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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by frer8: 6:27am On Jun 04, 2018
Nairobi says hi!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:33am On Jun 04, 2018
To be fair - they have Enyimba football club - which normally does very well in continental football. Kenya football sucks and we have some way to go before we reach Nigeria standards...but the consistent funding from Sport Pesa & Supersport will get us there.
TayserMahiri:


I swear I dont and I follow football like crazy. Most football-loving non-Nigerians dont know any nigerian club. Aside from Kenyan clubs, I know SA clubs, Egyptian, Algerian, Tanzanian and Congolese (TP MAzembe grin), still no Nigerian club I know unless I google which is not necessary because you're here. Which is the most popular Nigerian club and how does it compare to K'Ogalo in terms of footballing? Please dont talk with (Nigerian) ego, just the truth.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:34am On Jun 04, 2018
Abuja cannot beat NAIROBI in anything. Despite all the billion dollars Nigeria spent in building it from the scratch.

This is Upperhill - Nairobi's Sandton that was recently rebuild from middle class estate - within Nairobi

Nairobi old City Center.

Nairobi's Westland CBD also beat Abuja

nwoke37:
Abuja beats Nairobi hands down though...

Abuja is just starting to build skyscrapers.. remember it's a new city.. plus there's the centenary city that's about to start in Abuja...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by frer8: 6:48am On Jun 04, 2018
Nairobae

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by frer8: 6:54am On Jun 04, 2018
Abuja can't beat Nairobi's Upper Hill District! Lemme go get some Java coffee!

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 8:40am On Jun 04, 2018
KENYA BEAUTIFUL

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:26am On Jun 04, 2018
Military spending. South Africa 3.2B dollars, Nigeria 1.6b dollars( GAINT smiley) and Kenya 1B dollars (aka the dwarf).

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Kenya-tops-in-regional-military-salaries/3946234-4594418-ea5gr5z/index.html

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 9:55am On Jun 04, 2018
Ego aside, let's just say Kenyan football has a long way to go. You'll be surprised how many Nigerian footballers are resident in Kenya.

TayserMahiri:


I swear I dont and I follow football like crazy. Most football-loving non-Nigerians dont know any nigerian club. Aside from Kenyan clubs, I know SA clubs, Egyptian, Algerian, Tanzanian and Congolese (TP MAzembe grin), still no Nigerian club I know unless I google which is not necessary because you're here. Which is the most popular Nigerian club and how does it compare to K'Ogalo in terms of footballing? Please dont talk with (Nigerian) ego, just the truth.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 9:57am On Jun 04, 2018
and yet most Kenyans are obsessed with Nigerians. Abeg...most Nigerians I know that moved back home actually hate Kenya with a passion. Kenyans are not open minded people and are very ethnocentric people. oh yeah and they loooove white people.

NairobiWalker:


............anyone who comes to Kenya wants it to be their second home. I feel you. cool cool cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by frer8: 10:26am On Jun 04, 2018
Considering Kenya's and South Africa's population,the figures are pretty good.Not so on Nigeria.We are somehow up there and yet we budget our military with tea,flowers and coffee money!
rvp20182:
Military spending. South Africa 3.2B dollars, Nigeria 1.6b dollars( GAINT smiley) and Kenya 1B dollars (aka the dwarf).

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Kenya-tops-in-regional-military-salaries/3946234-4594418-ea5gr5z/index.html

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 10:41am On Jun 04, 2018
MPSA:

Who told you about Nigga You backward Boko Haram? grin
Hahahaha that ain't funny bruv the funny part is, you are still a fucking slave to your own fucking backward poo country...lool com on boy keep on licking your master arses so you can regain your fucking freedom biatch!!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:44am On Jun 04, 2018
And Boko-haram & Fulani herders are killing Nigerians for sport - you'd expect the military budget to be able to deal with Boko-haram problem at the very least.
frer8:
Considering Kenya's and South Africa's population,the figures are pretty good.Not so on Nigeria.We are somehow up there and yet we budget our military with tea,flowers and coffee money!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by frer8: 10:48am On Jun 04, 2018
The FN SCAR RIFLE,ONLY THE KENYA ARMY USES IT in Africa.It is one of the best rifle if not the best right now!

