sKeetz:


The failure to disprove something does not constitute proof of its existence.With no enduring evidence that a god exists, there is simply no reason to believe in a deity, even if it's not possible to irrefutably disprove his existence. You cannot disprove the existence of a pink unicorn, the tooth fairy or the Flying Spaghetti Monster- all these are ridiculous claims without evidence but yet impossible to disprove.

Dalam0n:


Ogbeni, shut up and stop this dance of shame. You claim people should always provide evidence and proof for their assertion. I am asking you to stop being a shameful hypocrite and practice what you preach.

Instead of practicing what you have been preaching you are here displaying your usual dance of shame.

You are a ridiculous hypocrite. Very few psychiatrist will want to touch your case.

butterflylion:


When you have nothing tenable to say you take off on your usual epileptic rants in delusion.

You keep demanding proof for something you claim does not exist and you never pause to ask yourself if you are mentally alright.

How can you be telling me to show you a juaairiirekkieo you declared does not exist? Where will I get the juaairiirekkieo to show you so you believe it is a juaairiirekkieo when you already have no idea what it looks, feels and smells like because to you it does not exist?

Do you have the inability to even comprehend what it means to say something does not exist?

Dalam0n:


You see your madness abi? You are a shameless lair and your lies will continue to hurt you and make you unstable.

You said that people SHOULD ALWAYS PROVIDE PROOF AND EVIDENCE FOR THE CLAIMS THEY MAKE.

I only asked you to do that which you have asserted and you are crying.

Who is talking about juaairiirekkieo? What is that?

We are talking about Yahweh whom you claim exist as God and have made many claims about it.

All I have done so far is ask you to provide evidence and proof of this assertion in accordance to what you have stated that people should always provide proof and evidence for their claims.

Where is your evidence and your proof thou shameless and ridiculous hypocrite. All I've do e is asked you to PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH, but as usual I know hypocrites always expect not to bw told to practice that which they preach. Once you tell them they loose it and start wailing and crying.

dalaman:


Ogbeni, show that Yahweh exist outsude your imaginations already or keep quiet.

butterflylion:


See how rabid you get and foam at the mouth over a God you have accepted does not exist.

They need to seriously call your mental health to question.

Let me break it down to your ignorant and deeply troubled mind.

YOU CANNOT DEMAND FOR EVIDENCE FOR THE NON EXISTENT!

Once you have a position that something does not exist then that removes you from those who seek evidence.

ONLY AGNOSTICS DEMAND EVIDENCE DUE TO THEIR UNCERTAINTIES.

You however are certain that God does not exist. This is as simply put as possible.

Are you an agnostic? Yes or no.

If Yes then you cease to be an atheist and has become a skeptic.

If No then you fall back to the above category and your demand nullifies itself for what does not exist cannot be provided as evidence to the one who declares its non existence for even when it is presented it would not be accepted or recognised simply because your very first premise states that IT DOES NOT EXIST.

You need to go back and receive lessons on logic because you have absolutely none of it.

butterflylion:


See how rabid you get and foam at the mouth over a God you have accepted does not exist.

They need to seriously call your mental health to question.

Let me break it down to your ignorant and deeply troubled mind.

YOU CANNOT DEMAND FOR EVIDENCE FOR THE NON EXISTENT!

Once you have a position that something does not exist then that removes you from those who seek evidence.

ONLY AGNOSTICS DEMAND EVIDENCE DUE TO THEIR UNCERTAINTIES.

You however are certain that God does not exist. This is as simply put as possible.

Are you an agnostic? Yes or no.

If Yes then you cease to be an atheist and has become a skeptic.

If No then you fall back to the above category and your demand nullifies itself for what does not exist cannot be provided as evidence to the one who declares its non existence for even when it is presented it would not be accepted or recognised simply because your very first premise states that IT DOES NOT EXIST.

You need to go back and receive lessons on logic because you have absolutely none of it.

Godpolymath:
Guy you are just going in circles,this arguement is senseless..A God that exist doesnt need humans to debate over it..

Dalam0n:
All.this uselect cries because you'very been told to practice that which you preach.



Shout up thou resident hypocrite. Your hypocrisy is seriously making you unstable.



