rvp20182:
So Nigeria couldn't conduct census in 2016 (kenya has CONDUCTED CENSUS every 10yrs without fail since 1948) and holy cow - the cooking of census started in 1962!

Shocking reading - what is believable in Nigeria - everything is cooked.
https://qz.com/1221472/the-story-of-how-nigerias-census-figures-became-weaponized/

Ohhh,Dangotelanders!? Have you read this?

The story of Nigeria’s 1962 census never gets old. Southern politicians seeking to end the north’s dominance of Nigerian politics decided that the only way to do it was through the census. Population figures at the time determined not only parliamentary representation but also revenue allocation and employee distribution in the civil service.

Ati,

Although the final results were not made public, the preliminary results were quite clear as to what had happened: the north’s population had gone up from 16.5 million in the last census in 1952 to 22.5 million, an increase of 30%. But in some parts of the east, the population had increased by up to 200% and more than 70% in general. The west also reported an increase of 70%.

It gets worse!

The northern leaders were not about to take that lying down. A[b] new census was held in 1963 and this time, an additional 8.5 million people were discovered in the north bringing the total to 31 million for the north[/b]—a figure higher than the population of every other country in Africa at the time—and 56 million for Nigeria as a whole.

My,my,my!

But then a chance conversation with a friend produced a eureka moment: “every census in Nigeria follows the formula of the 1963 one”

Idk where to begin. We all have problems but really when I see this mountain of issues I tend to agree with the Biaframob despite deep seated philosophical agreements on their political grievance culture. It only gets worse if you can imagine that!

Nigeria has been due another census since 2016 but lack of funds—the Nigerian government can only fund 51% of the costs and is relying on donors to fund the remaining 49%—mean it is now scheduled to hold this year at a cost of 272 billion naira ($759 million) “if necessary logistics are provided”, according to the director general of the National Population Commission (NPC).

I'm waiting for a Dangotelander to refer to wiki and their 500 bn $ economy for the 14863rd time. As you've shown repeatedly with your world class professional forensic econometrics even official figures are false! I specifically recall your agriculture stats revealing their vitimbi recipe they used to cook their GDP-I still lol at that ,btw!

The agriculture ministry recently put out a tweet where it quoted a data aggregation website, Index Mundi, as proof rice production had gone up in Nigeria. The irony of the country’s agriculture ministry being unable to produce its own data on a supposed achievement and having to rely on data from a foreign website was not lost on many people.

Anyway,its obvious why these guys can't understand stats or logic its a sociocultural thing. BASICALLY THE ENTIRE POLITICAL NARRATIVE WAS FOUNDED UPON DISHONESTY AT INDEPENDENCE. SIX DECADES LATER LIES AND FICTION HAS PERMEATED THE WHOLE NATIONAL FABRIC. IT WILL TAKE A MAJOR MIRACLE TO REPOGRAM THE NATIONAL PSYCHE.
You were right as usual when you said Dangoteland needs national therapy.

Lagos neighborhoods are mixed. This is due to strong traditional institutions. Having a well built home beside a village looking house is not uncommon in Lagos. Nairobi on the otherhand, the class difference is well pronounced. Rich and upper middle class live in places in Runda, Karen, Kilimani, Lavington. Lower middle class and poor folks live in Buru-buru, South B.

The wretched live in Dandora, Kabiria, etc.

Lagos neighborhoods have a weird mixture.

Jay254:


Just google the percentage of slum area in Nairobi, its 5% of the total land mass unlike Lagos where 5% is where beauty exists.

Kenya has it's urgly side also we have never dispute that.

Jay254:
This is Jos plateau Nigeria

With a population of almost 1m

The better side of Jos

There's alot of serious conflict in this area i believe between Christians and Muslims(pray for peace).It's in the middle belt of Nigeria. It also is a mining hub in Nigeria.




















What type of mineral is this? Looks beautiful

Jay254:



Very interesting, so basically a City to you guys is basically about population?

I like your education system.

yes population then infrastructure. in Kenya we only hear about Nairobi, Nairobi which is not even half of Lagos population.

but in Nigeria many of them, Ibadan-has the first African skyscraper. undoubtedly largest city in Africa 3k plus area still Sprawling
Lagos - the big Apple, I v nothing to say
Portharcourt
Abuja
kano
Benin city
Enugu
kaduna
calarba
Ilorin and many more

Even Kenya can't compete Lagos Economy
have a nice day

nwoke37:


The better side of Jos

There's alot of serious conflict in this area i believe between Christians and Muslims(pray for peace).It's in the middle belt of Nigeria. It also is a mining hub in Nigeria.




