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:47am On Jun 04, 2018
GERALD710:

How many links of the fact that ONLY 5% OF NAIROBI'S LAND IS OCCUPIED BY SLUMS do we have to post here
Yes, a lot of people in Nairobi, 40% live in Slums(many of which,except for Mathari-Kibera-Korogocho and Mukuu are not slums by Nigerian standards given how Ibadan looks like a Nairobi slum)
But those slums occupy 5%
I repeat 5%!!!
of Nairobi.
They are not seen everywhere!!
What congestion?
You do know estates like Karen one cannot buy less than 2 acres of land and before 2007 the minimum amount of land per house was a freaking 10 acres!!!
60% of Nairobi's land is occupied by upper middle income and high income estates.Like virtually the entire western half of Nairobi!!
Before you burst an artery, read the link again. it is on countries not cities. Thank you.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:50am On Jun 04, 2018
GERALD710:

Kenya has hotel chains AND Safari Camps AND Luxury Lodges.
SMH.
The source you posted EXCLUDES Safari Camps and Lodges form its statistics. Basically, the lodges and Safari Camps around Maasai Mara for example are not counted in the source!!! .For Example Richard Brandson's Mahali Mzuri 's Safari Camp which is basically a Seven star establishment in the wild is NOT counted in those statistics.
You chose a reputable establishment with reliable but INCOMPLETE statistics!!
You,Sir, obviously have not been following. Your silly brother RSVP 2018 posted the source. He clearly didn't read his own source before posting. Blame him for his folly.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:52am On Jun 04, 2018
GERALD710:

According to your very own source, the research excludes LODGES, SAFARI CAMPS , CHALETS AND CRUISE HOTELS.
Loool!!!
Kenya absolutely DOMINATES in the first two.I wonder why they exclude those when WE do have luxury Lodges and Safari Camps in half the counties of Kenya.
You think Tourists stay only in Hotels in KenyaPlease!!! Kenya has Luxury Hotels, Luxury Lodges AND Luxury Safari Camps!!!
If you add both the luxury hotels +Luxury lodges+Luxury Safari Camps(which I wonder why they are excluded because they are essentially hotels in the wild), Nigeria is not even in the top 5. Botswana and Zimbabwe would appear on the list.
Kenya and South Africa have both.
What Luxury lodges and Safari Camps does Nigeria haveNote that top luxury establishments like Finch Hattons have luxury safari camps in Kenya
Once again, the source came from your own brother. I merely turned his own sword on him.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:58am On Jun 04, 2018
nwoke37:
Abuja beats Nairobi hands down though...

Abuja is just starting to build skyscrapers.. remember it's a new city.. plus there's the centenary city that's about to start in Abuja...
Of course. And Abuja is just starting. Hands down indeed.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 12:03pm On Jun 04, 2018
Ad hominem is not a substitute of good argumentation.I guess you're not capable of making a sound argument on why Nigeria with ALLEGED 400-500B dollar economy has failed to attract global hotel chains. 57 hotels against Kenya's 68! And yet you want us to highlight some obscure section that claims Nigeria is now developing some global chains - like how many compared to say Nairobi? For example Hilton will open 45 floor hotel in Nairobi - that is their second or third branch.

Current Hilton Nairobi

Another Hilton coming soon..45 floor..the 2nd tower of Tallest Building in Africa..that is probably taller than any building in Nigeria..

obaaderemi:
You,Sir, obviously have not been following. Your silly brother RSVP 2018 posted the source. He clearly didn't read his own source before posting. Blame him for his folly.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by frer8: 12:03pm On Jun 04, 2018
We knew Buhari was a herdsman;so we made him visit Brookside dairies because he has a thing for cattle! smiley I bet the sizes of the cow shocked him! This were not the normal cows being reared by the Fulani!

