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ollah2:
What was symbolic about his death? You keep writing co.ck and bull stories, initially you said to clear sins from the world and the world is worst than it was prior to him . You switched to atonement which means your god prefers a human sacrifice to animals.

However Muhammed must have slammed his head, the prophets before him slammed theirs too. I believe those doesn't count because of you hatred for Islam.

it's either you're deliberately feigning ignorance or you're an amnesiac. everything i said about Christ's death is the same:

*it was already in prophecy before He came. many prophets in the past talked about His coming - the last was John the Baptist, who eventually got Him baptized.

*His death was to redeem us from eternal damnation. we no longer require animal sacrifices to atone for our sins anymore.

so, if i say his death is "symbolic" you ought to understand what i mean. He didn't die for nothing like your pedophilic and horrrny prafet moooohamid, who raped a little girl of 9 and still married his father's wife. it's such a shame you mooooooslims adore him. if he were alive today, he'd be hanged in public for his crimes.

trapQ:
What does that verse have to do with love? Meaning there's no single verse of the Quran commanding muslims to love?

It shows that you don't have a better understanding of english. The verse said "repel (evil) with what is better (than good)"

KingOfAmebo:
Wow! never knew people like you still exist (ignorant and proud) with no iota of shame, so you mean you dont know the history of the church you attend every sunday right from childbirth through adulthood?...you are a classical example of a spiritually poor and impotent christain. Let me school you a bit about your Church (get a reading glass cuz I know you are blind).

Your daddy never told you the relationship between the catholic and the state:

The relations between the Catholic Church and the state have been constantly evolving with various forms of government, some of them controversial in retrospect. In its history it has had to deal with various concepts and systems of governance, from the Roman Empire to the medieval divine right of kings, from nineteenth and twentieth century concepts of democracy and pluralism to the appearance of left- and right-wing dictatorial regimes. Although the Second Vatican Council's decree Dignitatis humanae emphasized that people must not be coerced in matters of religion, it "leaves untouched traditional Catholic doctrine on the moral duty of men and societies toward the true religion and toward the one Church of Christ", i.e., that in an ideal society the Catholic Church would be recognized as the official religion of the state.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_the_Catholic_Church_and_the_state

Your eyes missed this when reading the first link I sent so let me paste it and bold it for you again:

Tyndale's translation was the first English Bible to draw directly from Hebrew and Greek texts, the first English translation to use Jehovah as God's name as preferred by English Protestant Reformers, the first English translation to take advantage of the printing press, and first of the new English Bibles of the Reformation. It was taken to be a direct challenge to the hegemony of both the Roman Catholic Church and the laws of England maintaining the church's position. In 1530, Tyndale also wrote The Practyse of Prelates, opposing Henry VIII's annulment of his own marriage on the grounds that it contravened Scripture.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tyndale

I can go on and on...but you are a #LazyYouth with zero ability to read and understand.

Next time ask your daddy how your church was founded...I doubt if he would tell you cuz the church was built on secrecy.

I still have not seen any were in that post that states that the church killed him or even instigated the king. and for your info the Catholic church started with Peter he was the first Pope so I don't understand what *secrecy* you are referring to. you that knows the history of the Catholic church how did you own church start?

fucktoto:
it's either you're deliberately feigning ignorance or you're an amnesiac. everything i said about Christ's death is the same:

*it was already in prophecy before He came. many prophets in the past talked about His coming - the last was John the Baptist, who eventually got Him baptized.

*His death was to redeem us from eternal damnation. we no longer require animal sacrifices to atone for our sins anymore.

so, if i say his death is "symbolic" you ought to understand what i mean. He didn't die for nothing like your pedophilic and horrrny prafet moooohamid, who raped a little girl of 9 and still married his father's wife. it's such a shame you mooooooslims adore him. if he were alive today, he'd be hanged in public for his crimes.

If he didn't die for nothing, how come the world is more sinful than it was prior to his time? Btw, how did you reach these conclusions? By reading the inconsistent story book called bible? Use your time for something meaningful and better your life

KratosCorp:


Mr. Pope, the real foolishness is your failure to grasp the difference between "what is" and "what should be".

