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Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by Nobody: 6:38am On Jun 06, 2018
richeso:


i don't think so sir. the only pain is that he is in APC, if he had moved to PDP i bet he will be PDP best candidate. he is welcomed in the south and also in the east and north and west. he is Christian. many killings will stop if he holds the main power to stop it. because then we will hold him responsible, many intimidation and lot of things happening now will not happen if he holds power. i still think he has good sides well considerable to note.


he is no longer welcome in the east...simple

he can come and commission project but not welcome

he has squandered his goodwill if he has any with mindless blood letting
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by Nobody: 6:41am On Jun 06, 2018
richeso:


well.. your opinions are not bad except the one you think am fooling myself. Christian faith is like a No faith. christian accommodates everything. we hardly discriminate or abuse anyone for their wrongs unless you commit crime. outside crime. a christian president do not have the time to exchange abuses, discriminate or fight anyone. GEJ as example. its not a big deal about all this faith thing else the Christians would have question the arabic sign on the soldiers. lot of things i don't want this thread to dance to.
this is about the best people, not their faiths.

yorubas abused him and voted him out
now u want us to vote a lying pasror osibanjo

this is hypocrisy oga
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by Nobody: 6:59am On Jun 06, 2018
FriendNG:

Why? A woman that precide over looting of the country's wealth.
And now buhari is presiding over celebration of nations wealth....
mediocrity is a disease.....
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by orisa37: 7:23am On Jun 06, 2018
Incorrect.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by clefstone(m): 7:45am On Jun 06, 2018
FriendNG:


Why? A woman that precide over looting of the country's wealth.
according to who? According to the saints who are in power now, are not looting yet the country is experiencing hunger like never before in contrast to the prosperity of Iwella's days. Boy, don't believe everything you are told else you become a zombie
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 2:08am On Jun 07, 2018
Mayrock:


what should I understand that over 150 innocent protesters were gunned down in broad day light
over 100 murdered and buried with no trace
over 150 gunned down in aba
over 180 in onitsha
Nearly 10000 lost lives under buhari/osibanjo

the number is countless



or is it over 30000 murdered in north by 1945 or is it over 10000 in i953 or is it over 3million igbos genocide committed in 1967-1970


the number is endless oga

what should I understand here? OK I should understand that buhari/osibanjo presided over the killings of this innocent citizens or we simply say na osibanjo is naturally wicked and blood thirsty murderer?



what am I to understand when the murder still continues uptill today?
what am I to understand?

i want you to understand osibanjo can not speak or take any action without instructions from the Presidency. do you know Osibanjo was very low and unhear of at all the time of this killings ? i believe he knows within his heart lot of things are not right but he is not even in the best position to make any decision unless there's no Buhari. do you know Buhari was not around when he visited the eastern and southern states ? that should tell you something not told in words.

i want you to understand at this moment osibanjo is helpless..who will he turn to for support ? the service chiefs that are nearly all northerners ?
the military that are buhari dogs ? even your own Igbo man that will smily sold you off for peanuts ( Amaechi, Rochas etc )?

in all the killings you mentioned. He is not at the control of power to make strong decisions. he is just here like a servant not the master to take strong decisions bro.

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Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 2:20am On Jun 07, 2018
FriendNG:



We are not fools and you are not speaking to 2 year old kids. The president is from South west and the vp from South east. Both the two are south, there is nothing like west and east in Nigeria. When it comes to the north we have NC NW and NE. Both are from the christian faith. So stop wasting your time that Muslim or Christian did not stop boko haram did dat bla bla.

It seems you know nothing on how Nigeria operates. Its not a christian thing but Buhari using Tinubu as a running mate is Islamic things. Continue fooling ur sef

lol.. when it matters about positions, we see Only South. but when it comes to other thing( make i no talk ) it will be East and West.

bro, leave all that east north west south bla bla bla. lets vote in Technocrats and not this old system of regional politics. atleast there's senate and vice and other strong positions. we end up bringing someone like buhari In because the north needed someone popular and influential not technocrats. no better qualifications self and here we are ..killings, hunger, crying, and seriously backward that some people finds very good business in terrorism, kidnapping and killings like never before.

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Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 2:25am On Jun 07, 2018
FriendNG:


Why? A woman that precide over looting of the country's wealth.
since you did not arrest her nor the Effcc prosecute her. she remains Innocent.
no be everything them tell you u go take. na final judgement matters. till today even Dasuki is yet to be prosecuted there are lot of things you don't understand i guess.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by FriendNG: 11:58am On Jun 07, 2018
richeso:

since you did not arrest her nor the Effcc prosecute her. she remains Innocent.
no be everything them tell you u go take. na final judgement matters. till today even Dasuki is yet to be prosecuted there are lot of things you don't understand i guess.

We are not talking of what the court says. Even evans is still innocent. But she knows and she said it based on some of her statement that she precide over the looting of this country. You're the 1 who doesn't understand how things go.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by FriendNG: 12:06pm On Jun 07, 2018
richeso:


lol.. when it matters about positions, we see Only South. but when it comes to other thing( make i no talk ) it will be East and West.

bro, leave all that east north west south bla bla bla. lets vote in Technocrats and not this old system of regional politics. atleast there's senate and vice and other strong positions. we end up bringing someone like buhari In because the north needed someone popular and influential not technocrats. no better qualifications self and here we are ..killings, hunger, crying, and seriously backward that some people finds very good business in terrorism, kidnapping and killings like never before.