Your logic is totally ridiculous. I can falsely claim that something doesn't exist and be made to change my mind by provision of evidence. It's very simple. Lets assume you came into my house and tell me that you saw a 2 polar bears playing in my compound after which they ran into the bush and I tell you that you are lying because polar bears do not do not exist in Nigeria in the wild. We argued for a while and you left in anger because I mocked you and called you ctazy for suggesting that you saw polar bears in my compound and insisted that they do not exist in Nigeria as a whole. After a while you went out and captured them and brought the polar bears and presented to me as evidence. Does the fact that I say that they not exist mean that I do not demand evidence? Do you reason at all before spweing your nonsense?




I can tell you to practice what you preach and provide evidence for your assertions. I know liars and hypocrites truly dislike that. It makes them lose their minds. Show me they say is the words liars dislike most. You have said that people should always provide proof and evidence for their claims, you've been asked to do that which you've states and you've started crying that I have no right to tell you because I can not demand for evidence. The other day you were telling an atheist that Jesus loves him endlessly after knowing that he doesn't believe in the existence of Jesus. When then were you telling someone that Jesus loves him when you know that he does not believe in Jesus? Can you see how crazy you are? You know that a person clearly says that a thing doesn't exist but you still went ahead and told him that the thing loves him endlessly and when he tells you to provide evidence for your claim based on your assertions that people should always provide evidence and proof for their claims you begin to cry and wail that bla bla meh meh, baa baa.

As long as you keep telling me about the existence of something which I say doesn't exist and making claims about it, I'll continue to tell you to practice that which you preach and show the evidence and proof as you said people should always do. You can cotinue with your dance of shame.

Godpolymath:
Guy you are just going in circles,this arguement is senseless..A God that exist doesnt need humans to debate over it..

butterflylion:


When people cannot realise that they are already having mental issues its pathetic to watch.

The way their addiction and rage over a God they claim does not exist has led them to this mentally wrecked state is worth shedding a tear or two in pity.

butterflylion:


You are actually the one going in rabid circles as atheists.

A God who has already been declared and accepted as non existent by atheists such as you are should no longer be giving you cause for concern and tormenting your every second of life and most of all it would not require you to constantly find yourselves talking about him in such a daily boring and monotonous manner as if he existed.

Your mind should be blank about him by now because you say he does not exist.

I am sure the thoughts of suphjiisseaaas has never crossed your mind right? Do you know anything call suphjiisseaaas that exists? Have you seen one?

If that does not exist it then would explain why you have not ever thought about or talked about suphjiisseaaas, then that should explain to you how it is you have a problem with your demand for evidence of agod dilemma despite originally declaring so assuredly that he does not exist.

Hint*** Read this post again so you get the message

butterflylion:


You lack basic knowledge of what you use to make arguments despite them being called a fallacy.

It is a fallacy to draw conclusions based precisely on ignorance, since this does not satisfactorily address issues of philosophic burden of proof.

Your false dichotomy excludes other options and shows how close minded you are with your argument from ignorance.

Simply saying absence of evidence is evidence of absence is silly and yes failure to disprove something can constitute its evidence for existence which itself is a logical fallacy same way a lack of evidence is said to be an evidence of absence. Both are logical fallacies which preclude other options such as the option that states that something can be unknowable and simply because it is unknowable does not make it non existent.

This brings me to the famous philosophical position which says " When a tree falls in the forest when there is nobody there does it make a noise"?.

I am sure if you give this thought you would see the many variables involved and not your usual one sided close minded atheistic positions.

butterflylion:


You are actually the one going in rabid circles as atheists.

A God who has already been declared and accepted as non existent by atheists such as you are should no longer be giving you cause for concern and tormenting your every second of life and most of all it would not require you to constantly find yourselves talking about him in such a daily boring and monotonous manner as if he existed.

Your mind should be blank about him by now because you say he does not exist.

I am sure the thoughts of suphjiisseaaas has never crossed your mind right? Do you know anything call suphjiisseaaas that exists? Have you seen one?

If that does not exist it then would explain why you have not ever thought about or talked about suphjiisseaaas, then that should explain to you how it is you have a problem with your demand for evidence of a God dilemma despite originally declaring so assuredly that he does not exist.

Hint*** Read this post again so you get the message

sKeetz:


Before I say anything further, I want you to give me your definition of god cause god means different things to different people. Just do that for me, and then watch me disprove it.

