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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 12:06am On May 28, 2018
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by dadark: 12:19am On May 28, 2018
TayserMahiri:


No seriously dude, was asking because you are so concerned as if you think Kenya is Tanzania. Albinos here are damn safe, so long as they dont get close to the Tanzanian border.

then show me their pictures,you retared.....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:23am On May 28, 2018
nwoke37:


No idea... my guess would be some type of water resovoir

What's the one in Nairobi used for?

No idea either.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:25am On May 28, 2018
nwoke37:


I was talking about mainly infrastructure(mainly roads) which comes with aesthetics such as lush lawns and some landmarks

Mainly roads Why mainly roads? Infrastructure is a wide term you are only narrowing down to roads for some cheeky reason.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 12:29am On May 28, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Mainly roads Why mainly roads? Infrastructure is a wide term you are only narrowing down to roads for some cheeky reason.

Because chances are the Kenyan cities probably have better electricity and water supply... tongue
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:37am On May 28, 2018
Daejoyoung:

There's no evidence of that, they met and invented this in 2004 after discussing together for hours, inspired by a previous discussion they had with other guests on a dinner table. Much of the success and Livewire of Cellulant at his early stages was in Nigeria, so much so that some foreign websites even say that it was founded in Nigeria. So without the Nigerian being involved as well as the Nigerian factor, Cellulant would definitely not be what it is today. This is the reason the Cellulant story has it's Nigerian story as the major part, and why Bolaji had to be given the platform to speak for long on how they started in Nigeria in that video.
Note that Bolaji himself once worked for the world bank.
As for Mark Zuckerbeg, note that he is never referred to as a cofounder of Facebook but simply as the founder. You should be proud Africans are getting together to do great things and not diminish the effort of any.

What are we supposed to assume now. Did Njoroge overbear on Bolaji. Because I know that the top leadership at Cellulant is Kenyan dominated. You can see that here

https://www.cellulant.com/our-people/#

Also, follow the process map HERE to see where Nigeria first appears. The idea began in 2002 and Nigeria came into the fore in 2012, a cool 10 years later when 14.5 million Nigerian farmers registered.


I agree we shouldnt be arguing over such stuff but folks can argue over anything here no matter how mundane.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:37am On May 28, 2018
nwoke37:


Because chances are the Kenyan cities probably have better electricity and water supply... tongue

Definitely. You might beat our smaller towns on roads but not an anything else.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:39am On May 28, 2018
nwoke37:


Oh please, your population growth rate is the same as Nigeria's 2.6%

Nigeria should slow down.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:42am On May 28, 2018
nwoke37:


[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-40-22.png?w=980[/img]
[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-39-55.png?w=980[/img]

It runs in the night too

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[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-36-23.png?w=980[/img]
[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-36-56.png?w=980[/img]
[img]https://defensenigeria.files./2018/04/2018-04-12-01-38-18.png?w=980[/img]

Do you doubt the cable cars too?

Donno why something feels fishy about the pics. Looks like a test run or something that is not usual. I dont doubt the cable cars tho but the light rail nah.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:50am On May 28, 2018
dadark:


then show me their pictures, you retared.....

Seriously, am not that bad. You dont have to be offensive to pre-empt preconceived attacks from me.

Here is an albino girl who topped Kenya's primary school final exam and became an instant celebrity.

And if you are albino, we love u smiley

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 1:16am On May 28, 2018
GERALD710:

Nigerian cities are Unifromly slum like low income areas starting from Uyo and below.
ESPECIALLY Kano and Ibadan!!!Ibadan reminds me of Bombolulu in Mombasa actually.



Thankfully, the while world know where the largest slums are located grin


Bear in mind though that Kano and Ibadan are ancient cities.. they have been in existence long before the colonial masters set foot in Nigeria. a lot of the buildings in those two cities are actually very old.. that being said,most ancient Nigerian cities are classified into two part: the old and the new grin ..if you know,you know

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 1:32am On May 28, 2018
254tobby:


Thika-Onitsha

Kiambu-jos

Machakos-warri

Voi-kaduna

Kericho-ibadan

Kitale-enugu

Busia-owerri

Naivasha-maiduguri

Kakamega-Awka

Malindi-Aba

Kisii-Benin

Are you now satisfied grin



Thika is a town,Onitsha is a. city
Kiambu is another town while Jos is a city.