Then you're far from reality and your thread is waste of time. And you don't need to lie to make your point. Same Boko Haram was attacking not only northeastern part of Nigeria but northwest and north Central including Abuja.

Today where is Boko Haram? Only confided in Borno and highest sometimes attack Adamawa or Yobe. The same Boko Haram having significant presence in northwest and northcentral including Abuja under GEJ.

Now back to the matter. Are you telling me that technocrats only existed among southerners or Christians.

Why don't you look for a Yoruba Muslim technocrat and a Northern Christian technocrats.

As I said you're far from reality what you're suggesting will never happen. The south don't trust north and Muslim don't trust Christian and vice versa. Your presidency card is dead on arrival.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 1:18pm On Jun 07, 2018
FriendNG:



Then you're far from reality and your thread is waste of time. And you don't need to lie to make your point. Same Boko Haram was attacking not only northeastern part of Nigeria but northwest and north Central including Abuja.

Today where is Boko Haram? Only confided in Borno and highest sometimes attack Adamawa or Yobe. The same Boko Haram having significant presence in northwest and northcentral including Abuja under GEJ.

Now back to the matter. Are you telling me that technocrats only existed among southerners or Christians.

Why don't you look for a Yoruba Muslim technocrat and a Northern Christian technocrats.

As I said you're far from reality what you're suggesting will never happen. The south don't trust north and Muslim don't trust Christian and vice versa. Your presidency card is dead on arrival.

my friend, i wouldn't want us to start talking about the north and south issue here else the thread will lost its purpose as you are trying to do.
also i don't want to go into bokoharam issue because the way i see it might be different from the way you see it. because if you do not put on considerations the so many same northern elders, political group and even the military insincerity to the efforts of GEJ to end boko haram then i can't discuss with you on such topics. go and study that time properly. from the inside enemies sabotaging efforts, up to USA refusals down to distractive protests daily. i need not to tell you how politics works. the same BBOG campaigner was arrested and disgraced in the police station in this buhari time.. you ask me why ? or you want to ask me why the same bokoharam release freely the second kidnap because they are Muslim girls and keep the first one that are same Muslim girls ? pls pls pls.. spare me off that bokoshit.

pls lets stay on the topic. do not go on boko haram issue because that to me is just a political terror group used by military bandits and their sponsors to extracts billions from government. last i remember someone took 1 billion USD for same reason we are still budgeting billions yearly.

1. firstly. i did not reason south south or north north or Christian Christian or Muslim Muslim mentality that till today takes us backwards. we have done all the faith related politics and whats the result ?

2. i am not saying there's no one good enough from the north but if there's truly why bring Buhari ? is buhari a technocrat ? someone fela called ************* and even till now the same north has no one else but still asking the Nigerian people to still vote for Buhari come 2019? if they have i am sure they will bring it forward. you don't give what you don't have. am sorry.

3. in regards to Yoruba Muslim technocrat and a Northern Christian technocrats. stop trying to bring the northern and southern mentality bro. kill it. it doesn't work till today. also if i know or if there's any better popular technocrats like NOI from the north pls call her name and bring her forward. if she truly qualifies then lets move on. same from any part of this country. i choosed NOI because she is from the East. this will not only put an end to IPOB/other eastern struggles but also creates rooms for gender equality. at least if we say we don't trust igbo man, we can trust igbo woman na.

4. and about this your assertion "The south don't trust north and Muslim don't trust Christian and vice versa'' IS A POLITICAL MENTALITY.
if there's no trust why still call for 1 Nigeria ? why not split it so we all enjoy the diversity as you want it to remain. Dubai is arab country and i want to believe they are Muslims too. do you know how many Christians resides there and visit there almost Daily ? Nigeria Christian Muslim/north south problems are political. else you will not find an igbo man in the north nor find an house man in the south or east. come AKS here and see northerners doing their business and even has their Mosque. no problem. go to alaba international, you see igbo/housa/yoruba all together doing their businesses and patronizing one another. anytime you see any issues arising check it properly. its political. its not natural.

well.. i am isoko man from delta state/south. neither of both are my family but we should point out better people who are qualify for certain positions irrespective of who they are and where they come from. else we bring a foreigner to rule us for 10yrs while we fix our political sense of reasoning.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 1:29pm On Jun 07, 2018
FriendNG:


We are not talking of what the court says. Even evans is still innocent. But she knows and she said it based on some of her statement that she precide over the looting of this country. You're the 1 who doesn't understand how things go.

bro, i know a real criminal from a fake reported criminal. the same person you call criminal is working in where presently ?
all those political fight na wash. i am not deceived by all that bullcrap news about anyone. who no be thief for APC eye? as long as you no support buhari you be thief. that's the sense of reasoning now. ask BMC for more info on that.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by FriendNG: 1:48pm On Jun 07, 2018
richeso:


my friend, i wouldn't want us to start talking about the north and south issue here else the thread will lost its purpose as you are trying to do.
also i don't want to go into bokoharam issue because the way i see it might be different from the way you see it. because if you do not put on considerations the so many same northern elders, political group and even the military insincerity to the efforts of GEJ to end boko haram then i can't discuss with you on such topics. go and study that time properly. from the inside enemies sabotaging efforts, up to USA refusals down to distractive protests daily. i need not to tell you how politics works. the same BBOG campaigner was arrested and disgraced in the police station in this buhari time.. you ask me why ? or you want to ask me why the same bokoharam release freely the second kidnap because they are Muslim girls and keep the first one that are same Muslim girls ? pls pls pls.. spare me off that bokoshit.

pls lets stay on the topic. do not go on boko haram issue because that to me is just a political terror group used by military bandits and their sponsors to extracts billions from government. last i remember someone took 1 billion USD for same reason we are still budgeting billions yearly.


