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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by KingSango(m): 9:31pm On Jun 13, 2018
What's wrong with standing together as Nigerians to demand the return of Nigerian art? Why the fighting each other and never uniting?


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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 9:38pm On Jun 13, 2018
KingSango:



What's wrong with standing together as Nigerians to demand the return of Nigerian art? Why the fighting each other and never uniting?


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Please there is nothing like Nigerian art.. it’s Edo arts..
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by KingSango(m): 9:44pm On Jun 13, 2018
davidnazee:


Please there is nothing like Nigerian art.. it’s Edo arts..


There's only one Nigeria in the eyes of the world only Nigerians see themselves as different from each other. First Nigerian I ever meet was Hausa and he was a good person. End the ethnic nonsense, all empires in Afrika at one point out advantaged another. The Benin royal line didn't have a male heir so they married their princess to a Yoruba prince to keep the bloodline royal. Benin royalty is first class because they only married royalty, Oyo royal bloodline is first class because they only marry royalty. Some royal families are so adamant about keeping their blood royal they will marry another royal family of a different ethnic group to keep from marrying commoners. This reason is why Afrika has the oldest royalty in the world and goes back to the beginning of the human race. This is something not taught to modern Afrikans in schools because you're learning colonial education not Afrikan civilization.

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 2:31am On Jun 14, 2018
davidnazee:


Oni that cannot keep a wife.. your Oni is a serial divorcee. Which example is he giving Yoruba children??
but shut ur dumbass mouth which serial divorcée. The ooni is his own man. But if u want to keep attacking his personal life be careful cuz ur village king is without one I will find it and bring it all out. Ur king is married to three wife who always have to cover there mouth in his presence and still probably marrying more u can also ask what example is he giving edo children especially ur girls.

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 2:36am On Jun 14, 2018
Moneywomen17:
but shut ur dumbass mouth which serial divorcée. The ooni is his own man. But if u want to keep attacking his personal life be careful cuz ur village king is without one I will find it and bring it all out. Ur king is married to three wife who always have to cover there mouth in his presence and still probably marrying more u can also ask what example is he giving edo children especially ur girls.

Polygamy is an African thing.. but serial divorcee is not.
It seems u don’t know u Oni has divorced up to three women.

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Moneywomen17(m): 2:41am On Jun 14, 2018
davidnazee:


Polygamy is an African thing.. but serial divorcee is not.
It seems u don’t know u Oni has divorced up to three women.
and I said what does that have to do with his throne. The only women who he divorce on the throne is the edo women or is there anyone else. My question is once more what does that have to do with his throne. Why not see his divorce has polygamy but instead of keeping the women around he let them away.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by steveosaz(m): 8:42am On Jun 14, 2018
Moneywomen17:
and I said what does that have to do with his throne. The only women who he divorce on the throne is the edo women or is there anyone else. My question is once more what does that have to do with his throne. Why not see his divorce has polygamy but instead of keeping the women around he let them away.

You're really a shafty brain she animal. Couldn't believe your type still thread this terrestrial plain. Your ooni is the embodiment of fakery from head to toe. The man is a fraudster taken to the cleaners by the family of sijuade and other yorubas. This thread would help articulate all in one place the criminality and fraudulent nature of the ooni and the institution of his office.
Alaafin in number one king in yo-robber land. Go and argue with your ancestors.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 3:58pm On Jun 14, 2018
nisai:
Physicsqed absence is indeed a hugh brain drain to a particular people.

Y0ruba abeg you dey acecept desciples make I enroll sharperly.

Meanwhile bro, I need you to send me some books I need to add knowledge and catch up with you. Thanks in advance.


Disciples keh? We are all lifetime leaners. I have journal articles on Yoruba history mostly and quite a bunch on Bini history. Which did you refer to in your post or would you prefer both?

Let’s start with this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ec5fs4nqm4ngwl4/The%20Benin%20Kinglist%20Some%20Questions%20of%20Chronology.pdf?dl=0

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by nisai: 8:13pm On Jun 14, 2018
Y0ruba:



Disciples keh? We are all lifetime leaners. I have journal articles on Yoruba history mostly and quite a bunch on Bini history. Which did you refer to in your post or would you prefer both?

Let’s start with this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ec5fs4nqm4ngwl4/The%20Benin%20Kinglist%20Some%20Questions%20of%20Chronology.pdf?dl=0
Yoruba history bro. I need to widen my reading base on my people's history and be like you.

Thanks. Wo se bami. May you never lack intelligence.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 3:18am On Jun 15, 2018
Ekladheran Steve,
You said your ancestor was a priest.