Your abstract opinion of "what religion should be" has absolutely zero effect on what Islam is.

By the way, another manifestation of the foolishness from you is your pathetic failure to grasp that Islam is NOT a religion but a system of government that's totally opposed to and can never cohabit with western civilization. A senior bishop like you was once in control of the old Turkish territories until Islam terrorized everyone there into submission.

Just know that the world will loathe your memory if, in your nauseating PC, the future of Rome ever translates into today's Istanbul.

Please endeavour to keep your opinion focused on the discusiion and not on God's anointed however difficult it is.
Your points are valid and most times religious tolerance and diplomacy tends to sugar coat the truth to foster peaceful coexistence but it's wrong.

the kwuruaan:

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."

Quran (8:12) - "(Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels... "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"


Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"

EzeNri:
Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other

Islam does not forbid having Christians or jews as friends, if so, then why will thesame Quran permit the marriage of a Muslim to pple of those same faith?

The word translated as friends in that quranic passage is wrong. In the verse you quoted, the word "Awliya" is used. It is a plural and its singular is "wali" . The correct translation of the word ""wali" " is not "friend" but it is someone who is very close and intimate. It is also used to mean "guardian, protector, patron, lord and master".

Imam Ibn Kathir has mentioned that some scholars say that this verse (i.e. the one you referred to) was revealed after the Battle of Uhud when Muslims had a set back. At that time, a Muslim from Madinah said, "I am going to live with Jews so I shall be safe in case another attack comes on Madinah." And another person said, "I am going to live with Christians so I shall be safe in case another attack comes on Madinah." So Allah revealed this verse reminding the believers that they should not seek the protection from others, but should protect each other. (See Ibn Kathir, Al-Tafsir, vol. 2, p. 68)

Then to crown it up, read this verse,

[Allah forbids you not with regard to those who fight you not for your faith, nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them. For Allah loves those who are just. Allah only forbids you with regard to those who fight you for your faith, and drive you out of your homes and support others in driving you out, from turning to them for protection (or taking them as wali ). Those who seek their protection they are indeed wrong- doers.] (Al-Mumtahinah 60: 8-9)

I do hope you understand and see beyond the surface of what has been presented to you by those who want you to hate Islam

042tech:
ISLAM and Terrorism are like 5 & 6. Prophet of Islam started with violence when the people of Madina rejected his preaching even his parents and siblings knew he was scam.

See olodo of highest order... People of madina embrace him wholeheartedly. Sometimes I just marvel at level of ignorance for some Christians.

This shows Pope is Anti christ. Nothing good can come of of Islam

[quote author=malvisguy212 post=68034938][/quote]What does these verses shows about your Christianity? Are these not acts of violence?

.   Exodus 32:27-29

Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' "The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. Then Moses said, "You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day."(NIV)

 

8.   2 Chronicles 25:12

The sons of Judah also captured 10,000 alive and brought them to the top of the cliff and threw them down from the top of the cliff, so that they were all dashed to pieces.(NASB)

 

7.   Judges 12:5-6

Then the Gileadites took the fords of the Jordan against the Ephraimites. Whenever one of the fugitives of Ephraim said, “Let me go over,” the men of Gilead would say to him, “Are you an Ephraimite?” When he said, “No” they said to him, “Then say Shibboleth” and he said, “Sibboleth,” for he could not pronounce it right. Then they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan. Forty-two thousand of the Ephraimites fell at that time. (NRSV)

 

6.   1 Kings 20:28-30

Then a man of God came and spoke to the king of Israel, and said, “Thus says the LORD: 'Because the Syrians have said, “The LORD is God of the hills, but He is not God of the valleys,” therefore I will deliver all this great multitude into your hand, and you shall know that I am the LORD.’” And they encamped opposite each other for seven days.