You dont want us to discuss on this and you are still replying me on that? Jonathan failed when it come to Boko haram accept it or leave it. Boko Haram have too factions now, the Shekau faction and ISIS faction. Those who return the girls are ISIS faction and not that of Shekau. Buhari budgeted 1 billion to buy weapons? Did I tell u that boko haram are no more? What I said is it iwas not what it was during Gej.

That some alleged northerners sabotage the fight during Gej period hold no water. Same way some politician sabotage Buhari in the Niger delta. He used his presidential power to overcome it. USA refuse to sell Jet to us. Let me ask you, where is the USA jets now that Buhari is fighting Boko haram? We buy from Pakistan and russia. Dont we?


1. firstly. i did not reason south south or north north or Christian Christian or Muslim Muslim mentality that till today takes us backwards. we have done all the faith related politics and whats the result ?

2. i am not saying there's no one good enough from the north but if there's truly why bring Buhari ? is buhari a technocrat ? someone fela called ************* and even till now the same north has no one else but still asking the Nigerian people to still vote for Buhari come 2019? if they have i am sure they will bring it forward. you don't give what you don't have. am sorry.

Then you are wasting your time. Nigeria dont operate based on your personal reasoning. Every region is after a popular candidate that can gain support and not technocrat. For example Sunusi is a technocrat but he will lose because he doesent have the support.

3. in regards to Yoruba Muslim technocrat and a Northern Christian technocrats. stop trying to bring the northern and southern mentality bro. kill it. it doesn't work till today. also if i know or if there's any better popular technocrats like NOI from the north pls call her name and bring her forward. if she truly qualifies then lets move on. same from any part of this country. i choosed NOI because she is from the East. this will not only put an end to IPOB/other eastern struggles but also creates rooms for gender equality. at least if we say we don't trust igbo man, we can trust igbo woman na.


Amina j Muhammd. Let me just leave you on this choose any one you want to choose you will fail. If you must choose a person from te north u must choose from the south. A single south or north cannot win election in todays Nigeria. Belve it or not

4. and about this your assertion "The south don't trust north and Muslim don't trust Christian and vice versa'' IS A POLITICAL MENTALITY.
if there's no trust why still call for 1 Nigeria ? why not split it so we all enjoy the diversity as you want it to remain. Dubai is arab country and i want to believe they are Muslims too. do you know how many Christians resides there and visit there almost Daily ? Nigeria Christian Muslim/north south problems are political. else you will not find an igbo man in the north nor find an house man in the south or east. come AKS here and see northerners doing their business and even has their Mosque. no problem. go to alaba international, you see igbo/housa/yoruba all together doing their businesses and patronizing one another. anytime you see any issues arising check it properly. its political. its not natural.

well.. i am isoko man from delta state/south. neither of both are my family but we should point out better people who are qualify for certain positions irrespective of who they are and where they come from. else we bring a foreigner to rule us for 10yrs while we fix our political sense of reasoning.



Whether it is political or not it doesent change the reality on ground. Use that ticket of presidency u wanted too and let another party choose a northerner and southerner, a muslim/christian tickect. I promise u you will failed. You are basing your opinion based on what u think.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by FriendNG: 1:53pm On Jun 07, 2018
richeso:


bro, i know a real criminal from a fake reported criminal. the same person you call criminal is working in where presently ?
all those political fight na wash. i am not deceived by all that bullcrap news about anyone. who no be thief for APC eye? as long as you no support buhari you be thief. that's the sense of reasoning now. ask BMC for more info on that.


Who is talking of thief here. All I said is "She preside over the looting of the economy" She herself did not denied that y are u defending such?

She describe how they did not save and have being spending the money. How they bribe the national assemby 17B for budget to be passed.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 2:05pm On Jun 07, 2018
FriendNG:



Who is talking of thief here. All I said is "She preside over the looting of the economy" She herself did not denied that while are u defending such?

She describe how they did not save and have being spending the money. How they bribe the national assemby 17B for budget to be passed.

wow.. if she truly said all this, to me that's accountability. shes not the one to be blamed. the Governors are the one to be blamed, they even went to court for this same issue when she refused at first. that has nothing to do with her. she is clean.

was she the one who brought the idea of sharing money ? do you know how many times she refused ? do you know how many times she warned the governors of their actions ? pls don't bring her into such mess. she did her part to save funds but the governors do not want to save. so not her fault.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by FriendNG: 2:09pm On Jun 07, 2018
richeso:


wow.. if she truly said all this, to me that's accountability. shes not the one to be blamed. the Governors are the one to be blamed, they even went to court for this same issue when she refused at first. that has nothing to do with her. she is clean.

was she the one who brought the idea of sharing money ? do you know how many times she refused ? do you know how many times she warned the governors of their actions ? pls don't bring her into such mess. she did her part to save funds but the governors do not want to save. so not her fault.