Of which cult?

This is third time i asked this question. grin

I already told you eklahderan is a hoax but you wouldnt believe.

Tell me the cult that his priesthood belongs to. grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by gregyboy(m): 11:21am On Jun 15, 2018
Moneywomen17:
shut up there dumbass u think everybody is a fool like u. Ooni statue was in ur king palace coz ur king was probably worshipping it and no way implies any Benin superiority rather ife superiority over Benin so ur king and his subject knows who the boss his. And don’t deceive urself Benin worship Yoruba god like Sango ogun not the other way round. Ife made Benin and name that’s making someone ur son. Ile ife land of expansion has became a Benin word lol well welcome back dumbass greg


Before this statue was brought out yorubas made a statement that oba of benin heads were buried in ife with no prove to it ....they made most nigerians believe that lie even upto other part of edo they believed until the ooni statue was dugged up in benin ...i was hoping yorubas to shut thier mouth after seeing a prove to it and them saying really we did come from benin since thier principle of supiority was through an artefact ...was hve now been seen in benin if we go by thier example of supoirity this means benin is older than ife and the ooni sends thier statue to benin to show its supiority over ife...not d other way round....
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 1:05pm On Jun 15, 2018
gregyboy:



Before this statue was brought out yorubas made a statement that oba of benin heads were buried in ife with no prove to it ....they made most nigerians believe that lie even upto other part of edo they believed until the ooni statue was dugged up in benin ...i was hoping yorubas to shut thier mouth after seeing a prove to it and them saying really we did come from benin since thier principle of supiority was through an artefact ...was hve now been seen in benin if we go by thier example of supoirity this means benin is older than ife and the ooni sends thier statue to benin to show its supiority over ife...not d other way round....

Here you go:

As written by an Edo Historian.

Please make sure your rebuttal is in reference to a scholarly document. Else you need not respond to me at all in order to avoid a waste of both of our time.

Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 1:11pm On Jun 15, 2018
As recorded by a non-Youba archeologist.

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 1:19pm On Jun 15, 2018
Babaramota1980, Nisai, Moneywomen17, Olu317, MayorofLagos & my fellow Yoruba folks.

With reference to Yoruba being spoken in the palace, a phenomenon which the Bini have also denied, please see this below:

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 1:32pm On Jun 15, 2018
nisai:
Yoruba history bro. I need to widen my reading base on my people's history and be like you.

Thanks. Wo se bami. May you never lack intelligence.


Ase baba, ati eyin na.

You may like this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/56sd2l05uxz4pk8/ANCIENT%20IFE_%20A%20REASSESSMENT.pdf?dl=0

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 2:17pm On Jun 15, 2018
Y0ruba:
Babaramota1980, Nisai, Moneywomen17, Olu317, MayorofLagos & my fellow Yoruba folks.

With reference to Yoruba being spoken in the palace, a phenomenon which the Bini have also denied, please see this below:


This man that calls himself Y0ruba, you are really a dumb one.. Do you evenb understand the document you provided in reference to yoruba language spoken in Benin palace?

It simply says the King does not use his own people as slaves in the palace because he cannot give them capital punishment if they erred.. Hence Yoruba slaves were employed to work in the palace because those ones can be easily punished.. That was the people that spoke yoruba language in the palace.

You are not a scholar at all.. You be mumu
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 4:09pm On Jun 15, 2018
Y0ruba:
Babaramota1980, Nisai, Moneywomen17, Olu317, MayorofLagos & my fellow Yoruba folks.

With reference to Yoruba being spoken in the palace, a phenomenon which the Bini have also denied, please see this below:


Y0ruba,
On behalf of all EDOs, we are here to acknowledge Ife as the homeland of Ogiso dynasty and Bini dynasty. We hereby submit ourselves to the service of our foreign rulers and their progenitor Oduduwa Adimula.

Kaabiyesi o!

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 4:27pm On Jun 15, 2018
davidnazee:


This man that calls himself Y0ruba, you are really a dumb one.. Do you evenb understand the document you provided in reference to yoruba language spoken in Benin palace?

It simply says the King does not use his own people as slaves in the palace because he cannot give them capital punishment if they erred.. Hence Yoruba slaves were employed to work in the palace because those ones can be easily punished.. That was the people that spoke yoruba language in the palace.

You are not a scholar at all.. You be mumu


Initially Bini sold EDO females into slavery but not EDO men. At a later time Bini sold EDO men and women into slavery.