So it was that on the seventh day the battle was joined; and the children of Israel killed one hundred thousand foot soldiers of the Syrians in one day. But the rest fled to Aphek, into the city; then a wall fell on twenty-seven thousand of the men who were left. (NKJV)

 

5.   Joshua 8:24-26

When the Israelite army finished chasing and killing all the men of Ai in the open fields, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai, including men and women, was wiped out that day—12,000 in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. (NLT)

 

4.   Deuteronomy 2:32-34

Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz. And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining. (ASV)

 

3.   Deuteronomy 3:3-6

So the LORD our God delivered Og also, king of Bashan, with all his people into our hand, and we smote them until no survivor was left. We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (NASB)

 

2.   1 Samuel 15:3,8

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)

 

1.   Hosea 13:16

SalamRushdie:
Okay if you insist ooooo

[b](1) “Fight against those who do not obey Allah and do not believe in Allah or the Last Day and do not forbid what has been forbidden by Allah and His messenger even if they are of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” 9:29

(2) “When the sacred months have passed, then kill the Mushrikin wherever you find them. Capture them. Besiege them. Lie in wait for them in each and every ambush but if they repent, and perform the prayers, and give zacat then leave their way free.” 9:5

(3) “They ask you about fighting during the sacred months. Tell them, fighting therein is a great sin but a greater sin is to prevent mankind from following the way of Allah, to disbelieve in him.” 2:217

(4) “Kill them wherever you find them and drive them out from where they drove you out. Persecution is worse than slaughter.” 2:191


(5) “When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks.” 47:4


(6) “When your Lord revealed to the angels, ‘Truly I am with you. So, keep firm those who have believed. I will strike terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved. So, strike them at the necks and cut off their fingers.’” 8:12

(7) “Oh you who believe, fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you and let them find harshness in you.” 9:123





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How does these bible verses potray Christianity as a religion of peace? Are these not acts of violence and terrorism contained in your bible?
.   Exodus 32:27-29

Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' "The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. Then Moses said, "You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day."(NIV)

 

8.   2 Chronicles 25:12

The sons of Judah also captured 10,000 alive and brought them to the top of the cliff and threw them down from the top of the cliff, so that they were all dashed to pieces.(NASB)

 

7.   Judges 12:5-6

Then the Gileadites took the fords of the Jordan against the Ephraimites. Whenever one of the fugitives of Ephraim said, “Let me go over,” the men of Gilead would say to him, “Are you an Ephraimite?” When he said, “No” they said to him, “Then say Shibboleth” and he said, “Sibboleth,” for he could not pronounce it right. Then they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan. Forty-two thousand of the Ephraimites fell at that time. (NRSV)

 

6.   1 Kings 20:28-30

Then a man of God came and spoke to the king of Israel, and said, “Thus says the LORD: 'Because the Syrians have said, “The LORD is God of the hills, but He is not God of the valleys,” therefore I will deliver all this great multitude into your hand, and you shall know that I am the LORD.’” And they encamped opposite each other for seven days.

So it was that on the seventh day the battle was joined; and the children of Israel killed one hundred thousand foot soldiers of the Syrians in one day. But the rest fled to Aphek, into the city; then a wall fell on twenty-seven thousand of the men who were left. (NKJV)

 

5.   Joshua 8:24-26

When the Israelite army finished chasing and killing all the men of Ai in the open fields, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai, including men and women, was wiped out that day—12,000 in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. (NLT)

 

4.   Deuteronomy 2:32-34

Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz. And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining. (ASV)

 

3.   Deuteronomy 3:3-6

So the LORD our God delivered Og also, king of Bashan, with all his people into our hand, and we smote them until no survivor was left. We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (NASB)

 

2.   1 Samuel 15:3,8

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)

ollah2:
If he didn't die for nothing, how come the world is more sinful than it was prior to his time? Btw, how did you reach these conclusions? By reading the inconsistent story book called bible? Use your time for something meaningful and better your life

you need to develop a discerning heart and stop misquoting me.

i never told you that Christ came to stop sin. He came to minister to us about God His Father and bring us closer to Him.

a perfect life was lost in the garden of eden through sin and another perfect life was required to atone for that sin. Jesus willingly offered Himself to make that happen and His Father allowed it.