What type of mineral is this? Looks beautiful

In all this small towns and cities one thing is common Only the roads... Nothing more

Jay254:


In all this small towns and cities one thing is common Only the roads... Nothing more

What do you mean? Are u saying kenyan roads and Nigerian roads are similar or Ngerian city roads are similar?

NairobiWalker:


1. 80% of Lagos is a slum. You must be out of your mind to think only Makoko is a slum in Lagos. This for instance is not Makoko, it is Ajegunle.

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Hahaha, I hope now everyone can agree with me that you are dumb? Look at the backgroud of the picture you posted of Ajegunle being a slum. Can't you see beautiful houses even with a satelite there?

The picture you posted is not a slum, it is just an unsanitized backyard of normal houses with few illegal structures.

Why can't you gives us an aerial view of Ajegunle showing dozens of shanty houses like we see in Kibera, Mathare etc? You just showed us a backyard refuse dump with one or 2 illegal structures claiming it is a slum.
Please I encourage you to go and collect your school fees back from the schools you attended cos clearly you were a waste of funds.

In case you could not see the background in the pictures you posted clearly, I have helped you to do some editing below.
Can you see the houses at the background?

The wealth of a country is not in the ground but all around us .nigeria has a lot of wealth in the ground like democratic republic of congo but on the other hand kenya is a better built country and a better structured country. I am a nigeria but come sunshine or rain I like kenya.

NairobiWalker:


2. If you meant typical low class and showed us your typical middle class then you're a liar. You wanted to paint a glories picture of your low class but we caught you.

I said 'low middleclass & low class'. It was a mixed statement. If you cannot understand this, then kindly follow my advice above and ask for a refund of your school fees.

3. People who are not stupid like you can accurately guess your intentions based on what you say.

This forum is not for voodoo mind readers ok? If that is your profession, look elsewhere. This is an online discourse forum where people are are responsible and judged solely for the things they type here and not what some voodoo mind readers like you try to form in their deluded minds.

So can you act like an educated person and take me accountable for only the things I type here? Thanks.

NairobiWalker:
Now that you've agreed Surulere is crappy and not worthy of comparison with Langata, let me show you where low class Kenyans live.
Umoja, Nairobi

[img]https://www.the-star.co.ke/sites/default/files/styles/new_full_content/public/465760.jpg?itok=u-RsZWZn[/img]



That's our low class up there.

Hmmm, I will give you an all round disgrace for your lying ass here.
So, you mean Umoja is solely for low class Kenyans?

Look below and see the lowest house rent prices I could find for for a 2 bedroom appartment in Umoja.
Over 700,000 naira per annum?

then compare it with that of Surulere where such can be gotten for half the price!

Now, I see why the majority of Nairobians live in slums. It seems like housing in Nairobi is quite expensive.. And mind you, Surulere is not even the cheapest part of Lagos, as it still has lots of middle class people.

Another thing is that these 2 bedroom appartments in Umoja are all multiple story buildings (barack houses as we say in Nigeria, with so many tenants and no privacy) where people must climb 5 or 6 story building to get to their houses at the top, yet still so expensive. And this is supposed to be the poorest part of Nairobi save for the slums.

Please I need other Kenyans to help me explain this. Why is house rent in Nairobi so expensive?

TayserMahiri, mtis, kikuyu1, rvp20182

this is the reel Nigeria

Falz - This Is Nigeria


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW_xEqCWrm0#

Natural01:
Bull shit, you misstated Surulere is crappy, obvious you don't know facts

SURULERE

Don't mind the ignorant KiberaWalker aka NairobiWalker.

He thinks Lagos is like Nairobi. The truth is that Lagos is more than a city like Nairobi now.
Lagos is a mega city. It is a conurbation of many cities and towns in one mega urban area.

The entire Lagos state of 3,577km² has been completely urbanized to the extent that it has spill over into neighbouring Ogun state and many parts of Ogun close to Lagos have been urbanized.

