're Jehovah's witnesses, perhaps you tried to marry one of our brothers and it became impossible as you're not one of US, this has happened to so many people as they love to have virtuous spouse. Please don't hate US or our Governing Body for that, it's for bliss and a lifetime matrimony that we're instructed to marry someone with whom we share the same beliefs! 1Corinthians 7:39

enimooko:


Your pastors are guilty of lying to you. The government of Nigeria is not attacking the churches. Your VP is a pastor in the RCCG and many members of your church are currently in several security apparatus in Nigeria and would know it if the government of the FRN is busy persecuting members of any church. The churches are only complaining about the seeming lack of protection given to the citizens, mosques and churches

The same way ISIS say its persecuting Christians when convenient, but kills off everyone in sight from Afghanistan to Syria - end times are here and the devil will use whatever method to remove peace from the earth.....In this thread the question is about a constituted authority persecuting its citizens or a government becoming paranoid about its citizens...only very few big religious organizations are persecuted in that way...others just melt. Your churches have so much battered image from God and from men that your religion is called the-opium-of-the-people and many have become atheist and your history is filled with blood. During the Nigeria Civil war your pastors of northern origin in the North melted away while the igbos and others were slaughtered and Gowon the man behind the massacre during the war is now one of your singing pastor. Everyone finds solace in the blood-filled church of demons - Ode

i asked a question wch you cannot answer. There is crisis in the north east. What has ur so called pure religion done to help those people who have been displayed by the war or helping those in need of help isn't part of your pure worship or you are waiting for God to tell ur governing body before you send help to the displaced people?
You have sworn a oath to not carry gun, but you know how to run to police wen u have disagreement with ur neighbors . Who is deceiving who. Yeye ppl

enimooko:
is 150AD same as 400AD?
And can you see that the canon is not a decision of apostates? or you have a different proof. Accept the facts and be cured of this disease in your church. 400AD!

hahaha. I don forget say na back of school u go
John the beloved d last apostle died in 98AD. Meaning Holy Spirit stopped using men in 98AD according to ur doctrine. 150AD is 52 years after and dat was wen d first compilation consisting of how many books.. (am just pretending like i agree with you ni oo. But u need to drop a link to where you got dat ir info from).

Here is whats wiki says.
The development of the New Testament canon was, like that of the Old Testament, a gradual process.

Irenaeus (died c. 202) quotes and cites 21 books that would end up as part of the New Testament, but does not use Philemon, Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 3 John and Jude.[4] By the early 3rd century Origen of Alexandria may have been using the same 27 books as in the modern New Testament, though there were still disputes over the canonicity of Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, and Revelation[5] (see also Antilegomena). Likewise by 200 the Muratorian fragment shows that there existed a set of Christian writings somewhat similar to what is now the New Testament, which included four gospels and argued against objections to them.[6] Thus, while there was plenty of discussion in the Early Church over the New Testament canon, the "major" writings were accepted by almost all Christian authorities by the middle of the second century.[7]

The next two hundred years followed a similar process of continual discussion throughout the entire Church, and localized refinements of acceptance. This process was not yet complete at the time of the First Council of Nicaea in 325, though substantial progress had been made by then. Though a list was clearly necessary to fulfill Constantine's commission in 331 of fifty copies of the Bible for the Church at Constantinople, no concrete evidence exists to indicate that it was considered to be a formal canon. In the absence of a canonical list, the resolution of questions would normally have been directed through the see of Constantinople, in consultation with Bishop Eusebius of Caesarea (who was given the commission), and perhaps other bishops who were available locally.

In his Easter letter of 367, Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, gave a list of exactly the same books that would formally become the New Testament canon,[8] and he used the word "canonized" (kanonizomena) in regard to them.[9] The first council that accepted the present Catholic canon (the Canon of Trent) may have been the Synod of Hippo Regius in North Africa (393). The acts of this council, however, are lost. A brief summary of the acts was read at and accepted by the Council of Carthage (397) and the Council of Carthage (419).[10] These councils took place under the authority of St. Augustine, who regarded the canon as already closed.[11] Pope Damasus I's Council of Rome in 382, if the Decretum Gelasianum is correctly associated with it, issued a biblical canon identical to that mentioned above,[8] or if not the list is at least a 6th-century compilation[12] claiming a 4th-century imprimatur.[13] Likewise, Damasus's commissioning of the Latin Vulgate edition of the Bible, c. 383, was instrumental in the fixation of the canon in the West.[14] In 405, Pope Innocent I sent a list of the sacred books to a Gallic bishop, Exsuperius of Toulouse. When these bishops and councils spoke on the matter, however, they were not defining something new, but instead "were ratifying what had already become the mind of the church."[15] Thus, from the 5th century onward, the Western Church was unanimous concerning the New Testament canon.[16]