Nope that is not the only point. 17BN bribe for the budget to be passed nko? She even predicted recession. If all this things are happening under you, under your watch and u keep quiet and later when the nation economy has crumbled u come out to make noise. Why didnt she said it then like sunusi so that Nigerians will applaud her sincerity. She preside the bribing of National assembly with N17 BN
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 2:43pm On Jun 07, 2018

You dont want us to discuss on this and you are still replying me on that? Jonathan failed when it come to Boko haram accept it or leave it. Boko Haram have too factions now, the Shekau faction and ISIS faction. Those who return the girls are ISIS faction and not that of Shekau. Buhari budgeted 1 billion to buy weapons? Did I tell u that boko haram are no more? What I said is it iwas not what it was during Gej.

That some alleged northerners sabotage the fight during Gej period hold no water. Same way some politician sabotage Buhari in the Niger delta. He used his presidential power to overcome it. USA refuse to sell Jet to us. Let me ask you, where is the USA jets now that Buhari is fighting Boko haram? We buy from Pakistan and russia. Dont we?
lets leave it but if you choose to talk it. no problem but i mwill not go much on it so i can keep the purpose of the thread intact. in regards to GEJ. sorry i do not called that a failure. you win when you get supports. and lose when you don't have supports. there's no way someone from the Niger Delta will sabotage buhari effort bros. Niger delta is south and not north. you can only sabotage effort when you are in the north. the main location where the problem lies. if you say we have two factions now. where is the first faction and during when did Shekau get killed ?
why was the first faction don't take note of same reason second faction noted ? or they have different motives ? at which regim do we see raw evidence including pictures and videos etc on success win of bokoharam ? was Buhari totally against Bokoharam during GEJ era ?

Then you are wasting your time. Nigeria dont operate based on your personal reasoning. Every region is after a popular candidate that can gain support and not technocrat. For example Sunusi is a technocrat but he will lose because he doesent have the support.
well.. i can not really point out how sanusi is truly a technocrat with his style of politics. NOI does not indulge in propaganda's and does not indulge in favorism unlike Sanusi. we have been practicing popularity and that's why the north instead of sanusi who is a technocrat( to you )gave us buhari and the result is what Nigeria is now. so who popularity help ? bros we don't want popularity again oooooooooooo e no help we want technocrats.

in terms of Accountability, Economy growth planning, Turing Nigeria to Investor Friendly Country and strategic policies to promote Unity and Peace. Buhari and NOI who will win ? if they bring debate between the two who is even more outspoken ? is NOI not popular too ?
lets not bring people that are just popular for heaven sake even Evans is popular na. lets bring in Technocrats , people that are QUALIFIED not POPULAR.2face is popular no mean say i go vote am for president na.


Amina j Muhammd. Let me just leave you on this choose any one you want to choose you will fail. If you must choose a person from te north u must choose from the south. A single south or north cannot win election in todays Nigeria. Belve it or not
please send me her profile let me go through. who is she and what position in Government has she contained ?
bros. i will not continue this north north or south south matter pls. Nigeria do not have Only the north and south. its North, East and West. its the East and West that brought about the South. thats why we have the Housa, Ibo and Yoruba as the Major language.


Whether it is political or not it doesent change the reality on ground. Use that ticket of presidency u wanted too and let another party choose a northerner and southerner, a muslim/christian tickect. I promise u you will failed. You are basing your opinion based on what u think.
bros you are thinking old school and not the present day 2018 Nigeria that NOW understands its not by popularity or region that determines serious development or growth. let me bring up technocrats that are truly qualified that comes form the south only or north only and let someone else bring theirs that's north and south but not technocrats and lets see who will win in this present day Nigeria outside of political thuggery or blackmail or rigging. bros i go win hands down.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 2:57pm On Jun 07, 2018
FriendNG:


Nope that is not the only point. 17BN bribe for the budget to be passed nko? She even predicted recession. If all this things are happening under you, under your watch and u keep quiet and later when the nation economy has crumbled u come out to make noise. Why didnt she said it then like sunusi so that Nigerians will applaud her sincerity. She preside the bribing of National assembly with N17 BN

was NOI the one who brought about the idea in the first place ?
She predicted recession based on the facts on ground that the country ( Governors )was not ready to save. so he is even better and factual.

If all this things are happening under you, under your watch and u keep quiet and later when the nation economy has crumbled u come out to make noise.
bros. you just said she predicted recession and that was before buhari came in. she said all this things down and even warned the governors as you and i know it. but they did not listen to her. so what the heavensake you want her to do ? do you know the governors even went to Court in regards ? why would the governors go to court if she accepted their demands without cautioning and even denying their request ? you should blame your governors and not her. she played her role well and defend her office but the Governors did not. and she did not personally go and bribe anyone or brought up the idea to bribe anyone as far as i can remember.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by FriendNG: 3:04pm On Jun 07, 2018
richeso:

lets leave it but if you choose to talk it. no problem but i mwill not go much on it so i can keep the purpose of the thread intact. in regards to GEJ. sorry i do not called that a failure. you win when you get supports. and lose when you don't have supports. there's no way someone from the Niger Delta will sabotage buhari effort bros. Niger delta is south and not north. you can only sabotage effort when you are in the north.

No. You're clearly lying. The avengers are they from the north? Have they not threaten to blow Pipeline if some people are investigated. Have they not blow the pipeline.?

Has the government be able to bring the crises down?

