obaaderemi:
E pain am die.

Get another line

TayserMahiri:


I was trying to save the lots of energy you use every day trying to silence other Nigerians so that they dont say the truth here. I know you help.

What energy? Its as easy as ABC.Nigerians here are kicking your arse on a daily basis and keep exposing your lies.

TayserMahiri:


So they did?

Yeah, they did

TayserMahiri:


Get another line

Are you so used to reading my lines like your Qur'an?

just feel like y'all cant sleep well without some therapy from the 254


Kenya

obaaderemi:
What energy? Its as easy as ABC.Nigerians here are kicking your arse on a daily basis and keep exposing your lies.

The only person who gets kicked is you and your boyfriend Nowe. Both from the Kenyan side and the Nigerian side

obaaderemi:
Are you so used to reading my lines like your Qur'an?

Thats not your line dude! Its a general Nigerian line, especially when cornered. Even your memes come up when things go south.

TayserMahiri:


The fact that Kenyans are here should tell you how we got to the White House and ruled the frickin planet for a decade.

You should be ashamed of yourselves. If Obama's dad had had any hand in raising that child, Obama would have ended up as one of you arseholess littering forums from Tanzania to Nigeria.

Nowenuse:


Can you prove that they are slums like Kibera?

Most of those houses you call slums have modern toilet and kitchen pipe facilities.
They are built with concrete blocks and are appartment styled. They have ceilings, cemented floors, a solid foundation.

They cannot be classified as slums in like fashion with Kibera or Mathare where most structures are built with temporary materials.

These houses have toilet facilities and ceilings?
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3724192_ajegunlelagosslumnigeria_jpege7c935ae2d296c980caf68e5fa8834e9

TayserMahiri:


Why slums? Has land repossession kicked off?

Most of the people want to establish more informal settlement since the announcement of this plan, No, No it is still on table of discussions , More signs of informal settlement is already in the house But our government is working very hard to control the situations at this moment
South Africa is beautiful


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR20OQ__UNQ

rvp20182:
I am not sure how far that nativity goes -In Kenya we have two scenario

1) Hinterland(mainland) slums .Most of slums in Kenya were established by Sudanese Immigrants - the Nubians whom the British brought as Army in most of East Africa - these people of course are not natives - so they couldn't get land and had to build those slums in gov reserve land - natives later joined them for cheap housing & livehood. Kibera & Mathare & Majengos in every Kenya towns - are Nubian - Kibra is Nubian word.

2) Coastal Towns are very similar to Nigeria- Here people have lived in the cities for centuries - upto maybe 1,000 yrs ago - we are talking Mombasa all the way to LAMU. Those towns have "old town" and "New town". But still the town is planned. You don't have old town spreading all over. People who live in Old towns are also required to re-generate the town - at very least they are required to re-paint their houses.

Our old towns are not slums...the houses are repainted - streets are cleaned - and they are not overcrowded dumps like Nigeria

For instance Mombasa old town - has never been a slum - like Nigeria slum cities.
Mombasa Old town in 15th Century.

Mombasa Old town now

Jay254:


I always say old is Gold what you need is to have agood Maintainance culture..

In Kenya old towns of Mombasa and Lamu are protected by UNESCO World Heritage sites. Yet the place is beautiful and crowded with tourist from around the world.

The states or govt in Nigeria should get involved in this.. Kano should be one of the most visited places in Africa... But it's in Nigeria.

I understand you, but why should you be comparing old towns built by coastal arabs of east africa to that of black africans.

We all knew that arabs had more exposure and sophistication in architecture than us. No matter how well our old towns are maintained, they still cannot measure up, cos lots of them were built in primitive fashions back then.

Also, some of these our old houses were built during the colonial era and not necessarily pre-colonial. They are regarded as family houses as it was built by great-grand parents and grandparents.
In some of our cultures in Nigeria, it is forbidden to demolish your fathers house, no matter how old it may be.
There are cases where young people will want to demolish these old houses and build newer ones and their parents will rebuke them, claiming that the old house was a symbol of their achievement and pride back in the day. So, they go to the modern parts of the city to build and buy their own modern houses.

There is a very strong cultural aspect to this thing.


So, I want to ask, couldn't the Sudanese immigrants in Kenya at least build houses with some form of modernity or permanent structure? Cos all over Kenyan slums you see no elements of modernity or a permanent structure.

TayserMahiri:


The only person who gets kicked is you and your boyfriend Nowe. Both from the Kenyan side and the Nigerian side

Keep consoling yourself. I am not the one lying awake at night on a foreign site.

obaaderemi:
You should be ashamed of yourselves. If Obama's dad had had any hand in raising that child, Obama would have ended up as one of you arseholess littering forums from Tanzania to Nigeria.

Obama's dad's dyck was enough to make a president. Whoever would've raised him wouldn't matter.

NairobiWalker:


These houses have toilet facilities and ceilings?
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3724192_ajegunlelagosslumnigeria_jpege7c935ae2d296c980caf68e5fa8834e9

Oooooh Please! Don't touch that point Please

Nowenuse:




Hmm, the last time I checked Ethiopia was still ahead of Kenya. Can you guys show some sources? According to some sources, they are still ahead of you guys.

Besides, that still doesn't make a difference cos Ethiopia was ahead of Kenya. What differences were observed in ET? Since a foolish person asked 'what differences are observed in Nigeria' since we overtook SA as the largest economy in Africa.

Jay254, if you like agree with my points, if you like, do not agree, that is your headache. Your deluded mind still does not change the point that Nigeria has the largest middleclass in africa, largest ongoing projects, largest african start-ups in the last 1-2 decades and largest entertainment industry.