The last book to be accepted universally was the Book of Revelation, though with time all the Eastern Church also agreed. Thus, by the 5th century, both the Western and Eastern churches had come into agreement on the matter of the New Testament canon.[17] The Council of Trent of 1546 reaffirmed that finalization for Catholicism in the wake of the Protestant Reformation.[18] The Thirty-Nine Articles of 1563 for the Church of England and the Westminster Confession of Faith of 1647 for English Calvinism established the official finalizations for those new branches of Christianity in light of the break with Rome. The Synod of Jerusalem of 1672 made no changes to the New Testament canon for any Orthodox, but resolved some questions about some of the minor Old Testament books for the Greek Orthodox and most other Orthodox jurisdictions (who chose to accept it).

enimooko:

Some church will like to say they determined the canon! i.e. determined the library that is now the bible...
The Christians living between 31CE to 100CE will have known who-and-who to accept as anointed brothers. So what miracle is needed to know which apostle is authentic and which books were inspired. You mean the holy spirit will not guide the congregation towards using only the texts meant to be part of the canon. Because you are a Pentecostal you can't accept the reality of compiling the bible: The bible says those under inspiration were the writers. According to your Pentecostal interpretation the compilers are also under inspiration. And you wish your pastors to be the compilers. keep dreaming, it is free......

BTW, lets have the new lies from your researchers confirming to you the record of the miracles that were occurring after 100CE?! the new 400AD Bible

no Pentecostal will claim dey determined d canon ooo. But we would not also try to rewrite history . We didn't determine the canon, we accept it as an authority and we believe Holy Spirit used the men who compiled it as he is still using men today. Miracle still happens cos our God we serve is God of miracle

Riofidelio:
"Ever changing standards" It's a pity you don't understand the word "Bible students"! Imagine what a first century observer would say as Christians do join in stoning wrongdoers,they do pray in public places,they do curse those cursing them,they do give their wives divorce papers,they love prominent seats in synagogue and parties,they use weapons to defend themselves,they only go to synagogues on Sabbath all these and many more they were CHANGING one after the other ANY MOMENT Jesus whom they accepted as the Messiah(Christ) says "stop doing it that way" Of course an observer watching from afar would say "i hate their EVER CHANGING STANDARDS" Hellooooo! it's that same Jesus(in Spirit) that we're saying is still directing today for He said "i'm with you till the end" Matthew 28:20 A WISE student of the scriptures will never say "why is He always giving or changing orders".READ Matthew 10:10 compared to Luke 22:35,36

Jesus came to set the standard for Christianity wch is different from Judaism, we do not see Jesus changing his own standard. Mba. But seeing ur GB change d very standard dey set is troubling. Some would die ignorantly and its after they are long buried dat d standard would be changed dat would av saved dem. Imagine those who rejected immunization and vaccines, imagine those who rejected organ transplant. Why will God say reject it today and accept it tomorrow.

Riofidelio:
Hmmmmmmmmm why are you always against the governing body? Well if you must know they're free to acquire properties for themselves but because their main focus is to oversee Jesus' work to be thoroughly done,they're always working tirelessly for that purpose. Many times they've been thrown in prison, but it's a pity those giving you info will deliberately omit that part. There are many of our brothers across the globe imprisoned because of their Faith, what do you think their persecutors will do if they're able to lay hands on those leading them(GB)? We're Jehovah's witnesses, perhaps you tried to marry one of our brothers and it became impossible as you're not one of US, this has happened to so many people as they love to have virtuous spouse. Please don't hate US or our Governing Body for that, it's for bliss and a lifetime matrimony that we're instructed to marry someone with whom we share the same beliefs! 1Corinthians 7:39

i do not av a problem with your GB but i do have a problem with you deifying mere mortals. Ur brother was comparing Pentecostal pastors with Jesus and Paul so i also asked him to compare ur GB .. R dey in jail like Paul or homeless like Jesus, if dat is d standard to judge who a real Christian leader is.
Who want to marry a person dat would deny d person the use of blood transfusion if such arises, only ur folks can marry ur folks .. I can't be unequally yoked with someone who worship men nd not God