All the places u mentioned are bloody towns.. grin. ..Maybe you need to consult Wikipedia, oxford dictionary and the UN for the real meaning of a city...
I. wasn't. done with Nigerian cities yet... here's more . grin

Asaba
Ilorin
Akure
Zaria
Abeokuta
Minna
Nsukka
Nnewi


grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 1:37am On May 28, 2018
TayserMahiri:


And what was their response? grin


Most of them tell me they like uncle Bob for his none nonsense attitude toward the West. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 6:11am On May 28, 2018
TayserMahiri:


What are we supposed to assume now. Did Njoroge overbear on Bolaji. Because I know that the top leadership at Cellulant is Kenyan dominated. You can see that here

https://www.cellulant.com/our-people/#

Also, follow the process map HERE to see where Nigeria first appears. The idea began in 2002 and Nigeria came into the fore in 2012, a cool 10 years later when 14.5 million Nigerian farmers registered.


I agree we shouldnt be arguing over such stuff but folks can argue over anything here no matter how mundane.
The arguement at first was that a Kenyan company Cellulant is doing very well in Nigeria, this was the prime example by rvp of a Kenyan company (founded by kenyans) doing well on the continent.
Then we brought to his notice that it (like Andela) was co-founded by a Nigerian and it has the Nigerian factor hence it's no surprise it's doing well in Nigeria and all over. Now you came here to say the Nigerian was employed by the Kenyan, again in the Cellulant story there is no evidence of that, even in your video the Kenyan makes it clear(whether in 2002 or 2004), it started when he met with Bolaji.
Then you compared them to Facebook founders and again l proved you wrong because Facebook Mark Zuckerbeg is never referred to as a cofounder. So you've been the one assuming things here and stretching the arguement because you wouldn't state things the way they are.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 6:35am On May 28, 2018
Daejoyoung:

The arguement at first was that a Kenyan company Cellulant is doing very well in Nigeria, this was the prime example by rvp of a Kenyan company (founded by kenyans) doing well on the continent.
Then we brought to his notice that it (like Andela) was co-founded by a Nigerian and it has the Nigerian factor hence it's no surprise it's doing well in Nigeria and all over. Now you came here to say the Nigerian was employed by the Kenyan, again in the Cellulant story there is no evidence of that, even in your video the Kenyan makes it clear(whether in 2002 or 2004), it started when he met with Bolaji.
Then you compared them to Facebook founders and again l proved you wrong because Facebook Mark Zuckerbeg is never referred to as a cofounder. So you've been the one assuming things here and stretching the arguement because you wouldn't state things the way they are.



Believe me when I call them kibera clowns and villagers.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:43am On May 28, 2018
Nigeria is 190M strong; Kenya is merely 48M; so you don't expect Kenya to have the same number of cities as Nigeria. Obviously you'd need to compare Nigeria with entire East Africa (Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda,TZ and Kenya) - total pop should roughly be equal to Nigeria or less - and you'll know East Africa has way more and bigger cities than Nigeria.

As far as Kenya goes - we have cities & towns - that though smaller - are more modern & liveable. You got mega slums. If Nigeria was half decent - you'd be talking of about 30 cities - real cities!

Danielnino00:



Thika is a town,Onitsha is a. city
Kiambu is another town while Jos is a city.



All the places u mentioned are bloody towns.. grin. ..Maybe you need to consult Wikipedia, oxford dictionary and the UN for the real meaning of a city...
I. wasn't. done with Nigerian cities yet... here's more . grin

Asaba
Ilorin
Akure
Zaria
Abeokuta
Minna
Nsukka
Nnewi


grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:53am On May 28, 2018
Cooked GDP.
Nigeria last year imported goods worth 9.5 trillion Naira. This translate to 30 billion (or less if you use real naira-usd exchange rate) usd.
Kenya last year imported googs worth 1.7 trillion Kshs. This translate to 17B usd.