Do you know why EDO men were not sold until much later? grin

Bini used humans for sacrifice. EDO men were the preferred stock for blood sacrifice. Also, because Bini came from Yoruba, when your king died some slaves are buried to go with him. If EDO men were sold into slavery from beginning the population will be depleted and there will be none of you left in inventory to slaughter to the gods.

grin grin


Anyway, your brother ekladheran is a priest. Do you agree? grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 5:35pm On Jun 15, 2018
davidnazee:


This man that calls himself Y0ruba, you are really a dumb one.. Do you evenb understand the document you provided in reference to yoruba language spoken in Benin palace?

It simply says the King does not use his own people as slaves in the palace because he cannot give them capital punishment if they erred.. Hence Yoruba slaves were employed to work in the palace because those ones can be easily punished.. That was the people that spoke yoruba language in the palace.

You are not a scholar at all.. You be mumu



You seem upset.

The document clearly states that the king is surrounded by Chiefs who are Yoruba/Bariba in order that emotions may not get in the way when errant subject are to be punished.

The document also went further to state that the presence of Lucumies (Yoruba/Bariba) did not mean Biini people did not serve their king in the palace but rather that the Bini indigenes served as slaves in the palace and these slaves had families.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 6:22pm On Jun 15, 2018
BabaRamota1980:


Initially Bini sold EDO females into slavery but not EDO men. At a later time Bini sold EDO men and women into slavery.

Do you know why EDO men were not sold until much later? grin

Bini used humans for sacrifice. EDO men were the preferred stock for blood sacrifice. Also, because Bini came from Yoruba, when your king died some slaves are buried to go with him. If EDO men were sold into slavery from beginning the population will be depleted and there will be none of you left in inventory to slaughter to the gods.

grin grin


Anyway, your brother ekladheran is a priest. Do you agree? grin


LOL baba why does the trafficking of Edo women to Italy/Europe in recent periods come to mind?

The level don dey tey tey O grin

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 8:17pm On Jun 15, 2018
Y0ruba:



You seem upset.

The document clearly states that the king is surrounded by Chiefs who are Yoruba/Bariba in order that emotions may not get in the way when errant subject are to be punished.

The document also went further to state that the presence of Lucumies (Yoruba/Bariba) did not mean Biini people did not serve their king in the palace but rather that the Bini indigenes served as slaves in the palace and these slaves had families.

Upset ke? I’m annoyed at the size of ur brain; small and shallow.. the only people u fool here are ur own Yoruba brothers.
Do you even understand the purpose of the document you posted? A document that clearly discredited Yoruba claims that Yoruba language was the lingua franca of the Benin palace.
I know you lack understanding that’s why u posted that document to ur detriment.

The document simply explains that the people that spoke Yoruba in Benin palace were the slaves employed to work in the palace. The palace preferred these foreigners to work in the palace instead of natives because the slaves can be easily punished (beheaded) if they error..

If u like keep twisting stories, u only end up fooling ur own brothers.
Reading a lot of books doesn’t make u smart or wise..

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 8:18pm On Jun 15, 2018
davidnazee:


Upset ke? I’m annoyed at the size of ur brain; small and shallow.. the only people u fool here are ur own Yoruba brothers.
Do you even understand the purpose of the document you posted? A document that clearly discredited Yoruba claims that Yoruba language was the lingua franca of the Benin palace.
I know you lack understanding that’s why u posted that document to ur detriment.

The document simply explains that the people that spoke Yoruba in Benin palace were the slaves employed to work in the palace. The palace preferred these foreigners to work in the palace instead of natives because the slaves can be easily punished (beheaded) if they error..

If u like keep twisting stories, u only end up fooling ur own brothers.
Reading a lot of books doesn’t make u smart or wise..

Analysis of a man who said research isn’t about digging into the past.

I wish you well with your skewed mind.

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 9:25pm On Jun 15, 2018
Y0ruba:


Analysis of a man who said research isn’t about digging into the past.

I wish you well with your skewed mind.

Research is good.. digging into the past is also good.. but being dubious about the results is foolish because you will be caught just like how I caught you now twisting facts..
You are not a scholar stop deceiving Babaramota and his likes..

My mind is very open and full of sense, unlike you that have a peanut sized brain..
please bring more documents for my pleasure..
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 9:45pm On Jun 15, 2018
davidnazee:


Research is good.. digging into the past is also good.. but being dubious about the results is foolish because you will be caught just like how I caught you now twisting facts..
You are not a scholar stop deceiving Babaramota and his likes..

My mind is very open and full of sense, unlike you that have a peanut sized brain..
please bring more documents for my pleasure..


You’re slow and deluded.

You are dum.b and not very smart - I’m not sorry to say this.