You have no justification to GEJ failure in Boko Haram.


the main location where the problem lies. if you say we have two factions now. where is the first faction and during when did Shekau get killed ?
why was the first faction don't take note of same reason second faction noted ? or they have different motives ? at which regim do we see raw evidence including pictures and videos etc on success win of bokoharam ? was Buhari totally against Bokoharam during GEJ era ? [/quoted]

Shekau was alleged to be killed many times during GEJ and also Buhari time. Secondly the faction was about leadership and difference in ideology between Shekau faction and Isis faction led by mammam Nur. Whether Buhari is against or not totally opposing or supporting Boko Haram is baseless. The Commander in Chief is GEJ and he has to do everything to stop. This can never be an excuse.


[quote] well.. i can not really point out how sanusi is truly a technocrat with his style of politics. NOI does not indulge in propaganda's and does not indulge in favorism unlike Sanusi. we have been practicing popularity and that's why the north instead of sanusi who is a technocrat( to you )gave us buhari and the result is what Nigeria is now. so who popularity help ? bros we don't want popularity again oooooooooooo e no help we want technocrats.

in terms of Accountability, Economy growth planning, Turing Nigeria to Investor Friendly Country and strategic policies to promote Unity and Peace. Buhari and NOI who will win ? if they bring debate between the two who is even more outspoken ? is NOI not popular too ?
lets not bring people that are just popular for heaven sake even Evans is popular na. lets bring in Technocrats , people that are QUALIFIED not POPULAR.2face is popular no mean say i go vote am for president na.

Buhari will win NOI anytime any day in the polls. You can take that to the bank. She may win him in debate but not in polls. And save this date, Politician will win the election 2019 not technocrats. You don't have to believe sunusi is technocrat or not. Your opinion doesn't count. Because he is.


please send me her profile let me go through. who is she and what position in Government has she contained ?


If you don't know Amina j Muhammad then you are far from what the society is. She served 3 president obj, Yaradua, Buhari. And now she is United Nation Deputy Sec Gen. She is From Gombe state.


bros. i will not continue this north north or south south matter pls. Nigeria do not have Only the north and south. its North, East and West. its the East and West that brought about the South. thats why we have the Housa, Ibo and Yoruba as the Major language.

And I am not going to accept your fake analysis. There is nothing like west and east in Nigeria. We only have North (NW NE NC) and south (SS SE SE). Any other thing not this is personal opinion that doesn't hold any water.



bros you are thinking old school and not the present day 2018 Nigeria that NOW understands its not by popularity or region that determines serious development or growth. let me bring up technocrats that are truly qualified that comes form the south only or north only and let someone else bring theirs that's north and south but not technocrats and lets see who will win in this present day Nigeria outside of political thuggery or blackmail or rigging. bros i go win hands down.

The Nigeria in 2018 is the Nigeria where certain religious body have divided and brainwashed their followers. It is a Nigeria where a Muslim-muslim ticket or south-south &VC presidential ticket will never see the light of the day.


Do you think you will get votes in the north with that ticket? You will lose 100 in NW and NE. You will get 30% in NC. You will have 50% in South West. You can secure SS and sE.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by FriendNG: 3:09pm On Jun 07, 2018
richeso:


was NOI the one who brought about the idea in the first place ?
She predicted recession based on the facts on ground that the country ( Governors )was not ready to save. so he is even better and factual.

bros. you just said she predicted recession and that was before buhari came in. she said all this things down and even warned the governors as you and i know it. but they did not listen to her. so what the heavensake you want her to do ? do you know the governors even went to Court in regards ? why would the governors go to court if she accepted their demands without cautioning and even denying their request ? you should blame your governors and not her. she played her role well and defend her office but the Governors did not. and she did not personally go and bribe anyone or brought up the idea to bribe anyone as far as i can remember.


why are you shying away from the 17BN Naira bribe to National assembly?

And looting of this country is not all about governors that you're ranting about. The governors issue is about excess crude account. Even in such excess crude account $10 billion was first missing by the federal government, amechi ask ngozi about it, then she said the president ask her to do dis dat blala.

It was after that the governors demanded their share.

The foreign reserve was depleted to half from 60bn to 30bn for what?
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 7:22pm On Jun 07, 2018

why are you shying away from the 17BN Naira bribe to National assembly?

And looting of this country is not all about governors that you're ranting about. The governors issue is about excess crude account. Even in such excess crude account $10 billion was first missing by the federal government, amechi ask ngozi about it, then she said the president ask her to do dis dat blala.

It was after that the governors demanded their share.

The foreign reserve was depleted to half from 60bn to 30bn for what?

[quote]why are you shying away from the 17BN Naira bribe to National assembly?
right now as we speak. list me the cases she has in court with the EFCC.
also, list me document that she is masterminds of any bribery or alleged conspirators etc.
you are confusing yourself. its like calling the CBN Governor a bad name because he release the funds as DIRECTED by whoever . its her duty. she is controlling office. shes not the president to make decisions or the senate. she takes instructions OGA. the president didn't just wakeup and say give this money or not, there's a need for the money and go to the court and demand what this money are used for. thank God you happen to know the one the Governors requested. same way you can make your findings. but you do not call NOI any bad because she executed an instruction passed to her. do you know how many times she questions instructions ? do you know its because the governors went to court that makes the request made public ? do you know how fustrative her office becomes before she starts complaining ? do you know how many Northern Governors do all heaven-could-take to make Nigeria Economic a so bad one ? pls. pls.. we are going off the topic as it seems.
the same person you are accusing is heading one among highest office in the world that includes financial decisions. do you think the world leaders are stupid like *** or easily deceived by cheap propaganda's like major Nigerians ?

you seems never to know the real truth from the fake rubbish headline on billions stolen/trillion stolen news from APC Liers.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 7:47pm On Jun 07, 2018
FriendNG:


No. You're clearly lying. The avengers are they from the north? Have they not threaten to blow Pipeline if some people are investigated. Have they not blow the pipeline.?