You cannot cook imported goods.

500B giant economy (now officially at 380B - market rate 320B) - can only import 30B dollars worth of goods against kenya's 17B!!!!!!!!!!

Totally baked.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:04am On May 28, 2018
As Buhari jets in and out of London hospitals..Uhuru bags's 2018 Africa road builder award for trans-formative work that kenya is doing in road, railways and air transport infrastructure. The first time the award is awarded to one country.
http://www.africanreview.com/events/event-news/the-africa-road-builders-2018-names-kenya-s-president-winner-of-trophee-babacar-ndiaye

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:12am On May 28, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Donno why something feels fishy about the pics. Looks like a test run or something that is not usual. I dont doubt the cable cars tho but the light rail nah.

Those selfies give me the same impression and this is Dangoteland so........

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 10:14am On May 28, 2018
rvp20182:
Cooked GDP.
Nigeria last year imported goods worth 9.5 trillion Naira. This translate to 30 billion (or less if you use real naira-usd exchange rate) usd.
Kenya last year imported googs worth 1.7 trillion Kshs. This translate to 17B usd.

You cannot cook imported goods.

500B giant economy (now officially at 380B - market rate 320B) - can only import 30B dollars worth of goods against kenya's 17B!!!!!!!!!!

Totally baked.

This idiot never took a course on economics. We simply higher and favourable balance of trade than you foolish kenyans
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:15am On May 28, 2018
rvp20182:
Cooked GDP.
Nigeria last year imported goods worth 9.5 trillion Naira. This translate to 30 billion (or less if you use real naira-usd exchange rate) usd.
Kenya last year imported googs worth 1.7 trillion Kshs. This translate to 17B usd.

You cannot cook imported goods.

500B giant economy (now officially at 380B - market rate 320B) - can only import 30B dollars worth of goods against kenya's 17B!!!!!!!!!!


Totally baked.

THE THREAD IS DEAD! And you do know half of that 30 bn$ is HIM Dangote's personal poo leaving the remaining 15 bn$ for 180 mn of his subjects.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darfay: 10:17am On May 28, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Donno why something feels fishy about the pics. Looks like a test run or something that is not usual. I dont doubt the cable cars tho but the light rail nah.

And so y should dat be your problem. Whether it fails or not is no business of neighbouring akwa ibom residents y should that b your problem from thousands of miles away after all you will never set foot on calabar till the end of your miserable life
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:22am On May 28, 2018
We are not talking balance of trade. Yeah you export tonnes of oil - 50B worth of that - of course most money remain with Shells & oil barons ...and what your federal gov get I think is maybe 10-15B dollars...but here you're struggling to import goods worth 30B dollars...and you cannot even find the dollars to import that...real black market exchange rate is oscillate btw 360 -500!
darfay:


This idiot never took a course on economics. We simply higher and favourable balance of trade than you foolish kenyans

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:25am On May 28, 2018
Precisely. South Africa which has solid GDP figures of around $300B - imports around $90-100B (and export more). Kenya which has GDP of around 70-80B - import around 17-20B. Nigeria which claims to have 400B GDP is struggling to import 30B (using official exchange rate) - otherwise if we use real exchange rate - we are talking 25B dollars - just about as much as we import smiley smiley.

This correlate with taxes smiley - so you see it's not that Nigeria levy low taxes - there is simply NOTHING TO TAX. The economy has collapsed and whole country depend on the Oil industry & Dangote maybe - which is controlled by Shells & company.


kikuyu1:


THE THREAD IS DEAD! And you do know half of that 30 bn$ is HIM Dangote's personal poo leaving the remaining 15 bn$ for 180 mn of his subjects.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 10:31am On May 28, 2018
rvp20182:
We are not talking balance of trade. Yeah you export tonnes of oil - 50B worth of that - of course most money remain with Shells & oil barons ...and what your federal gov get I think is maybe 10-15B dollars...but here you're struggling to import goods worth 30B dollars...and you cannot even find the dollars to import that...real black market exchange rate is oscillate btw 360 -500!
The Buhari Government has been so much against imports, and there are import licenses which l don't totally support personally. Just mind your business jarry.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:33am On May 28, 2018
TayserMahiri:


grin grin grin

Nowe has a knack for nonsense. He wants nothing except you show him Kibera which will make him very happy. Nice one grin

I already observed that sometime back. lol. grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:34am On May 28, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Bruh, we can go with their logic and conclude that Kibera is a wealthy surburb because it is close to the CBD.