and He is coming again, this time it's the final, and y'all evil mudslims are in trouble.

now let's talk about prafet moooohamid.

why did he fvck a 9-year-old girl and nobody questioned him?

fucktoto:
you need to develop a discerning heart and stop misquoting me.

i never told you that Christ came to stop sin. He came to minister to us about God His Father and bring us closer to Him.

a perfect life was lost in the garden of eden through sin and another perfect life was required to atone for that sin. Jesus willingly offered Himself to make that happen and His Father allowed it.

and He is coming again, this time it's the final, and y'all evil mudslims are in trouble.

now let's talk about prafet moooohamid.

why did he fvck a 9-year-old girl and nobody questioned him?

You didnt answer me, where did you read these jargons from? The inconsistent and fictional story book called bible?

these mooooooslim clowns sef..


when they're confronted with their evil they start ripping off quotes from the old testament to suit themselves.

Konze70:
This shows Pope is Anti christ. Nothing good can come of of Islam

Exactly that's why christian god instructed bush and clinton to ruin Iraq and Syria respectively.

ollah2:
You didnt answer me, where did you read these jargons from? The inconsistent and fictional story book called bible?

no, i read it from your holy kwuruaan that prafet moooohamid took a little child as wife and fvcked her when she was just nine.

are you going to deny it?

Ganiyat72:
This present pope is more or less a political pope. I'm a Muslim but I can authoritatively tell u that all Muslim support terrrorism aka jihad.

Speak for yourself. You support terrorism and not all Muslims because I don't.

fucktoto:
no, i read it from your holy kwuruaan that prafet moooohamid took a little child as wife and fvcked her when she was just nine.

are you going to deny it?

Well the Quran doesn't have neither of the stories

SalamRushdie:
Okay if you insist ooooo

[b](1) “Fight against those who do not obey Allah and do not believe in Allah or the Last Day and do not forbid what has been forbidden by Allah and His messenger even if they are of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” 9:29

(2) “When the sacred months have passed, then kill the Mushrikin wherever you find them. Capture them. Besiege them. Lie in wait for them in each and every ambush but if they repent, and perform the prayers, and give zacat then leave their way free.” 9:5

(3) “They ask you about fighting during the sacred months. Tell them, fighting therein is a great sin but a greater sin is to prevent mankind from following the way of Allah, to disbelieve in him.” 2:217

(4) “Kill them wherever you find them and drive them out from where they drove you out. Persecution is worse than slaughter.” 2:191


(5) “When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks.” 47:4


(6) “When your Lord revealed to the angels, ‘Truly I am with you. So, keep firm those who have believed. I will strike terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved. So, strike them at the necks and cut off their fingers.’” 8:12

(7) “Oh you who believe, fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you and let them find harshness in you.” 9:123





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Tell me something bout these your bible verses that teaches violence and terrorist act.
.   Exodus 32:27-29

Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' "The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. Then Moses said, "You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day."(NIV)

 

8.   2 Chronicles 25:12

The sons of Judah also captured 10,000 alive and brought them to the top of the cliff and threw them down from the top of the cliff, so that they were all dashed to pieces.(NASB)

 

7.   Judges 12:5-6

Then the Gileadites took the fords of the Jordan against the Ephraimites. Whenever one of the fugitives of Ephraim said, “Let me go over,” the men of Gilead would say to him, “Are you an Ephraimite?” When he said, “No” they said to him, “Then say Shibboleth” and he said, “Sibboleth,” for he could not pronounce it right. Then they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan. Forty-two thousand of the Ephraimites fell at that time. (NRSV)

 

6.   1 Kings 20:28-30

Then a man of God came and spoke to the king of Israel, and said, “Thus says the LORD: 'Because the Syrians have said, “The LORD is God of the hills, but He is not God of the valleys,” therefore I will deliver all this great multitude into your hand, and you shall know that I am the LORD.’” And they encamped opposite each other for seven days.