Has the government be able to bring the crises down?

You have no justification to GEJ failure in Boko Haram.



the very moment you compare Avengers to Bokoharam i give up on you. Avengers are accessible and humans to talk to. they don't kill people but blow up pipelines unlike Bokoharam that you can't talk to nor have interests to listen to you. if they ever did. i could remember GEJ even tried to Negotiate with this idiots. there's nothing absolutely nothing GEJ didn't do. but as you may have it your northerners do not like GEJ thats a simple fact. and not by performance nor ability but pure hatred they didn't vote him. and it was Osibanjo that went to calm the youths. Avangers did not in truth blow anything. they only gave threats to attract attention. there's a difference between the Avangers in OJB time and Buhari time. the Avangers did not disturb Buhari regime because it might perceived a fight back from the south. we are not idiots and cowards.

if GEJ was still in power. trust me. Boko haram will be history because even the sponsors will be brought to book. lot of things will be exposed. if you doubt me. release Dasuki and allow him freedom and access to his documents. you go fear who and who finger go point.

in regards to Buhari and NOI. its a shame to have a president that can't even debate. WTF!. Its more embarrassing to compare such type of person with NOI. only fools and cowards most especially illiterates will vote in such a person to power. and the problem of Nigeria needs a solution to fix it. we can not continue this your prefer rubbish system or method that keeps us this way low. we need to try something new. something not done before. we have tried your method all this years. is there any improvement ? if not. pls. can we try mine ?

and if you think Nigeria is Made up of Only North and South. then i will advice to recheck it properly.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by FriendNG: 12:05am On Jun 08, 2018
richeso:


the very moment you compare Avengers to Bokoharam i give up on you. Avengers are accessible and humans to talk to. they don't kill people but blow up pipelines unlike Bokoharam that you can't talk to nor have interests to listen to you. if they ever did. i could remember GEJ even tried to Negotiate with this idiots. there's nothing absolutely nothing GEJ didn't do. but as you may have it your northerners do not like GEJ thats a simple fact. and not by performance nor ability but pure hatred they didn't vote him.

Absolute trash like say southerners except south west love Buhari. Absolute rubbish. Jonathan failed in fight against Boko Haram. I dont care about your comparison between boko haram and avengers thats not my point. The fact that Buhari find a way to end the crisis is a plus to the nation. While jonathan allow the money meant to purchase arms to fight Boko haram to few individuals to loot in order for him to be reelected.



and it was Osibanjo that went to calm the youths.

Whether Osinbanjo, rotimi ameachi or Rochas okorocha it is still Buhari that did it. is it Buhari that go on his foot to negotiate the release of Chibok girls?



Avangers did not in truth blow anything. they only gave threats to attract attention. there's a difference between the Avangers in OJB time and Buhari time. the Avangers did not disturb Buhari regime because it might perceived a fight back from the south. we are not idiots and cowards.


Are they your brothers? Why are you lying?

Just In: Niger Delta Avengers bomb NNPC pipelines

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2016/05/27/just-in-niger-delta-avengers-bomb-nnpc-pipelines/


Avengers blow up NNPC pipeline in Akwa Ibom
http://sunnewsonline.com/avengers-blow-up-nnpc-pipeline-in-akwa-ibom/
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/07/avengers-blow-nnpc-gas-pipeline-ibom/


Niger Delta Avengers Blow Up Oil Pipelines To Kaduna, Warri Refineries‎
http://saharareporters.com/2016/05/06/niger-delta-avengers-blow-oil-pipelines-kaduna-warri-refineries%E2%80%8E


if GEJ was still in power. trust me. Boko haram will be history because even the sponsors will be brought to book. lot of things will be exposed. if you doubt me. release Dasuki and allow him freedom and access to his documents. you go fear who and who finger go point.

Story. Something he fails to do in 6 years is what he will do in 4 more years?

in regards to Buhari and NOI. its a shame to have a president that can't even debate. WTF!. Its more embarrassing to compare such type of person with NOI. only fools and cowards most especially illiterates will vote in such a person to power. and the problem of Nigeria needs a solution to fix it.

To say Buhari cannot debate is absolute rubbish.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&gl=NG&v=yDAyUYcmudc

Here is he debating in 2011 presidential election.

Part of those fools and coward that will vote some1 that refused to debate is people of the South that voted Jonathan despite his refusal to participate in 2011 presidential debate.

NN24 Presidential debate: Why Jonathan won’t participate

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/03/nn24-presidential-debate-why-jonathan-won%E2%80%99t-participate/


we can not continue this your prefer rubbish system or method that keeps us this way low. we need to try something new. something not done before. we have tried your method all this years. is there any improvement ? if not. pls. can we try mine ?

and if you think Nigeria is Made up of Only North and South. then i will advice to recheck it properly.