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 12:07pm On Jun 04, 2018
rvp20182:
I am glad you helped these poorly educated Nigerian make that distinction. Tourism right now is about 1.5% or less of Kenya GDP - and about half of it is domestic tourism. For an alleged 400-500B dollar economy - where are the domestic tourist in Nigeria. Let not even worry about whites+indians - if a Nigeria is visting Abuja - where will he sleep - some seedy hotel or lodging?

Bottomline; Nigeria economy is doing so poorly few global chain would waste their money in there - despite the oil industry there.

If you had bothered to read your link before embarrassing yourself with your ignorance and hatred, you would have seen this on Abuja and Lagos and how the big hotel chains are concentrating their money on those two cities...



http://content.knightfrank.com/research/1493/
documents/en/hotels-africa-2018-5422.pdf
Most strikingly, 35% of projects under development
in the continent are in West Africa, which is home
to only 9% of the current supply. The greatest
concentration of these projects is in Nigeria,
primarily in Lagos and Abuja, where multiple hotels
are under development for international brands
including Hilton, Sheraton and Marriott.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 12:11pm On Jun 04, 2018
rvp20182:
Ad hominem is not a substitute of good argumentation.I guess you're not capable of making a sound argument on why Nigeria with ALLEGED 400-500B dollar economy has failed to attract global hotel chains. 57 hotels against Kenya's 68! And yet you want us to highlight some obscure section that claims Nigeria is now developing some global chains - like how many compared to say Nairobi? For example Hilton will open 45 floor hotel in Nairobi - that is their second or third branch.

Current Hilton Nairobi

Another Hilton coming soon..45 floor..the 2nd tower of Tallest Building in Africa..that is probably taller than any building in Nigeria..


http://content.knightfrank.com/research/1493/
documents/en/hotels-africa-2018-5422.pdf
Most strikingly, 35% of projects under development
in the continent are in West Africa, which is home
to only 9% of the current supply. The greatest
concentration of these projects is in Nigeria,
primarily in Lagos and Abuja, where multiple hotels
are under development for international brands
including Hilton, Sheraton and Marriott.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by alejandro: 12:22pm On Jun 04, 2018
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:46pm On Jun 04, 2018
naijalander:
and yet most Kenyans are obsessed with Nigerians. Abeg...most Nigerians I know that moved back home actually hate Kenya with a passion. Kenyans are not open minded people and are very ethnocentric people. oh yeah and they loooove white people.


That's stupid ego speaking. Of all countries in the world, Nigeria could be the last Kenyans would choose to be obsessed with. Kenyans love white people yet it's not them drowning in the Mediterranean trying to get to white countries.............don't just talk because you want to make a comeback - speak facts.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:51pm On Jun 04, 2018
naijalander:
Ego aside, let's just say Kenyan football has a long way to go. You'll be surprised how many Nigerian footballers are resident in Kenya.


We are not surprised. Many Nigerians who can afford to travel to Kenya want to create a home in Kenya. Even Yemi Alade is chasing a Kenyan passport as we speak. She might become a Kenyan citizen too.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 12:55pm On Jun 04, 2018
and who told you Yemi Alade is chasing a Kenyan passport? Get real!

NairobiWalker:


We are not surprised. Many Nigerians who can afford to travel to Kenya want to create a home in Kenya. Even Yemi Alade is chasing a Kenyan passport as we speak. She might become a Kenyan citizen too.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 1:00pm On Jun 04, 2018
Kenyans are obsessed with Nigerians. Larry Madowo and Cyprian Nyankundi are good examples. I know because I have studied Kenyan low self esteem for years now.

Your people envy our culture. Your SM influencers copy Nigerian content and modify it in swahili. Everything about you guys suck.