Surulere as a town of it's own under Lagos has it's own different neighborhoods, both the ones for the high middleclass, low middleclass and low income, but the low middleclass and low income populations dominate the town.

sufferNsmiling:
The wealth of a country is not in the ground but all around us .nigeria has a lot of wealth in the ground like democratic republic of congo but on the other hand kenya is a better built country and a better structured country. I am a nigeria but come sunshine or rain I like kenya.

Oh come on, don't be ashamed to just say you are a Kenyan. We all know that, so don't think you're fooling anyone here.

sufferNsmiling:
this is the reel Nigeria

Falz - This Is Nigeria


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW_xEqCWrm0#

Of course this is Nigeria. No one here has been denying all these.

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Enugu




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Enugu train station:


Chances are if u watched nollywood movies with the big mansion, it was probably shot in Enugu





Here's a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRvOgHXXaKQ

This city is also planning a monorail[/quote

You know your continuous pic spam reveals more than you'd like. Wtf is these banal display proving? It shows LOW EXPECTATIONS AND EXTREMELY MODEST AMBITIONS WHICH ACTUALLY MAY BE YOUR COLLECTIVE BEST!

254tobby:


First,that stupid question go and ask your forefathers.

And whatever you yap madly about them,they are still categorised to be urban areas,yes they're not cities but are major towns which are close enough to be cities because they're also growing rapidly as well.

Urban places ain't only measured with its population weight but also infrastructure within,kisii town is a case example of a town in western Kenya,its massively growing with the hands of interested Kenyan investors and also on the ground of infrastructure supported by its governor,it hasn't reach to the level of being called a city but a MAJOR TOWN,and its population is less than 1million.Before 2025,kisii town will be a city if it maintain its tempo.

So population is a limiting factor in some Kenyan towns that's why they haven't graduated to be called a city unlike your Nigeria where people keep on conjugating to alarm up your population to fill up your slum cities as RVP20182 usually puts it.

Nothing serious to be argued there since population is a natural factor,unless you're foolishly blinded.

Since you know that your towns are yet to become cities, then why compare them with those of Nigeria that are already cities?

You should have just waited till 2025 shouldn't you?

For a place to be called a city, it has to have an economy of it's own.

Why are you hating on Nigerians for being predominantly urban? Many of our forefathers have been urban long before the white men came many centuries ago. Unlike you Black Kenyans who have been living in forests and bushes until the white men came.

[quote author=kikuyu1 post=67966659][/quote]
He is showing you that urban life in Nigeria spread across to cities like Enugu, Kano, Warri, Benin, Calabar, and not just Lagos, Abuja, PortHarcourt. This is Unlike Kenya where outside Nairobi and maybe Mombassa, it seems there are only villages.

obaaderemi:
Why are you calling the OP,tonyebarcanister stupid after all he has done for you and your fellow Little Indians? He put the title of his thread in your favour and you are still angry all because your country has been exposed brutally here. You are a small country yet you continue to struggle monumentally against a country of over 180m people in terms of development stats. Everything you pride yourselves on has been exposed as been influenced by foreigners including Nigerians. Your biggest ICT company(barring Safaricom) Cellulant was even cofounded by a Nigerian. And I hear your biggest bank started as a branch of an Indian bank. It's so pathetic that with all your bragging here,everything meaningful in Kenya has to bear the touch of foreigners. You should begin to change that. You need to buckle up.

Hahahaha. Kenya's biggest bank started out as a branch of an Indian bank?

So all this while we have been calling Kenya 'little India' we were perfectly on point.

Take away the touch of foreigners from Kenya and Somalia would be better than the outcome

nwoke37:


What do you mean? Are u saying kenyan roads and Nigerian roads are similar or Ngerian city roads are similar?

When nigerans show pictures of towns and cities they only focus on the roads.

Nowenuse:


Hahahaha. Kenya's biggest bank started out as a branch of an Indian bank?

So all this while we have been calling Kenya 'little India' we were perfectly on point.

Take away the touch of foreigners from Kenya and Somalia would be better than the outcome

Yeah the Kenyan Commercial Bank(KCB) was formed as a branch of an lndian bank.
lt's surprising some of the things you'll find on Kenya when you take some time to make just a little research on them.

[quote author=kikuyu1 post=67966659][/quote]

I thought we were comparing Kenyan cities and Nigerian. Obviously, Enugu isn't up to par with it having dusty roads and and poor quality buildings.