Prove us wrong if you can!

Middle Class is measured by percentages
www.nairaland.com/attachments/5302697_laclassemoyenneenafriqueen2010_jpeg6e185b2b22775f435ba1060118511d36

TayserMahiri:


Thats not your line dude! Its a general Nigerian line, especially when cornered. Even your memes come up when things go south.

What is it with the exclamation mark?Things already going south for you?

NairobiWalker:


These houses have toilet facilities and ceilings?
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3724192_ajegunlelagosslumnigeria_jpege7c935ae2d296c980caf68e5fa8834e9

Yes they do. Post the full pictures of the houses and let us analyze them, and not just the front side or a part of it.

I don't see how that open defecation picture relates to the subject of houses.

You must not make a fool of yourself all the time.

MPSA:

Most of the people want to establish more informal settlement since the announcement of this plan, No, No it is still on table of discussions , More signs of informal settlement is already in the house But our government is working very hard to control the situations at this moment
South Africa is beautiful


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR20OQ__UNQ

Ok, you guys dont spoil SA.

You give us a nice 'developed world' image out there, in the meantime before we get there.

And keep supplying these guys with fresh bread at shoprite

TayserMahiri:


The only person who gets kicked is you and your boyfriend Nowe. Both from the Kenyan side and the Nigerian side

That one adds no value to this thread other than spectating clueless No-ones-anus

obaaderemi:
Keep consoling yourself. I am not the one lying awake at night on a foreign site.

Back to the same line

NairobiWalker:


Middle Class is measured by percentages
www.nairaland.com/attachments/5302697_laclassemoyenneenafriqueen2010_jpeg6e185b2b22775f435ba1060118511d36

Pls this chart is very outdated! What is the source? And what the heck is floating class?

obaaderemi:
What is it with the exclamation mark?Things already going south for you?

My things are going north right now !!!!!!!!!

NairobiWalker:


That one adds no value to this thread other than spectating clueless No-ones-anus

But the name you gave him is really and I mean really mean! And im not saying no-ones-, I mean Obab

Nowenuse:


I understand you, but why should you be comparing old towns built by coastal arabs of east africa to that of black africans.

We all knew that arabs had more exposure and sophistication in architecture than us. No matter how well our old towns are maintained, they still cannot measure up, cos lots of them were built in primitive fashions back then.

Also, some of these our old houses were built during the colonial era and not necessarily pre-colonial. They are regarded as family houses as it was built by great-grand parents and grandparents.
In some of our cultures in Nigeria, it is forbidden to demolish your fathers house, no matter how old it may be.
There are cases where young people will want to demolish these old houses and build newer ones and their parents will rebuke them, claiming that the old house was a symbol of their achievement and pride back in the day. So, they go to the modern parts of the city to build and buy their own modern houses.

There is a very strong cultural aspect to this thing.


So, I want to ask, couldn't the Sudanese immigrants in Kenya at least build houses with some form of modernity or permanent structure? Cos all over Kenyan slums you see no elements of modernity or a permanent structure.

Dude, it's simple................when you have ancient houses in your country, you either choose to demolish them or keep them and maintain them. That's what happens worldwide and that's why those European cities have very old buildings yet they are very clean and beautiful. It's absurd to keep cities this dirty and this ugly in the name of conserving culture - nobody would respect you for having cities that look like this.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3724294_20130703110715_full_jpeg7ccfede4411bf462e73178e0406d50cc

TayserMahiri:



Obama's dad's dyck was enough to make a president. Whoever would've raised him wouldn't matter.

Thank God it's just an online brawl, no missiles and weapons.

Thank God u guys didn't kill urself over nonentity.

Nowenuse:


Pls this chart is very outdated! What is the source? And what the heck is floating class?

The current one is even more embarassing to you. See.

Kenya's GDP 2010 = $40 billion
Kenya's GDP 2018 = $88 billion
% Increase = 120%

Nigeria's GDP 2010 = $369 billion
Nigeria's GDP 2018 = $410 billion
% increase = 11%

It's clear Kenya's mid class has increase way more than Nigeria's.

TayserMahiri:


My things are going north right now !!!!!!!!!

Hey,hey,hey,take it easy,man. Your "things " are going "nuts" indeed. That's clear enough.

TayserMahiri:





But the name you gave him is really and I mean really mean! And im not saying no-ones-, I mean Obab

They reason like those respective names so I don't think I am that bad a guy.

obaaderemi:
Even Ghana's middle class is larger than Little India's. Tanzania will soon overtake them as their best brains waste away here captured by the charm of nairaland.

Hahaha. Little Indians brag more than their power. The way they actually brag about issues, if you are not careful, you will actually fall for it and take their country with some high esteem. Only for you to discover that it's nothing.

Otherwise why should countries like Ghana & Cameroon have a higher middleclass percentage than almighty Little India? The largest economy in East Africa?

I actually take Tanzanians more seriously than Kenyans. They don't brag much, but achieve a lot.

Nowenuse:


Yes they do. Post the full pictures of the houses and let us analyze them, and not just the front side or a part of it.

I don't see how that open defecation picture relates to the subject of houses.

You must not make a fool of yourself all the time.

You're really pathetic. The whole street is a sewage, there are people defeacating openly in the same neighborhood and you're really adamant. lol. So according to you that's not a slum?

obaaderemi:
Hey,hey,hey,take it easy,man. Your "things " are going "nuts" indeed. That's clear enough.