You are here thinking your south south ticket or christian ticket will work in Nigeria. Do you think Nigeria lies between the discussion between u and I. If you think my affirmation to your South/South ticket will guarantee their election. So then go with it.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by babyfaceafrica: 7:31am On Jun 08, 2018
Op..please.. Can you help...I need someone that can speak isoko fluently
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 11:00am On Jun 08, 2018
FriendNG:


Absolute trash like say southerners except south west love Buhari. Absolute rubbish. Jonathan failed in fight against Boko Haram. I dont care about your comparison between boko haram and avengers thats not my point. The fact that Buhari find a way to end the crisis is a plus to the nation. While jonathan allow the money meant to purchase arms to fight Boko haram to few individuals to loot in order for him to be reelected.





Whether Osinbanjo, rotimi ameachi or Rochas okorocha it is still Buhari that did it. is it Buhari that go on his foot to negotiate the release of Chibok girls?





Are they your brothers? Why are you lying?

Just In: Niger Delta Avengers bomb NNPC pipelines

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2016/05/27/just-in-niger-delta-avengers-bomb-nnpc-pipelines/


Avengers blow up NNPC pipeline in Akwa Ibom
http://sunnewsonline.com/avengers-blow-up-nnpc-pipeline-in-akwa-ibom/
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/07/avengers-blow-nnpc-gas-pipeline-ibom/


Niger Delta Avengers Blow Up Oil Pipelines To Kaduna, Warri Refineries‎
http://saharareporters.com/2016/05/06/niger-delta-avengers-blow-oil-pipelines-kaduna-warri-refineries%E2%80%8E




Story. Something he fails to do in 6 years is what he will do in 4 more years?



To say Buhari cannot debate is absolute rubbish.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&gl=NG&v=yDAyUYcmudc

Here is he debating in 2011 presidential election.

Part of those fools and coward that will vote some1 that refused to debate is people of the South that voted Jonathan despite his refusal to participate in 2011 presidential debate.

NN24 Presidential debate: Why Jonathan won’t participate

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/03/nn24-presidential-debate-why-jonathan-won%E2%80%99t-participate/




You are here thinking your south south ticket or christian ticket will work in Nigeria. Do you think Nigeria lies between the discussion between u and I. If you think my affirmation to your South/South ticket will guarantee their election. So then go with it.

you don't know what is called hatred if you do you will understand that if the south truly want to frustrate Buhari. you will not even see internet to browse talk more of fuel to put for your generator. we are not mindless and cowards or powerdrunk like our brothers who can do anything , absolutely anything to see a southerner fall. GEJ did his best for the Norths to show you we love our brothers and in return the north did what ?
do not talk about hatred here pls. lets not kill this thread with north and south misunderstanding.

GEJ ruled for 4yrs as i know not 6yrs as you know. there's a difference from acting president to an elected president. and during GEJ regime, Nigerians aren't suffering like we do now. almost all corners of Nigeria are doing very very well. its birth many millionaires and billionaires. many jobs and business growth. only the northers create severe tensions to cause distractions and manipulations to bring problems in all corners to frustrate GEJ with the help of the South West( that's why its hard to trust the yorubas today)

Anyway. i have present my opinion for Nigerians to look into. you can present yours so we also look into it.

am waiting to read you tell me to vote Buhari.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 11:05am On Jun 08, 2018
babyfaceafrica:
Op..please.. Can you help...I need someone that can speak isoko fluently

i can help. how can i ?
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by babyfaceafrica: 11:28am On Jun 08, 2018
richeso:


i can help. how can i ?
please where do you stay?
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by FriendNG: 1:39pm On Jun 08, 2018
richeso:


you don't know what is called hatred if you do you will understand that if the south truly want to frustrate Buhari. you will not even see internet to browse talk more of fuel to put for your generator. we are not mindless and cowards or powerdrunk like our brothers who can do anything , absolutely anything to see a southerner fall. GEJ did his best for the Norths to show you we love our brothers and in return the north did what ?
do not talk about hatred here pls. lets not kill this thread with north and south misunderstanding.

Mtsw Look at you. Tell that to 2 years old kid. After I burst your lies now you are talking rubbish. Buhari has to lunch operation crocodile smile in south south, you guys are sabotaging his government until recently when a dialogue was attained. You are talking of fuel, the light in this country belongs to the northern part of Nigeria Hydroelectric power. Do the south give north fuel to use in generator for free? Even as I speak to you Niger republic oil is being sold in some part of the north. I myself have buy it during the first oil crises when it was raised to 145.

Jonathan did what to the north, everyday northeners are killed like ant and all he could do id to share money between his politicians.

GEJ ruled for 4yrs as i know not 6yrs as you know. there's a difference from acting president to an elected president.
No you are clearly lying. After he spend time as acting president, we was later sworn in. he officially become the president on 6th of may 2010.

and during GEJ regime, Nigerians aren't suffering like we do now. almost all corners of Nigeria are doing very very well. its birth many millionaires and billionaires. many jobs and business growth. only the northers create severe tensions to cause distractions and manipulations to bring problems in all corners to frustrate GEJ with the help of the South West( that's why its hard to trust the yorubas today)

Speak for yourself we northerners are being killed on daily basis. I could remember that time, we couldnt go to schools in the morning. Sometimes we laid done on the flow for fear of astray bullet. If you think the north is something to play with then you are on a long thing. Jonathan dont care about lives but money.


Anyway. i have present my opinion for Nigerians to look into. you can present yours so we also look into it.

am waiting to read you tell me to vote Buhari.