So it was that on the seventh day the battle was joined; and the children of Israel killed one hundred thousand foot soldiers of the Syrians in one day. But the rest fled to Aphek, into the city; then a wall fell on twenty-seven thousand of the men who were left. (NKJV)

 

5.   Joshua 8:24-26

When the Israelite army finished chasing and killing all the men of Ai in the open fields, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai, including men and women, was wiped out that day—12,000 in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. (NLT)

 

4.   Deuteronomy 2:32-34

Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz. And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining. (ASV)

 

3.   Deuteronomy 3:3-6

So the LORD our God delivered Og also, king of Bashan, with all his people into our hand, and we smote them until no survivor was left. We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (NASB)

 

2.   1 Samuel 15:3,8

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)

ollah2:
Well the Quran doesn't have neither of the stories

i guess the hadith is a Christian book too?

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:
Narrated Aisha:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

fucktoto:
Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."

Quran (8:12) - "(Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels... "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"


Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"

What does these verses portray Christianity as?

.   Exodus 32:27-29

Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' "The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. Then Moses said, "You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day."(NIV)

 

8.   2 Chronicles 25:12

The sons of Judah also captured 10,000 alive and brought them to the top of the cliff and threw them down from the top of the cliff, so that they were all dashed to pieces.(NASB)

 

7.   Judges 12:5-6

Then the Gileadites took the fords of the Jordan against the Ephraimites. Whenever one of the fugitives of Ephraim said, “Let me go over,” the men of Gilead would say to him, “Are you an Ephraimite?” When he said, “No” they said to him, “Then say Shibboleth” and he said, “Sibboleth,” for he could not pronounce it right. Then they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan. Forty-two thousand of the Ephraimites fell at that time. (NRSV)

 

6.   1 Kings 20:28-30

Then a man of God came and spoke to the king of Israel, and said, “Thus says the LORD: 'Because the Syrians have said, “The LORD is God of the hills, but He is not God of the valleys,” therefore I will deliver all this great multitude into your hand, and you shall know that I am the LORD.’” And they encamped opposite each other for seven days.

So it was that on the seventh day the battle was joined; and the children of Israel killed one hundred thousand foot soldiers of the Syrians in one day. But the rest fled to Aphek, into the city; then a wall fell on twenty-seven thousand of the men who were left. (NKJV)

 

5.   Joshua 8:24-26

When the Israelite army finished chasing and killing all the men of Ai in the open fields, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai, including men and women, was wiped out that day—12,000 in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. (NLT)

 

4.   Deuteronomy 2:32-34

Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz. And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining. (ASV)

 

3.   Deuteronomy 3:3-6

So the LORD our God delivered Og also, king of Bashan, with all his people into our hand, and we smote them until no survivor was left. We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (NASB)

 

2.   1 Samuel 15:3,8

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)

they're quoting from the history of the israelites, we're showing them their present evils.

useless religion.

cursed religion. head-slamming ragheads... with their 3-quarter trousers.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."

Quran (8:12) - "(Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels... "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"


Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"

fucktoto:
i guess the hadith is a Christian book too?

And the hadith is the Quran? Funny thing about bigots like you is your inability to be open minded in order to learn.

Let me school your ignorant self a bit this morning even though it doesn't stop you from being a bigot and hypocrite filled with hatred

The people got to know about Aisha's age through the hadith.

A hadith is the words of the Prophet delivered from people for example you will see this pattern in the hadiths :

Someone said that the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) said…
Someone told somebody that the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) said…
Someone told someone that someone heard the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) say…
Someone told someone that someone heard someone say that someone said that the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) said…and so on, there is no end to it depending on how many people delivered this hadith which all go back to the Prophet’s mouth in the end.
The chain message like this could be :

Fake/Gossip
Could be true but distorted
True but some details are missing
What does the hadiths referring to Aisha age say about her age and birth?

She was 9 years old
She was born in Mecca during pre-Islamic which means she wasn't 9 years old. older than that.
She went to the war. It means she was more than 13 years old at that time.

Before engage to prophet, Aisha was already engaged to pagan Jubair in makkah but when Abubakar(her father) accepted Islam he broke that engagement. Nobody objected their marriage which means it was the order of the day back then.