I won’t respons to your frivolities anymore. Abeg post citations & research papers pursuant to ypur claims.

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 10:00pm On Jun 15, 2018
davidnazee:


Research is good.. digging into the past is also good.. but being dubious about the results is foolish because you will be caught just like how I caught you now twisting facts..
You are not a scholar stop deceiving Babaramota and his likes..

My mind is very open and full of sense, unlike you that have a peanut sized brain..
please bring more documents for my pleasure..


Prostrate and say Kaabiyesi to Y0ruba. He is correcting and bringing you out of the darkness Olfert Dapper sunk you into with his bullshyyte on "Bini walls look like mirror after they are washed".

Anyway, focus.....

Is ekladheran a priest or not? grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 10:07pm On Jun 15, 2018
Y0ruba:


You’re slow and deluded.

You are dum.b and not very smart - I’m not sorry to say this.

I won’t respons to your frivolities anymore. Abeg post citations & research papers pursuant to ypur claims.

I don't need to post anything.. Your documents are enough for me.. It clearly refutes your foolish claims that Yoruba language was the official language of the Benin Palace.. You even went as far as to say Benin Palace chiefs were Yorubas..
You are indeed a fool..
I feel sorry for your Yoruba brothers.. You guys keep deceiving them making them even more dumber and misinformed..
That'show another Yoruba fake scholar said eredo wall is the biggest man made structure in the world.. bigger than walls or chain and pyramids of egypt lol..
You are very shallow and myopic.. Fake Scholar.
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 10:25pm On Jun 15, 2018
BabaRamota1980:


Prostrate and say Kaabiyesi to Y0ruba. He is correcting and bringing you out of the darkness Olfert Dapper sunk you into with his bullshyyte on "Bini walls look like mirror after they are washed".

Anyway, focus.....

Is ekladheran a priest or not? grin

Lol baba, that guy & his co-travellers on this thread are goats. They need to prostrate to every Yoruba here, Yoruba isn’t their peer.

I think you ealier mentioned that their king is foreign to them & I also found that apart from Ogun & co, these people worship Oramfe - Ora is a prefix for those who descended from the deity. You may add Ora to any name & look it up on FB for proof.

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by BabaRamota1980: 10:49pm On Jun 15, 2018
^^^^^^^^^^^

Calling on all descendants of ekladheran and the dimwit Owodo to report here immediately.

Calling on all ekladhreans and all owodos to report here immediately and identidy with the above.

The attention of all the descendant line of ekladheran and his dimwit father is hereby drawn to the above .

Again.....any and all sundries with claims on ekladheran and owodo and their legacy are forthwith requested to drawn gaze on the above article and respond.

grin grin
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Nobody: 11:30pm On Jun 15, 2018
Babaramota1980, you nor go kill mans with laugh o grin

You nor go believe say these Bini people dey worship Sango sha. cheesy

And at a point in their revisionislm they claimed Ogiso was Oduduwa’s son grin. A very confused bunch they are. I’m sure at some point they will make claims that Ooni Owodo was the same as Ogiso Owodo. grin

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Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 12:19am On Jun 16, 2018
Y0ruba:
Babaramota1980, you nor go kill mans with laugh o grin

You nor go believe say these Bini people dey worship Sango sha. cheesy

And at a point in their revisionislm they claimed Ogiso was Oduduwa’s son grin. A very confused bunch they are. I’m sure at some point they will make claims that Ooni Owodo was the same as Ogiso Owodo. grin

Once again the foolish scholar have made another mockery of himself..
This new document that you posted that calls Oduduwa an invading force that conquered Ife, talks about snail shell with earth, Oba Ogiso as first Oba of Benin, is that part of any Yoruba actual history you have heard?
This is basically myths and fables or fairy tales the Europeans believed about Africa and you a big idiot posting it and feeling happy with yourself. The reason I attack any idiotic post you bring is because you called yourself a scholar.. You are doing damage to all reputable scholars..
I said it before you have a peanut sized brain and very shallow.. You are indeed a mumu..
Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 12:21am On Jun 16, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
^^^^^^^^^^^

Calling on all descendants of ekladheran and the dimwit Owodo to report here immediately.

Calling on all ekladhreans and all owodos to report here immediately and identidy with the above.

The attention of all the descendant line of ekladheran and his dimwit father is hereby drawn to the above .

Again.....any and all sundries with claims on ekladheran and owodo and their legacy are forthwith requested to drawn gaze on the above article and respond.

grin grin

Go and bow to your slave Oni..
Your past is slavery, your present is still slavery and your future will also be slavery.. Continue worshiping your slave Oni..

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