I will vote Buhari. You vote who you like. 1 things I can assure u is, any1 u vote will fail xcept Buhari.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by FriendNG: 1:59pm On Jun 08, 2018
richeso:
right now as we speak. list me the cases she has in court with the EFCC.
also, list me document that she is masterminds of any bribery or alleged conspirators etc.
you are confusing yourself. its like calling the CBN Governor a bad name because he release the funds as DIRECTED by whoever . its her duty. she is controlling office. shes not the president to make decisions or the senate. she takes instructions OGA. the president didn't just wakeup and say give this money or not, there's a need for the money and go to the court and demand what this money are used for. thank God you happen to know the one the Governors requested. same way you can make your findings. but you do not call NOI any bad because she executed an instruction passed to her. do you know how many times she questions instructions ? do you know its because the governors went to court that makes the request made public ? do you know how fustrative her office becomes before she starts complaining ? do you know how many Northern Governors do all heaven-could-take to make Nigeria Economic a so bad one ? pls. pls.. we are going off the topic as it seems.
the same person you are accusing is heading one among highest office in the world that includes financial decisions. do you think the world leaders are stupid like *** or easily deceived by cheap propaganda's like major Nigerians ?

you seems never to know the real truth from the fake rubbish headline on billions stolen/trillion stolen news from APC Liers.

You can choose to believe what you wan to. NOI herself write in her book that they have to pay national assembly N17BN for the budget to be passed. It beats my imagination why you will be denying that. $10 was used in the excess crude account even before the governors demanded their share. For what? Pls tell us what $10 was used for since you know Ngozi very well.

Let me tell you the governors did right in asking for their share. I have no issue with that, the money belong to all state. My issue is that of federal spending. And to tell me northern governors do bad to economy is actually stupid and rubbish. Ameachi was the first to rise an issue on the gradual missiing of $1BN at every meeting of the NEC. Before money can be withdrawn from the crude account, the states have to approve it. And each state got it share but you choose to blame northern gov. In this case the state dont know about it, Jonathan and ngozi are the ones doing their thing.


Tell us what was $30BN from the foreign reserve was used for under the watch of Ngozi? Is it electricity? stadiums? or ultra modern hospitals?
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 2:24pm On Jun 09, 2018

Mtsw Look at you. Tell that to 2 years old kid. After I burst your lies now you are talking rubbish. Buhari has to lunch operation crocodile smile in south south, you guys are sabotaging his government until recently when a dialogue was attained. You are talking of fuel, the light in this country belongs to the northern part of Nigeria Hydroelectric power. Do the south give north fuel to use in generator for free? Even as I speak to you Niger republic oil is being sold in some part of the north. I myself have buy it during the first oil crises when it was raised to 145.
wow. very funny. so na the crocodile smile make peace or the dialogue ?


Jonathan did what to the north, everyday northerners are killed like ant and all he could do id to share money between his politicians.
if you said GEJ did nothing for the North. then i must say you don't have any conscience at all. and i am truly done talking to you.


No you are clearly lying. After he spend time as acting president, we was later sworn in. he officially become the president on 6th of may 2010.

My guy. i wonder how you reason. i think you are same BMC rats. how can someone be sworn in in 2010 when the election was held 2011 ?
[img]https:///5754349aa5f876a21d5de481f2e818cc.png[/img]



Speak for yourself we northerners are being killed on daily basis. I could remember that time, we couldnt go to schools in the morning. Sometimes we laid done on the flow for fear of astray bullet. If you think the north is something to play with then you are on a long thing. Jonathan dont care about lives but money.



I will vote Buhari. You vote who you like. 1 things I can assure u is, any1 u vote will fail xcept Buhari.

I am done with you. I wanted to reply you more but if you had said yourself that the north has QUALIFIED technocrats who are young, vibrant and Know what Governance is at this digital age but give us Buhari for year 2019 means the North is the real Problem of the Country.

all your Opinions and Assertions becomes a total waste for selling me Buhari for Presidency comes 2019 ( not even 1999 oo wtf)

I lost interests in discussing with you. not replying your comments any longer. i want to discuss with Nigerians. Not some BMC E-rats.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by richeso: 3:29pm On Jun 09, 2018
babyfaceafrica:
please where do you stay?

Sunrise Estate, Lagos.
Re: Osibanjo/okonjo Iwela Ror 2019, My Opinion by Nobody: 3:47pm On Jun 09, 2018
richeso:

wow. very funny. so na the crocodile smile make peace or the dialogue ?


if you said GEJ did nothing for the North. then i must say you don't have any conscience at all. and i am truly done talking to you.



My guy. i wonder how you reason. i think you are same BMC rats. how can someone be sworn in in 2010 when the election was held 2011 ?
[img]https:///5754349aa5f876a21d5de481f2e818cc.png[/img]




I am done with you. I wanted to reply you more but if you had said yourself that the north has QUALIFIED technocrats who are young, vibrant and Know what Governance is at this digital age but give us Buhari for year 2019 means the North is the real Problem of the Country.

all your Opinions and Assertions becomes a total waste for selling me Buhari for Presidency comes 2019 ( not even 1999 oo wtf)

I lost interests in discussing with you. not replying your comments any longer. i want to discuss with Nigerians. Not some BMC E-rats.



Gej concentrated so much north that he forgot his political bloc of SE/SS

but what happened in 2015 we voted for him again....coz we love him.

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