Dalam0n:


Or even telling people about how it should act. Butterflylion was telling Frank the other day that Jesus loves him endlessly.

Let's break this down, according to him Jesus painfully sacrificed his life for Frank so that he can save Frank from eternal damnation , in addition to that, Jesus is clained to have created the universe, Jesus is alive, he is very powerful, he can do all things, he WANTS Frank to know about his existence and also WANTS Frank to be in a PERSONAL relationship with him. He also WANTS Frank to know that he loves Frank endlessly but some how, some how it is butterflylion that is telling Frank about the endless love that Jesus (with all the attributes I've listed) has for him.

The fact that they can't see that they have lost it is really hilarious.

Delusion at its finest.

Godpolymath:
No need arguing with you.

I am sure if majority of the people on earth believe on something so stupid and ridiculous ...you will keep shut about it

butterflylion:


Sorry to burst your bubble but God is beyond definition by the human mind because he is beyond our scope of reasoning. Any definition given to God now is simply human conjecture.

So if you can disprove this God I just talked about then fire away.

butterflylion:


Sorry to burst your bubble but God is beyond definition by the human mind because he is beyond our scope of reasoning. Any definition given to God now is simply human conjecture.

So if you can disprove this God I just talked about then fire away.

Dalam0n:


How then did you get to know this things? How did you get to know that God is beyond human scope of reasoning? Through your imaginations abi? If every definition given to God is human conjecture, then that makes God a human conjecture.

Ogbeni you've just shown that your God is nothing but human conjecture.

sKeetz:


You are such a clown

This your so called god is beyond human definition and scope of reasoning yet you know he exists and you know what he wants from you. Your evasive tactics and logic twisting is very childish.

butterflylion:


Knowing what God wants and knowing that God exists is totally different from giving an accurate definition of him.

You should try and manifest some intelligence sometimes because if you felt they were the same or even remotely linked then I can loan you a few tons of intelligence from my reserves as a buffer.

butterflylion:


Smh and more smh.

Realm 1 (beyond our universe) ---- God

Realm 2 (within our universe) ----Man

Man attempts to define[b] God while within his universe based on what is revealed at his level about God[/b] who is beyond his universe and he now assumes that what he has been shown is the totality of God despite being limited and confined to his realm.

If he assumes that his definition accurately captures who God is despite his very limitations and boundaries then it would be the same as a child in the womb assuming his perception of his womb environment is all there is despite knowing he is limited to the womb.

This talk right here and now is not within the scope of capture for atheists so I expect you not to get the gist.

sKeetz:


You keep yapping about intelligence like you are some Albert Einstein whereas am yet to see any work credited to you. Your ability to twist logic and garnish it with a little english grammar doesn't make you intelligent- it only makes you insincere and cunning. You are only intelligent to people who cant reason for themself.

sKeetz:


You keep yapping about intelligence like you are some Albert Einstein whereas am yet to see any work credited to you. Your ability to twist logic and garnish it with a little english grammar doesn't make you intelligent- it only makes you insincere and cunning. You are only intelligent to people who cant reason for themself.

Dalam0n:


What do you man by beyond our universe? How have you demonstrated that there is something beyond the universe?



What has been revealed about God and where is this revelation? How do we objectively know that this revelation is from God? What was shwon to man and when and where was it shown? How do you access this realm of God to know that man's realm is limited compared to it?



How is man's definition limited?

Ogbeni define what God is and stop running all over the place and crying.

This talk right here and now is not within the scope of capture for atheists so I expect you not to get the gist

butterflylion:


If you are done with your monologues it still doesn't add any iota of sense to your previous post and it surely wouldn't change my response already given.

butterflylion:


As expected!

So I will simply reiterate my earlier comment

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butterflylion:


If you are done with your monologues it still doesn't add any iota of sense to your previous post and it surely wouldn't change my response already given.

butterflylion:


The burden of proof is on whoever makes any claim.

Claims can be negative or positive and both claims are arrived at based on knowledge. Nobody can say God does not exist or God exists without being first convinced of this assertion based on knowledge or are atheists now FAITH DRIVEN?

Any atheist who declares that God does not exist should know that just as you said, " extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence".

Where is the evidence of the atheist which supports his knowledge based claim?

sKeetz:


You want me to prove that a god you cannot define doesnt exist? You are more dumb than I give you credit for.