According to his logic - yeah, that makes sense..................and Karen is a very poor neighborhood since it's very far from the CBD.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:37am On May 28, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Dude, just say there are no malls where you live or show us pictures if any. Also, show us your neighborhood supermarkets and groceries. Dont infect us with villageosity

How can you not like something you have no access to? That's like an ordinary Kenyan saying they hate winter. grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:41am On May 28, 2018
rvp20182:
Precisely. South Africa which has solid GDP figures of around $300B - imports around $90-100B (and export more). Kenya which has GDP of around 70-80B - import around 17-20B. Nigeria which claims to have 400B GDP is struggling to import 30B (using official exchange rate) - otherwise if we use real exchange rate - we are talking 25B dollars - just about as much as we import smiley smiley.

This correlate with taxes smiley - so you see it's not that Nigeria levy low taxes - there is simply NOTHING TO TAX. The economy has collapsed and whole country depend on the Oil industry & Dangote maybe - which is controlled by Shells & company.



Btw,your breakdowns are simple enough even for Dangotelanders and their comically inadequate adult literacy class called JAMB. They know the truth so they scream even louder about Kibera trying to drown out the truth. If we were like them we could pretend our economy were twice its size-but for what gain? That short term dishonesty is for our W African ogas.
KEEP IT COMING!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:43am On May 28, 2018
You simply can't find dollars to import stuff. If you have favourable exchange rate - you'd be swimming in forex - you won't be struggling to get forex and they won't exist a black market.
Daejoyoung:

The Buhari Government has been so much against imports, and there are import licenses which l don't totally support personally. Just mind your business jarry.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:44am On May 28, 2018
Danielnino00:




Thankfully, the while world know where the largest slums are located grin


Bear in mind though that Kano and Ibadan are ancient cities.. they have been in existence long before the colonial masters set foot in Nigeria. a lot of the buildings in those two cities are actually very old.. that being said,most ancient Nigerian cities are classified into two part: the old and the new grin ..if you know,you know

Thankfully when somebody lands in Nairobi or Mombasa and wants to see what Kenyan slums look like, they have to request to be taken to Kibera. Meanwhile in Nigeria such things are non existent.............you land and you see a slum. You don't have to request to be taken anywhere.

Did you know that Lamu is older than both Kano and Ibadan? Did you know that some of these beautiful Lamu buildings are older than those Ibadan and Kano eyesores?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:50am On May 28, 2018
For Nigeria size of economy - allegedly - the amount of machinery+equipment+plant (Or maybe BUHARI-DANGOTE is manufacturing them now smiley - they would need to import annually would be around 100B dollars - but right now they are struggling to import wheat+rice smiley from the little that Shell-BP gives them (10-15$B) and whatever else the diaspora send(10-15$B). That is all there is in Nigeria economy - it's KAPUT. Remove Oil and remove diaspora remittance - and the thing is dead as dodo.That is why Nigerians are risking everything to sail to Europe and even poor country like Kenya is heaven to them.

The next export they have is coca nuts - which is worth 10% of what Ghana & Ivory coast do - I think slightly about 300M dollars grin grin Then rubber;maybe some shrimps and I guess that is about it smiley

kikuyu1:


Btw,your breakdowns are simple enough even for Dangotelanders and their comically inadequate adult literacy class called JAMB. They know the truth so they scream even louder about Kibera trying to drown out the truth. If we were like them we could pretend our economy were twice its size-but for what gain? That short term dishonesty is for our W African ogas.
KEEP IT COMING!

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