Did u see the pictures posted on kisumu and eldoret by your kenyan fellows, those cities also have dusty,dirty roads.

That aside enugu city is not the best Nigeria has to offer in terms of urban areas. I rank calabar and uyo above it. Some places in Uyo look like the West

[quote author=kikuyu1 post=67966659][/quote]

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Jay254:


When nigerans show pictures of towns and cities they only focus on the roads.

So what, roads are a major part of cities. If you notice the roads I show also have an aesthetic appeal...

dadark:


what makes you think am albino.....?...i am the darkside.....am pure darkness....

I just think u r albino and thats how its going to be dude! I dont think twice !

What does your darkness stand for? precisely

naijalander:
Lagos neighborhoods are mixed. This is due to strong traditional institutions. Having a well built home beside a village looking house is not uncommon in Lagos. Nairobi on the otherhand, the class difference is well pronounced. Rich and upper middle class live in places in Runda, Karen, Kilimani, Lavington. Lower middle class and poor folks live in Buru-buru, South B.

The wretched live in Dandora, Kabiria, etc.

Lagos neighborhoods have a weird mixture.

Meaning?
Would you consider Kenya to be a more capitalistic society than Nigeria?

254tobby:


You're always madly obsessed with foreigners owning businesses in Kenya,but the case is not that way,like banks here very few of them are foreign owned and you'll never accept This because of bitterness thinking that you've made it in life,even in your Nigeria,there are some white businesses there.
Safaricom is Kenyan owned but because of your stupid ignorance with giant ego,you refused to admit it after me and RVP20182 explained it to you,now you want us to sing for you that safaricom thing everyday on this thread?Or is it that you've soked some pant in your brain making you to get some difficulty in getting that concept?Guy you're not a child to be babyfed,maybe you're an adult on pampers and we don't know yet.Take it leave it cause after all we never waste our data and energy knowing more about a shithole dangote nation in west Africa.

Population is a bullcrap excuse to use because you have 180million people yet 70% of them might be illetrate fools..

You Little Indians are at your funniest when you are angry. Trust me, you will always lose your cool as long as you keep visiting nairaland. You said you will never waste your data and energy on knowing about Nigeria, but you are wasting far more than that....You are wasting your life. How many days of your life have you spent on this Nigerian site? Be honest.

kikuyu1:


Really? What exactly have you heard? Tell us more cause imo it looks real but then again your unparalleled insights into real and make believe are always welcome.

There's a lot of unclear things concerning that project. Saw a news feature where the guy (Mwale) is in multiple law suits for not paying suppliers.

Nowenuse:


Hahahaha. Kenya's biggest bank started out as a branch of an Indian bank?

So all this while we have been calling Kenya 'little India' we were perfectly on point.

Take away the touch of foreigners from Kenya and Somalia would be better than the outcome

Kenya is Little India and Little India is Kenya. It might interest you to know that the Somali immigrants in Kenya are actually richer and better than the native Kenyans. The Somalis live in Eastleigh, an affluent neighborhood while the Kenyans live in huge slums.

author=nwoke37 post=67961534]

Enugu

Is there benefit painting the trees white?

obaaderemi:
Kenya is Little India and Little India is Kenya. It might interest you to know that the Somali immigrants in Kenya are actually richer and better than the native Kenyans. The Somalis live in Eastleigh, an affluent neighborhood while the Kenyans live in huge slums.

Get online and search for Eastleigh pictures and post them here. Clearly you dont know what affluent stands for. Majority of the Somalis in Eastleigh are Kenyan Somali not Somali's from Somalia. So your point is desperation as usual.

After reading some more pages, what I can deduce from this thread is that it's full of misinformation and wrong assertions.

rvp20182:
And really even in population - Nigeria cities are not that great.
Only 5 of their slum cities are 1M people plus.
1 Lagos[a] Lagos 8,048,430
2 Kano[b] Kano 2,828,861
3 Ibadan[c] Oyo 2,559,853
4 Benin City[d] Edo 1,147,188
5 Port Harcourt 1.05m

Kenya has 3 cities with 1M plus people.
1. Nairobi City 3,375,000 (Nairobi Metro Metro 6,547,547)
2. Mombasa City 1,200,000
3. Kisumu City 1,068,826

great population census.

Kudos.