NairobiWalker:


That's stupid ego speaking. Of all countries in the world, Nigeria could be the last Kenyans would choose to be obsessed with. Kenyans love white people yet it's not them drowning in the Mediterranean trying to get to white countries.............don't just talk because you want to make a comeback - speak facts.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 1:01pm On Jun 04, 2018
Granted. So first you have to accept Nigeria is way down. Now before yous reach Kenya level - you need a deficit of 10 global chains - and Kenya is not sleeping either. Clearly you 400-500B dollar economy exist only in cooked stats. You should be with South Africa and Egypt in 300 plus global chains. Having 5 in every Nigeria slum city - would easily make that 200...but here you have as many global chain hotels as Tanzania.
obaaderemi:

http://content.knightfrank.com/research/1493/
documents/en/hotels-africa-2018-5422.pdf
Most strikingly, 35% of projects under development
in the continent are in West Africa, which is home
to only 9% of the current supply. The greatest
concentration of these projects is in Nigeria,
primarily in Lagos and Abuja, where multiple hotels
are under development for international brands
including Hilton, Sheraton and Marriott.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 1:34pm On Jun 04, 2018
naijalander:
Kenyans are obsessed with Nigerians. Larry Madowo and Cyprian Nyankundi are good examples. I know because I have studied Kenyan low self esteem for years now.

Your people envy our culture. Your SM influencers copy Nigerian content and modify it in swahili. Everything about you guys suck.


Please prove Larry Madowo and Cyprian Nyakundi are obsessed with Nigeria. The fact that you know some random blogger in Kenya and media personality in Kenya tells who is obsessed with who. You've even embarked on studying Kenya's self esteem? Wow, that's inspiring. Keep the obsession burning. cool cool cool cool

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 1:34pm On Jun 04, 2018
naijalander:
and who told you Yemi Alade is chasing a Kenyan passport? Get real!


She said it herself in an interview. lol.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:34pm On Jun 04, 2018
rvp20182:
Granted. So first you have to accept Nigeria is way down. Now before yous reach Kenya level - you need a deficit of 10 global chains - and Kenya is not sleeping either. Clearly you 400-500B dollar economy exist only in cooked stats. You should be with South Africa and Egypt in 300 plus global chains. Having 5 in every Nigeria slum city - would easily make that 200...but here you have as many global chain hotels as Tanzania.
If you knew the meaning of the " most strikingly " term used in that report to refer to Nigeria and also the 35% slice you will keep quiet. Those countries currently having more than Nigeria are big tourist destinations; Nigeria isn't. And you should be ashamed of yourselves for having just 10 more than Nigeria.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 1:41pm On Jun 04, 2018
weyrey

NairobiWalker:


Please prove Larry Madowo and Cyprian Nyakundi are obsessed with Nigeria. The fact that you know some random blogger in Kenya and media personality in Kenya tells who is obsessed with who. You've even embarked on studying Kenya's self esteem? Wow, that's inspiring. Keep the obsession burning. cool cool cool cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 2:34pm On Jun 04, 2018
I'd love to know what numbers we are looking at. I know 35% in entire west Africa (with majority in Lagos & Abuja) with East Africa having 29% - I am not sure - what is most striking - it could be 2 or 3 hotels.

As regard to tourism...you are like nigeria politicians..making excuses after excuses. Tourism is not natural feature. Why doesn't Nigeria have tourism or agriculture or anything else. It's because you allowed everything to collapse or never build one when you discovered oil.

You talk about diversification...and Tourism is one such sector you need to start building. Nigeria has about twice Kenya tourism potential...because you have twice the land.

Make Nigeria a big tourist destination and stop making inane excuses everyday!

obaaderemi:
If you knew the meaning of the " most strikingly " term used in that report to refer to Nigeria and also the 35% slice you will keep quiet. Those countries currently having more than Nigeria are big tourist destinations; Nigeria isn't. And you should be ashamed of yourselves for having just 10 more than Nigeria.

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