Salvation102:
i asked a question wch you cannot answer. There is crisis in the north east. What has ur so called pure religion done to help those people who have been displayed by the war or helping those in need of help isn't part of your pure worship or you are waiting for God to tell ur governing body before you send help to the displaced people?
You have sworn a oath to not carry gun, but you know how to run to police wen u have disagreement with ur neighbors . Who is deceiving who. Yeye ppl

Jesus instructed US to evacuate war turn areas(Matthew 24:15) Even Jerusalem the most cherished city of God's worshippers of ancient times,It's when such happens suddenly that relief materials are needed to cater for our family and immediately move away from such areas. The worldly governments are in charge of the territories they formed and apportioned to themselves for now So we're to subject ourselves to whoever is on top amongst them for we're not supporting either side(John 17:16,18:36)but our total allegiance is to our Owner,Master,Lord and King who ordered US not carry weapons or kill for any reason whatsoever so whenever there is disagreement with those who are not ready to take others from our GB(those overseeing the affairs of His sheep) the next is to take matters to superior authorities. Acts 28:19 I'll continue helping you to see reasons with the TRUTH!

Salvation102:
Jesus came to set the standard for Christianity wch is different from Judaism, we do not see Jesus changing his own standard. Mba. But seeing ur GB change d very standard dey set is troubling. Some would die ignorantly and its after they are long buried dat d standard would be changed dat would av saved dem. Imagine those who rejected immunization and vaccines, imagine those who rejected organ transplant. Why will God say reject it today and accept it tomorrow.

Hmmmmmmmmm You said "Jesus' instructions NEVER change" are you talking about the same Jesus of Nazareth or the imaginary Jesus that some people formed? Remember it's each time He says something NEW that His followers start trying to practice it immediately,of course observers will surely notice that they're changing operations and those who can't cope amongst His followers will walk away! John 6:64-68 Moreover He's instructions at Matthew 10:10 and Luke 22:35,36 differs! Satan and his demons are targeting Christians my friend so Jesus do give NEW orders CHANGING OPERATIONS to confuse these unseen predators,so any sheep that fails to listen to the voice of the Shepherd is on his/her own. John 10:27

Salvation102:
i do not av a problem with your GB but i do have a problem with you deifying mere mortals. Ur brother was comparing Pentecostal pastors with Jesus and Paul so i also asked him to compare ur GB .. R dey in jail like Paul or homeless like Jesus, if dat is d standard to judge who a real Christian leader is.
Who want to marry a person dat would deny d person the use of blood transfusion if such arises, only ur folks can marry ur folks .. I can't be unequally yoked with someone who worship men nd not God

Hmmmmmmmmm i pray that you get a faithful man to hook up to one day so that you'll be happily spending time with your husband,children,work,friends and ministry(if you're also preaching and teaching like true Christians) perhaps by then you'll not be spending 90% of your time on social media again.

Salvation102:
no Pentecostal will claim dey determined d canon ooo. But we would not also try to rewrite history . We didn't determine the canon, we accept it as an authority and we believe Holy Spirit used the men who compiled it as he is still using men today. Miracle still happens cos our God we serve is God of miracle

Jesus' sheep are one throughout the Earth,they speak in one accord,preaching and teaching the same thing. They can't recognize themselves by face but by faith as they're all taking the same orders from the same King! Hebrews 10:38

Riofidelio:
Jesus instructed US to evacuate war turn areas(Matthew 24:15) Even Jerusalem the most cherished city of God's worshippers of ancient times,It's when such happens suddenly that relief materials are needed to cater for our family and immediately move away from such areas. The worldly governments are in charge of the territories they formed and apportioned to themselves for now So we're to subject ourselves to whoever is on top amongst them for we're not supporting either side(John 17:16,18:36)but our total allegiance is to our Owner,Master,Lord and King who ordered US not carry weapons or kill for any reason whatsoever so whenever there is disagreement with those who are not ready to take others from our GB(those overseeing the affairs of His sheep) the next is to take matters to superior authorities. Acts 28:19 I'll continue helping you to see reasons with the TRUTH!

you just iterated my point. So those displayed people do not deserve to hear about ur pure worship? So wen there is crisis where you are now you will still run away to another Christian dominated peaceful place to continue to spread ur doctrine .
So, the government us superior authority, more superior than ur GB? U would not hold gun, but will run to men holding gun for justice. Who is deceiving who?