One must first understand that 1400 years ago is very different than now, times have changed and so have humans also . Don't judge by Today's Norms and fashion with yesteryears.



Shalom

Regardless of what you post, absolutely nothing can reach the crimes committed hy christians for the god.

They ruined Iraq, Syria, Afganistan and Libya.

They rendered hundrend of thousands sick, deformed, killed millions in the process, made tens of millions homeless.
These were carried out by christians


Deuteronomy 13:6-10 

“If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.” (Luke 19:27 KJV)

KratosCorp:


Mr. Pope, the real foolishness is your failure to grasp the difference between "what is" and "what should be".

Your abstract opinion of "what religion should be" has absolutely zero effect on what Islam is.

By the way, another manifestation of the foolishness from you is your pathetic failure to grasp that Islam is NOT a religion but a system of government that's totally opposed to and can never cohabit with western civilization. A senior bishop like you was once in control of the old Turkish territories until Islam terrorized everyone there into submission.

Just know that the world will loathe your memory if, in your nauseating PC, the future of Rome ever translates into today's Istanbul.

I can see that foolishness is written all over you

ollah2:
And the hadith is the Quran? Funny thing about bigots like you is your inability to be open minded in order to learn.

Let me school your ignorant self a bit this morning even though it doesn't stop you from being a bigot and hypocrite filled with hatred

The people got to know about Aisha's age through the hadith.

A hadith is the words of the Prophet delivered from people for example you will see this pattern in the hadiths :

Someone said that the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) said…
Someone told somebody that the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) said…
Someone told someone that someone heard the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) say…
Someone told someone that someone heard someone say that someone said that the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) said…and so on, there is no end to it depending on how many people delivered this hadith which all go back to the Prophet’s mouth in the end.
The chain message like this could be :

Fake/Gossip
Could be true but distorted
True but some details are missing
What does the hadiths referring to Aisha age say about her age and birth?

She was 9 years old
She was born in Mecca during pre-Islamic which means she wasn't 9 years old. older than that.
She went to the war. It means she was more than 13 years old at that time.

Before engage to prophet, Aisha was already engaged to pagan Jubair in makkah but when Abubakar(her father) accepted Islam he broke that engagement. Nobody objected their marriage which means it was the order of the day back then.

One must first understand that 1400 years ago is very different than now, times have changed and so have humans also . Don't judge by Today's Norms and fashion with yesteryears.



Shalom

loads and loads of crap yet again..

the hadith contains messages from muslim prophets that are not recorded in the quran, and you use those messages to preach in your mosques and in your religious debates. but then you try to falsify messages that expose your ugly sides - like prafet moooohamid fvcking a minor, for instance.

if your hadith is full of hearsays and not 100% reliable, why not condemn it totally?

and who "distorted" your hadith - Christians?

when you keep covering lies with lies nobody would buy your story.

same way you argue that boko haram, isis, al-qaeda, al-shabaab, taliban, etc are not islamic terrorist groups yet those groups use and understand the quran than most of you. before they send someone's head flying an imam is usually invited to recite a page from the quran backing up their act, but if i ask you now you'd start spewing incoherent gibberish.

olajide21:
There are countless Ayah that i can share with you on the topic. Here are a few

1. Indeed, Allah enjoins justice, and the doing of good to others; and giving like kindred; and forbids indecency, and manifest evil, and wrongful transgression. He admonished you that you may take heed. (Al Quran 16:91)

For challenge and knowledge sake, can the Christians post verses in their books that could march the words of The Quran encouraging and rewarding good?

Pastors, Reverend, Apostle, Alagba, Choir master, Daddy GOs over to una...

fucktoto:
cursed religion. head-slamming ragheads... with their 3-quarter trousers.

Your moniker says it all.

All of you posting verses from the Quran and being mischievous about it. You should know that there are precedents to the revelations of those verses. You don't also post a verse without understanding the preceeding and succeeding verses.

NOETHNICITY:
that guy isn't a Muslim
he is intact an ipobist

pope francis sef dat guy is funny